Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 Dear all, is right about the Spanish spelling, it is " naive " not " naivo " (my Spanish is a bit far in this direction FR>SP :-) The most important is to render the concept of " naive " , it is what I meant. So, you'll find below several Spanish URLs, all dealing with AIDS. It seems that the construction of the sentence may be " naive a antirretrovirales " , but, maybe, it is a sort of adaptation of the English form, my Spanish is not good enough to know the answer to this grammatical question. Here are the addresses : HIH http://www.ctv.es/USERS/fpardo/vihresis.htm http://www.foro-vih.org/drfax/drfax51/drf5113.html V Congreso Nacional sobre el Sida : http://diariomedico.com/grandeshist/sida/congreso.html http://www.diariomedico.com/infecciosas/n061099.html http://www.gesidaseimc.com/congresos/seutxt98.html GUILLIAUMET - France Traductions Médicales - Médecine et Pharmacologie Medical Translations - Medicine and Pharmacology E-mail : cgtradmed@... Phone : +33 (0)4 75 90 96 85 Fax : + 33 (0)4 75 90 96 91 -----Message d'origine----- De : MD Munoa À : medical_translationegroups <medical_translationegroups> Date : lundi 24 avril 2000 01:04 Objet : Re: HELP HELP HELP Sorry to disagree, but " naivos " does not exist in Spanish texts on AIDS. What we find is " pacientes _naive_ " , " pacientes vírgenes de tratamiento antirretroviral " , " pacientes que no han recibido nunca antirretrovirales " or the like. Best regards, > > > >> HELP HELP HELP > >> > >> > Hello Ester: > >> > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are patients that > have > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say " virgens de > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> Deyse Sauaya > >> Rio de Janeiro > >> > Gracias a todos > >> > > >> > Ester Cabral, MD > >> > dcest@n... > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > >> > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > >> > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956433570/ > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >> > > >> > > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > >> Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > >> Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > >> registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > >> http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956516114/ > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > >http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956518589/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956530848/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 Bonjour Ne parlant pas un traitre mot d'espagnol, je n'ai pu que suivre cette discussion de loin, mais d'un oeil intéressé néanmoins. Si j'ai bien compris, les 'naifs' sont les patients HIV-positif n'ayant reçc aucun traitement antirétroviral auparavant. Je me demandais par pure curiosité quelle est la terminologie utilisée en français dans ce cas? Merci de vos éclaircissements et bonne fin de week-end pascal (Glorious weather in the South of France Folks!) Cordialement, Jean-Pierre Exiga (Mr) Medical Translator/Traducteur Médical 9, Square Michelet 13009 Marseille - France Tel: +33 (0) 4 91 71 00 12 Mobile: +33 (0) 6 14 81 29 87 e-mail: jp.exiga@... HELP HELP HELP > > >> > > >> > Hello Ester: > > >> > > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are patients > that > > have > > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say > " virgens de > > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> > > >> Deyse Sauaya > > >> Rio de Janeiro > > >> > Gracias a todos > > >> > > > >> > Ester Cabral, MD > > >> > dcest@n... > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million > alumni > > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance > you'll > > >> > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > >> > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956433570/ > > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >> Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > >> Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > >> registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > >> http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956516114/ > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > >http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956518589/ > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956530848/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956569167/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 En français, on dit les patients naïfs de traitement .... Voir l'un des meilleurs sites SIDA français, celui d'Act-Up, extrêmement bien documenté http://www.actupp.org/auppage51.html GUILLIAUMET - France Traductions Médicales - Médecine et Pharmacologie Medical Translations - Medicine and Pharmacology E-mail : cgtradmed@... Phone : +33 (0)4 75 90 96 85 Fax : + 33 (0)4 75 90 96 91 -----Message d'origine----- De : JP.Exiga À : medical_translationegroups <medical_translationegroups> Date : lundi 24 avril 2000 12:36 Objet : Re: HELP HELP HELP -Naive >Bonjour > >Ne parlant pas un traitre mot d'espagnol, je n'ai pu que suivre cette >discussion de loin, mais d'un oeil intéressé néanmoins. > >Si j'ai bien compris, les 'naifs' sont les patients HIV-positif n'ayant reçc >aucun traitement antirétroviral auparavant. > >Je me demandais par pure curiosité quelle est la terminologie utilisée en >français dans ce cas? > >Merci de vos éclaircissements et bonne fin de week-end pascal (Glorious >weather in the South of France Folks!) > >Cordialement, > >Jean-Pierre Exiga (Mr) >Medical Translator/Traducteur Médical >9, Square Michelet >13009 Marseille - France >Tel: +33 (0) 4 91 71 00 12 >Mobile: +33 (0) 6 14 81 29 87 >e-mail: jp.exiga@... > HELP HELP HELP >> > >> >> > >> > Hello Ester: >> > >> >> > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are patients >> that >> > have >> > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say >> " virgens de >> > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. >> > >> >> > >> Best regards, >> > >> >> > >> Deyse Sauaya >> > >> Rio de Janeiro >> > >> > Gracias a todos >> > >> > >> > >> > Ester Cabral, MD >> > >> > dcest@n... >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million >> alumni >> > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance >> you'll >> > >> > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: >> > >> > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956433570/ >> > >> >> > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > >> Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. >> > >> Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already >> > >> registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: >> > >> http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956516114/ >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > > >> > > >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> > >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. >> > >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already >> > >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: >> > >http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956518589/ >> > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> > > >> > > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni >> already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll >> find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: >> http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956530848/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni >> already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll >> find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: >> http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956569167/ >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >eGroups eLerts >It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! >http://click./1/3079/2/_/98296/_/956572370/ >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 Merci Jean-Pierre Exiga (Mr) Medical Translator/Traducteur Médical 9, Square Michelet 13009 Marseille - France Tel: +33 (0) 4 91 71 00 12 Mobile: +33 (0) 6 14 81 29 87 e-mail: jp.exiga@... HELP HELP HELP > >> > >> > >> > >> > Hello Ester: > >> > >> > >> > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are patients > >> that > >> > have > >> > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say > >> " virgens de > >> > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. > >> > >> > >> > >> Best regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Deyse Sauaya > >> > >> Rio de Janeiro > >> > >> > Gracias a todos > >> > >> > > >> > >> > Ester Cabral, MD > >> > >> > dcest@n... > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million > >> alumni > >> > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance > >> you'll > >> > >> > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > >> > >> > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956433570/ > >> > >> > >> > > > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> > >> Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > >> > >> Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > >> > >> registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > >> > >> http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956516114/ > >> > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> -- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- > >> > >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > >> > >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > >> > >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > >> > >http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956518589/ > >> > > >> >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> --- > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > >> already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > >> find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > >> http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956530848/ > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > >> already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > >> find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > >> http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956569167/ > >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >> > >> > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >eGroups eLerts > >It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > >http://click./1/3079/2/_/98296/_/956572370/ > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956578517/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 In french I guess it must be " naïf " . In this particular context " naive " means b : not previously subjected to experimentation or a particular experimental situation <made the test with naive rats>; also: not having previously used a particular drug (as marijuana) (Webster OnLine). " naive " o, peor todavía, el españolizado " naivo " . Para este viaje no necesitábamos alforjas. Donde dice alforjas léase traductores. LP Re: HELP HELP HELP -Naive Bonjour Ne parlant pas un traitre mot d'espagnol, je n'ai pu que suivre cette discussion de loin, mais d'un oeil intéressé néanmoins. Si j'ai bien compris, les 'naifs' sont les patients HIV-positif n'ayant reçc aucun traitement antirétroviral auparavant. Je me demandais par pure curiosité quelle est la terminologie utilisée en français dans ce cas? Merci de vos éclaircissements et bonne fin de week-end pascal (Glorious weather in the South of France Folks!) Cordialement, Jean-Pierre Exiga (Mr) Medical Translator/Traducteur Médical 9, Square Michelet 13009 Marseille - France Tel: +33 (0) 4 91 71 00 12 Mobile: +33 (0) 6 14 81 29 87 e-mail: jp.exiga@... HELP HELP HELP > > >> > > >> > Hello Ester: > > >> > > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are patients > that > > have > > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say > " virgens de > > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. > > >> > > >> Best regards, > > >> > > >> Deyse Sauaya > > >> Rio de Janeiro > > >> > Gracias a todos > > >> > > > >> > Ester Cabral, MD > > >> > dcest@n... > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million > alumni > > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance > you'll > > >> > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > >> > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956433570/ > > >> > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > >> Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > >> Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > >> registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > >> http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956516114/ > > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > >http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956518589/ > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956530848/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956569167/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eGroups eLerts It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! http://click./1/3079/2/_/98296/_/956572370/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 ¡Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, ! Tiene que haber una forma mejor de expresarlo. Puesto que a las " naive T cells " se les llama " linfocitos T vírgenes " , ¿por qué no seguir la estela portuguesa que nos señalaba Deyse Sauaya y decir " pacientes vírgenes de tratamiento antirretroviral " ? Saludos cordiales > > > > > > > >> HELP HELP HELP > > > >> > > > >> > Hello Ester: > > > >> > > > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are patients > > that > > > have > > > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say > > " virgens de > > > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. > > > >> > > > >> Best regards, > > > >> > > > >> Deyse Sauaya > > > >> Rio de Janeiro > > > >> > Gracias a todos > > > >> > > > > >> > Ester Cabral, MD > > > >> > dcest@n... > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million > > alumni > > > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance > > you'll > > > >> > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > > >> > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956433570/ > > > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > >> Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > > >> Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > > >> registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > > >> http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956516114/ > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > > >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > > >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > > >http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956518589/ > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956530848/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956569167/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click./1/3079/2/_/98296/_/956572370/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2000 Report Share Posted April 24, 2000 Dear and all, You can call it the way you want, the only thing the AIDS Research community asks you is to preserve the " naive " concept. Thank you for understanding our " harmonization " concern in such a difficult and critical area. The patients thank you too. GUILLIAUMET - France Traductions Médicales - Médecine et Pharmacologie Medical Translations - Medicine and Pharmacology E-mail : cgtradmed@... Phone : +33 (0)4 75 90 96 85 Fax : + 33 (0)4 75 90 96 91 -----Message d'origine----- De : MD Munoa À : medical_translationegroups <medical_translationegroups> Date : lundi 24 avril 2000 16:40 Objet : Re: RE: HELP HELP HELP -Naive ¡Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, ! Tiene que haber una forma mejor de expresarlo. Puesto que a las " naive T cells " se les llama " linfocitos T vírgenes " , ¿por qué no seguir la estela portuguesa que nos señalaba Deyse Sauaya y decir " pacientes vírgenes de tratamiento antirretroviral " ? Saludos cordiales > > > > > > > >> HELP HELP HELP > > > >> > > > >> > Hello Ester: > > > >> > > > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are patients > > that > > > have > > > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say > > " virgens de > > > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. > > > >> > > > >> Best regards, > > > >> > > > >> Deyse Sauaya > > > >> Rio de Janeiro > > > >> > Gracias a todos > > > >> > > > > >> > Ester Cabral, MD > > > >> > dcest@n... > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million > > alumni > > > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance > > you'll > > > >> > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > > >> > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956433570/ > > > >> > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > >> Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > > >> Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > > >> registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > > >> http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956516114/ > > > >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > >Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. > > > >Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already > > > >registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: > > > >http://click./1/2885/2/_/98296/_/956518589/ > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956530848/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni > > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll > > find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: > > http://click./1/3139/2/_/98296/_/956569167/ > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > eGroups eLerts > It's Easy. It's Fun. Best of All, it's Free! > http://click./1/3079/2/_/98296/_/956572370/ > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2000 Report Share Posted April 25, 2000 Hola , No sé si te servirá de ayuda pero yo en un libro sobre el sida escrito por varios médicos españoles he llegado a encontrar tres formas de expresar el concepto: naive (tal cual en inglés), paciente virgen (como ya has propuesto) y finalmente paciente no tratado. Al final nos decantamos por naive, pero a mi personalmente no me satisface mucho la traducción. Saludos, Sílvia > -----Mensaje original----- > De: cgtradmed > Enviado el: lunes, 24 de abril de 2000 8:28 > Para: medical_translationegroups > Asunto: Re: RE: HELP HELP HELP -Naive > > > Dear and all, > You can call it the way you want, the only thing the AIDS > Research community > asks you is to preserve the " naive " concept. > Thank you for understanding our " harmonization " concern in such a > difficult > and critical area. The patients thank you too. > GUILLIAUMET - France > Traductions Médicales - Médecine et Pharmacologie > Medical Translations - Medicine and Pharmacology > E-mail : cgtradmed@... > Phone : +33 (0)4 75 90 96 85 > Fax : + 33 (0)4 75 90 96 91 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : MD Munoa > À : medical_translationegroups <medical_translationegroups> > Date : lundi 24 avril 2000 16:40 > Objet : Re: RE: HELP HELP HELP -Naive > > > ¡Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, ! Tiene que haber una forma > mejor > de expresarlo. Puesto que a las " naive T cells " se les llama > " linfocitos T vírgenes " , ¿por qué no seguir la estela > portuguesa que > nos señalaba Deyse Sauaya y decir " pacientes vírgenes de > tratamiento > antirretroviral " ? > > Saludos cordiales > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> HELP HELP HELP > > > > >> > > > > >> > Hello Ester: > > > > >> > > > > >> lo que necesito es el antiretroviral-naive - These are > patients > > > that > > > > have > > > > >> never received antiretroviral therapy. In portuguese we say > > > " virgens de > > > > >> terapia anti-retroviral. It sounds weird, but it is used. > > > > >> > > > > >> Best regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Deyse Sauaya > > > > >> Rio de Janeiro > > > > >> > Gracias a todos > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Ester Cabral, MD > > > > >> > dcest@n... > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > > > > >> > Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 > million > > > alumni > > > > >> > already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance > > > you'll > > > > >> > find her here. 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