Re: Switching from spiro to inspra?s Attn: Dr. Grim

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I will be setting up a practice in s lake Tahoe and can help then. NY good Endo knows that it takes 2 x as much inspra. DASHING will allow u to cut the dose of either by 10 fold but no one has prob told u that. Give us your detailed story. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Hi Dr Grim

What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose, I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

Sincerely

ita Vallejo

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I'm surprise that Spiro just " stopped working " after 5 years! (Is that

something I have to look forward to?) Begs the question, How's your Salt(NA) as

reported by a Urine test? (The answer to this may have a large bearing on how

mich Inspra you will need!)

If PA is not well controlled it often affect glucose control!

- 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank &

testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since

Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > Hi Dr Grim

> > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped workng for me

again and instead of switching brands, i started taking inspra. I am, finding

out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms are catching up to me and I need alot

more of inspra.

> > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the background now. Dr.

GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who saw 14 endos in Sacramento with

no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago

it was from high glucose, I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my

energy back now and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

> >

> > Sincerely

> > ita Vallejo

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Diabetes will go away with DASH MCB and ur WT loss. Keep up the good work. Are u sure u are not out-salting the Spiro?Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Hi Dr Grim

What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose, I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

Sincerely

ita Vallejo

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I been on spiro since 2006,When you told me what i had. Labs proved it later. I

have nodes on my adrenals, the right has a 1.7 x 1.2 cm getting bigger slowly

with time, the left is smaler and remains unchanged. I had AVS in 2006 which was

a disaster with no results. Sprio the other brand quit working after about 2 1/2

years. This is my 3rd brand switch on spiro now i am asking for name brand with

Pfizer. Since there are only 2 meds on earth for this. Brand name Spiro is my

back up plan if Inspra does not work out. This is my second try with inspra as

well.

Dr. Grim My sodium is 137 with a range of 135-145

Potassium is 4.1 range 3.3-5.0

No one knows anything about Conns let alone the meds to treat.

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> > Hi Dr Grim

> > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped workng for me

again and instead of switching brands, i started taking inspra. I am, finding

out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms are catching up to me and I need alot

more of inspra.

> > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the background now. Dr.

GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who saw 14 endos in Sacramento with

no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago

it was from high glucose, I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my

energy back now and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

> >

> > Sincerely

> > ita Vallejo

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What are MCBs?????????

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> > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped workng for

me again and instead of switching brands, i started taking inspra. I am, finding

out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms are catching up to me and I need alot

more of inspra.

> > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the background now.

Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who saw 14 endos in Sacramento

with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado county. I was getting real sick 2 year

ago it was from high glucose, I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my

energy back now and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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> > > > Sincerely

> > > > ita Vallejo

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What is out salting?

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> > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms

> > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who

> > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado

> > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose,

> > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now

> > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

> > > >

> > > > Sincerely

> > > > ita Vallejo

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Was hoping would jump in here but he's probably snuggling that new little

one!

MCB is Mineralocorticoid Receptor Blocker (Spironlactone & Epleronone are the

only two I believe and are used to treat PA).

Outsalting is the term we use when one is consuming too much salt (NA) in their

diet. In this condition the MCB will NOT work. There are many sources of

sodium so one should always read the label (1500 is the magic number we look

for!) A Urine test for NA will tell how you are doing.

- 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank &

testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since

Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms

> > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who

> > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado

> > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose,

> > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now

> > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

> > > > >

> > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > ita Vallejo

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Oh I know all that. I dont eat food out of boxes all that stuff is bad.

Everything I eat is made from scratch except for a few things. Like whole wheat

bread and canned no salt whole tomatoe, or tuna. I dont eat processed food.

Never have. I grow vegetables. I have had a salt problem for 20 years. Saw 10

endos they were killing me slowly what a bunch of losers. I found dr. Grim he

knew what was wrong with me in a instant he saved my life. been on spiro since

2006

I know exactly how much salt i consume. If I dont watch it I will be so sick

with head aces and more. I am the sodium police. But I will do a spot urine

sodium test next time I am at the dr. office. The problem was I just get used to

spiro switch brands and every thing goes back to normal. This time I switched to

Inspra and so far so good since I doubled it up, I seem to need 200mg Inspra and

feeling better again. Thanks for the input ita

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> > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms

> > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who

> > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado

> > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose,

> > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now

> > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > ita Vallejo

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Be sure and read the labels on bread (even " healthy whole grain " stuff is often

a salt bomb) and canned tuna. I was surprised to find that a serving - which is

only *half* a can - has 250mg sodium.

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> > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms

> > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who

> > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado

> > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose,

> > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now

> > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > > ita Vallejo

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I guess we need to take a step backwards and come to a common understanding.

You say " after 2 1/2 years spiro was no longer working " . How did you determine

this? BP? Other symptoms like pain, weakness, frequent peeing, etc. Testing

results? All meds you are on? In other words, we need your complete story!

You say you had an AVS in 2006 that " was a disaster with no result " . Does that

mean they botched the test and was unsuccessful administering it? Were the

results inconclusive? Usually you get a report and Dr. Grim can tell you real

quick if it was successful!

You indicate the node in your right adrenal is getting bigger. How did they

determine this and what is the rate of growth?

The reason I ask all this is because I have lived the story. I started on Spiro

and BP corrected immediately. It then took over 10 months to get NA low enough

to eliminate the associated pain and frequent peeing. I didn't understand that

NA had to be tested in Urine so I was watching blood tests! (I swore up and

down I was " low salt " but the body said NO!)

If you come at us with that kind of info someone will have an answer!

- 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank &

testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since

Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms

> > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who

> > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado

> > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose,

> > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now

> > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > > ita Vallejo

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Depending on brand bread can have 100 to 200 MG sodium of per slice If you make

a tuna sandwitch you most likey add mayo to the tuna so that adds 100 mg sodium.

What do you drink with it even water has some sodium in it Some places water can

have 100 MG sodium. So tuna lunch can add 850 MG sodium.

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> > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My symptoms

> > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady who

> > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in Eldorado

> > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high glucose,

> > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now

> > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and dandy.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > > > ita Vallejo

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And look at serving size and add up the sodium in how many serving you eat.

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> > > > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > > > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady

who

> > > > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > > > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > > > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> > > > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > > > > > ita Vallejo

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WOW, I now know what a " disaster " is, sorry you had to go through it.

I'm going to leave the detailed DXing to the experts as you are way out of my

league, especially when you throw in thyroid meds. I will tell you that a lot

of your SXs sound like what was going on with me during the 10 months when Spiro

was " half working " !

- 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank &

testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since

Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady

who

> > > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back now

> > > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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> > > > > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > > > > ita Vallejo

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LOL there are no leagues here. There really are no experts on this just #1 dr.

Grim. No one in north calif or Sacramento, or UC of knows nothing.Even

some creap dr. in san francisco who studied with dr. grim would not give me the

time of day or a appointment. I was seen by 9 endos and was croking off, one

more week and I would have been in a wheel chair. Then dr. Grim sent me a limb

and pulled me out of the swamp from this news group. He is a amazing person. It

was a miracle to finely meet an Endo with smarts. I picked out my medications

from his drug list after I researched them as to what I needed besids spiro. I

do have a PNP that prescribs all my meds for me. I have a endo down at UC in sac

but he is so in the dark and refused to call dr. GRim and learn a few things. HE

is good for my yearly cat scan and labs every 4 months. So how long have you

been suffering and what is taking half the spiro? Do tell? J

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> > > > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > > > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady

who

> > > > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > > > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > > > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> > > > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely

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Aren't you from a country other than the U.S.? Hard to know what the

requirements and laws are in your country. Often we assume (makes an ASS out of

U and ME) that laws of the US are the laws of the world!

- 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank &

testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since

Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> >> > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> >> > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> >> > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> >> > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> >> > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> >> > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> >> > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady

who

> >> > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> >> > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> >> > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> >> > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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Let me start with the Spiro question. I was taking ALL the Spiro, all 25mg bid

which is the same dose I am on today! I had a very specific pain in my right

flank that radiated to my right testis. I was on Narcotics to try and contain

this pain. When I started Spiro my BP dropped into the 115ish/65ish range but

the pain and frequent peeing continued (This was July 2010.) They had found a

12x13mm adnoma in my right adrenal and I was convinced it was the root of my

pain issue. Fast forward to Feb. this year and I found this site. Dr. Grim

assured me Meds and DASH often accomplishes the same as removal but I wasn't

convinced so I continued to " press on " toward surgery. I was titrating off 7 BP

meds and meeting with a surgeon, actually he had just given me a green light,

when on Apr. 23d the pain suddenly went away! Peeing every hour or two during

the day went to every 5-6 hours! Peeing at night went from 3-4 times a night to

zero in 8 or more hours! I now sleep, uninterrupted, 8 or more hours a night

and the list goes on!

That is when I learned the term " outsalting Spiro. " , that is what Dr. G. told

me when I asked " if Spiro had a second gear " . That flank pain will start to

return if I misbehave and have too much NA! I know then I need to watch my

salt! That is where I was wondering if you might be, right on the edge of

outsalting the MCB you are on. msmith and I discussed salt sensitivity and Dr.

G. says everybody is salt sensitive. I know we use 1500 as a goal for low salt

but I don't believe that is a 'ONE SIZE FITS ALL " ! I think we have to each find

our own magic number - some have to pee into a bottle and I am " Lucky " to have

my own built-in indicator, my flank pain.

I didn't want to try DXing your case because I don't know anything about thyroid

issues, not that I couldn't research it a little, but I felt Dr. Grim could

address it much much better! I have done alot of researching of my specifics in

the last 6 months. Being retired with 27 years in computers is an advantage for

that.

My story up to this spring is in our files under 's Story or something like

that if you want all the " gory detail " ! (I still have to update some of the

lstest progress.)

- 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank &

testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since

Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro

stoped

> > > > > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > > > > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the

lady who

> > > > > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > > > > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > > > > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> > > > > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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Don't know where Wall Mart gets their label but Nutrition Facts tells me sodium

is 100mg/half a bird. (http://www.nutrientfacts.com/) They didn't have a low

serving size by any chance did they?

BTW, hope your cholesterol is good! (Cholesterol 170mg 60%)

- 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank &

testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since

Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > >> > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > >> > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro

stoped

> > >> > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > >> > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > >> > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > >> > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > >> > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the

lady who

> > >> > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > >> > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > >> > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> > >> > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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> > >> > > > > > > > Sincerely

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Natalia, please read this article. You may want to consider buying your meat

elsewhere:

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/dining/09well.html

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> > >> > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > >> > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro

stoped

> > >> > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > >> > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > >> > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > >> > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > >> > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the

lady who

> > >> > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > >> > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > >> > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> > >> > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

> > >> > > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > > > Sincerely

> > >> > > > > > > > ita Vallejo

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AVS was 5 years ago. My bp now is 114/67 with a pulse of 63 after sitting for 5

minutes. I dont know why i wrote wrong bp last nite. I am feeling much better

since i doubled up the Inspra I am takeing 400mg inspra,100 atenolol,5 mg

benexpril. I can feel the inspra working, sending the tide back. I took not

enough for 3 weeks. Spiro quit working on swelling and then i would take more

and get low bp. I am wondering since Inspra might work better for me, I wont

need atenolol or as much. But every time i lay of antenolo i get my 102 pulse

back. I am going to taper down a little. Then the benazpril I only take 5mg for

the tight chest.The rapid heart beat was the first weard symptom that started

back in 2004.

Now about they thyroid I used to take T3 but it would agravate my condition

befor i knew i had conn's. I know take synthroid T4. Any way thyroid meds send

my adrenals in a over active state very easly. I have to be blocked real good.

When I had my adrenals surpressed with cortif I could take thyroid medicine with

no side effects what so ever. But I was not adrenal insufficient just because

the aldo gave me a very dark tan, I was thought to have addisons.but didnt.

ita

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> > > > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > > > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady

who

> > > > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > > > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > > > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> > > > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely

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I read you story . Sounds like you have been through the mill with dr.s not

knowing. I have found taking the max of spiro works best as long as you can

stand up, feel good, it gets rid of the misery.

I had the Professor of Endo at UCD in SAcramento tell me there was nothing wrong

and those are lab errors. That was when my thyroid went kaput after getting

cured of hep c on interferon. I couldnt drive and was passing out and would not

wake up very quickly , i didnt know what year it was of hand either. I had no

thyroid hormone in my blood on the labs, but it was lab errors. I dont pay much

attention to certain medical individules, LOL Make your own decisions and do

your research.

ita

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> > > > > > > > > > Hi Dr Grim

> > > > > > > > > > What is the ratio of inspra compared to spiro?. Spiro stoped

> > > > > > > > workng for me again and instead of switching brands, i started

> > > > > > > > taking inspra. I am, finding out ispra is a weaker drug. My

symptoms

> > > > > > > > are catching up to me and I need alot more of inspra.

> > > > > > > > > > I been on spiro since 2006. I also have diabetes in the

> > > > > > > > background now. Dr. GRim is this caused by conns?? I am the lady

who

> > > > > > > > saw 14 endos in Sacramento with no luck what so ever. Im in

Eldorado

> > > > > > > > county. I was getting real sick 2 year ago it was from high

glucose,

> > > > > > > > I have lost 35lbs and doing much better. I have my energy back

now

> > > > > > > > and i am not so cranky anymore Hope you are dong fine and

dandy.

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> > > > > > > > > > Sincerely

> > > > > > > > > > ita Vallejo

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