Medical reasoning

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I am taking eplerenone now, but still wonder if the idea would benefit me now, or others who have to take spiro. LOOK FOR SOMEONE DOING SUCH A TRIAL AT nih.gov.not likely.I also am thinking about estrogen dominance and prostate cancer risk, that blocking T receptors cant be helping that risk any.This is one of the problems with medical reasoning. Unless it is tested you do not know if you will be better, worse or the same when taking a pill. Example: giving estrogens to men should lower heart attack rate. FINDING: increases risk of other problems no decrease risk in MI.Old VA study as I recall. Example: amiodirone is a good drug for irregular heart beats. So lets us it in PVCs etc. Result: increased death rates with A.If it cant hurt to take some progesterone, then I dont see why one would not try it. Maybe some of the natural progestrone cream (not synthetic dangerous stuff) rather than pills. Dont see how one can overdose that way.You bet your Life! But maybe you wont overdose.STay away from supplements and natrual remedies unless properly tested. There seems to be some doubt that blood tests really tell us what is happening hormonally as far a T and E levels. To many variable impacting the blood levels at any point in time. I register low T sometimes and then middle range other times. Since switching to eplerenone i have noticed a dramatic improvement in the gyno pain. Basically, the pain is completey gone. I would like to get rid of the "cans" now, but i am not interested in surgery to take care of it. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 242lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Inspra, 40meq Potassium, 1800mg Calcium, 1000mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammation (From Spiro)Other Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower Pole, Right Flank PainDASH: Started "sort of" DASHing 5/3/2011Status: Last Urine K/Na ratio was 1.1. But total of Na high alsoTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 8:18 AMSubject: Re: Progesterone for Men Might work but never been tried that I am aware of. I would recommend taking eplerenone and having Dr check spot urine Na and K to see if you have room to DASH better and try to lower dose of spior if you do not want to stop spior. Most will need to stop spiro Would taking progesterone help prevent/reverse gyno for men taking Spiro? I am been reading up on its use to balance out estrogen dominance and wondered if it might be useful for those of us dealing with Spiro induced gyno. My understanding is we get gyno becuase of the estrogen dominance cuased by blocking receptor sites for aldo/testosterone. From what i have also read, progesterone gets convered into Aldo. Since we are making aldo by the truck load in PA, is it possible that we become estrogen dominate by the fact we are low on progestrone. If i understand it right, progestrone blocks estrogen receptor sites to some degree. Anyway, curious what your thoughts are on this. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 242lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Inspra, 40meq Potassium, 1800mg Calcium, 1000mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammation (From Spiro)Other Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower Pole, Right Flank PainDASH: Started "sort of" DASHing 5/3/2011Status: Last Urine K/Na ratio was 1.1. But total of Na high also

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And there's great research out about TOO LOW a BP being harmful, too low an Ha1c being harmful, and something about too low cholesterol, or that caffeine doesn't actually worsen GERD, it's the heat that relaxes the sphincter (no not THAT sphincter!.....although I am sure heat relaxes that one too....), and and a new the low we aim for is too low and has bad outcomes thing I read the other day but can't recall exactly what it is.....it'll come to me. And sometimes we are such creatures of habit we won't change things just because.

I have always wondered how giving adrenaline could make a heart that's blown out due to a massive MI, or from clogged arteries, or from whatever reason, and has stopped, could be helped by all that epinepherine now forcing it to try to work harder than it was before it broke down (a cardiac arrest victim gets more of that than any other drug) and how that doesn't hurt the patient IF the patient could have survived or does survive.......oh well, that one will change down the road.

Would taking progesterone help prevent/reverse gyno for men taking Spiro? I am been reading up on its use to balance out estrogen dominance and wondered if it might be useful for those of us dealing with Spiro induced gyno. My understanding is we get gyno becuase of the estrogen dominance cuased by blocking receptor sites for aldo/testosterone. From what i have also read, progesterone gets convered into Aldo. Since we are making aldo by the truck load in PA, is it possible that we become estrogen dominate by the fact we are low on progestrone. If i understand it right, progestrone blocks estrogen receptor sites to some degree. Anyway, curious what your thoughts are on this.

============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 242lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Inspra, 40meq Potassium, 1800mg Calcium, 1000mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammation (From Spiro)Other Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower Pole, Right Flank Pain

DASH: Started "sort of" DASHing 5/3/2011

Status: Last Urine K/Na ratio was 1.1. But total of Na high also