Guest guest Posted July 2, 2011 Report Share Posted July 2, 2011 I'm curious why it matters for treating vaginal dryness? I don't know her level of breastfeeding. > > > Thanks all for the suggestions! I will pass on the Vit E and other nutritional suggestions. > > > > My first suggestion was using alternate dry days, but apparently, her Dr. recommended using a vaginal lubrication on a daily basis, and not just for intercourse. > > > > In terms of breastfeeding, our method recommends charting regardless of the breastfeeding pattern once the woman is past 12 weeks postpartum. 5 months is pretty close to the time when baby’s sleeping/eating habits change anyway. > > > > > > > > > > > > LAUREN FULLER †" NFP COORDINATOR, NORTHWEST FAMILY SERVICES. > > > > (w)| (f)| lfuller@... > > > > <image001.jpg> > > > > Equipping people with vital skills for a lifetime > > > > > > > > www.nwfs.org • www.talktothem.org • www.itslegit.org • www.lastingrelationships.org > > > > Like us on Facebook! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2011 Report Share Posted July 5, 2011 Dr. Pedulla, The email discussion had already addressed a lot of the questions you already asked as to whether or not the dryness was constantly uncomfortable or not. I am aware that breastfeeding suppresses hormone activity and that it can result in a dry mucus pattern, but I see it just as often result in a pattern of “patches” of mucus, as well as a constant mucus pattern. I do agree that constant dryness indicates infertility, but the question was one of introducing a substance that might make true dryness difficult to discern. I received excellent suggestions for that, and my client was grateful to receive them. With respect, ecological breastfeeding IS on my radar screen. The organization I work for wholeheartedly supports and encourages breastfeeding, but we offer our own recommendations with regards to breastfeeding and fertility. There is a difference in agreement here in terms of effectiveness and philosophy, one that you and I have previously discussed, and I thought, agreed to disagree. I am personally grateful that there are a variety of NFP options available for couples today, with each one placing a focus in a different area. This can only be beneficial for couples who have various circumstances that may make one method more difficult to apply than another. I hope to contribute to the growing trend among NFP Providers to treat all methods with the respect they deserve, and to work towards unity and growth for the NFP movement in general. lauren fuller – NFP coordinator, Northwest family services. (w)| (f)| lfuller@...Equipping people with vital skills for a lifetime www.nwfs.org • www.talktothem.org • www.itslegit.org • www.lastingrelationships.org Like us on Facebook! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Dr. Pedulla, I will encourage and support mothers in any attempts they make to breastfeed, from the smallest to that of the ecological nature. I agree that ecological breastfeeding may be best for some, but I don't agree that ecological breastfeeding as defined by the 7 Standards, are best for every mom and baby. Having the baby sleeping in bed with mom is a great comfort and security to some, and for others it is a source of frustration and serious lack of sleep. So I will encourage those that wish to do so and find it beneficial, but I disagree that it is best for every mom and baby. > > thanks for the clarifying remarks, and I'm glad you seem to give EBF the attention it deserves. I think in the future we ought probably on this list and in our consultations with clients distinguish between ecological breastfeeding (EBF) as what's best for both mom and baby, and cultural breastfeeding (CBF) which means anything else. It need not be inherently pejorative or condemning, but is no less important than any other historical data a client gives us. > > > Don't you agree? > > > Sincerely yours, > > > Dominic M. Pedulla MD, FACC, CNFPMC, ABVM, ACPh > Interventional Cardiologist, Endovascular Diplomate, Varicose Vein Specialist, Noncontraceptive Family Planning Consultant, Family Planning Researcher > Medical Director, The Oklahoma Vein and Endovascular Center (www.noveinok.com, veininfo@...) > Executive Director, The Edith Stein Foundation (www.theedithsteinfoundation.com) > (office) > (cell) > (FAX) > pedullad@... > > > “Our fundamental purpose is not to go out and help the poor. For us, this has only been a means. Our purpose is to maintain the Catholic faith within us, and to allow its diffusion to others through the instrument of charity.†Blessed Frederic Ozanam, a 19th century founder of the Society of Saint De > > > > Re: vaginal dryness > > > > > > > Dr. Pedulla, > > The email discussion had already addressed a lot of the questions you already asked as to whether or not the dryness was constantly uncomfortable or not. I am aware that breastfeeding suppresses hormone activity and that it can result in a dry mucus pattern, but I see it just as often result in a pattern of “patches†of mucus, as well as a constant mucus pattern. I do agree that constant dryness indicates infertility, but the question was one of introducing a substance that might make true dryness difficult to discern. I received excellent suggestion s for that, and my client was grateful to receive them. > > With respect, ecological breastfeeding IS on my radar screen. The organization I work for wholeheartedly supports and encourages breastfeeding, but we offer our own recommendations with regards to breastfeeding and fertility. There is a difference in agreement here in terms of effectiveness and philosophy, one that you and I have previously discussed, and I thought, agreed to disagree. I am personally grateful that there are a variety of NFP options available for couples today, with each one placing a focus in a different area. This can only be beneficial for couples who have various circumstances that may make one method more difficult to apply than another. I hope to contribute to the growing trend among NFP Providers to treat all methods with the respect they deserve, and to work towards unity and growth for the NFP movement in general. > > > > LAUREN FULLER †" NFP coordinator, Northwest family services. > (w)| (f)| lfuller@... > > > > > Equipping people with vital skills fo r a lifetime > > www.nwfs.org • www.talktothem.org • www.itslegit.org • www.lastingrelationships.org > Like us on F acebook! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2011 Report Share Posted July 6, 2011 Dr. Pedulla, You pre-suppose that I think ecological breastfeeding is a moral norm that we must all adhere to. When I have seen no such bibical quotation or reference to the Catechism to believe so. And just because one priest wrote a book doesn't make it so. I did not say that cultural obstacles make it difficult for some women to ecologically breastfeed. There are differences in temperament, sleeping habits and behavior of both mom and baby that influence the outcome of cosleeping. When I have had a mom tell me that cosleeping made her so angry at night that she had to resist the impulse to strike her child... when I have had another mom who ecologically breastfed but got pregnant at 3 months postpartum, who then had 2 cosleeping babies and was too tired during the day to be able to effectively learn the NFP materials...when I know mothers who do not practice cosleeping who have loving, well-adjusted children with good sleep habits, I submit that there does not need to be a moral imperative to breastfeed in such a way. We have had this discussion before, and I do believe we are saying the same things again. It is frustrating for me to have to return to this topic, when I had simply asked a question about vaginal dryness. I hope that in the future, our differing views can be respected. > > > > thanks for the clarifying remarks, and I'm glad you seem to give EBF the attention it deserves. I think in the future we ought probably on this list and in our consultations with clients distinguish between ecological breastfeeding (EBF) as what's best for both mom and baby, and cultural breastfeeding (CBF) which means anything else. It need not be inherently pejorative or condemning, but is no less important than any other historical data a client gives us. > > > > > > Don't you agree? > > > > > > Sincerely yours, > > > > > > Dominic M. Pedulla MD, FACC, CNFPMC, ABVM, ACPh > > Interventional Cardiologist, Endovascular Diplomate, Varicose Vein Specialist, Noncontraceptive Family Planning Consultant, Family Planning Researcher > > Medical Director, The Oklahoma Vein and Endovascular Center (www.noveinok.com, veininfo@) > > Executive Director, The Edith Stein Foundation (www.theedithsteinfoundation.com) > > (office) > > (cell) > > (FAX) > > pedullad@ > > > > > >  " Our fundamental purpose is not to go out and help the poor. For us, this has only been a means. Our purpose is to maintain the Catholic faith within us, and to allow its diffusion to others through the instrument of charity.†Blessed Frederic Ozanam, a 19th century founder of the Society of Saint De > > > > > > > > Re: vaginal dryness > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dr. Pedulla, > > > > The email discussion had already addressed a lot of the questions you already asked as to whether or not the dryness was constantly uncomfortable or not. I am aware that breastfeeding suppresses hormone activity and that it can result in a dry mucus pattern, but I see it just as often result in a pattern of  " patches†of mucus, as well as a constant mucus pattern. I do agree that constant dryness indicates infertility, but the question was one of introducing a substance that might make true dryness difficult to discern. I received excellent suggestion s for that, and my client was grateful to receive them. > > > > With respect, ecological breastfeeding IS on my radar screen. The organization I work for wholeheartedly supports and encourages breastfeeding, but we offer our own recommendations with regards to breastfeeding and fertility. There is a difference in agreement here in terms of effectiveness and philosophy, one that you and I have previously discussed, and I thought, agreed to disagree. I am personally grateful that there are a variety of NFP options available for couples today, with each one placing a focus in a different area. This can only be beneficial for couples who have various circumstances that may make one method more difficult to apply than another. I hope to contribute to the growing trend among NFP Providers to treat all methods with the respect they deserve, and to work towards unity and growth for the NFP movement in general. > > > > > > > > LAUREN FULLER †" NFP coordinator, Northwest family services. > > (w)| (f)| lfuller@ > > > > > > > > > > Equipping people with vital skills fo r a lifetime > > > > www.nwfs.org • www.talktothem.org • www.itslegit.org • www.lastingrelationships.org > > Like us on F acebook! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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