Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

[Guest guest]

Sorry, if this has been asked and answered before, but is there then a good

quality organic fertilizer that is readily available maybe at Lowe's, or

similar) that won't break the bank in cost?

Thea

---- wrote:

> Just so you are aware, Miracle Grow organic choice is NOT organic. The

poultry liter and manure come from battery chicken farms and that is as far from

organic as you can get, since hens are fed antibiotics, growth hormones,

steroids, medications, etc. Soil is not regulated for organic labeling, so they

can get away with calling it whatever they wish-they are allowed to call it

organic simply because it contains some forest matter that may have come " from

the wild " . I have some more detailed info somewhere-as I researched this topic

heavily when I was trying to work out my own soil needs when I started gardening

years ago. Just a heads up-I really despise when we are so easily duped by

companies-pay more for a product that is EXACTLY the same as its off labeled

counterpart (am hunting for my soapbox-can't remember where I stored the darn

thing, but this issue is worth dragging it out for)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I shop at Lowes and they don't sell compost and there is no planter mix there I

wold buy except one that is formulated for the Square Foot Garden program, but I

think its a little on the pricey sade because I can make my own. But if you

can't make your own - go for it.

ew

Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

Sorry, if this has been asked and answered before, but is there then a good

quality organic fertilizer that is readily available maybe at Lowe's, or

similar) that won't break the bank in cost?

Thea

---- < berrywell%2540yahoo.com > wrote:

> Just so you are aware, Miracle Grow organic choice is NOT organic. The

poultry liter and manure come from battery chicken farms and that is as far from

organic as you can get, since hens are fed antibiotics, growth hormones,

steroids, medications, etc. Soil is not regulated for organic labeling, so they

can get away with calling it whatever they wish-they are allowed to call it

organic simply because it contains some forest matter that may have come " from

the wild " . I have some more detailed info somewhere-as I researched this topic

heavily when I was trying to work out my own soil needs when I started gardening

years ago. Just a heads up-I really despise when we are so easily duped by

companies-pay more for a product that is EXACTLY the same as its off labeled

counterpart (am hunting for my soapbox-can't remember where I stored the darn

thing, but this issue is worth dragging it out for)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pray tell, sage Ernest, how does one make one's own? Pretty please with

blackberries on top?

Thank you. Kind regards,

Barbara

________________________________

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Mon, June 20, 2011 10:39:18 AM

Subject: Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

I shop at Lowes and they don't sell compost and there is no planter mix there I

wold buy except one that is formulated for the Square Foot Garden program, but I

think its a little on the pricey sade because I can make my own. But if you

can't make your own - go for it.

ew

Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

Sorry, if this has been asked and answered before, but is there then a good

quality organic fertilizer that is readily available maybe at Lowe's, or

similar) that won't break the bank in cost?

Thea

---- < berrywell%2540yahoo.com > wrote:

> Just so you are aware, Miracle Grow organic choice is NOT organic. The poultry

>liter and manure come from battery chicken farms and that is as far from

organic

>as you can get, since hens are fed antibiotics, growth hormones, steroids,

>medications, etc. Soil is not regulated for organic labeling, so they can get

>away with calling it whatever they wish-they are allowed to call it organic

>simply because it contains some forest matter that may have come " from the

>wild " . I have some more detailed info somewhere-as I researched this topic

>heavily when I was trying to work out my own soil needs when I started

gardening

>years ago. Just a heads up-I really despise when we are so easily duped by

>companies-pay more for a product that is EXACTLY the same as its off labeled

>counterpart (am hunting for my soapbox-can't remember where I stored the darn

>thing, but this issue is worth dragging it out for)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you get a chance, see if your local library has a copy of 'Square Foot

Gardening' by Mel Barthlomew. Its very interesting learning how he grows so much

in a small space.

Mel's mix, as he calls it is: One third compost, 1/3 vermiculite and 1/3 peat-

I use coir, because peat is acidic and not a renewable resource. Coir come from

the harvest of coconuts, and that's not likely to run out. Coir is neutral and

won't affect your pH. Each time you harvest a square, you need only to ad

compost to get it read for the next planting. Of course, I do make my own

compost.

ew

Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

Pray tell, sage Ernest, how does one make one's own? Pretty please with

blackberries on top?

Thank you. Kind regards,

Barbara

________________________________

[Guest guest]

Mel Bartholomew /w/index.php?title=Mel_Bartholomew & action=edit & redlink=1

I left out an o. Sorry Mel.

ew

Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

If you get a chance, see if your local library has a copy of 'Square Foot

Gardening' by Mel Barthlomew. Its very interesting learning how he grows so much

in a small space.

Mel's mix, as he calls it is: One third compost, 1/3 vermiculite and 1/3 peat-

I use coir, because peat is acidic and not a renewable resource. Coir come from

the harvest of coconuts, and that's not likely to run out. Coir is neutral and

won't affect your pH. Each time you harvest a square, you need only to ad

compost to get it read for the next planting. Of course, I do make my own

compost.

ew

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[Guest guest]

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. And the next question would obviously be what's

needed to make one's own planter mix? However, this is entirely predicated

upon my being able to spare the time to make it, so the jury's out on that, LOL!

Thea

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Ernest Willingham

Sent: Monday, June 20, 2011 1:39 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

I shop at Lowes and they don't sell compost and there is no planter mix there I

wold buy except one that is formulated for the Square Foot Garden program, but I

think its a little on the pricey sade because I can make my own. But if you

can't make your own - go for it.

ew

Re: Re: Organic Fertilizers - or EW

Sorry, if this has been asked and answered before, but is there then a good

quality organic fertilizer that is readily available maybe at Lowe's, or

similar) that won't break the bank in cost?

Thea

---- < berrywell%2540yahoo.com > wrote:

> Just so you are aware, Miracle Grow organic choice is NOT organic. The poultry

liter and manure come from battery chicken farms and that is as far from organic

as you can get, since hens are fed antibiotics, growth hormones, steroids,

medications, etc. Soil is not regulated for organic labeling, so they can get

away with calling it whatever they wish-they are allowed to call it organic

simply because it contains some forest matter that may have come " from the

wild " . I have some more detailed info somewhere-as I researched this topic

heavily when I was trying to work out my own soil needs when I started gardening

years ago. Just a heads up-I really despise when we are so easily duped by

companies-pay more for a product that is EXACTLY the same as its off labeled

counterpart (am hunting for my soapbox-can't remember where I stored the darn

thing, but this issue is worth dragging it out for)

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What I use for fertilizer is vermicompost. (worm poop) I made my bin out of

a rubbermaid tote. I am fixing to make two 5 gallon bucket style worm

bins. That way I can move them around when I need to. The tote when

loaded down with vermicompost as it is now is actually very heavy for my

husband to move.

http://www.nyworms.com/vermicomposting.htm

TN

> Sorry, if this has been asked and answered before, but is there then a good

> quality organic fertilizer that is readily available maybe at Lowe's, or

> similar) that won't break the bank in cost?

>

> Thea

>