Re: Re: Treating OCD and ADHD with Bio-Med

[Guest guest]

I do. I am working on several protocols for my son's OCD, autism, ADHD, you name

it.

First of all, through various tests done by our immunologist/allergist also a

DAN doctor,

we learned that my son's OCD, and most of autism symptoms are from yeast

overgrowthin in his GI, strep bacterial and candidas bacterial infection, maybe

virual infection in his brain.

This doctor hates to use pharma medication to treat these problem. He prescribed

me Olive Leaf Extract ( anti-bacterial, anti-virual and anti-fungal agent) to

clean up strep, also grapefruit seed extract and caprylic acid ( from coconut

oil) to clean up yeast, probiotic ( beneficial bacteria) to balance GI

envrionment, plus we also do methalyation pathway repair, mercury/lead

chelation.

Now, you ask me what are these to do with OCD?

Strep infection may damage a child's brain function, called PANDAS ( Pedriatric

Autoimmune Nuero Dysfunction Associate with Strep Infection), and the very first

or classic symptom is OCD, along with tic, irritability, hyperactivity...

In the other word, when we found out our children have OCD, we take them to

psych, but these psych only prescribe drugs to supress or band-aid symptom, but

they don't run test such as urine test, blood work, even stool sample, food

allergy panel, hair test for toxic metal level, therefore, they never know what

cause a child OCD, or hyperactivity, or tic.

For example, a child who has low cholesteral may suffer hyperactivity,

aggitation, anxiety. How many of psych run cholesteral test on your child.

Another example, if your child is allergic to gluten protein in wheat product,

it will create high level of OCD.

If your child is having very high oxalate, it cause intensive OCD, hyperness as

well. ( High oxalate comes from poor or low metablism function, or wrong type of

food, or lack or B6, selenium...)

If your child is loaded with candidas bacteria, strep, or yeast, this child is

definitely stimming all the time, OCD, can't sit still. Yeast and bacteria often

release a lot of toxin to brain and interrup transmittor functions... how many

of your psych knows about the relation of autoimmun dysfucntion will affect

neuro-brain function....

Lastly, your child may have too much aluminum ( from aluminum cookware, or

water..), or mercury ( from infanthood vaccines or dental fillings, or tuna), or

lead...these toxins are definitely the root cause of any inbalance hormone,

neurtransmittor dysfunction, nuerological dysfunction....

 

Check out two other groups at yahoo. One is called MB12Veltrax, and

mercury-autism... you will find a lot of resources, information on bio-med

treatments, which these huge rich pharmacuitical companies don't want you to

know about there are cure and treatment for your children besides taking meds.

Also, start from the root cause, rid of the root cause, raise a really healthy

child with holistic, safe and honest treatments. On these two groups, you will

learn a lot of these info, meet a lot of veteran, prioneer parents, scientist,

doctors, homeopathy therapists, protocols and protocols... It is fruitful and

again this is something pharmacuitical companies don't want to talk about in

order to keep their stocks in shape.

 

Rei

 

From: Donna on <advance_arch@ yahoo.com>

Subject: Re: OCD and ADHD

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 11:07 AM

Hi Peggy,

I haven't tried this yet but others in the group have recommended some of the

products from Native Remedies. You could go to their website and read about them

and see if they might be worth trying. Just a thought.

Good luck and let us know if you have any success with them.

Donna

Posted by: " PeggySue Gillard " peggy_loves_ timothyyahoo (DOT) com peggy_loves_

timothy

Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:33 am (PDT)

If anyone is treating their children with adhd through natural remedies please

let me know because I have been contemplating it for quite sometime and like

Jenn Said I do not want to agitate my daughter any more than I have to and with

the possiblity of making her ocd worse with the adhd medications, even just a

possibility, I refuse! 4 weeks in a childrens psychiatric ward

[Guest guest]

What are your child's OCD symptoms?

Re: Re: Treating OCD and ADHD with Bio-Med

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 8:08 AM

Hi Rei,

I have always felt this may be the cause of my son's OCD, because it came on

" out of the blue " after having strep several times and having his tonsils

removed. I wish I could find a DAN doctor. I cann

ot even get my son's psychaitrist to order any tests. I wanted an MRI and an EEG

and EKG done on my son as well as tests for thyroid and blood glucose. The

doctor won't run any. I t definitely would make sense to have him tested for

these things first. The metabolic problems could also definitely cause these

behaviors like you  described. A friend of mine's son who is 6 has all these

behaviors, which she found out is from hypoglycemia. The doctors wanted this kid

on all types of psychiatric meds which thankfully she refused.

My son has been on 9 different psychiatric drugs and he will be 7 on thursday. I

feel very neglectful and disgusted that I let these doctors put my son on all

these meds. Do you know if any doctors that are not DAN doctors would perform

any of the tests you mentioned?

My daughter also has OCD and they gave her an MRI, as well as an EKG, but this

was only after being hospitalized and I had to fight  for it.

 

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy, I am not a doctor and I can't tell you if your girl's condition is

cause by strep or any other bacteria. Why don't you google PANDAS first and read

all the symptoms and see if it fit your dd's.

Also, dont' forget to check toxic metal. Studies shows that schizophrenia,

alzheimer, autism, ADHA, bipolar patients all have high level of mercury. think

about all the baby vaccines, flu shots you have given to your child, these shots

most likely has mercury in it as preservative, plus dental filling has mercury,

tuna fish from can has mercury... so you also need to search mercury

intoxification symptoms... now, these are two possible root cause of your dd's

mental health. I believe a lot of mental health issues are related to

environemental issue, also related to our diet, what we eat..

Also ,check in the beef, chicken you feed yoru child, a lot of them already

loaded with hormones, anti-biotic in the meat, so when your child has a lot of

them accumilate over yeasrs and years, it may effect the balance of your child's

hormone, nuerotransmittors...

You may also run food allergy panel, see if she is allergic to certain food. For

example, mercury poisin cause my son's pancreas not function right, so he can't

tolerate wheat, rice, watermelon... you name it, everytime, he eats certain

amount of wheat products, he gets stimming, more OCD, and can't sit still, if I

take wheat product and dairy off his diet entirely, he can sit on the cool bench

for hours reading his sunday newspapers... ( he likes ot read car dearlership

ads)

 

So, check in if she has any chronic virus, bacteria, yeast infection. (these

three guys will contribute neurological disorder or dysfunction in some way),

and check if there is any toxic metal, food or element allergy... Now, we are

talking working with your DD not just in neurological path, also working on her

immune system, metablism.. whole body ecology, feed her clean, safe, non-toxic

food and water, rid of food that she can't tolerate...

 

From: jchabot <jchabotsnet (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: Re: Treating OCD and ADHD with Bio-Med

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 8:08 AM

Hi Rei,

I have always felt this may be the cause of my son's OCD, because it came on

" out of the blue " after having strep several times and having his tonsils

removed. I wish I could find a DAN doctor. I cannot even get my son's

psychaitrist to order any tests. I wanted an MRI and an EEG and EKG done on my

son as well as tests for thyroid and blood glucose. The doctor won't run any. I

t definitely would make sense to have him tested for these things first. The

metabolic problems could also definitely cause these behaviors like you 

described. A friend of mine's son who is 6 has all these behaviors, which she

found out is from hypoglycemia. The doctors wanted this kid on all types of

psychiatric meds which thankfully she refused.

My son has been on 9 different psychiatric drugs and he will be 7 on thursday. I

feel very neglectful and disgusted that I let these doctors put my son on all

these meds. Do you know if any doctors that are not DAN doctors would perform

any of the tests you mentioned?

My daughter also has OCD and they gave her an MRI, as well as an EKG, but this

was only after being hospitalized and I had to fight  for it.

 

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Search Andy H Cutler protocol about mercury illness, you will be amazed. Not

here to argue, I am here to learn more about OCD, but I also like to share our

success of treating OCD from the other side of world.

 

From: Donna on <advance_arch@ yahoo.com>

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Subject: Re: OCD and ADHD

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 11:07 AM

Hi Peggy,

I haven't tried this yet but others in the group have recommended some of the

products from Native Remedies. You could go to their website and read about them

and see if they might be worth trying. Just a thought.

Good luck and let us know if you have any success with them.

Donna

Posted by: " PeggySue Gillard " peggy_loves_ timothyyahoo (DOT) com peggy_loves_

timothy

Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:33 am (PDT)

If anyone is treating their children with adhd through natural remedies please

let me know because I have been contemplating it for quite sometime and like

Jenn Said I do not want to agitate my daughter any more than I have to and with

the possiblity of making her ocd worse with the adhd medications, even just a

possibility, I refuse! 4 weeks in a childrens psychiatric ward

[Guest guest]

By the way,  If you want to call certain disease is genetic, think about mercury

can be passed on generation by generation through the mother's wombs..

 

Study on your own first, type ask.com, google.com you will see tones of medical

studies showing mercury intoxification illness symptoms all the way to 1950 to

nowaday. Of course, now we have better ways to chelate or detox these tough

toxin.

 

From: jchabot <jchabotsnet (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: Re: Treating OCD and ADHD with Bio-Med

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 8:08 AM

Hi Rei,

I have always felt this may be the cause of my son's OCD, because it came on

" out of the blue " after having strep several times and having his tonsils

removed. I wish I could find a DAN doctor. I cann

ot even get my son's psychaitrist to order any tests. I wanted an MRI and an EEG

and EKG done on my son as well as tests for thyroid and blood glucose. The

doctor won't run any. I t definitely would make sense to have him tested for

these things first. The metabolic problems could also definitely cause these

behaviors like you  described. A friend of mine's son who is 6 has all these

behaviors, which she found out is from hypoglycemia. The doctors wanted this kid

on all types of psychiatric meds which thankfully she refused.

My son has been on 9 different psychiatric drugs and he will be 7 on thursday. I

feel very neglectful and disgusted that I let these doctors put my son on all

these meds. Do you know if any doctors that are not DAN doctors would perform

any of the tests you mentioned?

My daughter also has OCD and they gave her an MRI, as well as an EKG, but this

was only after being hospitalized and I had to fight  for it.

 

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

My daughter has never had a flu shot, never had a dental filling, never tasted

tuna, etc.  She just doesn't have the kind of mercury exposure that you are

talking about. She has a twin brother who is exposed to all the same

environmental things as she.  She has pretty severe OCD and my son doesn't.  I

have battled severe OCD all my life and my grandmother had generalized anxiety

that was horrendous.  Clearly she inherited this disorder as did I.  

Re: OCD and ADHD

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 11:07 AM

Hi Peggy,

I haven't tried this yet but others in the group have recommended some of the

products from Native Remedies. You could go to their website and read about them

and see if they might be worth trying. Just a thought.

Good luck and let us know if you have any success with them.

Donna

Posted by: " PeggySue Gillard " peggy_loves_ timothyyahoo (DOT) com peggy_loves_

timothy

Sun Sep 21, 2008 11:33 am (PDT)

If anyone is treating their children with adhd through natural remedies please

let me know because I have been contemplating it for quite sometime and like

Jenn Said I do not want to agitate my daughter any more than I have to and with

the possiblity of making her ocd worse with the adhd medications, even just a

possibility, I refuse! 4 weeks in a childrens psychiatric ward

[Guest guest]

My twins were in the same womb.  One has OCD and one is a happy go lucky kid.

 Genetics doesn't mean through the womb, but through the DNA.  

Re: Re: Treating OCD and ADHD with Bio-Med

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 8:08 AM

Hi Rei,

I have always felt this may be the cause of my son's OCD, because it came on

" out of the blue " after having strep several times and having his tonsils

removed. I wish I could find a DAN doctor. I cann

ot even get my son's psychaitrist to order any tests. I wanted an MRI and an EEG

and EKG done on my son as well as tests for thyroid and blood glucose. The

doctor won't run any. I t definitely would make sense to have him tested for

these things first. The metabolic problems could also definitely cause these

behaviors like you  described. A friend of

mine's son who is 6 has all these behaviors, which she found out is from

hypoglycemia. The doctors wanted this kid on all types of psychiatric meds which

thankfully she refused.

My son has been on 9 different psychiatric drugs and he will be 7 on thursday. I

feel very neglectful and disgusted that I let these doctors put my son on all

these meds. Do you know if any doctors that are not DAN doctors would perform

any of the tests you mentioned?

My daughter also has OCD and they gave her an MRI, as well as an EKG, but this

was only after being hospitalized and I had to fight  for it.

 

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Thank you Rei,

I am going to look into this. It's worth a shot! The meds my son are on, are

not working anyway, so why have him on them? He has been on so many with only a

partial response for a short period of time.

Hugs

judy 

From: jchabot <jchabotsnet (DOT) net>

Subject: Re: Re: Treating OCD and ADHD with Bio-Med

To: @ yahoogroups. com

Date: Tuesday, September 23, 2008, 7:08 AM

Hi Rei,

I have always felt this may be the cause of my son's OCD, because it came on

" out of the blue " after having strep several times and having his tonsils

removed. I wish I could find a DAN doctor. I cannot even get my son's

psychaitrist to order any tests. I wanted an MRI and an EEG and EKG done on my

son as well as tests for thyroid and blood glucose. The doctor won't run any. I

t definitely would make sense to have him tested for these things first. The

metabolic problems could also definitely cause these behaviors like you 

described. A friend of mine's son who is 6 has all these behaviors, which she

found out is from hypoglycemia. The doctors wanted this kid on all types of

psychiatric meds which thankfully she refused.

My son has been on 9 different psychiatric drugs and he will be 7 on thursday. I

feel very neglectful and disgusted that I let these doctors put my son on all

these meds. Do you know if any doctors that are not DAN doctors would perform

any of the tests you mentioned?

My daughter also has OCD and they gave her an MRI, as well as an EKG, but this

was only after being hospitalized and I had to fight  for it.

 

Hugs

Judy

[Guest guest]

Hi BJ,

Different forms of autism , like Pervasive Developmental Disorder can at times

mimic OCD. My daughter has been diagnosed with that also. Many children with

PDD-NOS will have stereotyped movements that can mimic OCD obsessions and

compulsions.

It's so intertwined, it's almost impossible to tell the difference,if that is

the child's only symptom .

Hugs

Judy

Subject: Re: Treating OCD and ADHD with Bio-Med

To:

Date: Friday, September 26, 2008, 1:19 PM

You saw this differently from me, Chris. When I read the post, I saw

it that she was saying his autism was OCD. Which to me, didn't make

sense.

You saw it that he has autism, but it has OC behaviors? So does that

mean, there is not actual OCD involved? But, that the autism can

produce obsessions and compulsions? I don't know much about autism,

so was curious if that was what you meant and/or if that is a symptom

of some autism.

Thanks,

BJ

> >

> > Judy, if you want to learn more about chronic strep infection cause

> neurological disorder such as OCD, bipolar... you can sign on MB12

> Veltrax group at yahoo.

> > Parents on the group will share what tests we ran to find out if

>