Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Whatever the risks of tanning beds and skin cancer, I would not rely on it for much of a contribution to active vitamin D levels in your body. I cannot find the study right now, but there have been reports that a significant number, like 25% maybe, of Australian lifeguards in summer still have less than optimal vit D levels in their blood. Take 1000 iu vit D as a supplement to be on the safe side. Charlie Smigelski RD Boston Holick MF. Vitamin D: importance in the prevention of cancers, type 1 diabetes, heart disease, and osteoporosis. Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Mar;79(3):362-71. Erratum in: Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 May;79(5):890. Vitamin D, Skin, and Bone Research Laboratory, Section of Endocrinology, Diabetes, and Nutrition, Department of Medicine, Boston University School of Medicine, Boston, MA 02118-2394, USA. The purpose of this review is to put into perspective the many health benefits of vitamin D and the role of vitamin D deficiency in increasing the risk of many common and serious diseases, including some common cancers, type 1 diabetes, cardiovascular disease, and osteoporosis. Numerous epidemiologic studies suggest that exposure to sunlight, which enhances the production of vitamin D(3) in the skin, is important in preventing many chronic diseases. Because very few foods naturally contain vitamin D, sunlight supplies most of our vitamin D requirement. 25-Hydroxyvitamin D [25(OH)D] is the metabolite that should be measured in the blood to determine vitamin D status. Vitamin D deficiency is prevalent in infants who are solely breastfed and who do not receive vitamin D supplementation and in adults of all ages who have increased skin pigmentation or who always wear sun protection or limit their outdoor activities. Vitamin D deficiency is often misdiagnosed as fibromyalgia. A new dietary source of vitamin D is orange juice fortified with vitamin D. Studies in both human and animal models add strength to the hypothesis that the unrecognized epidemic of vitamin D deficiency worldwide is a contributing factor of many chronic debilitating diseases. Greater awareness of the insidious consequences of vitamin D deficiency is needed. Annual measurement of serum 25(OH)D is a reasonable approach to monitoring for vitamin D deficiency. The recommended adequate intakes for vitamin D are inadequate, and, in the absence of exposure to sunlight, a minimum of 1000 IU vitamin D/d is required to maintain a healthy concentration of 25(OH)D in the blood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Vitamin D according to dr Marshall is a double egded sword, it is necessary, but also an immunosuppressant, more about Vitamin D and chronic bacterial infections also possibly implicated in ASD at www.marshallprotocol.com Geir Flatabø 2008/11/25 Eva family The Indie has got a health supplement page setting out evidence on theuselessness of vitamin pills -- the big exception being Vit D and saying that no one gets enough from diet. Apparently the chief medical officerof Scotland is convening a meeting to discuss the great need foradditional Vit D in Scotland -- because of the bad weather and the lackof fish in their diets (as distinct from days of yore when they were all fisherfolk and lived on fish).Sally------------------------------------DISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Make sure it's D2. Much more absorb able for your body. Cod liver is a good source, but if you're taking a lot or combining it with other vitamins, keep a close eye on your vit A intake, it has a low toxicity range, ie you don't want too much vit A and cod liver contains quite a bit. Esp imp for kids and pregnant women to watch their vit A. I go by Canada's recommendations, we are a lot closer to them in sunlight and they are more updated. Faith > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to boost the immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips suggested here and am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you do as these dark winter months approach? > Thanks > Susie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Make sure it's D2. Much more absorb able for your body. Cod liver is a good source, but if you're taking a lot or combining it with other vitamins, keep a close eye on your vit A intake, it has a low toxicity range, ie you don't want too much vit A and cod liver contains quite a bit. Esp imp for kids and pregnant women to watch their vit A. I go by Canada's recommendations, we are a lot closer to them in sunlight and they are more updated. Faith > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to boost the immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips suggested here and am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you do as these dark winter months approach? > Thanks > Susie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think you meant D3 Faith. That is the natural, more absorb-able form. Barb ________________________________ To: trad-foods-MN Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 1:11:02 PM Subject: Re: Vitamin D Make sure it's D2. Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I think you meant D3 Faith. That is the natural, more absorb-able form. Barb ________________________________ To: trad-foods-MN Sent: Mon, November 2, 2009 1:11:02 PM Subject: Re: Vitamin D Make sure it's D2. Faith Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Are you sure? I was pretty certain that Vitamin D3 is the more absorbable form. Terri http://mamaterri.wordpress.com Re: Vitamin D Make sure it's D2. Much more absorb able for your body. Cod liver is a good ource, but if you're taking a lot or combining it with other vitamins, keep a lose eye on your vit A intake, it has a low toxicity range, ie you don't want oo much vit A and cod liver contains quite a bit. Esp imp for kids and regnant women to watch their vit A. go by Canada's recommendations, we are a lot closer to them in sunlight and hey are more updated. aith With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to boost he immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips suggested here nd am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you do as these dark inter months approach? Thanks Susie ----------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Are you sure? I was pretty certain that Vitamin D3 is the more absorbable form. Terri http://mamaterri.wordpress.com Re: Vitamin D Make sure it's D2. Much more absorb able for your body. Cod liver is a good ource, but if you're taking a lot or combining it with other vitamins, keep a lose eye on your vit A intake, it has a low toxicity range, ie you don't want oo much vit A and cod liver contains quite a bit. Esp imp for kids and regnant women to watch their vit A. go by Canada's recommendations, we are a lot closer to them in sunlight and hey are more updated. aith With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to boost he immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips suggested here nd am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you do as these dark inter months approach? Thanks Susie ----------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp *Dietary supplements* In supplements and fortified foods, vitamin D is available in two forms, D2 (ergocalciferol) and D3(cholecalciferol). Vitamin D2 is manufactured by the UV irradiation of ergosterol in yeast, and vitamin D3 is manufactured by the irradiation of 7-dehydrocholesterol from lanolin and the chemical conversion of cholesterol [10 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en10>]. The two forms have traditionally been regarded as equivalent based on their ability to cure rickets, but evidence has been offered that they are metabolized differently. Vitamin D3 could be more than three times as effective as vitamin D2 in raising serum 25(OH)D concentrations and maintaining those levels for a longer time, and its metabolites have superior affinity for vitamin D-binding proteins in plasma [5<http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en5> ,39 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en39>,40<http://ods.od.nih.gov/fa\ ctsheets/vitamind.asp#en40> ]. Because metabolite receptor affinity is not a functional assessment, as the earlier results for the healing of rickets were, further research is needed on the comparative physiological effects of both forms. Many supplements are being reformulated to contain vitamin D3 instead of vitamin D2[40 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en40>]. Both forms (as well as vitamin D in foods and from cutaneous synthesis) effectively raise serum 25(OH)D levels [5 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en5> ]. Sharon, NH > > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to > boost the immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips > suggested here and am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you > do as these dark winter months approach? > Thanks > Susie > > -- I just happen to think that in life we need to be a little like the farmer, who puts back into the soil what he takes out " ~ Newman Deut 11:15 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will have plenty to eat. Check out my blog - www.ericsons.net - Food for the Body and Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp *Dietary supplements* In supplements and fortified foods, vitamin D is available in two forms, D2 (ergocalciferol) and D3(cholecalciferol). Vitamin D2 is manufactured by the UV irradiation of ergosterol in yeast, and vitamin D3 is manufactured by the irradiation of 7-dehydrocholesterol from lanolin and the chemical conversion of cholesterol [10 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en10>]. The two forms have traditionally been regarded as equivalent based on their ability to cure rickets, but evidence has been offered that they are metabolized differently. Vitamin D3 could be more than three times as effective as vitamin D2 in raising serum 25(OH)D concentrations and maintaining those levels for a longer time, and its metabolites have superior affinity for vitamin D-binding proteins in plasma [5<http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en5> ,39 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en39>,40<http://ods.od.nih.gov/fa\ ctsheets/vitamind.asp#en40> ]. Because metabolite receptor affinity is not a functional assessment, as the earlier results for the healing of rickets were, further research is needed on the comparative physiological effects of both forms. Many supplements are being reformulated to contain vitamin D3 instead of vitamin D2[40 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en40>]. Both forms (as well as vitamin D in foods and from cutaneous synthesis) effectively raise serum 25(OH)D levels [5 <http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp#en5> ]. Sharon, NH > > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to > boost the immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips > suggested here and am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you > do as these dark winter months approach? > Thanks > Susie > > -- I just happen to think that in life we need to be a little like the farmer, who puts back into the soil what he takes out " ~ Newman Deut 11:15 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will have plenty to eat. Check out my blog - www.ericsons.net - Food for the Body and Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'm sorry. I was NAK and distracted. Yes, good eye. I meant d3 and to avoid d2. Faith > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to boost > he immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips suggested here > nd am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you do as these dark > inter months approach? > Thanks > Susie > > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 I'm sorry. I was NAK and distracted. Yes, good eye. I meant d3 and to avoid d2. Faith > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to boost > he immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips suggested here > nd am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you do as these dark > inter months approach? > Thanks > Susie > > > > ----------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2009 Report Share Posted November 2, 2009 Actually, it should be D-3, not D-2. D-2 is much less utliized by the body. Additionally, it is D-3 that is measured with the 25, (OH) D lab test to check for vitamin d levels. Dr. Cannell recommends dosages in the 5000 iu range (D-3) per day. Jim D On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 2:11 PM, bubblingovernow <bubblingovernow@... > wrote: > > > Make sure it's D2. Much more absorb able for your body. Cod liver is a good > source, but if you're taking a lot or combining it with other vitamins, keep > a close eye on your vit A intake, it has a low toxicity range, ie you don't > want too much vit A and cod liver contains quite a bit. Esp imp for kids and > pregnant women to watch their vit A. > I go by Canada's recommendations, we are a lot closer to them in sunlight > and they are more updated. > Faith > > > > > > > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to > boost the immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips > suggested here and am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you > do as these dark winter months approach? > > Thanks > > Susie > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 http://westonaprice.org/basicnutrition/cod-liver-oil-menu.html It's always good to refresh on WAP articles when appropriate. I have had optimal (or close to it) Vitamin D levels for the past 2 years after testing, and the one thing I did without taking a single CLO pill or liquid was go tanning and get in the sun whenever I can. I wish there was a different option, but I have to say that it works. I am in the process of trying to find a tanning bed somewhere that emits UV-B rather than A, since that's the one (A) that's more dangerous, and causes wrinkles. It does feel good in the winter to get warm and soak up the rays! > > > > > > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to > > boost the immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips > > suggested here and am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you > > do as these dark winter months approach? > > Thanks > > Susie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 I agree, though I was tested last spring and found to be " low " and my doctor said that with a low level such as I had (haven't been retested yet) the sun would be a drop in the bucket for raising it up significantly. She might have been trying to scare me away from the sun, not sure, or maybe not intentionally. But, I do agree that there is sun fear mania going around. My sense is that anything that natural that feels that good must be somewhat right for us, in spite of the changes in atmosphere etc. and climate change. > > > > > > > > > > > With all of the sickness going around, I am trying different things to > > > boost the immunities of the people in my family. I've taken many tips > > > suggested here and am now tackling the Vitamin D issue. What do some of you > > > do as these dark winter months approach? > > > Thanks > > > Susie > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Mercola has " vit D lights " available. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2009 Report Share Posted November 3, 2009 Mercola has " vit D lights " available. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 If you are taking 100,000 IU/week, I suspect you are taking prescription D2. Here's a study on the efficacy of D3 and other forms. http://www.annals.org/content/155/10/JC5-04.full.pdf+html?maxtoshow= & hits=5 & RESULTFORMAT= & andorexacttitle=or & titleabstract=%2522vitamin+D%2522 & andorexacttitleabs=and & andorexactfulltext=and & searchid=1 & usestrictdates=yes & resourcetype=HWCIT & ct Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Brown I take 100,00UI per week. I dont think i notice any symptoms from it, but I had low calcium and low vit D, and high PTH. All straightened out when I cut back on the salty foods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 The link is not working. Chris > > If you are taking 100,000 IU/week, I suspect you are taking prescription D2. Here's a study on the efficacy of D3 and other forms. > > http://www.annals.org/content/155/10/JC5-04.full.pdf+html?maxtoshow= <http://www.annals.org/content/155/10/JC5-04.full.pdf+html?maxtoshow= & hits=5 & RES\ ULTFORMAT= & andorexacttitle=or & titleabstract=%2522vitamin+D%2522 & andorexacttitlea\ bs=and & andorexactfulltext=and & searchid=1 & usestrictdates=yes & resourcetype=HWCIT & c\ t> & hits=5 & RESULTFORMAT= & andorexacttitle=or & titleabstract=%2522vitamin+D%2522 & andor\ exacttitleabs=and & andorexactfulltext=and & searchid=1 & usestrictdates=yes & resourcet\ ype=HWCIT & ct > > > Val > > From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Brown > > I take 100,00UI per week. I dont think i notice any symptoms from it, but I had low calcium and low vit D, and high PTH. All straightened out when I cut back on the salty foods. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 ls of Internal Medicine, 11/15/11 Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Chris_SSent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 12:08 PMTo: hyperaldosteronism Subject: Re: Vitamin D The link is not working.Chris>> If you are taking 100,000 IU/week, I suspect you are taking prescription D2. Here's a study on the efficacy of D3 and other forms.> > http://www.annals.org/content/155/10/JC5-04.full.pdf+html?maxtoshow= <http://www.annals.org/content/155/10/JC5-04.full.pdf+html?maxtoshow= & hits=5 & RESULTFORMAT= & andorexacttitle=or & titleabstract=%2522vitamin+D%2522 & andorexacttitleabs=and & andorexactfulltext=and & searchid=1 & usestrictdates=yes & resourcetype=HWCIT & ct> & hits=5 & RESULTFORMAT= & andorexacttitle=or & titleabstract=%2522vitamin+D%2522 & andorexacttitleabs=and & andorexactfulltext=and & searchid=1 & usestrictdates=yes & resourcetype=HWCIT & ct> > > Val> > From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Brown> > I take 100,00UI per week. I dont think i notice any symptoms from it, but I had low calcium and low vit D, and high PTH. All straightened out when I cut back on the salty foods.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2011 Report Share Posted December 4, 2011 Might want to get Vit D blood level checked and read about Vit D toxicity. See http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/about-vitamin-d/what-is-vitamin-d/vitamin-d-toxicity/for symptoms of toxicity. If you are taking 100,000 IU/week, I suspect you are taking prescription D2. Here's a study on the efficacy of D3 and other forms. http://www.annals.org/content/155/10/JC5-04.full.pdf+html?maxtoshow= & hits=5 & RESULTFORMAT= & andorexacttitle=or & titleabstract=%2522vitamin+D%2522 & andorexacttitleabs=and & andorexactfulltext=and & searchid=1 & usestrictdates=yes & resourcetype=HWCIT & ct Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Brown I take 100,00UI per week. I dont think i notice any symptoms from it, but I had low calcium and low vit D, and high PTH. All straightened out when I cut back on the salty foods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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