Re: sprouted pretzels

[Guest guest]

Melody

EW is right. You should give this some thought. You are the best honest

saleslady I know (who isn't selling anything)!

n

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:37 PM, " Ernest Willingham "

wrote:

> Mel,

> When I do my talks, I sell seeds and starter kits. Think about how you can

pick up a couple of extra dollars

> ew

>

> Re: sprouted pretzels

>

> Hi n: (and everybody)

>

> You're going to love this story.

>

> Last night we were at the Neuropathy support group meeting. We were 20 people

sitting around the table when one of the members announced " Tomorrow I shall be

on the road to become a complete vegan " . He then holds up some books about the

Vegan Lifestyle and how it reverses diabetes. This man is 63 years old, has a

pacemaker, has lost several toes to diabetes, has a 97 year old mother who is SO

WELL, I can't tell you. And he says " Hey, if I can add 20 more years by being a

Vegan I will do it'.

>

> I then chimed in " , you know I sprout, right? "

>

> He looked at me as if to remember what sprouting is. Don't forget, we are a

group of people with various forms of neuropathy and that is the focus of the

meetings once a month. I have MENTIONED that I sprout, but they always show up

for my blueberry muffins anyway.

>

> So I said " , would you like me to bring you a ziplock bag of sprouts at

the next meeting. Then I spoke for about 5 minutes on the benefits of sprouting,

the benefits of eating raw, etc. etc. "

>

> The leader of the meeting said to me " Melody, next month, instead of your

muffins why not bring a bag of sprouts to share with everyone.

>

> I said " I shall bring little ziplock bags of sprouts for each person. They can

take them home, sprinkle them on their salads and decide if they like sprouts "

I'll bring a combination but I won't use Alfalfa because some people have

auto-immune issues.

>

> And to top it off, I'll bring one of my round green Sproutgarden trays and it

will be BURSTING with my nice green sprouts. I'll then walk around the room

showing everyone.

>

> AND I'LL BRING MY FLIP.

>

> So you all can see their reactions.

>

> Now won't that be FUN!!!!!!!???

>

> lol

>

> Melody

>

>

[Guest guest]

I am so sorry, . I think perhaps I'm considering the beautiful tape I had

called " Among the Giant Trees of the Wild Pacific Coast " (I LOVE that title!!).

One of the tracks is a great thunder/lightning storm (mostly thunder and

crashing rain) recorded in the mountains. It's awesome! Used to be my preferred

" put me to sleep " tape until it got worn out and I've never been able to replace

it.

 

From now on, I'll consider thunder and rain only, no lightning. Although it is

truly spectacular!!

 

Hope something good comes of the weather...

 

Peggy

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 4:30 PM

Subject: Re: sprouted pretzels

 

I live in the mountains, and we just got nailed AGAIN, by serious storms for the

third time this year-yet ANOTHER of my gardens trashed for the season!! I USED

to love a good lightening storm in the mountains...but I am OVER it, lol

>

> Hi n,

>  

> I am so envious! I adore lightning storms!! Especially when they're

accompanied by lots of thunder - and most especially in the mountains!

[Guest guest]

n

Are you saying I should be selling seeds or sprouting things? We are not

allowed to do any kind of business that way at any support group meetings. They

made that clear early on. We can talk about healthy this and healthy that, but

we are NOT allowed to offer anything for sale (unless it's a Neuropathy cream or

lotion and then it has to be cleared by the Neuropathy Association or the CIDP

foundation).

It really wouldn't matter anyway. Mike (the new Vegan is the youngest (at 63).

Most of the members are in their 70's and some late 80's.

And if you think they are going to start to learn how to sprout, forget it.

lol

But I'm still going to bring little ziplock bags of my sprouts and give one to

each member at the meeting.

Now will they take them home??? Ah, that's another question.

lol

melody

[Guest guest]

Oh My God,

I'm a Sprout Ambassador!!!!

lol

Melody

>

> Yes, that will be fun, Melody! Can't wait to see their reactions to our own

Sprout Ambassador's gift of health!!

>  

> Good for you, Melody!

>  

> Peggy

>

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 8:03 AM

> Subject: Re: sprouted pretzels

>

>

>  

> Hi n: (and everybody)

>

> You're going to love this story.

>

> Last night we were at the Neuropathy support group meeting. We were 20 people

sitting around the table when one of the members announced " Tomorrow I shall be

on the road to become a complete vegan " . He then holds up some books about the

Vegan Lifestyle and how it reverses diabetes. This man is 63 years old, has a

pacemaker, has lost several toes to diabetes, has a 97 year old mother who is SO

WELL, I can't tell you. And he says " Hey, if I can add 20 more years by being a

Vegan I will do it'.

>

> I then chimed in " , you know I sprout, right? "

>

> He looked at me as if to remember what sprouting is. Don't forget, we are a

group of people with various forms of neuropathy and that is the focus of the

meetings once a month. I have MENTIONED that I sprout, but they always show up

for my blueberry muffins anyway.

>

> So I said " , would you like me to bring you a ziplock bag of sprouts at

the next meeting. Then I spoke for about 5 minutes on the benefits of sprouting,

the benefits of eating raw, etc. etc. "

>

> The leader of the meeting said to me " Melody, next month, instead of your

muffins why not bring a bag of sprouts to share with everyone.

>

> I said " I shall bring little ziplock bags of sprouts for each person. They can

take them home, sprinkle them on their salads and decide if they like sprouts "

I'll bring a combination but I won't use Alfalfa because some people have

auto-immune issues.

>

> And to top it off, I'll bring one of my round green Sproutgarden trays and it

will be BURSTING with my nice green sprouts. I'll then walk around the room

showing everyone.

>

> AND I'LL BRING MY FLIP.

>

> So you all can see their reactions.

>

> Now won't that be FUN!!!!!!!???

>

> lol

>

> Melody

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Mel,

That group is not the only place where you talk about sprouting. You take

sprouts to your Doctor. Get the nurses interested, and like that. How about all

the people at breakfast.

It can be done.

ew

Re: sprouted pretzels

n

Are you saying I should be selling seeds or sprouting things? We are not

allowed to do any kind of business that way at any support group meetings. They

made that clear early on. We can talk about healthy this and healthy that, but

we are NOT allowed to offer anything for sale (unless it's a Neuropathy cream or

lotion and then it has to be cleared by the Neuropathy Association or the CIDP

foundation).

It really wouldn't matter anyway. Mike (the new Vegan is the youngest (at 63).

Most of the members are in their 70's and some late 80's.

And if you think they are going to start to learn how to sprout, forget it.

lol

But I'm still going to bring little ziplock bags of my sprouts and give one to

each member at the meeting.

Now will they take them home??? Ah, that's another question.

lol

melody

[Guest guest]

People at breakfast?? I have been bringing my sprouts to breakfast for 2 years.

I have showed all of them. NO ONE IS INTERESTED. You can bet the farm on that.

And in my doctor's office, (well I'm going there again with my husband next

month and I'm bringing a new batch of sprouts).

I'll see if I can get someone interested.

I tried at his former office. I was standing there with a big ziplock bag of

sprouts ready to hand it to him. He comes out and announces. " Look at Melody,

look what she brings me, and she grows it herself " ?

That got about 2 minutes worth of attention because all of the office staff were

eating out of a Dunkin Donuts Box

And you want me to teach them how to sprout?

Really??

lol lol lol

You know what I really think? You can't teach anyone who doesn't want to change

their lifestyle.

People have approached me. That's who I talk to.

It's never worked the other way around.

I watch their eyes. As soon as they eyes get glazed over, I know I've lost them

and they are busy digging into their bacon, eggs, hash browns and french toast.

And yes, THAT'S ALL ON ONE PLATE!!!

lol

Melody

>

> Mel,

> That group is not the only place where you talk about sprouting. You take

sprouts to your Doctor. Get the nurses interested, and like that. How about all

the people at breakfast.

> It can be done.

> ew

>

[Guest guest]

~~~~~

I can eat my sprouts and

the dunkin donuts, bacon, eggs, hash browns, and french toast (in moderation as

treats to myself).

Holly

Holly Canfield

[Guest guest]

I remember what I used to eat and I can't believe I'm still alive.

I used to make these hero sandwiches with salami, sliced provolone, tomatoes,

loads of mayo, and my favorite on this sandwich was OLIVE LOAF.

I did this for years.

Good Lord!!!

lol

Melody

>

> ~~~~~

>

> I can eat my sprouts and

>

>

> the dunkin donuts, bacon, eggs, hash browns, and french toast (in moderation

as treats to myself).

>

> Holly

> Holly Canfield

>

[Guest guest]

Maybe you're right. The people that I talk to, hire me to come speak to them. I

get paid twice. I get a speaker's fee, all sell stuff. And depending on the

distance, I get gas money.

ew

Re: sprouted pretzels

People at breakfast?? I have been bringing my sprouts to breakfast for 2 years.

I have showed all of them. NO ONE IS INTERESTED. You can bet the farm on that.

And in my doctor's office, (well I'm going there again with my husband next

month and I'm bringing a new batch of sprouts).

I'll see if I can get someone interested.

I tried at his former office. I was standing there with a big ziplock bag of

sprouts ready to hand it to him. He comes out and announces. " Look at Melody,

look what she brings me, and she grows it herself " ?

That got about 2 minutes worth of attention because all of the office staff

were eating out of a Dunkin Donuts Box

And you want me to teach them how to sprout?

Really??

lol lol lol

You know what I really think? You can't teach anyone who doesn't want to change

their lifestyle.

People have approached me. That's who I talk to.

It's never worked the other way around.

I watch their eyes. As soon as they eyes get glazed over, I know I've lost them

and they are busy digging into their bacon, eggs, hash browns and french toast.

And yes, THAT'S ALL ON ONE PLATE!!!

lol

Melody

>

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[Guest guest]

Sometimes in the grocery store, I will ask a person if they have read the lable

on something that's in their basket. I often get the answer, " Who's cares " ? No

wonder that the Western Diet is killing America.

ew

Re: sprouted pretzels

People at breakfast?? I have been bringing my sprouts to breakfast for 2 years.

I have showed all of them. NO ONE IS INTERESTED. You can bet the farm on that.

And in my doctor's office, (well I'm going there again with my husband next

month and I'm bringing a new batch of sprouts).

I'll see if I can get someone interested.

I tried at his former office. I was standing there with a big ziplock bag of

sprouts ready to hand it to him. He comes out and announces. " Look at Melody,

look what she brings me, and she grows it herself " ?

That got about 2 minutes worth of attention because all of the office staff

were eating out of a Dunkin Donuts Box

And you want me to teach them how to sprout?

Really??

lol lol lol

You know what I really think? You can't teach anyone who doesn't want to change

their lifestyle.

People have approached me. That's who I talk to.

It's never worked the other way around.

I watch their eyes. As soon as they eyes get glazed over, I know I've lost them

and they are busy digging into their bacon, eggs, hash browns and french toast.

And yes, THAT'S ALL ON ONE PLATE!!!

lol

[Guest guest]

Amen to that!!! Plus most of the foods in today's carts have labels, (so it's

probably like trying to read a mini-novel anyway with all that labeling, LOL)

rather than buying fresh, non-labeled food such as produce!!

And Melody's right - people have to approach you first - otherwise, they are not

inclined to learn or want to change their diet. There's a lady in my office who

is interested in learning out to sprout and I'm happy to teach her. They know I

bring my sprouts for lunch and I've even shared them as well. The fact that I

work in a wellness practice does tend to add more credibility to my sprouting

and the interest level is higher as well.

T.

From: sproutpeople [mailto:sproutpeople ] On

Behalf Of Ernest Willingham

Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 9:03 PM

To: sproutpeople

Subject: Re: sprouted pretzels

Sometimes in the grocery store, I will ask a person if they have read the lable

on something that's in their basket. I often get the answer, " Who's cares " ? No

wonder that the Western Diet is killing America.

ew

Re: sprouted pretzels

People at breakfast?? I have been bringing my sprouts to breakfast for 2 years.

I have showed all of them. NO ONE IS INTERESTED. You can bet the farm on that.

And in my doctor's office, (well I'm going there again with my husband next

month and I'm bringing a new batch of sprouts).

I'll see if I can get someone interested.

I tried at his former office. I was standing there with a big ziplock bag of

sprouts ready to hand it to him. He comes out and announces. " Look at Melody,

look what she brings me, and she grows it herself " ?

That got about 2 minutes worth of attention because all of the office staff were

eating out of a Dunkin Donuts Box

And you want me to teach them how to sprout?

Really??

lol lol lol

You know what I really think? You can't teach anyone who doesn't want to change

their lifestyle.

People have approached me. That's who I talk to.

It's never worked the other way around.

I watch their eyes. As soon as they eyes get glazed over, I know I've lost them

and they are busy digging into their bacon, eggs, hash browns and french toast.

And yes, THAT'S ALL ON ONE PLATE!!!

lol

[Guest guest]

Melody

I wasn't suggesting anyplace in particular-and certainly not that you break any

rules lol

Maybe you should consider giving a talk at a local library or health food store

and bring some things along as EW describes.

Just wish you could profit from the good you do. I know your profit is in the

satisfaction of helping others, but a little extra cash couldn't hurt

n

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPad

> n

>

> Are you saying I should be selling seeds or sprouting things? We are not

allowed to do any kind of business that way at any support group meetings. They

made that clear early on. We can talk about healthy this and healthy that, but

we are NOT allowed to offer anything for sale (unless it's a Neuropathy cream or

lotion and then it has to be cleared by the Neuropathy Association or the CIDP

foundation).

>

> It really wouldn't matter anyway. Mike (the new Vegan is the youngest (at 63).

>

> Most of the members are in their 70's and some late 80's.

>

> And if you think they are going to start to learn how to sprout, forget it.

>

> lol

>

> But I'm still going to bring little ziplock bags of my sprouts and give one to

each member at the meeting.

>

> Now will they take them home??? Ah, that's another question.

>

> lol

> melody

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey, what a t shirt that says " ask me why I sprout " or something like that?

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPad

On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:23 PM, " Ernest Willingham "

wrote:

> Mel,

> That group is not the only place where you talk about sprouting. You take

sprouts to your Doctor. Get the nurses interested, and like that. How about all

the people at breakfast.

> It can be done.

> ew

>

> Re: sprouted pretzels

>

> n

>

> Are you saying I should be selling seeds or sprouting things? We are not

allowed to do any kind of business that way at any support group meetings. They

made that clear early on. We can talk about healthy this and healthy that, but

we are NOT allowed to offer anything for sale (unless it's a Neuropathy cream or

lotion and then it has to be cleared by the Neuropathy Association or the CIDP

foundation).

>

> It really wouldn't matter anyway. Mike (the new Vegan is the youngest (at 63).

>

> Most of the members are in their 70's and some late 80's.

>

> And if you think they are going to start to learn how to sprout, forget it.

>

> lol

>

> But I'm still going to bring little ziplock bags of my sprouts and give one to

each member at the meeting.

>

> Now will they take them home??? Ah, that's another question.

>

> lol

> melody

>

>

[Guest guest]

HEY! That's a great idea!

I have a shirt that says: *Worms eat my garbage*, for when ever I speak on

vermiculture.

ew

Re: sprouted pretzels

>

> n

>

> Are you saying I should be selling seeds or sprouting things? We are not

allowed to do any kind of business that way at any support group meetings. They

made that clear early on. We can talk about healthy this and healthy that, but

we are NOT allowed to offer anything for sale (unless it's a Neuropathy cream or

lotion and then it has to be cleared by the Neuropathy Association or the CIDP

foundation).

>

> It really wouldn't matter anyway. Mike (the new Vegan is the youngest (at

63).

>

> Most of the members are in their 70's and some late 80's.

>

> And if you think they are going to start to learn how to sprout, forget it.

>

> lol

>

> But I'm still going to bring little ziplock bags of my sprouts and give one

to each member at the meeting.

>

> Now will they take them home??? Ah, that's another question.

>

> lol

> melody

>

>

[Guest guest]

Now THAT's what I call GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT SPROUTING "

Does not work like that in Brooklyn. Absolutely no one cares about sprouting.

I only wish I knew about this 30 years ago. I might not have gotten diabetes.

But I'll never know.

Melody

[Guest guest]

Hi n.

I will have to be happy with taking my videos and sharing them here and on

youtube.

Believe me, I get LOTS of inspiration and loads of satisfaction just doing that.

The funniest reaction I ever got was actually about a year ago when I was at

that Neuropathy meeting.

At that time I used to bring my supper with me. It was grilled something or

other over my sprout salad.

One of the guys said " What are you eating? " I looked at him and I said:

" Oh, don't you know what these are? I grow the in my kitchen "

He said: " you grow stuff in your kitchen, what do you grow? "

I said:

" SPROUTS "

Well, I never laughed so hard at his reaction. He said (in a loud voice).

SPROUTS???? SPROUTS??? What the h are SPROUTS?? "

I laughed so hard, and he started to laugh.

I explained it all and he said " I could never eat that "

He was a single man, never cooked anything in his life and lived on

microwaveable meals.

I asked him " Would you like to learn? " He said " Are you kidding, that's rabbit

food " .

So that was the end of that discussion.

Another time I was at my podiatrist office, sitting in the chair and because I

know he raises Oxialis and he has some kind of greenhouse, I said " Do you know

what sprouts are? " And he said " Yeah, the stuff they serve at salad bars, I HATE

THEM?

And I had been about to ask him if he would like a bag of sprouts. Thank God I

didn't ask him.

He made a face and said " who on earth eats those things? "

Who indeed???

lol

Melody

>

> > n

> >

> > Are you saying I should be selling seeds or sprouting things? We are not

allowed to do any kind of business that way at any support group meetings. They

made that clear early on. We can talk about healthy this and healthy that, but

we are NOT allowed to offer anything for sale (unless it's a Neuropathy cream or

lotion and then it has to be cleared by the Neuropathy Association or the CIDP

foundation).

> >

> > It really wouldn't matter anyway. Mike (the new Vegan is the youngest (at

63).

> >

> > Most of the members are in their 70's and some late 80's.

> >

> > And if you think they are going to start to learn how to sprout, forget it.

> >

> > lol

> >

> > But I'm still going to bring little ziplock bags of my sprouts and give one

to each member at the meeting.

> >

> > Now will they take them home??? Ah, that's another question.

> >

> > lol

> > melody

> >

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Oh how funny. The other day I was thinking of having a t shirt printed up that

said " SPROUTLADY " on it.

so cool

lol

Melody

[Guest guest]

So many people only know the flavor of alfalfa sprouts and those are kinda bland

and blech compared to clover and radish and some of the rest (that's all I've

had so far, I'm expanding my horizons )

I'm so excited to try the french garden mix I'm sprouting now! And the russian

garden, and the amber waves of grain and the peasant mix! I get the feeling

I'll be the next one " spreading the news " .

I even told my mom today that the way I had been told to sprout 15 years ago and

had problems with mold etc was wrong. She just dug out my old trays last week

and was going to get rid of them. She asked if I would share my seeds with her!

Holly Canfield

[Guest guest]

Wow, way to go!!

Melody

>

> So many people only know the flavor of alfalfa sprouts and those are kinda

bland and blech compared to clover and radish and some of the rest (that's all

I've had so far, I'm expanding my horizons )

>

> I'm so excited to try the french garden mix I'm sprouting now! And the

russian garden, and the amber waves of grain and the peasant mix! I get the

feeling I'll be the next one " spreading the news " .

>

> I even told my mom today that the way I had been told to sprout 15 years ago

and had problems with mold etc was wrong. She just dug out my old trays last

week and was going to get rid of them. She asked if I would share my seeds with

her!

>

> Holly Canfield

>

[Guest guest]

Way to go Holly!

The Russian Mix is one of my favorites. The Italian I enjoy for it's lovely

cress taste. The French mix and the grain mix are on my next order list.

Broccoli mixed with radish or mustard is awesome too.

It is so fun trying different sprout mixes!

n

>

[Guest guest]

---- Holly Canfield wrote:

> So many people only know the flavor of alfalfa sprouts and those are kinda

bland and blech compared to clover and radish and some of the rest (that's all

I've had so far, I'm expanding my horizons )

> What is all of this talk clouding up my email space? Please, give a brother a

juice break! ASAP,get me from all of this talk and give me a break and

unsubcribe me from your rap list. This talk, talk, talk is just too much. O.K?

Thanks, but no thanks!!!!! McKinley

> I'm so excited to try the french garden mix I'm sprouting now! And the

russian garden, and the amber waves of grain and the peasant mix! I get the

feeling I'll be the next one " spreading the news " .

>

> I even told my mom today that the way I had been told to sprout 15 years ago

and had problems with mold etc was wrong. She just dug out my old trays last

week and was going to get rid of them. She asked if I would share my seeds with

her!

>

> Holly Canfield

[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

Welcome to the group. The French Garden is outstanding. It is the mix that

finally got my wife to start eating sprouts. Plus, I grow sunflower sprouts in

my kitchen window sill, and she loves to nibble them and put them on sandwiches.

Try mixing your alfalfa seeds with equal amount of broccoli seed. I think

you'll like them.

ew

Re: sprouted pretzels

So many people only know the flavor of alfalfa sprouts and those are kinda

bland and blech compared to clover and radish and some of the rest (that's all

I've had so far, I'm expanding my horizons )

I'm so excited to try the french garden mix I'm sprouting now! And the russian

garden, and the amber waves of grain and the peasant mix! I get the feeling I'll

be the next one " spreading the news " .

I even told my mom today that the way I had been told to sprout 15 years ago

and had problems with mold etc was wrong. She just dug out my old trays last

week and was going to get rid of them. She asked if I would share my seeds with

her!

Holly Canfield

[Guest guest]

You have to take yourself off the list.

Holly was talking about sprouting which is what we are about here

It is all positive.

Ciao

n Rollings, PhD

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my IPod Touch

>

> ---- Holly Canfield wrote:

> > So many people only know the flavor of alfalfa sprouts and those are kinda

bland and blech compared to clover and radish and some of the rest (that's all

I've had so far, I'm expanding my horizons )

> > What is all of this talk clouding up my email space? Please, give a brother

a juice break! ASAP,get me from all of this talk and give me a break and

unsubcribe me from your rap list. This talk, talk, talk is just too much. O.K?

Thanks, but no thanks!!!!! McKinley

>

> > I'm so excited to try the french garden mix I'm sprouting now! And the

russian garden, and the amber waves of grain and the peasant mix! I get the

feeling I'll be the next one " spreading the news " .

> >

> > I even told my mom today that the way I had been told to sprout 15 years ago

and had problems with mold etc was wrong. She just dug out my old trays last

week and was going to get rid of them. She asked if I would share my seeds with

her!

> >

> > Holly Canfield

>

>

[Guest guest]

Holly

I just noticed that the person with the complaint cc'd your personal email

Since it was hostile and unwarranted and directed at you, I think you should

notify the list owners so this guy is booted and banned

This happened to me and I let the list owners know.

The persons were immediately removed and banned

So sorry he picked on you

n

n Rollings, PhD

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

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> ---- Holly Canfield wrote:

> > So many people only know the flavor of alfalfa sprouts and those are kinda

bland and blech compared to clover and radish and some of the rest (that's all

I've had so far, I'm expanding my horizons )

> > What is all of this talk clouding up my email space? Please, give a brother

a juice break! ASAP,get me from all of this talk and give me a break and

unsubcribe me from your rap list. This talk, talk, talk is just too much. O.K?

Thanks, but no thanks!!!!! McKinley

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> > I'm so excited to try the french garden mix I'm sprouting now! And the

russian garden, and the amber waves of grain and the peasant mix! I get the

feeling I'll be the next one " spreading the news " .

> >

> > I even told my mom today that the way I had been told to sprout 15 years ago

and had problems with mold etc was wrong. She just dug out my old trays last

week and was going to get rid of them. She asked if I would share my seeds with

her!

> >

> > Holly Canfield

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[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

 

We love Amber Waves of Grain (I used some in my homemade bread a few days ago

and it was awesome!). One of my favs is Mother's Mix. It's just yummy! Do give

it a try.

 

Peggy