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you are discribing my son Mikael exactly!

heather

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Does anyone here have a child who has asperger's also have obsessive comp. disorder along with anxiety?(missbliss53@...

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Hi ; My son is 10, As., and

O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if

one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been

much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and

asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this

regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription

for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid

at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good

luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so

slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As

he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to

one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the

Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions,

I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

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I think my son and hubbie have AS with *possibly* a mildorm of OCD.

For example my son keeps his room spotless. Everything is organized and he prefers family and visitors not to play with his things. However he can function around this. I know a child that can not function with her OCD. She will only wear clothes from the right side of her closet. She can go out to play with friends until her room is "just so". Examples like that and hand washing make me think my families OCD is mild and possibly helpful if channeled properly...

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

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Does anyone here have a child who has asperger's also have obsessive comp. disorder along with anxiety?(missbliss53@...

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HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi Mari,

I have also read that book and found it very interesting aswell as educational because the AS boy who wrote it totally understands his AS and puts 'it' into his own words.

I also think he is an inspiration to us all.

Luv Sue

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HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

Katy

I was wondering how your appointment went today. hope all is fine.

Luv Sue x

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HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue was literally just mailing you , you thoughtful person you!!! Well everything went fine, because Louis now see's a pychiatrist she does not feel she can do much more and was happy not to see him again, but I have been down that road before and when you do need help you have to be bloody refferred again (excuse me) so I asked that Louis stays on her list so she agreed to see him in another 2 years. I agreed to that, with our national health service beggars can't be choosers!! Then cutting a long story short I had to take Louis to an emergency dentist as an absese has come up on his gum. He would not let the dentist anywhere near him and was begging me nearly hysterical to let him go home. I was in a right state. anyway the dentist was really good with him and we have reluctantly come to the decision that he will have to have the offending tooth out in the local hospital which means he will have to go under!! I know you are having an appointment tommorrow, I really hope you get a diagnosis soon then you should get the help that you need. Did you say if your son was statemented or not ? I can't remember. Also what are the school like? I was nearly in tears when you said that your son came home saying that he had made a friend. Aspergers can be such a lonely condition, they so want to be liked and don't know how to make it happen. My son usually uses a good pull of the hair to greet his friends. Anyway good luck tommorrow my nearly Geordie friend and I will mail you tommorrow night

Katy the southerner!!!xx

IAN SULLIVAN wrote:

Katy

I was wondering how your appointment went today. hope all is fine.

Luv Sue x

RE: (no subject)

HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

My daughter was first diagnosed as OCD. We first heard about AS from a friend that my wife works with. Her husband is associated with the autism group at Marshall University. After several doctors and many diagnosis's we finally found something that described her completely. She is absolutely obsessive compulsive. I assumed this was a part of AS. We are scheduling an appointment in Pittsburgh for some inpatient testing. Kaitlyn has such good communication skills she often fools the professionals. She has all of the "typical" signs. Things such as repetitive motions, extremely high pain tolerance, facial ticks, unsteady or funny gait, Her biggest problem is the anxiety she suffers from. The anxiety seems to take control of her. Since the 911 towers attack she has struggled with the terrorism problem. her fear of throwing up has caused her disabling and prevents her from going out in public. She has shown so much intelligence that it is frustrating to see it wasted. She obsesses with the current fear or fear of the month as we call it. I have often wondered if the AS causes the OCD or if the OCD magnifies the AS...

Mike

-----Original Message-----From: missbliss53@... Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 12:18 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: (no subject)Does anyone here have a child who has asperger's also have obsessive comp. disorder along with anxiety?(missbliss53@...

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Hi Katy,

It's always really good to hear from you!

I am hoping to get a statement today from the ed psych so we'll see how it goes.

I hope Louis is ok after yesterdays trauma and that you are alright too of course.

Whenever someone tries to talk to my son he appears to blank them and turn away so people think he's ignoring them so we are trying to teach at the moment about eye contact to see if that helps the friend situation but he's not always receptive to new ideas!

I was wondering if anyone has a child who is totally different at school than at home because teachers have no tantrums or rages from him at all while in school and find it hard to believe what i tell them sometimes. I read somewhere that some AS kids use up all thier concentration at being 'good' at school so when they are in thier 'safe zone' i.e home, it all comes out.

I've just had some lino fitted in the bathroom to try to make it easier cleaning up the wee as the carpet stunk no matter what i did with it.

I was also wondering if anyone elses kids were really distructive. Adam doesn't look after anything and everything he touches seems to get broken.

Anyway i'll let you know what happens today and hope to hear from you soon

Luv Suexx

RE: (no subject)

HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

This is EXACTLY the way our daughter has always been! She has been very shy and quiet as a mouse (doesn't want ANY attention) at school through the years (she's 14), but at home she was the opposite. People found it hard to believe that we had such trouble with her at home. Can you say Dr Jekyl and Mr. Hyde? I too believe it's the "safety" of home where all pent up emotion can be released. Aren't we lucky?

She also is destructive...she's carved words in my coffee tables, picked off wallpaper in my bathroom, writes on her bedroom walls, etc. Doesn't mean to be, but she is.....I've sort of let her have her way with her room. It used to be a nice hardwood floor but it isn't anymore. Oh well.

Mari

-----Original Message-----From: IAN SULLIVAN Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 4:47 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: (no subject)

Whenever someone tries to talk to my son he appears to blank them and turn away so people think he's ignoring them so we are trying to teach at the moment about eye contact to see if that helps the friend situation but he's not always receptive to new ideas!

I was wondering if anyone has a child who is totally different at school than at home because teachers have no tantrums or rages from him at all while in school and find it hard to believe what i tell them sometimes. I read somewhere that some AS kids use up all thier concentration at being 'good' at school so when they are in thier 'safe zone' i.e home, it all comes out.

I was also wondering if anyone elses kids were really distructive. Adam doesn't look after anything and everything he touches seems to get broken.

[Guest guest]

Hi

Firstly let me warn you that this is some seriously frustrated and annoyed mother typinr here!

I've just been to see the ed psych who has totally dismmissed everything i said to him about Adam.

He said that because my son now goes to a skatepark with his dad and brother then he can't possibly on the autistic spectrum! amongst other things. I am absolutley livid because no-one believes me that my son has a problem. The 1st psych said i was an ameature psychologist and now this one has totally dismissed everything. I know we have a problem he is just not like other kids and i get the feeling that no-one understands AS unless you live with it in 1 form or another. I didn't know if i wanted to cry os scream so i did both! Has anyone else had probs with diagnosis cause i feel like i'm banging my head against a brick wall, no-one will belive me and i have no support at all apart from you guys and every time i read my mail i so know what you all mean.

Need some words of support and wisdom please.

HELLLLLLLLLPPPPPPP

Luv Suexxx

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Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:29 PM

Subject: Re: (no subject)

Hi Sue was literally just mailing you , you thoughtful person you!!! Well everything went fine, because Louis now see's a pychiatrist she does not feel she can do much more and was happy not to see him again, but I have been down that road before and when you do need help you have to be bloody refferred again (excuse me) so I asked that Louis stays on her list so she agreed to see him in another 2 years. I agreed to that, with our national health service beggars can't be choosers!! Then cutting a long story short I had to take Louis to an emergency dentist as an absese has come up on his gum. He would not let the dentist anywhere near him and was begging me nearly hysterical to let him go home. I was in a right state. anyway the dentist was really good with him and we have reluctantly come to the decision that he will have to have the offending tooth out in the local hospital which means he will have to go under!! I know you are having an appointment tommorrow, I really hope you get a diagnosis soon then you should get the help that you need. Did you say if your son was statemented or not ? I can't remember. Also what are the school like? I was nearly in tears when you said that your son came home saying that he had made a friend. Aspergers can be such a lonely condition, they so want to be liked and don't know how to make it happen. My son usually uses a good pull of the hair to greet his friends. Anyway good luck tommorrow my nearly Geordie friend and I will mail you tommorrow night

Katy the southerner!!!xx

IAN SULLIVAN wrote:

Katy

I was wondering how your appointment went today. hope all is fine.

Luv Sue x

RE: (no subject)

HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

I spent 13 grand and two years and got NOTHING but debt and stress!

It was the hardest time of my life. Even though my Husband is a walking advertsiement for Aspergers

ssssssscccrrrreeeeeeeeeeaaaaaammmmmm

ok scream with me

Now that hes in public school they can see some of it. I will know in 45 days if they will be to put asperges down on the paper. Though we all already call it that.

I know a lady whos son is 20. Guess when he was diagnosed? At 18!!!!!!!!

This is where I plan to help people in the future! How I dont know?

But this not diagnosing business has hurt too many familys!

Im sure you have read all the stories already of parents whos concerns were dismissed for years...

The only thing I can think of is to try another place or Dr.

At the Oasis they are supposed to have a list of Drs for each state of Drs who actually know about Aspergers. Be careful. Lots of Drs CLAIM they know about AS yet they will prove in 5 minutes that they are NEW to it. I will go over there now and look for my state. If I can find thre link I will share it with you and you can look up your state.

My dream for the future is that AS kids will get proper diag, or....... they get a temporary diag relating to borderline as so they can qualify for Becket stuff like that.......

There was no reason that my son had to go all those years with no help. He had all the symptoms. Since he didnt meet the full autism criteria he received nothing.This has to change. Anybody want to help me change this! LOL

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

RE: (no subject)

HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

Deep breath Sue. I would personally like to know what a skatepark has to do with the price of tea in China. Do you have an Autsim chapter near you? If you do call them and tell them you feel your child might be Autistic (don't say AS to start), ask if he can be evaled.

I wish I could help more, I am in a bad situation myself. We have a dx but our school does not recognize it. You are the parent you know your child do not give up!

>From: "IAN SULLIVAN"

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>Subject: Re: (no subject) >Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2003 14:26:01 -0000 > >Hi >Firstly let me warn you that this is some seriously frustrated and annoyed mother typinr here! >I've just been to see the ed psych who has totally dismmissed everything i said to him about Adam. >He said that because my son now goes to a skatepark with his dad and brother then he can't possibly on the autistic spectrum! amongst other things. I am absolutley livid because no-one believes me that my son has a problem. The 1st psych said i was an ameature psychologist and now this one has totally dismissed everything. I know we have a problem he is just not like other kids and i get the feeling that no-one understands AS unless you live with it in 1 form or another. I didn't know if i wanted to cry os scream so i did both! Has anyone else had probs with diagnosis cause i feel like i'm banging my head against a brick wall, no-one will belive me and i have no support at all apart from you guys and every time i read my mail i so know what you all mean. >Need some words of support and wisdom please. >HELLLLLLLLLPPPPPPP >Luv Suexxx > To: autism-aspergers > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 10:29 PM > Subject: Re: (no subject) > > > Hi Sue was literally just mailing you , you thoughtful person you!!! Well everything went fine, because Louis now see's a pychiatrist she does not feel she can do much more and was happy not to see him again, but I have been down that road before and when you do need help you have to be bloody refferred again (excuse me) so I asked that Louis stays on her list so she agreed to see him in another 2 years. I agreed to that, with our national health service beggars can't be choosers!! Then cutting a long story short I had to take Louis to an emergency dentist as an absese has come up on his gum. He would not let the dentist anywhere near him and was begging me nearly hysterical to let him go home. I was in a right state. anyway the dentist was really good with him and we have reluctantly come to the decision that he will have to have the offending tooth out in the local hospital which means he will have to go under!! I know you are having an appointment tommorrow, I really hope you get a diagnosis soon then you should get the help that you need. Did you say if your son was statemented or not ? I can't remember. Also what are the school like? I was nearly in tears when you said that your son came home saying that he had made a friend. Aspergers can be such a lonely condition, they so want to be liked and don't know how to make it happen. My son usually uses a good pull of the hair to greet his friends. Anyway good luck tommorrow my nearly Geordie friend and I will mail you tommorrow night > > Katy the southerner!!!xx > > > > IAN SULLIVAN wrote: > > Katy > I was wondering how your appointment went today. hope all is fine. > Luv Sue x > RE: (no subject) > > > Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? 's O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can't decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer..Gail > > > >

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Thanks melissa

It means so much to me that you are all there at the end of a keyboard i am now in tears because you are all so kind.

What is an autistic chapter. we are in the uk btw.

I honestly think no-one round here knows anything about AS but i'm hoping to find a local support group.

Luv Suexx

RE: (no subject) > > > Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? 's O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can't decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer..Gail > > > >

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I belive that this doctor is inept, incompetent and rude and should be FIRED from your employ. Maybe you could call the local NAMI chapter office and ask who they would recommend for your son who you believe is Aspergers. I bet they will have a list of names for you. That's how I found my boys psychiatrist and she is absolutely fantastic and supportive. She listens to my husband and I and she also listens to the kids perspectives. I wish you great success in finding the perfect doctor for you and your son.

heather

RE: (no subject)

HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

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Sue,

Don't give up, you know your child better than anyone and that is what counts. People just don't understand that just because you can't see it on the outside doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Is there a local support group in the area? I went to one here before my dd was diagnosed and asked the parents there, who they recommend I bring her to. My mother wasn't all that supportive at first in believing the problems my daughter has. It wasn't until she spoke with her sister (who is a teacher) that she began to open her eyes. Since Tolya taught herself the ABC's and numbers before she was 2 my aunt opened my mom's eyes and said before age 2 you simply don't learn these things. Kids at that age don't have the desire or the attention span even if you sit and drill them (which we never did!) This got the ball rolling an dmy mother took my concerns a little more seriously after that but it wasn't until the offical diagnosis that it really sunk in.

But, I would go that route, go to a meeting and get the input from a bunch of parents to see where would be the best place to take your child. When I went I explained that I suspected AS and as I listed her symptoms they were all nodding their heads. After the meeting several moms came to me and told me where to go.

Let me know how things go.

Good Luck,

Angie

RE: (no subject)

HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

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I have a friend who just changed to that. Shes so happy! She also gone down two dress sizes practically over night!

Shes feeling really well. Shes worried its mania but hopes its *normal*...

Anyway sounds like a good med to me!

´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- Michele E -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´*

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Hi Angie and

Thank you both for your support. I KNOW my son has a problem and AS fits he doesn't have all the traits but the autistic spectrum is so wide it's not like tonsilitis or a broken arm.

I believe it is up to us as parents to be our childrens voices in these circumstances because they can't do it for themselves, and i will not give up on my son, i'm determind to get the help he needs to cope with life!!

I just want some-one to listen to me and believe what i am saying but the problem today was that the teachers dont have any tantrums or other behavioural problems with him, boy is he different at home!!

Luv Sue

RE: (no subject)

HI Gail and all...

Seems like "home" makes things so much better for our kids. It's safe there. They can relax...at least, as much as possible. I was worried about the social interaction though for my daughter (home schooling really wasn't an option for me anyway). It's the social thing she has trouble with...she's 14 btw....and I want her to be able to grow and develop as much as she's able to as far as getting along with people, so she can possibly get a job when she gets older and be able to cope with PEOPLE. There are other ways of getting that social input when you home school I know.

Beth bites her tongue when she's stressed...makes it bleed. I think she also has that high pain tolerance we talk about here.

I'm reading a book now that is really good...for parents of AS teens, especially. It's called "Freaks, Geeks, and Asperger Syndrome." It's a strange title, but it's written by a 13 year AS boy! It's very enlightening. I'm about halfway through it and would recommend it for a look "inside" the mind of a typical AS kid.

Gotta run,

mari

-----Original Message-----From: Gail Africa Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 5:38 AMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi ; My son is 10, As., and O.C.D. with anxiety issues. Did you have a question, or were you wondering if one of us had the same issues as yours? ’s O.C.D. issues have been much better than last year when he was running to the sink, washing his hands, and asking if everything was poison. Sept. 11 really put him over the edge in this regard. He takes an SSRI, Celexa, 20 mg. which has helped. He has a prescription for Seroquel, low dose which I have not given him yet. He is a fairly calm kid at home and can’t decide about the Seroquel, I know some have had good luck with it. He was prescribed the Seroquel for a slight tic that is not so slight if he is stressed, he licks his lips and ends up with terrible sores. As he has been Home Schooled for a month now his lips are clear and we are down to one small sore by his nose. Therefore, I am still trying to decide about the Seroquel as he is anxious, but not severely. How old is your child? Ask any questions, I know someone would be glad to answer.…Gail

[Guest guest]

Hi ...no i don't know anything about Stratetta....but i have some news.........my son just came home from work today after taking one dose of Abilify...................he said he vomitted at work and is so dizzy.............he does also cut his arm at work cause of the dizziness and does not recall how he cut it..he said he was so out of it..it is quite a cut, so now we are off to the emergency room to get a tetnus shot ....he is sleeping now, and i am dreading telling him we have to go there cause he will be so upset................so no more Abilify and i was really hoping it would work out.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, , for sharing about your son. It's very encouraging to hear others who have grown asperger kids...and to hear that things are going pretty well for them!

Mari

Chicagoland

-----Original Message-----From: missbliss53@... Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 11:14 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject: (no subject)Hi- I am glad u liked the poem i sent.........Our son, Danny is 20 years old and has Asperger's Syndrome, Anxiety Disorder and Ocd. He did graduate from high school......he is quite high functioning, but is very repetitive and gets on a certain subject and stays on it for years....he doesn't like change of any kind!!!! He gets very upset when he doesn't get his own way and is very demanding and manipulative. He wants to be on the go all the time and is not happy if he is not and throws a fit..He does work a part time job out in the community and is still living at home. Some days, all it is is argue, argue with him, so it can be very exhausting. Danny is the youngest of three, and has an older brother who also lives at home and an older sister who is married. He wants to be so much like them.....very independent. Thank God for the respite care program we have in our home town.........he goes there about once a month and it gives u a break and him a break and a chance to interact with others like him and even more severe.......it is a wonderful program...Danny's medications are Eskalith, Gabitrol, and Celexa. He used to be on Risperdal, but after gaining an excessive amount of weight.......he had to go off of it, which made a huge difference for the worse. We tried the new drug Abilify, and he had such a bad reaction from it...........that we had to stop that.....We have a behavioral spec. that comes to our home and works with us weekly and he has a behavioral program which he follows daily, and of course does not like it.....it is where he gets points for certain things and then is rewarded after so many points. If u have anymore, questions, i would be glad to answer them.....thanks and hope u all have a great week and look for ward to hearing from u...

[Guest guest]

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I personally take this medication -- I have a chemical imbalance that has been ongoing since the death of my son. Not sure how it will work with your son but. . .

Frances

(no subject)

Hello to all.....our son has been on Celexa among other medications and today, his physician is taking him off it and replacing it with Effexor.............has anyone had any experience with this medication..?......Thanks

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She is on some of my other groups,,,she doesn't post as often as she

used to. I love to read about her daily life with her kids

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> 294. Deana Montoro

> 295.

> 296. Mark

> 297. Grace Kieley

> 298. Becky Gatti

> 299. Carolyn Showers

> 300. Hatton

> 301. TRACY ANGELO

> 302. KURT AN GELO

> 303. June Authier

> 304. Robin Authier

> 305. sarah frey

> 306. Kathy Breneman

> 307. Breneman

> 308. Breneman

> 309. Jim Cascio

> 310. Kim Cascio

> 311. Kate Wolgemuth

> 312. Stefanie Heagy

> 313. Ginger Heagy

> 314. Barry Heagy

> 315. Graham Heagy

> 316. Gabe Heagy

> 317. Heagy

> 318. Heagy

> 319. Liisa Heagy

> 320. Heagy

> 321. le Gehman

> 322. Bechtel

> 323. Vascellaro

> 324. a Vascellaro

> 325. Blount

> 326. Blount

> 327. Blount

> 328. Ruth Blount

> 329. Nolan Blount

> 330. Blount

> 331. Warner

> 332. Paige Warner

> 333. Dang Warner

> 334. Mark Costrello

> 335. Janna Yacks

> 336. Amy Brunner Aka Mr.P!nK (lol mis and nicky)

> 337. Skye Ruf

> 338. Deanna LaMasster(CABBAGEPRETZLE!!!)

> 339.

> 340.

> 341. Tim Longenecker

> 342. Joan

> 343. Watkins

> 344. Gail A'Brunzo

> 345. Lindsey A'Brunzo and Steve Harding--

> 346. Destiny Sommer

> 347. Meredith McMurtrie

> 348. Lynne (Eckman) Henry

> 349. Christy Knight

> 350. Kimyia Varzi

> 351. Patti Kim

> 352. Kathy Chu

> 353. Emma Otsuji

> 354. K. Estradathis i

> 355. Brent A. Osorio

> 356. Ana J Alatorre

> 357. Osorio

> 358. Becky Pfeifer

> 359. Alizabeth Pfeifer

> 360. Raeanne Pfeifer

> 361. Theresa Pfeifer

> 362. D. Pfeifer

> 363. Carol Pfeifer

> 364. H.Pfeifer

> 366. Quyen Pfeifer

> 367. Asia Pfeifer

> 368. Zion Pfeifer

> 369. Tom Pfeifer

> 370. Jolene Kostenbader,cm

> 371. Kostenbader,cm

> 372. Bela Gecsey, Costa Mesa, Ca

> 373. Gecsey, Costa Mesa, Ca

> 374. Kahn

> 375. Mark Kahn

> 376. Tina Garrett

> 378. Adam Garrett/ Fire Fighter/Paramedic Belton, MO_

> Ran a call 4/28, Drunk driver head on collision on 71

> Hwy,

> onville Mo. Killed one, critically injured 5

> flown to

> Children's Mercy. Please sign and forward.

> 379. Victor L. , Collierville, TN.

> 380. R. , Collierville, TN.

> 381. .Memphis,Tn

> 382.Buddy , Memphis,Tn

> 383. Kelley Frans Memphis,Tn.

> 384. Tammie Dawson, Memphis, Tn.

> 385. Dale Dawson, Memphis, Tn.

> 386. J.T. Norris, Memphis, TN

> 387. Brown

> 388. Kathy Garazin, IL

> 389. Rae Hackett, IL

> 390. Crane, Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.

> 391. Jodie Goodman, Margate, FL

> 392. Marc Goodman, Margate, FL

> 393. Goodman, Margate, FL

> 394. Goodman, Margate, FL

> 395. Dorothy Gerson, Lauderhill, FL

> 396. ine Dukoff, Lauderhill, FL

> 397. Carr, Florida

> 398. Sam Carr, Florida

> 399. Bob Jeshiva, Florida

> 400. Woods, Staten Island, NY

> 401. Molski , Staten Island NY

> 402. Elaine Parks, Nesconset, NY

> 403. Helen , Commack, NY

> 404. Patty Chow, Garden City, New York

> 405. Kong

> 406. Yaung-Moon Cho

> 407. Elsa Yau

> 408. Gros zouzone

> 409. Kalia

> 410. -Reid, Quincy, MA

> 411. Shandro -Scarlett

> 412. Tammy Lee

> 413. Caroline Lee

> 414. Jung

> 415. Lynette Mason

> 416. Kerry McDermott - Massachusetts

> 417. Marina

> 418. Kim s

> 419. Elways

> 420. Beth

> 421.

> 422. Dumais

> 423. Joanne & Dave

> 424. Laurie & Ken Comtois

> 425. Debbie Stanewicz

> 426. Jim ST.t

> 427. Lea St. t

> 428. Deb Marvin

> 429. Mike Marvin

> 430. Haywood

> 431. Gi Dembrowski

> 432. Cheryl Schedin

> 433. Kim Silacci

> 434. Wernher-

> 435. Amy Sawyer Fisher

> 436. Debra L. Nunan

> 437. Warren

> 438. Rochlin-Sakol

> 439. Fields

> 440. Jeff Diacik

> 441. Charlie Kuronya

> 442. Fran Seserko

> 443. Ron Drumheller

> 444. Nikki Anderlonis

> 445. Pilcicki

> 446. Baker

> 447. Maxine Rickabaugh

> 448. Marie Rissell

> 449. Cazille It might seem ironic, but if it

> does some

> good, then it's worthwhile.

> 450. Sharon Buddendorf

> 451. Arlene McCarthy

> 452. Bucholski

> 453. Diane Riddick

> 454. Nannaette

> 455. Eugenia Ralston

> 456. Diane Doyle

> 457. Kathy DiStefano

> 458. Romeo

> 459. Gimbal, PA - In loving memory of

> Amos

> and McGinn

> 460. Carole Ellerkamp, Oreland, PA

> 461. Gardner

> 462. Ott

> 463. Ott

> 464. Rita Ferry

> 465. Jen Siravo

> 466. Gabert

> 467. Dan Kutscher!

> 468. Lax

> 469. S

> 470. Sherin T.

> 471. Aswathy T.

> 478. Tiffanie Kung

> 479. Steve Kung

> 480. Clara Kung

> 481. Kristi Lim

> 482. Gillian yap

> 483. Tara Klapstein

> 484. Rosser

> 485. Wanitta Ranson-Alberta, Canada. Lost friend due

> to impaired

> driving

> 486. le Mohr, Alberta, Canada

> 487.. Tamara Coli, Alberta Canada.

> 488. Gord & marlene villumsen

> 489. Janssen, Alberta Canada

> 490. Yashchyshyn

> 491. Mark Yashchyshyn

> 492. McLaren

> 493. Darcy McLaren

> 494. Bouk

> 495. Schatz - might think twice now

> 496. Wick

> 497. Amber Ruzycki - Lamont Alberta Canada

> 498. Josh Melnyk - Lamont, Alberta,Canada

> 499. Gordon Dan ylchuk- Leduc, AB

> 500. Tim Usher-Moose Jaw, SK

> 501. Ian Parsons - Moose Jaw, SK

> 502. Meginbir - Calgary, AB

> 503. Sonja Redeker

> 504. Redeker (Mom) - Invermere, BC

> 505. Hecher (mother) Radium Hot Springs, BC

> 506. Jansen, Invermere BC

> 507. Wilf Akerlund, Kelowna BC

> 508. bev Akerlund, Kelowna BC

> 509. Alice Cristofoli, Trail, BC

> 510. Ivana , Trail BC

> 511. Selma Nutini, Trail, B.C.

> 512. Lori Cachia, ers, BC

> 513. Cat hy Higginson, ers, BC

> 514. Kari Stone, ers BC

> 515. ** Schneider, ers BC

> 516. *! * , Ontario

> 517. T. Gamble, Canada

> 518. Janna Lee, BC, Canada

> 519. Lee, BC, Canada

> 520. Pister, BC Canada

> 521. Lesley L, BC Canada

> 522. Pierre C, Qc Canada

> 523. H, Ont Canada

> 524. Carey H, Ont Canada

> 525. H, Ont Canada

> 526. A, Ont Canada

> 527. Breanne Tucker, Alberta Canada

> 528. Donna Tucker, Alberta Canada

> 529. Harvey Tucker, Alberta Canada

> 530. Birkholz, Alberta Canada

> 531. Dennis Birkholz, Alberta Canada

> 532. Lucie Birkholz, Alberta Canada

> 533. Birkholz, Alberta Canada

> 534. Ashton ston, Alberta Canada

> 535. Ed fowicz, Alberta Canada

> 536. Mark Berry, WA Australia

> 537. Strand, Alberta Canada

> 538. Strand,Spruce Grove,AB,Canada

> 539. Cherlyn Forth, Red Deer, Alberta, Canada

> 540. Herman, Calga ry, Alberta, Canada

> 541. Robin Swinton, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

> 542. Kim Melanson

> 543. Charmaine Therrien, Gatineau, Qc, Canada I lost 2

> friends to

> drunk drivers, please keep this going.

> 544. Bellefeuille

> 545. Stéphane Lance

> 546. Stéphanie Pearce

> 547. Devlen Pearce-Lance

> 548. andra Pearce-Lance

> 549. Pearce-Lance

> 550. Cameron Pearce-Lance

> 551. Noah Pearce-Lance

> 552. Lance

> 553. Hélène Lance

> 554 Wayne Hendsbee

> 555.a Trueman

> 556.Dave Trueman

> 557. Tony Kavanagh Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

> 558. Laberge Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

> 559. Diane Saumur Perth Ontario, Canada

> 560. Barb Pennington Orleans, Ontario, Canada

> 561. Fortin, Arnprior, Ontario, Canada

> 562. Lucille Fortin, Orleans, Ontario, Canada

> 563. Delilah McArthur, Ontario, Canada - in memory of

> my mother

> Germaine who left 5 orphans behind because of a drunk

> driver.

> 564. Joanne Roy

> 565. Con nie Beattie

> 566. Helen Brownlee

> 567. Aline Garneau

> 568. Michel Garneau

> 569. Anne Gagnon, Sudbury, Ontario, Canada...In memory

> of my

> cousins Sylvie and Michel, killed in a car accident

> due to

> drinking and driving

> 570. Bionda, Huntsville, ON

> 571. Katy , Huntsville, ON

> 572.Kim Hammond, Bracebridge, ON

> 573.shirley bath, bayfield, Ont. Canada

> 574. Sheelagh .Sarnia ONT.

> 576. , Corunna, Ont. Canada

> 577. Gerard Charbonneau, St. Albert, AB

> 578. Mike & Bonnie Oakley, St. Albert AB

> 579. Tobi Barton, St. Albert AB

> 580. Les Barton, St. Albert AB

> 581. Donna Romanuik, Edm. AB

> 582. Tracey Gray, Edmonton, AB

> 583. Billie Jo Spence, Edmonton, AB

> 584. Geoffrey Spence, Edmonton, AB

> 585. Mike Spence

> 587. Dana Dudar

> 588. Dyck

> 589. Glen Bergeron

> 590. Roxanne Persowich CANADA-in memory of my beloved

> friend, (Nelly).

> 591. McCull ough

> 592. Mike McCullough

> 593. Clayton Burnett

> 594. Glen Medwid

> 595. Kat Choquette

> 596. Craig

> 597. Len. Jerrard

> 598. Alana Gow

> 599. Hellens

> 600. Nisa Hellens

> 601. Charlotte Hellens

> 602. Hellens

> 603. Allansson

> 604. Allansson

> 605. Ron Baldwin

> 606. Marie Broadstock-Ontario, Canada

> 607. Carol Pembry, Ontario

> 608. Noreen Haner, Ontario

> 609. Helen Ma, Ontario

> 610. Josie Godfrey Ontario

> 611. Lyse Ballaro, Ontario

> 612. Diane Wolak, Ontario

> 613. Wolak, Barrie Ont.

> 614. & Marle ne MacPherson, Barrie Ont.

> 615. Ed & Kathy Hansen, Barrie Ont.

> 616. Chuck Hansen, Newmarket, Ontario

> 617. Hansen, Newmarket, Onatio

> 618. Doug Magee Toronto, Ontario

> 619. Judi Magee , Toronto, Ontario

> 620. Kaitlyn Magee toronto, Ontario

> 621. Magee, Toronto, Ontario

> 622. Harry Hazan, Toronto Ontario

> 623. Hazan, Toronto, Ontario

> 624. Aleah Hazan, Toronto, Ontario

> 625. Harvey Hazan, Toronto Ontario

> 626. Judy Rasky, Toronto Ontario

> 627. Alan Greenberg, Toronto Ontario

> 628. Tward, Toronto,

> 629. Renée Unger (Renée The Gourmet)

> 630. Alysse Unger Luepann

> 631. LuePann

> 632. Parkinson

> 633. Silva, Trenton, ON

> 634. Cristina Barillari, Toronto, ON

> 635. Santina Fantetti, Toronto, ON

> 636. Dina Medeiros Ferreira, Toronto ON

> 637. Eng, North York, On

> 638. Cheryl Lee Vancouver, B.C.

> 639. Kan, Vancouver, BC

> 640. Jaina Eviston, Vancouver, BC

> 641. Bosa, Burnaby, B.C., in memory of

> Nouwens

> 642. Suzanne Eviston, Snohomish, Wa

> 643. Bobby Everett Wa.

> 644. Christena Everett Wa.

> 645. Danny C. (Evretett, Wa.)

> 646. Pamela K. (Everett, Wa.)

> 647. Lois F. (Lake Havasu City, Az.)

> 648. E. Yoder (Lake Havasu City, Az.)

> 649. Bev Bellm (Ava,MO)

> 650. Sharon ( Davenport,IA)

> 651. Lea Ann Schneider (Davenport, IA)

> 652. Terri (Rock Island, IL)

> 653. Loretta Mathias (Cleveland, IL)

> 654. Amy Mathias (West Burlington, IA)

> 655. Dave Mathias (West Burlington, IA)

> 656.Trudy Ralston (East Moline, IL)

> 657. Ralston (New Lenox, IL)

> 658.lie Baughn-Butkus ( Kansas City, Mo)

> 659. Parka Baughn (Kansas CIty, MO)

> 660. BEN MORROW FIREFIGHTER/EMT LEE'S SUMMIT, MISSOURI

> WORKED NUMEROUS

> DRUNKEN DRIVING ACCIDENTS IN WHICH MORE THAN I EVER

> CARED TO REMEMBER

> HAVE DIED PASS THIS ON!!!!!!

> 661. (Bonner Springs, KS)

> 662. Gordon (Lawrence, Kansas)

> 663 <THORN>

> 664. (lawrence, ks)

> 665. Hawkins

> 666. Hults (Kansas City, Mo 667. Farley

> Louisville Ky

> 668. Cheyenne Farley Louisville,ky

> 669. ph M. Montgomery (Louisville KY)

> 670. Lynn M. Montgomery (Louisville KY)

> 671. Lynn (Jeffersonville, Indiana)

> 672. belle (Oak Hills, CA.)

> 673. Jack (Oak Hills, CA.)

> 674. Gini Fruge (TX)

> [Lejeune, C (Iota, LA)

> 676. Stefani Celio

> 677. D. Reynolds

> 678. L. Whited

> 679. J. Whited

> 680. Martialia Files

> 681. Jana Millard (God Bless)

> 682. Lindsey Millard

> 683. Jenn Laflamme

> 684. Chelsea Laflamme

> 685. Laroche

> 686. Pat Laroche

> 687. McBride

> 688. Kast-McBride - lost a friend to drunk driving - he was

the driver

>

> 689. McBride

> 690. Kast

> 691. Mike Savory (AWAK[e]A_dvocacy)

692. Tonya Roesch

[Guest guest]

According to the Urban Legends site

(http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/petition/drunk.htm), this is false. In

fact, it's actually causing harm:

" Unfortunately, no matter how well-intentioned, this petition is

actually having a negative

impact because people who don't know what to do with it are bombarding MADD

(Mothers Against Drunk Driving) with it, clogging their e-mail and

taking up the time of

staff members who now have to spend time responding to it rather than

helping drunk

driving victims. People who truly want to help should visit MADD's

Activism page instead. "

If there's anything that makes me crazy, it's people who prey on the

good hearts of people like you. And that's what this is about, this

" petition. " You have a good heart, you obviously care, and you were

taken advantage of by whoever started this MADD hoax....back in 2000.

I keep the Urban Legends site on my Netscape Navigator toolbar, just so

I can check things like this before I send them on.

Annie, who loves ya annie@...

--

" Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already

tomorrow in Australia. " Schultz

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 3/14/04 7:29:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, Tangerineburton writes:

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had experience with a STI with a low CD4 nadir. The reason for the desire to do this is increasing lipoatrophy, despite being on a regime meant to be good for that (3TC/nevirapine/tenfovir). Originally developed lipo on Zerit/3TC/Viracept...changed to nevirapine/combivir...changed again to current combo due to nausea from combivir. Or does anyone know of a good regime without NRTI?

Vergel

www.powerusa.org

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone had experience with a STI with a low CD4 nadir. The reason for the desire to do this is increasing lipoatrophy, despite being on a regime meant to be good for that (3TC/nevirapine/tenfovir). Originally developed lipo on Zerit/3TC/Viracept...changed to nevirapine/combivir...changed again to current combo due to nausea from combivir. Or does anyone know of a good regime without NRTI?