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At 05:11 PM 07/27/00, Honeybear3899@... wrote:

>I just wanted to let everyone know that I am able to run again, though I

>still don't know what is wrong with my knee. I went and had an MRI on

>Monday, and I go back for the results next Monday. I then go on leave to see

>my son. And my son is going to be moving back with me. So, there is my

>news. Have a good day.

Wonderful news ! You're just full of good news all around!

Be careful with that knee. Don't put too much stress on it.

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That's wonderful news...both the knee and getting your son back!!!

;-)

F

> I just wanted to let everyone know that I am able to run again,

though I

> still don't know what is wrong with my knee. I went and had an MRI

on

> Monday, and I go back for the results next Monday. I then go on

leave to see

> my son. And my son is going to be moving back with me. So, there

is my

> news. Have a good day.

>

>

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I'm so glad that you're able to run again, and have a wonderful holiday, you

deserve it

Jill

My knee

I just wanted to let everyone know that I am able to run again, though I

still don't know what is wrong with my knee. I went and had an MRI on

Monday, and I go back for the results next Monday. I then go on leave to

see

my son. And my son is going to be moving back with me. So, there is my

news. Have a good day.

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In a message dated 7/27/00 2:12:42 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

Honeybear3899@... writes:

<<

I just wanted to let everyone know that I am able to run again, though I

still don't know what is wrong with my knee. I went and had an MRI on

Monday, and I go back for the results next Monday. I then go on leave to

see

my son. And my son is going to be moving back with me. So, there is my

news. Have a good day.

>>

Wow ! I'm glad things are looking up for you!!!!

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In a message dated 8/2/2000 7:44:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

srferron@... writes:

<< Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an

MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like orthoscopy

is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone

shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it would

feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds then

the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused, and

all was well. He began bending and manipulating my knee, and got the

miniscus to pop back into place...none of which hurt. The surgery

would be to remove any fragments of torn cartilage.

Now I'll have to struggle with my job and hmo (long story), possibly

with the help of a union rep, regarding coverage of this stuff

because, as of now, it looks like I won't have coverage during the

month of september. grrr.

>>

, here's a big hug. That shot sounded so, so painful. I hope it gives

you some immediate relief (I mean having the thing popped back into place).

I'm glad you promptly went to the doctor and got some accurate advice and

care and I hope you can have the surgery soon if need be so you can move on

with your life. What is this about your HMO coverage? How can you not be

covered for one month if you are still employed by the same place? I am

keeping my fingers crossed for you so that you can get the medical problem

taken care of quickly. Maybe your doctor can do it, if the MRI shows that

surgery is necessary, in August so that you can avoid the coverage problem?

Take care. Did the doctor recommend any exercise (like swimming) in the

meantime?

Elena

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Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an

MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like orthoscopy

is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone

shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it would

feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds then

the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused, and

all was well. He began bending and manipulating my knee, and got the

miniscus to pop back into place...none of which hurt. The surgery

would be to remove any fragments of torn cartilage.

Now I'll have to struggle with my job and hmo (long story), possibly

with the help of a union rep, regarding coverage of this stuff

because, as of now, it looks like I won't have coverage during the

month of september. grrr.

>8%

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<<Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected: that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like orthoscopy is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it would feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds then the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused, and all was well. He began bending and manipulating my knee, and got the miniscus to pop back into place...none of which hurt. The surgery would be to remove any fragments of torn cartilage.Now I'll have to struggle with my job and hmo (long story), possibly with the help of a union rep, regarding coverage of this stuff because, as of now, it looks like I won't have coverage during the month of september. grrr. >8% >>

((()))

If it can be of any encouragement, I was operated on for a bad meniscus back in 1991. The recovery was not long at all. After 4 days, I didn't even need crutches to walk. After surgery, you will have to work on your quads to reinforce the knees, but I'm quite sure you should be able to taebo after 6-8 weeks (ask your doc first though). I don't really know about HMOs in the states (as our health care system is very different), but I've heard that they can be pretty nasty with patients. As for your job, I don't think you will be off work for too long.

Janick

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> Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

> that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an

> MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like

orthoscopy

> is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone

> shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it would

> feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds

then

> the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused, and

> all was well. He began bending and manipulating my knee, and got

the

> miniscus to pop back into place...none of which hurt. The surgery

> would be to remove any fragments of torn cartilage.

>

> Now I'll have to struggle with my job and hmo (long story),

possibly

> with the help of a union rep, regarding coverage of this stuff

> because, as of now, it looks like I won't have coverage during the

> month of september. grrr.

>

> >8%

>

Oh Man.....Hugs to you :)

Amybeth-who likes that eight percent sign and likes your positive

attitude towards all this......

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*HUG* I'm so sorry that it's going to be a problem, but hopefully

when it's sorted everything will be fine for you..

'Keep you chin up' and I'll be thinking of you

Jill

who had steroid injection into her wrist w/o painkiller so this bit

made me cringe a lot

> Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

> that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an

> MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like

orthoscopy

> is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone

> shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it would

> feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds

then

> the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused, and

> all was well.

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Hope all goes well for you, .

Hugs,

Ann Marie

> Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

> that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an

> MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like

orthoscopy

> is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone

> shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it would

> feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds

then

> the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused, and

> all was well. He began bending and manipulating my knee, and got

the

> miniscus to pop back into place...none of which hurt. The surgery

> would be to remove any fragments of torn cartilage.

>

> Now I'll have to struggle with my job and hmo (long story),

possibly

> with the help of a union rep, regarding coverage of this stuff

> because, as of now, it looks like I won't have coverage during the

> month of september. grrr.

>

> >8%

>

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> I will be scheduled for an

> MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like

orthoscopy

> is in my relatively near future.

((((()))))

I am sorry that you are going through all of this! You will be in my

thoughts and I hope that you are able to work things out with the

insurance company! I will be sending all my positive, good energy

vibes your way :) I know this is just a temporary setback for you

and that you will fight and kick your way back to complete health :)

who is sending a huge hug to

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> is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone

> shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it

would

> feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds

then

> the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused,

and

> all was well. He began bending and manipulating my knee, and got

the

> miniscus to pop back into place...none of which hurt. The surgery

> would be to remove any fragments of torn cartilage.

, I hope you feel better soon! I am deathly afraid of needles,

and I do not know how you did it! That is amazing. I think i'd pass

out if I had to have that. WOW I really hope it helps you and you

get better quickly!

Amy

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At 10:53 AM 08/02/2000 -0000, you wrote:

>Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

>that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn.

Oh, ...so sorry! That is what happened to me, and it took me a long

time to recuperate. But that was back in the olden days, before

arthroscopy (?) surgery, so I am sure that nowadays it isn't as bad. I

have a huge ole gash on my knee (this was done way back in 1965!).

Afterwards, I did physical therapy, swimming and weights.

The things I have to do, even now, are glute training (you know---sit on

the bench and lift the weights with your ankles?) and most especially, keep

my weight down. When I get too heavy, my knee not only starts hurting, but

sometimes it will snap out of the joint. That sure is incentive to keep

lighter and to keep exercising!

I wish you the best of luck and a fast healing!

Joya

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> Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

> that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an

> MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like

orthoscopy

> is in my relatively near future. He gave me a xylicane/cortisone

> shot into the knee...wow did that hurt! He warned me that it would

> feel like wildfire, and he was right...for just about 2 seconds

then

> the xylicane (which caused the pain) numbed the pain IT caused, and

> all was well. He began bending and manipulating my knee, and got

the

> miniscus to pop back into place...none of which hurt. The surgery

> would be to remove any fragments of torn cartilage.

>

> Now I'll have to struggle with my job and hmo (long story),

possibly

> with the help of a union rep, regarding coverage of this stuff

> because, as of now, it looks like I won't have coverage during the

> month of september. grrr.

>

> >8%

>

,

So sorry to hear about your knee. It brings back memories. I started

having knee pain late August 98, and thought I had just pulled

something. 4 weeks later, it was getting worse, so finally went to

doctor who sent me to orthopedist, who immediately suspected torn

meniscus, which was proven by MRI a week later. Being a nurse, he

siad

I would need to be off work 6 weeks, to 3 months, depending on if he

could repair it, but would not know til he did arthoscopy. I had to

wait 5 weeks til he had time in his schedule to do the surgery, so

was

forced to continue working. Ice and Motrin helped in the meantime,

but

it was frustrating and painful having to wait. He could not repair

it, as it was too badly torn, so he cut out the damaged area. I was

weight bearing on it 4 hours after the surgery. I was only in the

hospital for 3 1/2 hours after surgery was over. Then started

physical

therapy twice a week about 2 weeks later. My advice post-op, is do

not

rush things, cuz when I tried to do too much too fast, all it caused

was more pain. You will be given a daily homework assignment of

strenghthening exercises by PT, as well as exercises during PT. With

3

small kids at the time of the surgery, I was on my feet much too

much,

which caused more swelling, so was forced to ice it, and keep it

elevated.

I wish you well, and if i can answer any questions, feel free to

e-mail. The scars are minimal, and barely visible. ((((((())))))

Take care,

Patty

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> What is this about your HMO coverage? How can you not be

> covered for one month if you are still employed by the same place?

The School Social Work Department is granted only a certain number of

permanent positions...the people who've been working the longest are

given those slots. The rest of us are hired for the year and

terminated at the end...then we get rehired. Because of this, we

have to apply in August to renew our benefits, and it takes 4-6 weeks

to process, so we get benefits beginning Oct. 1.

However, I was under the impression that after 3 years, I would

be " tenured " and my benefits could be renewed earlier than August,

eliminating the September gap in coverage. But, all of the

supervisory staff in my dept. are out on vacation at the same time

(dumb!), and I can't get a straight answer from " Human Resources "

or " Risk Management. " So, I think I'm going to pay a visit to my

union.

> Maybe your doctor can do it, if the MRI shows that

> surgery is necessary, in August so that you can avoid the coverage

>problem?

I spoke with his nurse today who said that that can be done. I'm

waiting for the doc's patient advocate to get me authorization for

the MRI, and then the ball gets rolling.

> Take care. Did the doctor recommend any exercise (like swimming) in

> the meantime?

The only thing he recommended was to do straight leg raises, one leg

at a time with 3 pound weights. It's unfortunate that I hate

swimming as a form of exercise...makes me feel confined and almost

claustrophobic (though I love splashing around in a pool). I think

I'll go to the Tulane gym where they have those cycling machines that

have arm levers...the machines can be set to do arms only. I'll try

that.

;-)

F

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In a message dated 08/03/2000 3:05:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

srferron@... writes:

<< However, I was under the impression that after 3 years, I would

be " tenured " and my benefits could be renewed earlier than August,

eliminating the September gap in coverage. But, all of the

supervisory staff in my dept. are out on vacation at the same time

(dumb!), and I can't get a straight answer from " Human Resources "

or " Risk Management. " So, I think I'm going to pay a visit to my

union. >>

,

what about Cobra?

you should have the option of paying your own premium on the uncovered months

Barb

who used COBRA to continue my dental insurance after I quit

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In a message dated 8/2/00 4:44:52 AM Pacific Daylight Time, srferron@...

writes:

<< Well, I went to the orthpedist who informed me what I suspected:

that my miniscus (cartilage) is torn. I will be scheduled for an

MRI, and then we will know for certain, but it looks like orthoscopy

is in my relatively near future. >>

OUCH!!! My thoughts go out to you . I'm glad the doctors were able to

find out what was wrong, though. And good luck with the HMO. I know they can

be a pain in the butt sometimes. Get well as soon as you can!

who still hopes will come out in October ;)

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I was taking aqua aerobics before my trip, and even that was not low-

impact enough on my right leg, and it required lateral leg moves

which hurt my knee. I can only do straight-legged forward and

(carefully) backward. ::sigh::

;-)

F

who's beginning to feel her muscles letting go and doesn't like it

one bit

> >

> > > What is this about your HMO coverage? How can you not be

> > > covered for one month if you are still employed by the same

> place?

>

> >

> > The School Social Work Department is granted only a certain

number

> of

> > permanent positions...the people who've been working the longest

> are

> > given those slots. The rest of us are hired for the year and

> > terminated at the end...then we get rehired. Because of this, we

> > have to apply in August to renew our benefits, and it takes 4-6

> weeks

> > to process, so we get benefits beginning Oct. 1.

> >

> > However, I was under the impression that after 3 years, I would

> > be " tenured " and my benefits could be renewed earlier than

August,

> > eliminating the September gap in coverage. But, all of the

> > supervisory staff in my dept. are out on vacation at the same

time

> > (dumb!), and I can't get a straight answer from " Human Resources "

> > or " Risk Management. " So, I think I'm going to pay a visit to my

> > union.

> >

> > > Maybe your doctor can do it, if the MRI shows that

> > > surgery is necessary, in August so that you can avoid the

> coverage

> > >problem?

> >

> > I spoke with his nurse today who said that that can be done. I'm

> > waiting for the doc's patient advocate to get me authorization

for

> > the MRI, and then the ball gets rolling.

> >

> > > Take care. Did the doctor recommend any exercise (like

swimming)

> in

> > > the meantime?

> >

> > The only thing he recommended was to do straight leg raises, one

> leg

> > at a time with 3 pound weights. It's unfortunate that I hate

> > swimming as a form of exercise...makes me feel confined and

almost

> > claustrophobic (though I love splashing around in a pool). I

think

> > I'll go to the Tulane gym where they have those cycling machines

> that

> > have arm levers...the machines can be set to do arms only. I'll

> try

> > that.

> >

> > ;-)

> > Sounds like someone is trying to save money at their employees'

> expense. What a terrible, cruel system. I hope it works out for

> you.

> I don't like swimming either and can barely do it (partly because

I

> am so blind). Maybe there is an aqua aerobics class you can take?

> Hang in there, .

>

> Elena

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I was planning to contact " Risk Management " (the new bulls*it term

for " Benefits " tomorrow). We'll see how much it costs.

> In a message dated 08/03/2000 3:05:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> srferron@a... writes:

>

> << However, I was under the impression that after 3 years, I would

> be " tenured " and my benefits could be renewed earlier than August,

> eliminating the September gap in coverage. But, all of the

> supervisory staff in my dept. are out on vacation at the same time

> (dumb!), and I can't get a straight answer from " Human Resources "

> or " Risk Management. " So, I think I'm going to pay a visit to my

> union. >>

>

> ,

> what about Cobra?

> you should have the option of paying your own premium on the

uncovered months

>

> Barb

> who used COBRA to continue my dental insurance after I quit

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You reminded me - a friend of mine broke both legs in a bike accident last year, and while in plaster he kept tensing muscles even thought he couldn't move, so when the plaster came off he'd retained most of his strength and so his recovery was a lot quicker from there on.

Jill

who can't remember what the pricipal is called

Message: 5 Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2000 03:39:01 -0000 Subject: Re: My kneeI was taking aqua aerobics before my trip, and even that was not low-impact enough on my right leg, and it required lateral leg moveswhich hurt my knee. I can only do straight-legged forward and(carefully) backward. ::sigh::;-)Fwho's beginning to feel her muscles letting go and doesn't like itone bit

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In a message dated 08/04/2000 2:25:07 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

j.clappison@... writes:

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> You reminded me - a friend of mine broke both legs in a bike accident last

> year, and while in plaster he kept tensing muscles even thought he couldn't

> move, so when the plaster came off he'd retained most of his strength and

so

> his recovery was a lot quicker from there on.

>

> Jill

> who can't remember what the pricipal is called

isometrics can definitely help

to keep the tone but probably not to increase it further

Barb

who would just try everything carefully and keep what doesn't hurt

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>F

>who's beginning to feel her muscles letting go and doesn't like it

>one bit

.

I just thought of something...can't you do upper body weight training so at

least that part of you is still feeling strong and you will feel exercised?

My routine takes at least a half hour and my legs aren't involved in any way.

Something to consider...

Joya

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