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In a message dated 07/18/2000 8:37:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< I don't think that is to blame but when I did my basic this morning

without the roundhouse kicks I can feel my problems all over again and I just

got an adjustment last night. Any suggestions? Has anyone else had problems?

>>

not sure where your problem area is but it could be the speed?

or not keeping the abs contracted

alot of us have 's book " The Tae-Bo Way " which helps to avoid injury

with a section on what can cause various pains.

Please share specifically where your pain is

Barb

who has reoccurring problems but they are twinges instead of the spasms they

used to be

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In a message dated 07/18/2000 8:53:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< What other exercises that he does could cause

your hips to lose inches? >>

the floorwork is definitely even more effective than kicks

some Basics (#1 and 8, I think?) have floorwork

or you can get AL5 for floorwork too

and skip any that aggravate your problem

Barb

who could easily adapt to doing no kicks and just floorwork if necessary

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In a message dated 07/18/2000 10:52:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< The uppercuts are good for the hips when done in a good squatting position

too. These are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I

haven't done TB in awhile, but I'm sure there are others that work the hips

really well. >>

don't forget 's more recent additions of lunges too!!!!

Barb

who was the sorest after my first work-out including lunges

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In a message dated 07/18/2000 11:07:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

moriarit@... writes:

<< Can I get his book in any bookstore? That sounds like something I would

need to read. >>

yup and even the library!!!

Barb

who wonders if you have injured your hip at all?

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At 08:35 AM 07/18/2000, Janet wrote:

>Well, I think tae-bo just speed things along. I don't think that is to

>blame but when I did my basic this morning without the roundhouse kicks I

>can feel my problems all over again and I just got an adjustment last

>night. Any suggestions? Has anyone else had problems?

I've had problems, and my chiropractor said pretty much what you just

said. TaeBo doesn't cause the problems, but it can aggravate problems that

are already there. The kicks give my back a lot of trouble.

I was thinking that I may have to modify all my workouts from now on and

not do the kicks at all. That way I can still do my TaeBo and get the full

benefits without aggravating my back.

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I think from my measurements that I have lost about 3 inches from my hips.

I don't want to stop doing something that is helping me, but I can't be

hurting all the time either. What other exercises that he does could cause

your hips to lose inches?

Janet

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> At 08:35 AM 07/18/2000, Janet wrote:

> >Well, I think tae-bo just speed things along. I don't think that is to

> >blame but when I did my basic this morning without the roundhouse kicks I

> >can feel my problems all over again and I just got an adjustment last

> >night. Any suggestions? Has anyone else had problems?

>

> I've had problems, and my chiropractor said pretty much what you just

> said. TaeBo doesn't cause the problems, but it can aggravate problems

that

> are already there. The kicks give my back a lot of trouble.

>

> I was thinking that I may have to modify all my workouts from now on and

> not do the kicks at all. That way I can still do my TaeBo and get the

full

> benefits without aggravating my back.

>

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> Hi everyone. I have been doing tae-bo going on my fourth week now.

I have a question about injuries. I have had trouble in the past

with things getting out of wack and it had been about 5 months since

I

had been. I guess I really need to go at least once a month to keep

things in order. Well, I think tae-bo just speed things along. I

don't think that is to blame but when I did my basic this morning

without the roundhouse kicks I can feel my problems all over again

and

I just got an adjustment last night. Any suggestions? Has anyone

else had problems?

Janet, I don't know your specific physical problem, but I do know

that

several of us encountered physical problems when we started doing

taebo because our form wasn't correct. I had problems in my ankle

(until I started wearing better shoes), knee (until I made sure

that my knee on my supporting leg didn't extend over my toes), hips

(from not turning my knee out enough and trying to kick too high in

crescent kicks), and hamstrings (from not bending backwards on front

kicks). All the injuries went away once I corrected my form. I

highly recommend that you do the instructional tape whenever you

can and read 's book, the Taebo Way. It has great pictures

of the correct and wrong form. Good luck. By the way, I have a

lower back injury (I had surgery 10 years ago) and taebo has actually

relieved the pain and made me stronger. I hope that you can keep

doing taebo.

Elena

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>

The kicks give my back a lot of trouble.

>

> I was thinking that I may have to modify all my workouts from now

on

and

> not do the kicks at all. That way I can still do my TaeBo and get

the full

> benefits without aggravating my back.

>

> -- Sandy

Sandy, it's worth a try. My favorite kickboxing class doesn't have

any side or roundhouse kicks. We do some front kicks, but mostly

punching and knee raises. I get as a good, if not better (I know

that

sounds terrible, but it is a live class) workout in that class as I

do

from taebo. You can work your abs well doing upper body moves and

knee raises.

Elena

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> I think from my measurements that I have lost about 3 inches from

my

hips.

> I don't want to stop doing something that is helping me, but I

can't

be

> hurting all the time either. What other exercises that he does

could cause

> your hips to lose inches?

>

> Janet

What tapes do you have, Janet? I think some of the floor work

exercises will help your hips and, since you are on the floor, there

is less stress on the body.

Elena

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The only tapes I have right now are the basic studio set. I am only on the

basic tape.

Janet

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> > I think from my measurements that I have lost about 3 inches from

> my

> hips.

> > I don't want to stop doing something that is helping me, but I

> can't

> be

> > hurting all the time either. What other exercises that he does

> could cause

> > your hips to lose inches?

> >

> > Janet

>

> What tapes do you have, Janet? I think some of the floor work

> exercises will help your hips and, since you are on the floor, there

> is less stress on the body.

>

> Elena

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Janet

I agree with Elena's advice about form, it's very important esp if you

have problems. You also have to listen to your body more, and the

second it tells you it's not happy with a move modify or walk out the

rest of that set.

I've had problems with my back, shoulders and neck in recent years,

and have to be careful, even more so trying to do workouts first thing

when I am so very stiff, that's when I have to 'listen' the hardest.

Doing some experiments with moves might help you explore how

your body is feeling, and if then you can isolate the particular

movement that cause problems the chiro may be able to advise.

Jill

<<Janet, I don't know your specific physical problem, but I do know

that

several of us encountered physical problems when we started doing

taebo because our form wasn't correct. I had problems in my ankle

(until I started wearing better shoes), knee (until I made sure

that my knee on my supporting leg didn't extend over my toes), hips

(from not turning my knee out enough and trying to kick too high in

crescent kicks), and hamstrings (from not bending backwards on front

kicks). All the injuries went away once I corrected my form. I

highly recommend that you do the instructional tape whenever you

can and read 's book, the Taebo Way. It has great pictures

of the correct and wrong form. Good luck. By the way, I have a

lower back injury (I had surgery 10 years ago) and taebo has actually

relieved the pain and made me stronger. I hope that you can keep

doing taebo.

Elena >>

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In a message dated 7/18/00 12:40:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

diamonique@... writes:

<< Lunges are great for the hips & thighs. Unfortunately that's another

exercise that my knees won't allow me to do. I've never been able to do

those. >>

I felt something tearing in my left quad today while doing lunges! It still

feels a little sore, but I had the good sense to stop once I felt pain (a few

months ago I would have kept going!), so I don't think I did any damage. I

think I am going to skip lunges from now on!

:)

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At 09:29 AM 07/18/2000, Elena Carroll wrote:

>What tapes do you have, Janet? I think some of the floor work

>exercises will help your hips and, since you are on the floor, there

>is less stress on the body.

The squatting exercises work good on the hips, too. I don't know the names

of these exercises, so forgive me if the descriptions sound weird. You

know the one where you bend the knees slightly and step out to the side

and back/out to the side and back, and each time you move your foot out to

the side you also raise both arms to shoulder length with arms bent. This

works hamstrings, front thigh muscles, hips, and shoulders.

The uppercuts are good for the hips when done in a good squatting position

too. These are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I

haven't done TB in awhile, but I'm sure there are others that work the hips

really well.

-- Sandy

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At 08:35 AM 07/18/2000, you wrote:

>I don't think that is to blame but when I did my basic this morning

>without the roundhouse kicks I can feel my problems all over again and I

>just got an adjustment last night. Any suggestions? Has anyone else had

>problems?

It could be that you need to give the injured area a complete rest. Even

though you got an adjustment last night, that doesn't mean that all the

pain will be gone the next day. Chiro works over time.

Even though you haven't explained specifically where your pain is, you

sound a lot like I did when I started having back problems. I kept trying

to work out, and kept having pain. I finally had to stop altogether, and

it was months before I started working out again -- last week

actually. I'm now going to a chiropractor, but I know it will be months

before the treatments have completely fixed my problem, and I don't want to

aggravate it any further during that time. So I'm just going to stop

kicking.

If you know which specific exercise causes you pain, just don't do that one

at all. Do something else instead.

And I also agree with others who have said to go back to the instructional

tape. You'd be surprised how many problems are caused by doing the moves

incorrectly. 's book, The TaeBo Way, is perfect for showing exactly

what you're doing wrong. I *highly* recommend this book for everyone who

is doing TaeBo.

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Well, my pain is specifically in the pelvis area so basically " my butt " and

in my neck. Those are the areas that I have had trouble with in the past

couple years. I never had trouble and then my body had a " meltdown " a

couple years ago and chiropractor told me it was years worth. It happened

after I dug up a flower bed. I had to get rid of my waterbed and spent

$500.00 on a mattress (not including the boxspring). I just put the

mattress in our waterbed frame. So it would really be wise for me to go

every month for an adjustment, but I don't.

Can I get his book in any bookstore? That sounds like something I would

need to read.

Janet

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> In a message dated 07/18/2000 8:37:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

> moriarit@... writes:

>

> << I don't think that is to blame but when I did my basic this morning

> without the roundhouse kicks I can feel my problems all over again and I

just

> got an adjustment last night. Any suggestions? Has anyone else had

problems?

> >>

>

> not sure where your problem area is but it could be the speed?

> or not keeping the abs contracted

> alot of us have 's book " The Tae-Bo Way " which helps to avoid injury

> with a section on what can cause various pains.

> Please share specifically where your pain is

>

> Barb

> who has reoccurring problems but they are twinges instead of the spasms

they

> used to be

>

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At 11:05 AM 07/18/2000, Janet wrote:

>Can I get his book in any bookstore? That sounds like something I would

>need to read.

I'm sure you can pick it up at bookstores. Amazon.com and & Noble

(bn.com) have it too. It only costs around $12.95. Also, if you shop on

eBay, you can get it there pretty cheap.

Yes it is something you need to. IMO it's a *must*.

-- Sandy

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At 12:32 PM 07/18/2000, Horsemom2@... wrote:

>don't forget 's more recent additions of lunges too!!!!

Lunges are great for the hips & thighs. Unfortunately that's another

exercise that my knees won't allow me to do. I've never been able to do those.

-- Sandy

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> I think from my measurements that I have lost about 3 inches from

my hips.

> I don't want to stop doing something that is helping me, but I

can't be

> hurting all the time either. What other exercises that he does

could cause

> your hips to lose inches?

Janet,

Congratulations on the inches lost! That is so great! Any of the

floorwork will help you in the hip area. If you have the studio

advanced tape, you could slowly start adding some of the floorwork

into your workout! Also, does some standing ab work that is

good for the hips/butt.....like standing on your supporting leg and

keeping your other leg straight out to the side and lifting it up,

while bringing the arm down to meet the leg. That one works the abs

and the butt/hip area!

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> I felt something tearing in my left quad today while doing lunges!

It still

> feels a little sore, but I had the good sense to stop once I felt

pain (a few

> months ago I would have kept going!), so I don't think I did any

damage. I

> think I am going to skip lunges from now on!

> :)

Me, too, . I hurt my knee a while back doing lunges with our

TBTV tape. It's fine now, but I don't want to risk (especially since

I need to be healthy for California!). I'm glad you were careful and

hope you didn't injure yourself.

Elena

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>I felt something tearing in my left quad today while doing lunges! It still

>feels a little sore, but I had the good sense to stop once I felt pain (a

few

>months ago I would have kept going!), so I don't think I did any damage. I

>think I am going to skip lunges from now on!

>:)

, I am thinking you had bad form or you were doing them too fast

(which would lead to bad form) and maybe if you do them nice and slow you

could keep them up. Lunges are the BEST for the old butt! Also, I don't

go all the way down to the ground with the knee... " modify " .

Joya

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Hi!

I have back & knee problems myself, but so far haven't had *much* trouble with

Taebo, but

I have 3 suggestions:

1. Ask your chiropractor for suggestions--let him know what you're doing & what

moves are

giving you problems..

2. Modify

3. Don't give up--just do what you can & walk through rest!

Genie

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> Hi everyone. I have been doing tae-bo going on my fourth week now. I have a

question

about injuries. I have had trouble in the past with things getting out of wack

and it had been

about 5 months since I had been. I guess I really need to go at least once a

month to keep

things in order. Well, I think tae-bo just speed things along. I don't think

that is to blame but

when I did my basic this morning without the roundhouse kicks I can feel my

problems all

over again and I just got an adjustment last night. Any suggestions? Has

anyone else had

problems?

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In a message dated 7/18/00 7:52:16 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

diamonique@... writes:

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know the one where you bend the knees slightly and step out to the side

and back/out to the side and back, and each time you move your foot out to

the side you also raise both arms to shoulder length with arms bent. >>

I believe you are talking about the " fly " ?

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At 03:31 AM 07/19/00, cookcut@... wrote:

>I believe you are talking about the " fly " ?

That sounds right. I never knew a name for that one, but the fly is perfect.

-- Sandy

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