Re: Spironlactone - Are you Crazy?

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Sounds like "something' (agent orange?) decided to attack your endocrine system and found the glands a delicious meal. Was your thyroid okay or have there been some issues or suspicions with the thyroid that may have slid under the radar given your other issues? That would give you thyroid, pancreas, adrenals, and have you considered the salivary/parotid glands in that bunch?

I share the dry mouth issue with you. I figured it was the spiro, but I can't seem to solve it. I am just always sucking on candy which helps but a little..

the salivary

Subject: Re: Spironlactone - Are you Crazy?To: hyperaldosteronism Date: Wednesday, December 21, 2011, 5:57 PM

, I realized this morning as I was installing my teeth that I missed a couple:T2DM - This is under discussion and I may never know. In talking w/Dr. Grim it could very well have exaserbated the problem. Agent Orange is also an issue. I was labeled pre-diabetic after starting with the VA and got the full DX a couple years later.Oral Health - Dry Mouth and side effects of all the unnecesary meds caused my mouth to get so bad that I had to have all my teeth extracted last June. My dentist had never seen such a bad case, I always had a bottle of water and tongue often looked like piece of dry leather! I used the Biotene products and chewed alot of Trident gum (anything with xylitol which she contends fights dental disease.), I'm looking for your reaction. Even if you disgree, you can't hurt my feelings! Thanks....> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt;> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; We have had some discussions regarding doctors treating us for psychological problems or at least considering it an issue for us. I was preparing for an Endocrinology discussion tomorrow, no med change in another week. I did a search on "spironolactone and pituitary" (for my month+ long headache) and came across this article/study. Thought it

might be interesting to some.> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; I plan to send to my psyco docs for their impression also.> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Source: http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v32/n1/abs/1301217a.html> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Original Article> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 232â€"238. doi:10.1038/sj.npp.1301217; published online 11 October 2006> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Clinical Research> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Blockade of the Mineralocorticoid Receptor in Healthy Men: Effects on Experimentally Induced Panic Symptoms, Stress Hormones, and Cognition> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Christian Otte1, Steffen Moritz1, Yassouridis2, Maike Koop1, Ana Madrischewski1, Klaus Wiedemann1 and Kellner1> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; 1Department of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy, University Hospital Hamburg-Eppendorf, Hamburg, Germany> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; 2Department of Biostatistics, Max Planck Institute of Psychiatry, Munich, Germany> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; "In summary, we found that blockade of MR with spironolactone in healthy men impairs several aspects of cognition, particularly selective

attention, visuospatial memory, and set shifting/mental flexibility but did not affect symptoms of panic, anxiety and arousal after a challenge with CCK-4."> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Wonder if they only tested men because they felt women were too psyco normaly!!!! (Just kidding ladies but send your hate mail anywy! ; & gt;))> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

MG.> > > > & gt; & gt; & gt;> > > > & gt; & gt; > > > > & gt; & gt;> > > > & gt;> >>

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I have an " Agent Orange Registery Exam " scheduled for Feb. and they are supposed

to check everything known to be affected. As I understand it, it is next to

impossible to claim something if it is not on the list. HOW IN HELL WOULD THEY

GET PA ON THE LIST IF THEY MISS-DXing IT 98% OF THE TIME! (oops, I may have

displayed my emotion!)

I'll print this out so I'll know what to ask PCP to run in March if they miss

anything in Feb. Thanks.

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 133/74 HR 58

BS 123

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg aspirin,

Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; We have had some discussions regarding doctors treating us

for psychological problems or at least considering it an issue for us. I was

preparing for an Endocrinology discussion tomorrow, no med change in another

week. I did a search on " spironolactone and pituitary " (for my month+ long

headache) and came across this article/study. Thought it might be interesting to

some.

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > >

> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; I plan to send to my psyco docs for their impression also.

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http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v32/n1/abs/1301217a.html

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt;

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Original Article

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 232†" 238.

doi:10.1038/sj.npp.1301217; published online 11 October 2006

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Clinical Research

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Blockade of the Mineralocorticoid Receptor in Healthy Men:

Effects on Experimentally Induced Panic Symptoms, Stress Hormones, and Cognition

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt;

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Christian Otte1, Steffen Moritz1, Yassouridis2,

Maike Koop1, Ana Madrischewski1, Klaus Wiedemann1 and Kellner1

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; 1Department of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy, University

Hospital Hamburg-Eppendorf, Hamburg, Germany

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; 2Department of Biostatistics, Max Planck Institute of

Psychiatry, Munich, Germany

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; " In summary, we found that blockade of MR with

spironolactone in healthy men impairs several aspects of cognition, particularly

selective attention, visuospatial memory, and set shifting/mental flexibility

but did not affect symptoms of panic, anxiety and arousal after a challenge with

CCK-4. "

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> > > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > >

> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Wonder if they only tested men because they felt women were

too psyco normaly!!!! (Just kidding ladies but send your hate mail anywy!

; & gt;))

> > >

> > > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> > >

> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week

ave): 131/76 HR 60

> > >

> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19,

DM2, and PTSD.

> > >

> > > & gt; & gt; & gt; Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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Everyone nearly per diabetic. Eat enough And walla!May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

, I realized this morning as I was installing my teeth that I missed a couple:

T2DM - This is under discussion and I may never know. In talking w/Dr. Grim it could very well have exaserbated the problem. Agent Orange is also an issue. I was labeled pre-diabetic after starting with the VA and got the full DX a couple years later.

Oral Health - Dry Mouth and side effects of all the unnecesary meds caused my mouth to get so bad that I had to have all my teeth extracted last June. My dentist had never seen such a bad case, I always had a bottle of water and tongue often looked like piece of dry leather! I used the Biotene products and chewed alot of Trident gum (anything with xylitol which she contends fights dental disease.)

, I'm looking for your reaction. Even if you disgree, you can't hurt my feelings! Thanks....

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; We have had some discussions regarding doctors treating us for psychological problems or at least considering it an issue for us. I was preparing for an Endocrinology discussion tomorrow, no med change in another week. I did a search on "spironolactone and pituitary" (for my month+ long headache) and came across this article/study. Thought it might be interesting to some.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; I plan to send to my psyco docs for their impression also.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Source: http://www.nature.com/npp/journal/v32/n1/abs/1301217a.html

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Original Article

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Neuropsychopharmacology (2007) 32, 232â€"238. doi:10.1038/sj.npp.1301217; published online 11 October 2006

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Clinical Research

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Blockade of the Mineralocorticoid Receptor in Healthy Men: Effects on Experimentally Induced Panic Symptoms, Stress Hormones, and Cognition

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Christian Otte1, Steffen Moritz1, Yassouridis2, Maike Koop1, Ana Madrischewski1, Klaus Wiedemann1 and Kellner1

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; 1Department of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy, University Hospital Hamburg-Eppendorf, Hamburg, Germany

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; 2Department of Biostatistics, Max Planck Institute of Psychiatry, Munich, Germany

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; "In summary, we found that blockade of MR with spironolactone in healthy men impairs several aspects of cognition, particularly selective attention, visuospatial memory, and set shifting/mental flexibility but did not affect symptoms of panic, anxiety and arousal after a challenge with CCK-4."

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Wonder if they only tested men because they felt women were too psyco normaly!!!! (Just kidding ladies but send your hate mail anywy! ; & gt;))

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt;

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

> >

> > & gt; & gt; & gt; Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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