Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 " S. Sosnovsky " wrote: > I am translating a leaflet about a drug approved for treating *metastatic* > colorectal cancer. > I guess, this is *cancer with metastases*. However, the second meaning may > be > *cancer developed as a metastasis* of a tumor whose primary focus is > elsewhere. Metastatic cancer = metastasis or secondary cancer Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Alla Toff wrote: > Metastatic cancer = cancer with metastases. > Alla According to Stedman's: metastatic carcinoma a carcinoma that has appeared in a region remote from its site of origin, as in metastasis (2). Syn: secondary carcinoma. metastasis, pl. metastases 2. The spread of a disease process from one part of the body to another, as in the appearance of neoplasms in parts of the body remote from the site of the primary tumor; results from dissemination of tumor cells by the lymphatics or blood vessels or by direct extension through serous cavities or subarachnoid or other spaces. Sharon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Actually, Sharon and , Aren't they both the same? Cancer forms metastases, which are cancer. So as far as I see both interpretations are the same. But I am not a physician, so I am not going to insist. Alla Re: Metastatic cancer > Alla Toff wrote: > > > Metastatic cancer = cancer with metastases. > > Alla > > According to Stedman's: > > metastatic carcinoma > a carcinoma that has appeared in a region remote from its site of origin, as in > metastasis (2). Syn: secondary carcinoma. > > metastasis, pl. metastases > 2. The spread of a disease process from one part of the body to another, as in > the appearance of neoplasms in parts of the body remote from the site of the > primary tumor; results from dissemination of tumor cells by the lymphatics or > blood vessels or by direct extension through serous cavities or subarachnoid or > other spaces. > > Sharon > > > > URL: www./group/medical_translation > > To unsubscribe, please send an *empty* message to > medical_translation-UNSUBSCRIBEegroups > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Dear , Surprised by yr query as for me, a French, a " metastatic cancer " or " un cancer metastatique " is the same. Of course, it means what you said, but where is the problem ? I don't understand .... GUILLIAUMET - France Medical & Pharmaceutical Translations Traductions medicales et pharmaceutiques mailto:cgtradmed@... +33 (0)4 75 90 96 85 -----Message d'origine----- De : S. Sosnovsky á : medical_translationeGroups <medical_translationeGroups> Date : mercredi 8 novembre 2000 20:43 Objet : Metastatic cancer >Dear colleagues, > >I am translating a leaflet about a drug approved for treating *metastatic* >colorectal cancer. >I guess, this is *cancer with metastases*. However, the second meaning may >be >*cancer developed as a metastasis* of a tumor whose primary focus is >elsewhere. > >Could you help me resolve this dilemma? > >Thanks in advance > > S. Sosnovsky, M.D. >Biomedical Translation & Editing >asosnov@... >Tel. +7 > > > > >URL: www./group/medical_translation > >To unsubscribe, please send an *empty* message to >medical_translation-UNSUBSCRIBEegroups > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Hi : you are right, it is confusing. It all depends on the context.... There are cancers that do not usually spread by metastates, and there are those that do. The term " metastatic cancer " is ambiguous, it can mean both: a cancer that forms metastases, a cancer that is formed by metastases. Perhaps your document gives you some clues as to what is meant here... Ursula ---------- Actually, Sharon and , Aren't they both the same? Cancer forms metastases, which are cancer. So as far as I see both interpretations are the same. But I am not a physician, so I am not going to insist. Alla > Alla Toff wrote: > > > Metastatic cancer = cancer with metastases. > > Alla > > According to Stedman's: > > metastatic carcinoma > a carcinoma that has appeared in a region remote from its site of origin, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 , Metastatic cancer is a cancer that metastasized beyond the primary site. " cancer developed as a metastasis " should be called secondary cancer. Regards, Yana Rachinskaya, Ph.D. Clinical Research Program Coordinator The Cancer Institute s Hopkins Medical Systems --- " S. Sosnovsky " wrote: > Dear colleagues, > > I am translating a leaflet about a drug approved for > treating *metastatic* > colorectal cancer. > I guess, this is *cancer with metastases*. However, > the second meaning may > be > *cancer developed as a metastasis* of a tumor whose > primary focus is > elsewhere. > > Could you help me resolve this dilemma? > > Thanks in advance > > S. Sosnovsky, M.D. > Biomedical Translation & Editing > asosnov@... > Tel. +7 > > > > -------------------------- eGroups Sponsor > -------------------------~-~> > Need options for a health condition? OneBody's > Health Advisor Report > saves time, delivers quality information on new > choices for wellness, > connects you with a Health Professional. Intro rate > $9.95 till 11/30 > http://click./1/10052/2/_/98296/_/973712302/ > --------------------------------------------------------------------> > > URL: www./group/medical_translation > > To unsubscribe, please send an *empty* message to > medical_translation-UNSUBSCRIBEegroups > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 The difference established by Yanna would be very useful if universally accepted, but this is, clearly, not the case. First, for many doctors in general, and oncologists in particular, " secondary cancer " and " metastatic cancer " have exactly the same meaning, as in: http://www.cancerlinks.com/metastatic.html <http://www.cancerlinks.com/metastatic.html> More important, however, is that some use " secondary cancer " with a very different meaning from " metastatic cancer " and from what Yanna is calling " secondary cancer " , as in: http://www.cancersourcemd.com/resources/glossary/detail.cfm?ID=2279 <http://www.cancersourcemd.com/resources/glossary/detail.cfm?ID=2279> second primary cancer [secondary cancer]: cancer that originates in a site different from the PRIMARY CANCER site where the cancer was originally diagnosed. This is different from cancer that has metastasized (spread) from the original site to another location in the body. A second primary cancer is a new cancer in a different location in the body. People who have had cancer are at an increased risk of developing another type of cancer. In most cases a new cancer is not related in any way to the original cancer. In very rare instances, a second primary cancer may be a result of the CHEMOTHERAPY or RADIATION THERAPY administered for the treatment of the first (original) cancer. Regards LP Re: Metastatic cancer Metastatic cancer is a cancer that metastasized beyond the primary site. " cancer developed as a metastasis " should be called secondary cancer. Regards, Yana Rachinskaya, Ph.D. Clinical Research Program Coordinator The Cancer Institute s Hopkins Medical Systems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2000 Report Share Posted November 8, 2000 Dear colleagues, Thank you for your excellent explanations and references. The context and your comments allow me to translate this term as *colorectal cancer with metastases*. Best regards S. Sosnovsky, M.D. Biomedical Translation & Editing asosnov@... Tel. +7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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