Guest guest Posted September 11, 2006 Report Share Posted September 11, 2006 Klara, That's where I went, the farmer's market. Thing is Whole Foods takes food stamps so obviously it's better for me to buy at WF but if the veggies aren't fresh and gross then my health is at risk so which is better? I will find a happy medium point. Grow my own? Well, I have not the land nor the physical ability. Shame................. Thanks for your comments. Don't be upset by the shrink and his poem. It's a place to get feelings out, and here you too can share what you feel. There is nothing wrong with having an emotion from what he wrote, if it isn't a real person doesn't mean you have to feel bad for having that emotion. Be happy you are compassionate and loving instead. Peace, Reg > > I'm in agreement with Simon that going " natural " is the way to be, > and it also makes sense that we do need not to pamper our bodies > so. But my knowledge of bugs is that they are attracted to diseased > plants, and that does not appeal to me at all. otoh, there are > some " healthy " bugs in our gardens, not the ones that destroy the > plants. When produce in my garden gets buggy, I know something is > wrong - I'm not at the stage yet when I know exactly what went > wrong, but I won't eat buggy food. > > The salt or vinegar soak is something that religious Jews also do, > tho I still don't understand it. Even after soaking, one still has > to check for bugs, they don't " automatically " disappear. Seems > eating bugs is quite a huge no-no - unfortunately some religious > Jews have gone way over the other direction to keep away from bugs > and use produce that is sprayed beyond belief. > > Reggie, glad you found a healthier source for your organic > vegetables. > > Also, do you have a farmer's market in your area? also supports the > small farmer and also nice to have a direct relationship with the > grower. Of course, the best is when you can grow your own - I'm > always working on that. > > Klara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. ew RE: Re: Bugs I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! Thea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 I use cinnamon and cinnamon sticks in the bird room- trick is to use lots and make a barrier line. They will not usually cross it. Somehow, ants are smart enough to avoid even my carnivorous plants-I have seen ants walk carefully on the lip of a sundew (drosera) without getting snagged in the attractive looking fake dew.. n Free of ants at the moment Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > Thea > > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of n Rollings, PhD > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:21 PM > To: sproutpeople > Subject: Re: Re: Chia article > > Melody > I understand how you may feel about bugs, but ants are so cool! They are great to watch. > Best of luck with your basil. > n > > Dr. Rollings > > NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 > www.DrnRollings.com > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 23, 2011, at 8:55 PM, " Melody " <eliz7212@... <mailto:eliz7212%40verizon.net> > wrote: > > > EW > > > > You should be proud of me. Today I went into my front (don't know what you call the place where bushes and weeds are) but it's right in front of my house surrounded by rails. They have mini trees and little plants here and there. But there were lots of weeds. My landlord was trying to pull out some that were all the way in the back. I hopped in, I gathered them up, I said 'go and get the rake " , he came back with the rake and I did the whole front of my house. He then went in the back of his yard and got some basil plants and planted them for me in the garden box on the other side of the front of my house. > > > > I then watered them and all summer long I will have fresh basil. > > > > But the funny part was when I got down to pull up the weeds and all I saw were bugs and ants and ANTS, and I said " oh my god " . You know I hate working in dirt and I hate bugs. > > > > But I'm proud of myself. I got all dirty, and when I finished I jumped in the shower. I was never so glad to be clean. > > > > I think I was made for sprouting and not for gardening. > > > > but hey, I DID IT!!! > > > > LOL, melody. > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > Found on the vegnews website: > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.vegnews.com/web/articles/page.do?pageId=3391 <http://www.vegnews.com/web/articles/page.do?pageId=3391 & catId=7> & catId=7 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > n > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > Dr. Rollings > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > www.DrnRollings.com > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>> > > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > > > > >>>>>>> > >>> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 They are experts at reading labels! What they have done in my house is found another way in-clever! n Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad On Jun 23, 2011, at 10:45 PM, " Ernest Willingham " wrote: > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > ew > > RE: Re: Bugs > > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > Thea > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Or maybe they read it and decided to be renegades and cross the line anyway - those pesky ants!!! From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of Ernest Willingham Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:46 PM To: sproutpeople Subject: Re: Bugs I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. ew RE: Re: Bugs I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! Thea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 Thea Barbato wrote: >Or maybe they read it and decided to be renegades and cross the line anyway >- those pesky ants!!! > > > >From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On >Behalf Of Ernest Willingham >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 10:46 PM >To: sproutpeople >Subject: Re: Bugs > > > > > >I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I >read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had >ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there >were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. >ew > > RE: Re: Bugs > >I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other >such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird >domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, >nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk >(crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like >you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > >Thea > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Ants hate water. When there is an ant hill, we just drench it in water, the next day, it moves out, probably to the neighbor's lawn. I was just bitten, and that thing had strong toxins, i washed the bite as soon as i felt it with the water from the hose as i was watering tthe plants then. Didn't feel any itch until i got inside the house and saw the top of my foot swelling and red this is not the part that was bitten. So i immediately put DMSO, colloidal silver and Swedish Bitters. Pain went away but the redness stayed for two weeks. I had to apply violet ray electrodes and red laser treatment. It is only now that it is beginning to heal and that has been a good 2 weeks. So be careful. It is very tiny ant by the way. > > > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > > ew > > > > RE: Re: Bugs > > > > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > > > Thea > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Ants don't like citronella oil. > > > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > > ew > > > > RE: Re: Bugs > > > > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > > > Thea > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Once, in Florida, my arm was covered with fire ants that I had not seen while moving some wood. I started shouting and swiping them off; my neighbor ran into her house and came out with a rag doused in ammonia. She rubbed this vigorously on my arm and it quickly neutralized the pain of dozens of ant bites. My arm seemed quite healed within a day. ________________________________ To: sproutpeople Sent: Fri, June 24, 2011 6:05:52 PM Subject: Re: Bugs Ants hate water. When there is an ant hill, we just drench it in water, the next day, it moves out, probably to the neighbor's lawn. I was just bitten, and that thing had strong toxins, i washed the bite as soon as i felt it with the water from the hose as i was watering tthe plants then. Didn't feel any itch until i got inside the house and saw the top of my foot swelling and red this is not the part that was bitten. So i immediately put DMSO, colloidal silver and Swedish Bitters. Pain went away but the redness stayed for two weeks. I had to apply violet ray electrodes and red laser treatment. It is only now that it is beginning to heal and that has been a good 2 weeks. So be careful. It is very tiny ant by the way. > > > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I >read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had >ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there >were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > > ew > > > > RE: Re: Bugs > > > > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other >such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird >domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, >nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk >(crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, >n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > > > Thea > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Orange guard pump spray. Safe for people and pets. Ace hardware had it on sale last week. No ants for over 2 years since using it. Smells divine. Repels fleas, roaches, aphids, pantry and clothing moths. Safe to use around food. Repels flies around the horses. They also have developed one for plants. mellybag2000 wrote: >Ants don't like citronella oil. > > > > >> >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. >> > ew >> > >> > RE: Re: Bugs >> > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! >> > >> > Thea >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! Been using it for OVER 2 years now. Best thing I ever used in my home. Smells good. Works good. That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! Mel > >> > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > >> > ew > >> > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > >> > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > >> > > >> > Thea > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Ah, but is it non-toxic and therefore safe to use around my birds or guinea pigs? That is the question (to be or not to be <toxic>, LOL)!! Thea From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of melodylubart1 Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:42 AM To: sproutpeople Subject: Re: Bugs ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! Been using it for OVER 2 years now. Best thing I ever used in my home. Smells good. Works good. That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! Mel > >> > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > >> > ew > >> > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > >> > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > >> > > >> > Thea > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 We use orange tko Really good stuff! n Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad > ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! > > Been using it for OVER 2 years now. > > Best thing I ever used in my home. > > Smells good. Works good. > > That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! > > Mel > > > >> > > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > > >> > ew > > >> > > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > > >> > > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > >> > > > >> > Thea > > >> > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. Here's a link: http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. n Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad > Ah, but is it non-toxic and therefore safe to use around my birds or guinea > pigs? That is the question (to be or not to be <toxic>, LOL)!! > > Thea > > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On > Behalf Of melodylubart1 > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:42 AM > To: sproutpeople > Subject: Re: Bugs > > ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! > > Been using it for OVER 2 years now. > > Best thing I ever used in my home. > > Smells good. Works good. > > That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! > > Mel > > > >> > > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household > chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of > cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. > the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read > the article. > > >> > ew > > >> > > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > > >> > > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and > other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the > bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a > natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just > walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite > like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > >> > > > >> > Thea > > >> > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Should read: have not used it on cages or in the bird room yet I did use it to clean the fairy (finch & canary) bird bath and it did a nice job without leaving residue I use enzyme cleaners to spot clean the bird room floor, the occasional cat puke and little dog mess. I think it is earthworm brand. I am going to try the orange tko on the wall behind the lory cages-I swear, the army has overlooked a great secret weapon-projectile lory poop! It sticks like glue and is quite a challenge to remove. And what aim those Lories have lol But as for ants, we have had success with cinnamon. Nontoxic, smells great, an birds don't seem to mind it. Had a few ants around my sprout garden in early spring, so, if I remember right, I think I put some cinnamon sticks on the counter where I saw them. There had been an ant army living in my maxillaria tenufolia orchid (known as the coconut orchid). I didn't do anything about them and they moved out on their own-to the yard I think. No ants now. Good luck! n Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2011, at 11:11 AM, " n Rollings, PhD " wrote: > Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. > Here's a link: > > http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html > > We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. > n > > Dr. Rollings > > NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 > www.DrnRollings.com > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > Ah, but is it non-toxic and therefore safe to use around my birds or guinea > > pigs? That is the question (to be or not to be <toxic>, LOL)!! > > > > Thea > > > > From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On > > Behalf Of melodylubart1 > > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:42 AM > > To: sproutpeople > > Subject: Re: Bugs > > > > ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! > > > > Been using it for OVER 2 years now. > > > > Best thing I ever used in my home. > > > > Smells good. Works good. > > > > That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! > > > > Mel > > > > > >> > > > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household > > chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of > > cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. > > the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read > > the article. > > > >> > ew > > > >> > > > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > > > >> > > > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and > > other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the > > bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a > > natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just > > walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite > > like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > > >> > > > > >> > Thea > > > >> > > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Thanks, n - now to find some! T. From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of n Rollings, PhD Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:12 AM To: sproutpeople Subject: Re: Re: Bugs Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. Here's a link: http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. n Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2011, at 11:05 AM, " Thea Barbato " <tbarbato@... <mailto:tbarbato%40carolina.rr.com> > wrote: > Ah, but is it non-toxic and therefore safe to use around my birds or guinea > pigs? That is the question (to be or not to be <toxic>, LOL)!! > > Thea > > From: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of melodylubart1 > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:42 AM > To: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: Bugs > > ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! > > Been using it for OVER 2 years now. > > Best thing I ever used in my home. > > Smells good. Works good. > > That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! > > Mel > > > >> > > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household > chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of > cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. > the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read > the article. > > >> > ew > > >> > > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > > >> > > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and > other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the > bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a > natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just > walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite > like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > >> > > > >> > Thea > > >> > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Wonderful! Sounds like a good product all the way around! Thea From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of Ba Rei Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 2:33 AM To: sproutpeople Subject: Re: Re: Bugs Orange guard pump spray. Safe for people and pets. Ace hardware had it on sale last week. No ants for over 2 years since using it. Smells divine. Repels fleas, roaches, aphids, pantry and clothing moths. Safe to use around food. Repels flies around the horses. They also have developed one for plants. mellybag2000 <@... <mailto:%40yahoo.com> > wrote: >Ants don't like citronella oil. > > > > >> >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. >> > ew >> > >> > RE: Re: Bugs >> > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! >> > >> > Thea >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Ha ha, love the 'fairy' connection (although I'd have spelled in 'fary', but no matter - fairy has a nicer connotation to it!). Forgot you had Lories too - oh yeah, they're quite the bombers, LOL!! I may have some cinnamon sticks and will look for them as well. But the cinnamon I put around the room edge didn't deter them in the least - think they're just blazing trails around or through any gaps they may be finding. T. From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of n Rollings, PhD Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:41 AM To: sproutpeople Subject: Re: Re: Bugs Should read: have not used it on cages or in the bird room yet I did use it to clean the fairy (finch & canary) bird bath and it did a nice job without leaving residue I use enzyme cleaners to spot clean the bird room floor, the occasional cat puke and little dog mess. I think it is earthworm brand. I am going to try the orange tko on the wall behind the lory cages-I swear, the army has overlooked a great secret weapon-projectile lory poop! It sticks like glue and is quite a challenge to remove. And what aim those Lories have lol But as for ants, we have had success with cinnamon. Nontoxic, smells great, an birds don't seem to mind it. Had a few ants around my sprout garden in early spring, so, if I remember right, I think I put some cinnamon sticks on the counter where I saw them. There had been an ant army living in my maxillaria tenufolia orchid (known as the coconut orchid). I didn't do anything about them and they moved out on their own-to the yard I think. No ants now. Good luck! n Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad On Jun 25, 2011, at 11:11 AM, " n Rollings, PhD " <drmarionrollings@... <mailto:drmarionrollings%40yahoo.com> > wrote: > Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. > Here's a link: > > http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html > > We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. > n > > Dr. Rollings > > NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 > www.DrnRollings.com > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 25, 2011, at 11:05 AM, " Thea Barbato " <tbarbato@... <mailto:tbarbato%40carolina.rr.com> > wrote: > > > Ah, but is it non-toxic and therefore safe to use around my birds or guinea > > pigs? That is the question (to be or not to be <toxic>, LOL)!! > > > > Thea > > > > From: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > > Behalf Of melodylubart1 > > Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:42 AM > > To: sproutpeople <mailto:sproutpeople%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Bugs > > > > ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! > > > > Been using it for OVER 2 years now. > > > > Best thing I ever used in my home. > > > > Smells good. Works good. > > > > That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! > > > > Mel > > > > > >> > > > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household > > chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of > > cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. > > the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read > > the article. > > > >> > ew > > > >> > > > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > > > >> > > > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and > > other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the > > bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a > > natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just > > walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite > > like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > > > >> > > > > >> > Thea > > > >> > > > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I don't know about the toxicity of Orange Guard, but Ba Rei says it's safe for people and pets and safe to use around food (see below). That alone makes it a better choice than boric acid-based products. See http://mobile.scripps.org/articles/790-boric-acid-poisoning for helpful information about boric acid and its toxicity. Use it if you must, but do please be aware of its toxic properties - both ingested and inhaled. Peggy  To: sproutpeople Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: RE: Re: Bugs  Ah, but is it non-toxic and therefore safe to use around my birds or guinea pigs? That is the question (to be or not to be <toxic>, LOL)!! Thea From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On Behalf Of melodylubart1 Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:42 AM To: sproutpeople Subject: Re: Bugs ORANGE GUARD!!!!!! ORANGE GUARD!!!! Been using it for OVER 2 years now. Best thing I ever used in my home. Smells good. Works good. That's all that needs saying. The stuff WORKS!! Mel > >> > >> > I'll tell you a funny story. When I first took over the household chores, I read an article that said the ants would not cross a line of cinnamon. I had ants coming in the kitchen window. I spread the cinnamon. the next day there were ants everywhere. Apparently the ants had not read the article. > >> > ew > >> > > >> > RE: Re: Bugs > >> > > >> > I don't have an aversion to insects per se (find praying mantises and other such things quite fascinating), but ants, as of late, have entered the bird domain, climbing on cages, getting into food and I've yet to find a natural, nontoxic-to-birds deterrent. Tried cinnamon but they seemed to just walk (crawl?) around it. Need to put a stop to it!! Otherwise, I'm quite like you, n and find ants fascinating to watch! > >> > > >> > Thea > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 I work in a laboratory and the constituent of orange guard is d-limolene. This is used as a solvent and is less toxic but still harmful in high doses. (Causes photosensytivity in people) It's basically orange or lemon essential oil which is listed as toxic for pets such as horses, cats and dogs even on the ASPCA website. http://www.aspca.org/Pet-care/poison-control/Plants/orange.aspx What I have learned is that cats do not have the proper liver enzymes to breakdown essential oils and can cause liver failure. So with my three kitties, I am just extra careful cuz I want them to stay with me a long time! > > Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. > Here's a link: > > http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html > > We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. > n > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 , Thank you for the info. I am betting OrangeTKO has a similar composition. Even things I am told are safe i use tremendous caution with around my companion animals. I appreciate your input. My knowledge of chemistry is virtually nonexistent ! n Wishing everyone a peace-filled Sunday Dr. Rollings NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686 www.DrnRollings.com Sent from my iPad > I work in a laboratory and the constituent of orange guard is d-limolene. This is used as a solvent and is less toxic but still harmful in high doses. (Causes photosensytivity in people) It's basically orange or lemon essential oil which is listed as toxic for pets such as horses, cats and dogs even on the ASPCA website. > > http://www.aspca.org/Pet-care/poison-control/Plants/orange.aspx > > What I have learned is that cats do not have the proper liver enzymes to breakdown essential oils and can cause liver failure. So with my three kitties, I am just extra careful cuz I want them to stay with me a long time! > > > > > > > > Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. > > Here's a link: > > > > http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html > > > > We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. > > n > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 No problem. I just read that corn meal will kill ants! > > > > > > Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. > > > Here's a link: > > > > > > http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html > > > > > > We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. > > > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2011 Report Share Posted June 29, 2011 Oh, I have a tip that my friend gave me last night. I was telling her that another friend of mine has ants on her front porch but she never sprays because she has animals. My friend then said " Tell her Apple cider vinegar " . " Ants HATE Apple cider vinegar " So I shall pass along that info tonight. Mel > > > > > > > > Well orange tko is safe around animals-apparently you can even spray it in dilution on horses. > > > > Here's a link: > > > > > > > > http://www.orangetko.net/oneproduct.html > > > > > > > > We use it for cleaning around the house- used it on cages or in the bird room yet. > > > > n > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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