Re: A setback (or is it?)

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In a message dated 8/1/00 3:20:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

janou_pou@... writes:

<< hen we gain weight according to the scale, our odd human behavior adds to

our punishment by either deciding to binge or starve. This reinforces our

most profound fear: failing. >>

That is so true Janick! You expressed yourself perfectly!!

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In a message dated 08/01/2000 1:47:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Agaw12577@... writes:

<< The scale showed a gain of 8 pounds! >>

admit it!!

the hammer you were holding weighed 10 pounds

Barb

who doesn't understand why I weigh more on doctor's scales while son weighs

less on doctor's scales than what we do on the old scale at home

[Guest guest]

Elena, SOOOOOO SOOOOOOOOO true!

I'm going to go out on a limb here. I hadn't really shared this with

anyone, but I had recently tried WW. I was getting a little

frustrated with my weight-loss progress and was taking a really close

look at what I was doing. I had made 2 major changes in my life so

far, I was exercising routinely 5x a week and getting ample water (10

cups/day). The weight still was not coming off at the rate I thought

it should and I had one last thing that needed to be looked at - my

food intake. I decided to try WW to see if I was eating too much

(maybe) or too little (impossible!). Turns out I wasn't watching my

dinner portions as closely and I was not getting enough fiber. Over

3 months I lost 8 pounds on WW. Every week I would go it was either

gained 2, lost 2, stayed the same - what a rollercoaster and very

frustrating!!!

This last time I went back, I could feel that I definitely lost

something and my clothes were definitely looser. But the scale lied

again - I lost ZERO pounds!!!! The scale doesn't measure inches!!!

So why am I paying them $12 a week to tell me I lost inches??? This

is something I already knew.

I'm not knocking WW in anyway, hope nobody takes offense. Their

eating plan is excellent and very healthy. I've come away from WW

with a lot of knowledge about myself and my eating plan (not calling

it a diet!). That in itself is priceless. I know this weight will

come off in good time and I'm satisfied that I've got the whole

package together: Exercise, Water, and a Healthy Eating plan.

Hugs,

Ann Marie

> It just means that the scale on any given day tells us very little

>

> Elena

[Guest guest]

what an inspiration you are, . Thank you

Roni

Who is struggling to be more calm and rational about her eating habits

(I like this signature thingie you guys do here)

A setback (or is it?)

> Everyone knows that I have been less than thrilled with my eating habits

> lately. This afternoon I got on the scale. Big no-no! First of all, who

> weights themselves in the middle of the day? A week before their period no

> less? Apparently, I do! The scale showed a gain of 8 pounds! My first

impulse

> was to reach for the hammer <g>, but I am not going to do that this time.

> First of all, I am going to do what I never do, which is cut myself some

> slack. A few of those pounds have to be the result of bloating and eating

> lunch. OK, so let's assume that I have gained 5 pounds. A few months ago,

I

> would have completely flipped out. I would have either gone on a wild

eating

> binge or I would have sworn to never eat again. Today though, I was

actually

> pretty calm. While I am not happy that I have gained weight, I won't let

this

> set back shake me self-confidence. I know that my eating habits need some

> work. This is motivation to try harder to eat healthier. I am going to use

> this to my advantage instead of beating myself up with it. The reason I am

> sharing all of this is because I am still in awe over the inner changes I

> have made as a result of Tae-Bo. Those of you who are veterans of this

list

> remember my old attitude. A few months ago, I would have totally flipped

out

> over gaining a few pounds!! I would go right to counting calories and

working

> out for an hour or two a day. And then I would brag about how I had lost

the

> weight I gained. It feels so good to not be trapped in that way of

thinking

> anymore. I really feel free for the first time. Tae-Bo can be so life

> changing if you open your heart to it ... it is so much more than a way to

> burn calories!!! I know this probably sounds incredibly cheesy, so I'll

give

> it a rest. I just wanted to say to those of you who are struggling, you

can

> use it to your advantage. It is up to YOU to decided if you are going to

let

> your body image control you, or if you are going to control it. Setbacks

> happen to everyone and it doesn't mean failure.

> Love you all,

>

>

>

>

> As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the first step. "

>

> Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

>

>

[Guest guest]

It feels so good to not be trapped in that way of thinking

> anymore. I really feel free for the first time. Tae-Bo can be so

life

> changing if you open your heart to it ... it is so much more than a

way to

> burn calories!!!

Great Big Hugs to you -- Give yourself a big ole hug

too you deserve it

peace

AmyBeth

[Guest guest]

Isn't it a great feeling to be free from the scale! How can we let

that mean, little metal box determine our outlook on life? It's all

about how you feel inside.

Good for you, , on the positive emotional changes you have

shown, they come when we least expect them!

Reminded me of a little story:

A grain of sand finds its way inside the shell of an oyster. The

intruder, though microscopic, is a source of irritation and pain to

the soft body of the oyster. Unable to rid itself of the unwelcome

pebble, the oyster seeks to reduce the irritation by coating it with

layers of soft, iridescent mother-of-pearl material from its own

shell. Over time, the oyster transforms a painful irritation into a

beautiful pearl of great value.

So today are you going to concentrate on the pain or the

possibilities? Are you going to focus on the pebble or the pearl?

Breakdowns can be transformed into breakthroughs.

Hugs,

Ann Marie

> Everyone knows that I have been less than thrilled with my eating

habits

> lately. This afternoon I got on the scale. Big no-no! First of all,

who

> weights themselves in the middle of the day? A week before their

period no

> less? Apparently, I do! The scale showed a gain of 8 pounds! My

first impulse

> was to reach for the hammer <g>, but I am not going to do that this

time.

> First of all, I am going to do what I never do, which is cut myself

some

> slack. A few of those pounds have to be the result of bloating and

eating

> lunch. OK, so let's assume that I have gained 5 pounds. A few

months ago, I

> would have completely flipped out. I would have either gone on a

wild eating

> binge or I would have sworn to never eat again. Today though, I was

actually

> pretty calm. While I am not happy that I have gained weight, I

won't let this

> set back shake me self-confidence. I know that my eating habits

need some

> work. This is motivation to try harder to eat healthier. I am going

to use

> this to my advantage instead of beating myself up with it. The

reason I am

> sharing all of this is because I am still in awe over the inner

changes I

> have made as a result of Tae-Bo. Those of you who are veterans of

this list

> remember my old attitude. A few months ago, I would have totally

flipped out

> over gaining a few pounds!! I would go right to counting calories

and working

> out for an hour or two a day. And then I would brag about how I had

lost the

> weight I gained. It feels so good to not be trapped in that way of

thinking

> anymore. I really feel free for the first time. Tae-Bo can be so

life

> changing if you open your heart to it ... it is so much more than a

way to

> burn calories!!! I know this probably sounds incredibly cheesy, so

I'll give

> it a rest. I just wanted to say to those of you who are struggling,

you can

> use it to your advantage. It is up to YOU to decided if you are

going to let

> your body image control you, or if you are going to control it.

Setbacks

> happen to everyone and it doesn't mean failure.

> Love you all,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Joya!

No, not silly at all, cuz I sure wasn't aware!

I would normally eat fresh fruit 2x a day as a snack and a vegetable

with dinner and that was it. I thought it was OK because I like most

vegetables and don't have a problem getting them down. The fact was

I just wasn't getting them in to my daily intake.

I upped my fruit/veggie intake to include a salad at lunchtime and

sometimes dinner, and I try to keep cut-up fresh veggies on hand

for " emergencies " (which I always eat). I've also added a cup of V-8

at lunchtime.

I've also learned how to read food labels and to look for the dietary

fiber grams. I always eat cereal for breakfast and the ones I was

having only had 1-2 grams of fiber. I now eat ones that have

anywhere from 4 - 8 grams of fiber.

I also have Arnold Bakery Light bread which is 4 grams of fiber per

slice.

If you know what to look for, that's half the battle and you can

really improve your fiber intake.

Hope that helps!

Ann Marie

> Turns out I wasn't watching my

> >dinner portions as closely and I was not getting enough fiber.

>

> Ann Marie,

>

> I know this may sound silly, but in what ways did you add fiber?

>

> Thanks,

> Joya

[Guest guest]

At 01:46 PM 08/01/00, Agaw12577@... wrote:

>I am going to use this to my advantage instead of beating myself up with it.

Wow ! What a great outlook! I'm impressed. You might not think so,

but I put your message in the " brag " category. Changing the way you

approach a weight gain is something to brag about.

Thanks for the motivation!

-- Sandy

[Guest guest]

That is one thing I will NEVER understand. How can we lose gobs and

gobs of inches and only lose but a few pounds???? How can we look

slimmer and clothes hang off us and the scale not even budge an

ounce!!! THIS DRIVES ME CCCCCRRRRAAAAZZZZYYYY!!!!!! Every time I

got on that scale at WW I felt like I was walking the plank!

Ann Marie - who before WW weighed herself every 2-3 months and was

MUCH happier!!!

> In a message dated 08/01/2000 2:39:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> ann.marie.kleiber@w... writes:

>

> << This last time I went back, I could feel that I definitely lost

> something and my clothes were definitely looser. But the scale

lied

> again - I lost ZERO pounds!!!! The scale doesn't measure

inches!!!

> So why am I paying them $12 a week to tell me I lost inches???

This

> is something I already knew >>

>

> that is exactly how I felt after being weighed at the doctor's

office

> How can my waist be almost 12 inches smaller and the scale show

only an 8

> pound loss over the year?

> Answer, the scale is not a good indicator of fitness

>

> Barb

> who doesn't respect any chart that doesn't take framesize and

musculature

> into consideration

[Guest guest]

Barb,

Have you tried eating a variety of foods? They told us at WW, if

things (weight) just aren't moving for you, if you're eating pretty

much the same stuff everyday, to try to eat different things. Just

as your body can get used to a workout and not change, so can your

metabolism. Your body will expect the same things each day and not

do much with it. If you get a variety of foods, you sort of throw

your body a curve ball and it works even harder.

Ann Marie - who tried this and it worked and had an inches drop the

week after I left WW

> In a message dated 08/01/2000 3:04:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> ann.marie.kleiber@w... writes:

>

> << Thanks Elena! I think at the rate I was going, I was either

going to

> go crazy or go broke! LOL! Or both!

> >>

>

> well at least Bob doesn't say it is cuz of too much water like

another

> husband I know

> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

>

> Barb

> who is determined to bust my plateau then write a book and become

rich LOL

[Guest guest]

Wow Barb! Sounds like you've tried it all. How about trying " no

diet? " Maybe just forgetting about it and just eating what you want,

although healthy. It could possibly shake things up for you.

Ann Marie - who since eating healthy has no tolerance level for

alcohol!!!! LOL!

> In a message dated 08/01/2000 7:46:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> ann.marie.kleiber@w... writes:

>

> << Have you tried eating a variety of foods? They told us at WW,

if

> things (weight) just aren't moving for you, if you're eating

pretty

> much the same stuff everyday, to try to eat different things.

Just

> as your body can get used to a workout and not change, so can your

> metabolism. Your body will expect the same things each day and

not

> do much with it. If you get a variety of foods, you sort of throw

> your body a curve ball and it works even harder.

>

> Ann Marie - who tried this and it worked and had an inches drop

the

> week after I left WW >>

>

> yup tried that too

> went thru a phase of eating alot of lowfat/art sweetened yogurt,

cottage

> cheese, and skim milk ( a dairy diet) with fruit, a phase of eating

> absolutely no refined carbs (extremely high fiber diet) & very

lowfat, even a

> phase of eating mostly protein (alot of eggs and lean meat)

> also have been eating like a king for breakfast, prince for lunch

and pauper

> for dinner with no evening snack though I much prefer to eat more

as the day

> progresses have tried to stick to this routine most of the time

> tried eating 4-6 small meals a day, starting with as soon as I woke

up

> tried not having my first meal till after the morning work-out

> and thru-out all of these endeavors hardly ever over-ate and never

binged

> (never was a binger but had a slow steady weight gain over many

decades)

> thru-out each have been having 8-10 glasses of water

> hardly drink anything else cept a morning cup of black coffee

> no alcohol (hm, maybe I need to try that LOL)

>

> Barb

> who decided after trying everything from 1200-1400 calories a day

for 2

> months to 2200-2500 calories for 2 months that counting calories

made

> absolutely no difference in what the scale read and that my

setpoint was set

> in stone, no matter whether surrounded by mostly fat or mostly

muscle

> but there is an upside, I can eat whatever I want without gaining

too

[Guest guest]

That's fabulous *HUG* I'm so chuffed for you....

Jill

who completely understands how truly awesome 'inner change' can feel..

....The reason I am

> sharing all of this is because I am still in awe over the inner

changes I

> have made as a result of Tae-Bo. Those of you who are veterans of

this list

> remember my old attitude. A few months ago, I would have totally

flipped out

> over gaining a few pounds!! I would go right to counting calories

and working

> out for an hour or two a day. And then I would brag about how I had

lost the

> weight I gained. It feels so good to not be trapped in that way of

thinking

> anymore. I really feel free for the first time. Tae-Bo can be so

life

> changing if you open your heart to it ... it is so much more than a

way to

> burn calories!!!

[Guest guest]

My friend belongs to a group of female motor cyclists that call

themselves the 'F*ck the ironing club' - perhaps we should form

the 'sod the scales club' *LOL*

Jill

who hopes no-one is offended

> Wow, I am in awe of you, . You are blossoming before our

very

> eyes! I am so impressed with your inner growth. will be

> doing cartwheels! Still, I don't think you have actually gained

any

> weight. I think our " weight " is not a fixed number, but, as you

> observed, is based on so many factors, such as the time of day,

> month, what we had for lunch, ... . I think your scale would agree

> with me. I am starting to get a " little " away from my weight goal.

> I

> weighed 134 today (up 6 since I last reported), but my size 10

> clothes

> are now too big. What does that tell you? That I am fat? No

way!

> It just means that the scale on any given day tells us very

little.

> Thanks for the reminder. I am so, so happy for you.

>

> Elena

[Guest guest]

whoa Janick

It's such a long time since I heard that wonderful word (humongous)

reminds me of being a kid when you'd 'play' with words.

Jill

who thanks Janick (*HUG*) for reminding me and making me smile

> Briefly, I said in that post (that took me awhile to write) that

made a HUMONGOUS step [snip]

> Janick

> who hopes that this all makes sense, cuz it is very difficult to

explain in english for her

[Guest guest]

LOL!!! Offended? I want to join!

;-)

F

who hates ironing

> > Wow, I am in awe of you, . You are blossoming before our

> very

> > eyes! I am so impressed with your inner growth. will be

> > doing cartwheels! Still, I don't think you have actually gained

> any

> > weight. I think our " weight " is not a fixed number, but, as you

> > observed, is based on so many factors, such as the time of day,

> > month, what we had for lunch, ... . I think your scale would

agree

> > with me. I am starting to get a " little " away from my weight

goal.

> > I

> > weighed 134 today (up 6 since I last reported), but my size 10

> > clothes

> > are now too big. What does that tell you? That I am fat? No

> way!

> > It just means that the scale on any given day tells us very

> little.

> > Thanks for the reminder. I am so, so happy for you.

> >

> > Elena

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/1/00 10:47:04 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Agaw12577@... writes:

<< It is up to YOU to decided if you are going to let

your body image control you, or if you are going to control it. Setbacks

happen to everyone and it doesn't mean failure. >>

Yey for ! And I totally agree with you. We are in control of our body

image. I have come to terms with that-if I feel fat one day, it is because I

am making myself feel fat. Not because I am any fatter than I was the day

before, when I felt good/fine about myself.

We are in this for the long haul.

~Kat, whose last day if summer school 9work) is today-yey!

[Guest guest]

Thanks , I wasn't sure about using it.

The english slang usage of sod includes

" sod off " (go away)

" he was a real sod " (awkward/obnoxious/bad/nasty)

and " I don't give a sod " , " sod it " (care/worry)

hope that gives you the idea *LOL*

Jill

who preferred using it to 'scr*w', cos it's not got the sexual

connotation

> In a message dated 8/2/00 6:30:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> j.clappison@a... writes:

>

> << 'sod the scales club' *LOL*

>

> Jill

> who hopes no-one is offended

> >>

>

>

> LOL jIll! I might be offended if I knew what sod meant!

> who doesn't get offended easily

[Guest guest]

> It is up to YOU to decided if you are going to let

> your body image control you, or if you are going to control it.

Setbacks

> happen to everyone and it doesn't mean failure.

,

I cried when I read your message You have no idea (well, maybe

you do cause I tell you all the time...LOL) how proud I am of you!

You have come so far and you have changed so much! It has been

amazing watching you on this journey as you have come to this

realization. You are so strong and confident and you are finally

learning to love yourself and that's the best thing that we can ever

hope for You are such a tae-bo hero! I love you

who knows exactly how feels cause she has gone through the

many of the same things

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/02/2000 11:04:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

TheTaeBoWay@... writes:

<< We are in control of our body

image. I have come to terms with that-if I feel fat one day, it is because

I

am making myself feel fat. Not because I am any fatter than I was the day

before, when I felt good/fine about myself. >>

Totally agree

When I am feeling less fit (refuse to use the other word)

I notice it is when I am slouching and not sucking in the abs

When I sit and stand tall and suck it in,

my whole image shifts back

We can control our moods and self-image by simply shifting our attitude

Barb

who wears more revealing clothes even around the house now so I will make

more of an effort to suck it in

[Guest guest]

> I am starting to get a " little " away from my weight goal.

> I

> weighed 134 today (up 6 since I last reported), but my size 10

> clothes

> are now too big. What does that tell you? That I am fat? No

way!

> It just means that the scale on any given day tells us very

little.

> Thanks for the reminder. I am so, so happy for you.

Elena,

I am proud of you, too You continue to inspire and you are

right....the scale doesn't matter! If you weigh more, but continue

to shrink and fit into smaller size clothes....who cares what the

number is, right? Thanks for sharing your success with us, too

who did cartwheels for both and Elena

[Guest guest]

> I believe I wasn't resting my muscles enough inbetween to get the

full

> benefit of working them

> my new plan practically cuts the TB I used to do in half per week:

> 2 Advanced Tae-Bo work-outs, 2 Basic work-outs with maybe a walk

one of the > Barb

> who can always add back more TB once my body feels ready

Wow, Barb! you were doing 4 advanced and 4 basic workouts a week???

That IS a lot and I could see how your body would definitely need a

break. I'm sure cutting back a bit will make a difference. I take

the weekends off from my workouts because I do Tae-bo Mon-Fri and it

seems to be working pretty good.

Ann Marie - who's wants to add some weight training to her exercise

regimen

[Guest guest]

> I know this weight will

> come off in good time and I'm satisfied that I've got the whole

> package together: Exercise, Water, and a Healthy Eating plan.

Ann Marie,

I have no doubt that you will one day reach all your goals! You have

always had such a positive attitude and you are doing everything

right You are losing weight (and more importantly, inches) slowly

and consistently, without depriving yourself and that means the

weight you lose will stay off for good and you are learning about

yourself and your body along the way! You are enjoying the journey

and where it takes you (even the detours)! And that means you are

succeeding every day Keep it up and thanks for sharing your story

with us

who agrees that WW needs to take into consideration inches lost as a

means of measuring progress

[Guest guest]

Good one, Jill!!! LOL!

Ann Marie - who wasn't offended

> > Wow, I am in awe of you, . You are blossoming before our

> very

> > eyes! I am so impressed with your inner growth. will be

> > doing cartwheels! Still, I don't think you have actually gained

> any

> > weight. I think our " weight " is not a fixed number, but, as you

> > observed, is based on so many factors, such as the time of day,

> > month, what we had for lunch, ... . I think your scale would

agree

> > with me. I am starting to get a " little " away from my weight

goal.

> > I

> > weighed 134 today (up 6 since I last reported), but my size 10

> > clothes

> > are now too big. What does that tell you? That I am fat? No

> way!

> > It just means that the scale on any given day tells us very

> little.

> > Thanks for the reminder. I am so, so happy for you.

> >

> > Elena

[Guest guest]

Thanks, ! You've summed me up completely!!! (even a little

better than I did myself! LOL!)

I believe it's all the little " mini-successes " that add up to that

one great big accomplishment.

Ann Marie - who believes that the detours are a necessary evil which

take us slightly off course to show us new ways to move in a positive

direction

Do you have a medal???

M otivation

E ffort

D etermination

A ttitude

L ifestyle change

>

> > I know this weight will

> > come off in good time and I'm satisfied that I've got the whole

> > package together: Exercise, Water, and a Healthy Eating plan.

>

> Ann Marie,

>

> I have no doubt that you will one day reach all your goals! You

have

> always had such a positive attitude and you are doing everything

> right You are losing weight (and more importantly, inches)

slowly

> and consistently, without depriving yourself and that means the

> weight you lose will stay off for good and you are learning about

> yourself and your body along the way! You are enjoying the journey

> and where it takes you (even the detours)! And that means you are

> succeeding every day Keep it up and thanks for sharing your

story

> with us

>

>

> who agrees that WW needs to take into consideration inches lost as

a

> means of measuring progress

[Guest guest]

>

> another thing you do not see taken into consideration by

professionals is a

> woman's cup size. Genetically some are more endowed than others and

this

> breast weight shouldn't make a woman be classified as overweight or

obese

> when she may be very healthy as far as fat content in the rest of

her body

>

> Barb

> who knows alot of my excess weight is from being a tad top heavy

HERE, HERE!! I second that. If I could shave off about 80% off my

top, I bet I'd be 10 pounds lighter, and RIGHT where I want to be.

HAHAHAHHAHA. I'm just waiting for Tae Bo to help me become less

Mammarily Challenged... hahah

Man, it's going to be the LAST thing to go, isn't it... ??

Especially when you have genetics workign against you. Most of the

women in my family have a similar problem, and have only remedied it

by the 'knife', BUT there's NO WAY you could get me in for that.

Amy