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My son did the spitting thing for about 3-4 months. THen it changed to shirt

chewing. For my son, things last 3-4 months and are gradually replaced by

something else. My son spit in his hand, made crossing the street really gross.

No help on the food thing though. My son is obsessed with being hungry and will

eat almost anything in front of him.

spitting

I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

getting them to try other foods??

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My son did the spitting thing for about 3-4 months. THen it changed to shirt

chewing. For my son, things last 3-4 months and are gradually replaced by

something else. My son spit in his hand, made crossing the street really gross.

No help on the food thing though. My son is obsessed with being hungry and will

eat almost anything in front of him.

spitting

I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

getting them to try other foods??

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Castle, Fowler, Kathy Hammes, Joye, Kathy Mac, Gail

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> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd.  My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

>

Interesting. My son went through a spitting phase much like you

describe (including spitting on his own shirt sleeves), but, we were

pretty sure it was a tic. (He never mentioned germs). His evolved

into a pretty complex thing where he jerked his head to one side, spit

on his own shoulder, then jerked it to the other and did the same thing

on the other side.

He is, also, almost phobic about eating vegetables. I keep saying

we're going to address that next; but, we have so many issues to deal

with that veggies keep taking a back seat!

Jeanne

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NBCT - Exceptional Needs (2000)

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> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd.  My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

>

Interesting. My son went through a spitting phase much like you

describe (including spitting on his own shirt sleeves), but, we were

pretty sure it was a tic. (He never mentioned germs). His evolved

into a pretty complex thing where he jerked his head to one side, spit

on his own shoulder, then jerked it to the other and did the same thing

on the other side.

He is, also, almost phobic about eating vegetables. I keep saying

we're going to address that next; but, we have so many issues to deal

with that veggies keep taking a back seat!

Jeanne

jwestpha@...

NBCT - Exceptional Needs (2000)

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> > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> > getting them to try other foods??

> >

----------------

Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This evolved

into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million reassurance

questions:

" Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER ME,

MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm such a

loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could check

for aliens, I guess)

This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and would

kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder how

we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down, two

more to go! :)

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> > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> > getting them to try other foods??

> >

----------------

Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This evolved

into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million reassurance

questions:

" Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER ME,

MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm such a

loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could check

for aliens, I guess)

This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and would

kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder how

we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down, two

more to go! :)

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> > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> > getting them to try other foods??

> >

----------------

Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This evolved

into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million reassurance

questions:

" Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER ME,

MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm such a

loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could check

for aliens, I guess)

This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and would

kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder how

we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down, two

more to go! :)

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My daughter has had both spitting tics, and an OCD compulsion to spit, at

different times since her OCD onset. The tic was either a Bronx cheer or

sometimes a spitting motion, pursing the lips as though to spit (she could

usually stop at that point, not always though) and she said she did it

because her lips felt funny and spitting made them feel better.

The compulsion to spit happened when she was triggered by hearing about or

seeing some disgusting thing. My daughter explained she had the idea then

that the disgusting substance was in her mouth and she felt she had to spit

to get it out--though of course even this little girl (at the time)

understood that seeing or hearing about something yucky could not cause the

thing to actually get in her mouth.

We've also had myriad food issues over time, ranging from " right " foods,

foods that don't seem " right " in some aspect, and foods that suddenly don't

taste " right. " Also compulsive eating of and begging for chocolate which my

daughter says reduces OCD symptoms. Many of these she has been able to

reduce and some eliminate via ERP techniques.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

>

Interesting. My son went through a spitting phase much like you

describe (including spitting on his own shirt sleeves), but, we were

pretty sure it was a tic. (He never mentioned germs). His evolved

into a pretty complex thing where he jerked his head to one side, spit

on his own shoulder, then jerked it to the other and did the same thing

on the other side.

He is, also, almost phobic about eating vegetables. I keep saying

we're going to address that next; but, we have so many issues to deal

with that veggies keep taking a back seat!

Jeanne

jwestpha@...

NBCT - Exceptional Needs (2000)

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My daughter has had both spitting tics, and an OCD compulsion to spit, at

different times since her OCD onset. The tic was either a Bronx cheer or

sometimes a spitting motion, pursing the lips as though to spit (she could

usually stop at that point, not always though) and she said she did it

because her lips felt funny and spitting made them feel better.

The compulsion to spit happened when she was triggered by hearing about or

seeing some disgusting thing. My daughter explained she had the idea then

that the disgusting substance was in her mouth and she felt she had to spit

to get it out--though of course even this little girl (at the time)

understood that seeing or hearing about something yucky could not cause the

thing to actually get in her mouth.

We've also had myriad food issues over time, ranging from " right " foods,

foods that don't seem " right " in some aspect, and foods that suddenly don't

taste " right. " Also compulsive eating of and begging for chocolate which my

daughter says reduces OCD symptoms. Many of these she has been able to

reduce and some eliminate via ERP techniques.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

>

Interesting. My son went through a spitting phase much like you

describe (including spitting on his own shirt sleeves), but, we were

pretty sure it was a tic. (He never mentioned germs). His evolved

into a pretty complex thing where he jerked his head to one side, spit

on his own shoulder, then jerked it to the other and did the same thing

on the other side.

He is, also, almost phobic about eating vegetables. I keep saying

we're going to address that next; but, we have so many issues to deal

with that veggies keep taking a back seat!

Jeanne

jwestpha@...

NBCT - Exceptional Needs (2000)

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My daughter has had both spitting tics, and an OCD compulsion to spit, at

different times since her OCD onset. The tic was either a Bronx cheer or

sometimes a spitting motion, pursing the lips as though to spit (she could

usually stop at that point, not always though) and she said she did it

because her lips felt funny and spitting made them feel better.

The compulsion to spit happened when she was triggered by hearing about or

seeing some disgusting thing. My daughter explained she had the idea then

that the disgusting substance was in her mouth and she felt she had to spit

to get it out--though of course even this little girl (at the time)

understood that seeing or hearing about something yucky could not cause the

thing to actually get in her mouth.

We've also had myriad food issues over time, ranging from " right " foods,

foods that don't seem " right " in some aspect, and foods that suddenly don't

taste " right. " Also compulsive eating of and begging for chocolate which my

daughter says reduces OCD symptoms. Many of these she has been able to

reduce and some eliminate via ERP techniques.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

>

Interesting. My son went through a spitting phase much like you

describe (including spitting on his own shirt sleeves), but, we were

pretty sure it was a tic. (He never mentioned germs). His evolved

into a pretty complex thing where he jerked his head to one side, spit

on his own shoulder, then jerked it to the other and did the same thing

on the other side.

He is, also, almost phobic about eating vegetables. I keep saying

we're going to address that next; but, we have so many issues to deal

with that veggies keep taking a back seat!

Jeanne

jwestpha@...

NBCT - Exceptional Needs (2000)

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Hi there and welcome. Both of the things you mention (spitting because of

germs and avoiding possibly " contaminated " or " wrong " foods) are pretty

common compulsions in children with OCD. Obsessions (the bad thoughts that

trigger the compulsions) can last a short while, or years, and may change

around sometimes with surprising quickness. Or sometimes the obsession

stays the same but the compulsions in reaction to it change.

Both can be treated with a certain type of behavior therapy called Cognitive

Behavior Therapy with Exposure and Response Prevention. This is the only

type of therapy that does reduce and eliminate OCD symptoms and is the first

suggested treatment for OCD in children. Other types of therapy are not

effective in reducing OCD symptoms. It can be difficult to find an

experienced behavior therapist to treat a young child for OCD, depending

upon where you live.

Many kids also take an SSRI medication such as Prozac or Zoloft (there are

several others), which is the first-line suggested med treatment for OCD in

kids. Some experts believe that the two together can provide relief

quickest.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

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Hi there and welcome. Both of the things you mention (spitting because of

germs and avoiding possibly " contaminated " or " wrong " foods) are pretty

common compulsions in children with OCD. Obsessions (the bad thoughts that

trigger the compulsions) can last a short while, or years, and may change

around sometimes with surprising quickness. Or sometimes the obsession

stays the same but the compulsions in reaction to it change.

Both can be treated with a certain type of behavior therapy called Cognitive

Behavior Therapy with Exposure and Response Prevention. This is the only

type of therapy that does reduce and eliminate OCD symptoms and is the first

suggested treatment for OCD in children. Other types of therapy are not

effective in reducing OCD symptoms. It can be difficult to find an

experienced behavior therapist to treat a young child for OCD, depending

upon where you live.

Many kids also take an SSRI medication such as Prozac or Zoloft (there are

several others), which is the first-line suggested med treatment for OCD in

kids. Some experts believe that the two together can provide relief

quickest.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

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Hi there and welcome. Both of the things you mention (spitting because of

germs and avoiding possibly " contaminated " or " wrong " foods) are pretty

common compulsions in children with OCD. Obsessions (the bad thoughts that

trigger the compulsions) can last a short while, or years, and may change

around sometimes with surprising quickness. Or sometimes the obsession

stays the same but the compulsions in reaction to it change.

Both can be treated with a certain type of behavior therapy called Cognitive

Behavior Therapy with Exposure and Response Prevention. This is the only

type of therapy that does reduce and eliminate OCD symptoms and is the first

suggested treatment for OCD in children. Other types of therapy are not

effective in reducing OCD symptoms. It can be difficult to find an

experienced behavior therapist to treat a young child for OCD, depending

upon where you live.

Many kids also take an SSRI medication such as Prozac or Zoloft (there are

several others), which is the first-line suggested med treatment for OCD in

kids. Some experts believe that the two together can provide relief

quickest.

Take care,

Kathy R. in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

> I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there are

> other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My son is 9

> and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of germs any

> ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit on his

> own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such as

> getting them to try other foods??

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Hi,

It has been a while, but spitting has been a discussion line on this

group before.

My daughter dropped to an alarming low weight at age 9 when she

wouldn't eat due to food contamination fears ( she too, was SURE I

poisoned it and was worried I'd be mad her for fearing this) Anyhow,

she is doing super well now, but spitting remains. But, when I look

back it was one of our earliest signs that something was way

off...back to age 6 she spit!

She's now 13 and I still see it.....she tries to hide it, but she

does it! The spitting isn't involved in big rituals anymore, but I

see it....it is even less pleasant when she starts it, sees me

looking, and sucks it back into her mouth! Ugh.

But, thank God, she eats healthily now--in fact her latest fear is

that she eats too little and will be an anorexic someday). We too

have been through some hard, crazy times, so I guess a little

spitting isn't so bad :)

Larissa in MAss

> >

> > > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there

are

> > > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My

son is 9

> > > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of

germs any

> > > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit

on his

> > > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such

as

> > > getting them to try other foods??

> > >

>

> ----------------

> Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This

evolved

> into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

> else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million

reassurance

> questions:

> " Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER

ME,

> MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm

such a

> loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

> horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

> He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could

check

> for aliens, I guess)

>

> This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

> If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and

would

> kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

>

> Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder

how

> we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

> Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

> Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

> P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down,

two

> more to go! :)

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Hi,

It has been a while, but spitting has been a discussion line on this

group before.

My daughter dropped to an alarming low weight at age 9 when she

wouldn't eat due to food contamination fears ( she too, was SURE I

poisoned it and was worried I'd be mad her for fearing this) Anyhow,

she is doing super well now, but spitting remains. But, when I look

back it was one of our earliest signs that something was way

off...back to age 6 she spit!

She's now 13 and I still see it.....she tries to hide it, but she

does it! The spitting isn't involved in big rituals anymore, but I

see it....it is even less pleasant when she starts it, sees me

looking, and sucks it back into her mouth! Ugh.

But, thank God, she eats healthily now--in fact her latest fear is

that she eats too little and will be an anorexic someday). We too

have been through some hard, crazy times, so I guess a little

spitting isn't so bad :)

Larissa in MAss

> >

> > > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there

are

> > > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My

son is 9

> > > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of

germs any

> > > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit

on his

> > > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such

as

> > > getting them to try other foods??

> > >

>

> ----------------

> Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This

evolved

> into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

> else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million

reassurance

> questions:

> " Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER

ME,

> MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm

such a

> loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

> horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

> He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could

check

> for aliens, I guess)

>

> This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

> If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and

would

> kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

>

> Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder

how

> we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

> Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

> Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

> P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down,

two

> more to go! :)

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Hi,

It has been a while, but spitting has been a discussion line on this

group before.

My daughter dropped to an alarming low weight at age 9 when she

wouldn't eat due to food contamination fears ( she too, was SURE I

poisoned it and was worried I'd be mad her for fearing this) Anyhow,

she is doing super well now, but spitting remains. But, when I look

back it was one of our earliest signs that something was way

off...back to age 6 she spit!

She's now 13 and I still see it.....she tries to hide it, but she

does it! The spitting isn't involved in big rituals anymore, but I

see it....it is even less pleasant when she starts it, sees me

looking, and sucks it back into her mouth! Ugh.

But, thank God, she eats healthily now--in fact her latest fear is

that she eats too little and will be an anorexic someday). We too

have been through some hard, crazy times, so I guess a little

spitting isn't so bad :)

Larissa in MAss

> >

> > > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there

are

> > > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My

son is 9

> > > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of

germs any

> > > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit

on his

> > > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such

as

> > > getting them to try other foods??

> > >

>

> ----------------

> Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This

evolved

> into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

> else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million

reassurance

> questions:

> " Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER

ME,

> MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm

such a

> loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

> horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

> He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could

check

> for aliens, I guess)

>

> This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

> If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and

would

> kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

>

> Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder

how

> we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

> Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

> Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

> P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down,

two

> more to go! :)

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Hi,

My ten year old son spits, too. It used to be a big problem. He had this

symptom well before we realized he had OCD, so another " aha " . He seems

to spit now mostly in public (great!) now and outside like at the park or a

picnic, or amusement park so I am guessing it is contamination compulsion.

This behavior has gone way down. He was diagnosed in July and never

talked about his OCD, so it has been dtective work to figure it all out. He is

starting to tell us more and more.

Sincerely,

Ender

> > >

> > > > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there

> are

> > > > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My

> son is 9

> > > > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of

> germs any

> > > > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit

> on his

> > > > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such

> as

> > > > getting them to try other foods??

> > > >

> >

> > ----------------

> > Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This

> evolved

> > into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

> > else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million

> reassurance

> > questions:

> > " Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER

> ME,

> > MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm

> such a

> > loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

> > horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

> > He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could

> check

> > for aliens, I guess)

> >

> > This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

> > If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and

> would

> > kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

> >

> > Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder

> how

> > we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

> > Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

> > Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

> > P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down,

> two

> > more to go! :)

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Hi,

My ten year old son spits, too. It used to be a big problem. He had this

symptom well before we realized he had OCD, so another " aha " . He seems

to spit now mostly in public (great!) now and outside like at the park or a

picnic, or amusement park so I am guessing it is contamination compulsion.

This behavior has gone way down. He was diagnosed in July and never

talked about his OCD, so it has been dtective work to figure it all out. He is

starting to tell us more and more.

Sincerely,

Ender

> > >

> > > > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there

> are

> > > > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My

> son is 9

> > > > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of

> germs any

> > > > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit

> on his

> > > > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such

> as

> > > > getting them to try other foods??

> > > >

> >

> > ----------------

> > Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This

> evolved

> > into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

> > else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million

> reassurance

> > questions:

> > " Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER

> ME,

> > MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm

> such a

> > loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

> > horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

> > He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could

> check

> > for aliens, I guess)

> >

> > This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

> > If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and

> would

> > kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

> >

> > Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder

> how

> > we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

> > Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

> > Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

> > P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down,

> two

> > more to go! :)

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Hi,

My ten year old son spits, too. It used to be a big problem. He had this

symptom well before we realized he had OCD, so another " aha " . He seems

to spit now mostly in public (great!) now and outside like at the park or a

picnic, or amusement park so I am guessing it is contamination compulsion.

This behavior has gone way down. He was diagnosed in July and never

talked about his OCD, so it has been dtective work to figure it all out. He is

starting to tell us more and more.

Sincerely,

Ender

> > >

> > > > I am new to the website, but it's almost a relief that there

> are

> > > > other parents out there dealing with a child with ocd. My

> son is 9

> > > > and a couple of months ago he started spitting because of

> germs any

> > > > ideas on how long these thoughts last, he will actually spit

> on his

> > > > own shirt sleeve. Has anyone ever had problems with food such

> as

> > > > getting them to try other foods??

> > > >

> >

> > ----------------

> > Yep - another mom chiming in about the spitting issue. This

> evolved

> > into a phobia that if I was mad about his OCD spitting (or anything

> > else) - I poisoned his food. Then, it was the 100 million

> reassurance

> > questions:

> > " Are you mad at me that I spit? You're mad at me, right? ANSWER

> ME,

> > MOM! You hate me, don't you? You poisoned my food because I'm

> such a

> > loser, RIGHT? The food is going to kill me, because I'm such a

> > horrible son, RIGHT? " on and on and on....

> > He also refused to drink liquids that weren't CLEAR (so he could

> check

> > for aliens, I guess)

> >

> > This drove ME crazy - so I can't imagine what it was doing to HIM.

> > If he found a dark speck in his food, that was indeed POISON and

> would

> > kill him dead (and his mother was the one poisoning him).

> >

> > Geez, when I think back to some of these crazy scenerios, I wonder

> how

> > we all lived thru' it!! So, hang in there, everyone.

> > Joni (thanking her lucky stars for medication!)

> > Mom of (13, OCD/TS and two adult sons, 23 and 21)

> > P.S. My oldest son is moving out this weekend!! *yay* One down,

> two

> > more to go! :)

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HI, thats the thing with autism and the schools. It seems that if a

child has a verbal problem they think they dont have a mind. I am in

the same boat as you have been. My son has functional speech but as

I call it he does not have conversational speech. But he is very

smart and I do think he is bored. Our schools are wasting our childs

brains. I hope it doesnt take 11 years like you, but it is good to

hear you have finally broke thru. My son spits when he is mad at

you. It is just another form of his aggression. Thanks for

responding Kathy

>

> Karac is 16 and went through a period of spitting last year. He

was

> particularly bad about it at school. They had a behavior

specialist out to the

> school and tried all kinds of things that didn't work. I think he

did it because

> he was bored and it entertained him,plus he got a lot of attention.

I

> suggested that they stop focusing on it and at my house I tried to

keep him busy

> riding bikes and going for walks. When he spit outside I said that

was ok.

> When we were in the house; I would say swallow. This year it

isn't a problem.

> At school they have finally learned that he can read, print, type

on the

> computer and do work. All the things that I have taught him with

his ABA

> program since he was three. Even though Karac has only functional

speech he likes

> to be mentally engaged. It only took the public school 11 years

to figure

> that out.

>

> Good luck and blessings, Pat K

>

>

> In a message dated 2/3/2009 1:20:38 A.M. Central Standard Time,

> kathytrilla@... writes:

>

>

>

>

> HI everyone, I havent posted in a while but I am just disgusted

with my

> inability to help my son with his school situation. I know you can

all

> understand this. My sons life has been turned upside down by

taking

> him out of a classroom and placing him in a classroom that has to

much

> noise in it. My son now has started spitting. Does anyone know why

he

> would start doing this? My thougt is that he was restrainted and

that

> was all he could do and now he does this when he is mad. Does this

> make sense? My son has a hypersensitive auditory problem. He

covers

> his ears when he can not take it. The class he was put into has a

> student that uncontrolablly screams. I could not take it when I

was

> there for a party. This is mental crulity and now I have other

> behavior problems. Any suggestions? Thanks kathy

>

>

>

>

> **************Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports

scores to

> stocks and so much more. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022)

>

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Hi Kathy! I missed seeing your posts! spits too! He has been doing that since last year! He will do it when he gets mad and also just because he thinks it is funny! I don't! He also blows spit bubbles and the more we say no he does it more! He will start spitting at me when I have to restrain him! I only do this if he is trying to hurt me, someone else, himself and in danger of breaking something during a rage! So why was he moved to this other room? Is it higher functioning or lower? I am thinking from what you said before lower right?I thought about calling you the other day! Are you going to be around? I would love to get together like we talked about.StacieSent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "kathytrilla" Date: Tue, 03 Feb 2009 07:20:15 -0000To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: spitting HI everyone, I havent posted in a while but I am just disgusted with my inability to help my son with his school situation. I know you can all understand this. My sons life has been turned upside down by taking him out of a classroom and placing him in a classroom that has to much noise in it. My son now has started spitting. Does anyone know why he would start doing this? My thougt is that he was restrainted and that was all he could do and now he does this when he is mad. Does this make sense? My son has a hypersensitive auditory problem. He covers his ears when he can not take it. The class he was put into has a student that uncontrolablly screams. I could not take it when I was there for a party. This is mental crulity and now I have other behavior problems. Any suggestions? Thanks kathy

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Kathy, since you are the mother you can negotiate with your son's school; I wasn't able to because I am the grandmother. I have added you and your son to my daily prayer. blessings, Pat K

HI, thats the thing with autism and the schools. It seems that if a child has a verbal problem they think they dont have a mind. I am in the same boat as you have been. My son has functional speech but as I call it he does not have conversational speech. But he is very smart and I do think he is bored. Our schools are wasting our childs brains. I hope it doesnt take 11 years like you, but it is good to hear you have finally broke thru. My son spits when he is mad at you. It is just another form of his aggression. Thanks for responding Kathy>> Karac is 16 and went through a period of spitting last year. He was > particularly bad about it at school. They had a behavior specialist out to the > school and tried all kinds of things that didn't work. I think he did it because > he was bored and it entertained him,plus he got a lot of attention. I > suggested that they stop focusing on it and at my house I tried to keep him busy > riding bikes and going for walks. When he spit outside I said that was ok. > When we were in the house; I would say swallow. This year it isn't a problem. > At school they have finally learned that he can read, print, type on the > computer and do work. All the things that I have taught him with his ABA > program since he was three. Even though Karac has only functional speech he likes > to be mentally engaged. It only took the public school 11 years to figure > that out. > > Good luck and blessings, Pat K> > > > > > > > HI everyone, I havent posted in a while but I am just disgusted with my > inability to help my son with his school situation. I know you can all > understand this. My sons life has been turned upside down by taking > him out of a classroom and placing him in a classroom that has to much > noise in it. My son now has started spitting. Does anyone know why he > would start doing this? My thougt is that he was restrainted and that > was all he could do and now he does this when he is mad. Does this > make sense? My son has a hypersensitive auditory problem. He covers > his ears when he can not take it. The class he was put into has a > student that uncontrolablly screams. I could not take it when I was > there for a party. This is mental crulity and now I have other > behavior problems. Any suggestions? Thanks kathy> > > > > **************Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to > stocks and so much more. (http://aol.com?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000022)> Stay up to date on the latest news - from sports scores to stocks and so much more.

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HI, Thank you for so much understanding what I am going thru. I do

not know if my son has been restrainted. But i do not trust the

school he is in. He could have seen another child do this at school.

the school is not truthful in what goes on. Since I kept asking the

aids last week if he was ok, and the principal, they have so as if I

have two heads on my shoulders that he is fine. My question is how

can a child be fine in one environement and be so aggressive in

another and now starts spitting? I am going thru a very hard time of

trust right now. I want my son to be safe. Forget about teaching

him. I will do that. Dont hurt him. This is what I want to say to

the school. Kathy

> >

> > HI everyone, I havent posted in a while but I am just disgusted

with my

> > inability to help my son with his school situation. I know you

can all

> > understand this. My sons life has been turned upside down by

taking

> > him out of a classroom and placing him in a classroom that has to

much

> > noise in it. My son now has started spitting. Does anyone know

why he

> > would start doing this? My thougt is that he was restrainted and

that

> > was all he could do and now he does this when he is mad. Does

this

> > make sense? My son has a hypersensitive auditory problem. He

covers

> > his ears when he can not take it. The class he was put into has

a

> > student that uncontrolablly screams. I could not take it when I

was

> > there for a party. This is mental crulity and now I have other

> > behavior problems. Any suggestions? Thanks kathy

> >

>

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