Re: BP decreases after meal

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And u are how old. Thumbnail pleaswMay your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

What meal? When do you take your meds? And what is a "drop" in pressure to you? Maybe the meal just helps the meds absorb. Maybe it's just natural timing. Maybe it's relaxing for you. Do you take your bp JUST before you eat? And then after. Are you walking around or just geting up in the am when you take it and then are you sitting down while eating, them taking it? So many variables and none are usually anything to be worried about. Is it goes from 120/80 to 90/50 then I'd worry. If it goes from 128/80 to 120/76 that kind of change is nothing. Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

And your not confusing blood pressure with blood sugar are you?Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

I am 35.... and I have had EVERY test done to my heart b/c of heart palps/chest

pain and even the test to check lungs which I think is called VQ. I have

anxiety.

Re: BP decreases after meal

And u are how old. Thumbnail pleasw

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS, MD

Specializing in Difficult

Hypertension

On Nov 19, 2011, at 14:58, " adifferentme@... "

wrote:

> I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal

my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose

to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Bp is usually always ok in morning after meds. In afternoon bp is highest and I

notice if I eat a good lunch or early dinner it goes down. Example it was 141/99

an hour after taking meds and before I ate this afternoon. After eating it

dropped 130/91 and 30 min. after that 125/88. Doesn't sound like that's suppose

to happen after eating.

Re: BP decreases after meal

What meal? & nbsp;When do you take your meds? And what is a " drop " in pressure to

you?

& nbsp;Maybe the meal just helps the meds absorb. Maybe it's just natural timing.

Maybe it's relaxing for you. Do you take your bp JUST before you eat? And then

after. Are you walking around or just geting up in the am when you take it and

then are you sitting down while eating, them taking it? & nbsp;

So many variables and none are usually anything to be worried about. Is it goes

from 120/80 to 90/50 then I'd worry. If it goes from 128/80 to 120/76 that kind

of change is nothing. & nbsp;

Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

On Nov 19, 2011 1:58 PM, adifferentme@...

& lt;adifferentme@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal

my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose

to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

No I'm not.... blood pressure.

Re: BP decreases after meal

And your not confusing blood pressure with blood sugar are you?

Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

On Nov 19, 2011 1:58 PM, adifferentme@...

& lt;adifferentme@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal

my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose

to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

Again we need details to be able to help. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

What meal? When do you take your meds? And what is a "drop" in pressure to you? Maybe the meal just helps the meds absorb. Maybe it's just natural timing. Maybe it's relaxing for you. Do you take your bp JUST before you eat? And then after. Are you walking around or just geting up in the am when you take it and then are you sitting down while eating, them taking it? So many variables and none are usually anything to be worried about. Is it goes from 120/80 to 90/50 then I'd worry. If it goes from 128/80 to 120/76 that kind of change is nothing. Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from SprintOn Nov 19, 2011 1:58 PM, adifferentme@...

wrote:

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

Many with low K do have anxiety. Because you have not given me your thumbnail I am assuming u are a male smoker with a stRONG FHX of HTN. THUMBNAIL PLEASE May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I am 35.... and I have had EVERY test done to my heart b/c of heart palps/chest pain and even the test to check lungs which I think is called VQ. I have anxiety.

Re: BP decreases after meal

And u are how old. Thumbnail pleasw

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS, MD

Specializing in Difficult

Hypertension

> I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Unless u have atherosclerosis of gut arteries. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Bp is usually always ok in morning after meds. In afternoon bp is highest and I notice if I eat a good lunch or early dinner it goes down. Example it was 141/99 an hour after taking meds and before I ate this afternoon. After eating it dropped 130/91 and 30 min. after that 125/88. Doesn't sound like that's suppose to happen after eating.

Re: BP decreases after meal

What meal? & nbsp;When do you take your meds? And what is a "drop" in pressure to you?

& nbsp;Maybe the meal just helps the meds absorb. Maybe it's just natural timing. Maybe it's relaxing for you. Do you take your bp JUST before you eat? And then after. Are you walking around or just geting up in the am when you take it and then are you sitting down while eating, them taking it? & nbsp;

So many variables and none are usually anything to be worried about. Is it goes from 120/80 to 90/50 then I'd worry. If it goes from 128/80 to 120/76 that kind of change is nothing. & nbsp;

Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

On Nov 19, 2011 1:58 PM, adifferentme@... & lt;adifferentme@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

It also doesn't sound like anything to really worry about. Clinically there doesn't seem to be some major correllation. Most don't check theirs like that so it may be more normal them expected and could be your own bodies circadian rhythm. It knows after last meal your slowing down. Bp normal has daily fluctuations.Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

Bp is usually always ok in morning after meds. In afternoon bp is highest and I notice if I eat a good lunch or early dinner it goes down. Example it was 141/99 an hour after taking meds and before I ate this afternoon. After eating it dropped 130/91 and 30 min. after that 125/88. Doesn't sound like that's suppose to happen after eating.

Re: BP decreases after meal

What meal? & nbsp;When do you take your meds? And what is a "drop" in pressure to you?

& nbsp;Maybe the meal just helps the meds absorb. Maybe it's just natural timing. Maybe it's relaxing for you. Do you take your bp JUST before you eat? And then after. Are you walking around or just geting up in the am when you take it and then are you sitting down while eating, them taking it? & nbsp;

So many variables and none are usually anything to be worried about. Is it goes from 120/80 to 90/50 then I'd worry. If it goes from 128/80 to 120/76 that kind of change is nothing. & nbsp;

Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

On Nov 19, 2011 1:58 PM, adifferentme@... & lt;adifferentme@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

I've been noticing past few days that when my bp is high and I eat a good meal my bp is lower afterwards. I will mention to my dr b/c I don't think bp suppose to drop after a meal. Does this sound right?

[Guest guest]

I am a female non smoker. Like I said before I am only on the groups mailing

list which I access from mobile device so I am limited. I will just check with

dr.

Re: BP decreases after meal

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> And u are how old. Thumbnail pleasw

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> May your pressure be low!

>

> CE Grim MS, MD

> Specializing in Difficult

> Hypertension

>

> On Nov 19, 2011, at 14:58, " adifferentme@... "

w

[Guest guest]

Hope u give him a thumbnailMay your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I am a female non smoker. Like I said before I am only on the groups mailing list which I access from mobile device so I am limited. I will just check with dr.

Re: BP decreases after meal

>

> And u are how old. Thumbnail pleasw

>

> May your pressure be low!

>

> CE Grim MS, MD

> Specializing in Difficult

> Hypertension

>

> On Nov 19, 2011, at 14:58, "adifferentme@..." w

[Guest guest]

You could be right. May be the anxiety.... too much worry

Re: BP decreases after meal

It also doesn't sound like anything to really worry about. Clinically there

doesn't seem to be some major correllation. Most don't check theirs like that so

it may be more normal them expected and could be your own bodies circadian

rhythm. It knows after last meal your slowing down. Bp normal has daily

fluctuations.

Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

On Nov 19, 2011 2:22 PM, adifferentme@...

& lt;adifferentme@... & gt; wrote:

& nbsp;

Bp is usually always ok in morning after meds. In afternoon bp is highest and I

notice if I eat a good lunch or early dinner it goes down. Example it was 141/99

an hour after taking meds and before I ate this afternoon. After eating it

dropped 130/91 and 30 min. after that 125/88. Doesn't sound like that's suppose

to happen after eating.

-----Original Message-----

Date: Saturday, November 19, 2011 4:07:35 pm

To: " hyperaldosteronism " & lt;hyperaldosteronism@

[Guest guest]

And I am not sure if we have actual numbers, but so many of us in our paths (and even still to some degree) suffered from anxiety and were diagnosed and treated for it. They like to use "stressed out" also as an anxiety term. But anxiety is part of it.

I get on my soapbox about potassium because even when treating my own patients, where I knew K being low was bad, I never realized how much it has it's fingers into so many body systems, and I am certain there were times I bet that I just followed the docs like I was taught and being "a little low is okay." and didn't give it much thought (and how many were actually false highs I wonder). Anxiety and mental changes being one of those things that seem to go with it. Aggression/anger is another and I bet alot on here with PA had/HAVE been diagnosed with bipolar. But if so it may just have been an organic cause (usually meaning fixable and is NOT a mental disorder, but often just a symptom of something else).

But I also had HORRIBLE insomnia that did get better with the diagnosis of PA (had hyperthyroidism at a stretch and it was even beyond description, but with just PA it was bad til treated). When my potassium was finally controlled that got better.

My biggest complaint was incredible fatigue and this strange sensation where I could not get my legs going. I could barely climb a set of stairs, even just steps and walking up our tiny driveway incline was hell. And everyone thought I was being stupid or lazy, or a drama queen. But my legs were so weak. I was playing drums in a pretty good band at the time it all worsened and I had to quit. I told the band that something was wrong, I couldn't get my legs to work, but I didn't know what. Of course I am sure they thought I was crazy or making an excuse.

What elese...palpatations - now gone / peeing ALL night - now gone / tingles - mostly gone (I developed whats called trigeminal neuralgia somewhere along the way, and it is still here. Had a BAD attack in Target today where my right eye reddens and blurs, and I get a tingle across my cheek - feels like a stray hair is sitting on my cheek. Then worsens and worsens the tingle and numb feeling, but I am lucky as it is not a bad pain. Bad enough I have to pulll over if driving).

I was getting chronically sick, with constant yeast infections, and sinus infections, now seem to be mostly gone (now just normal) since PA treated. Bowel issues better now.

I could go on, but you sound like classic symptoms of low potassium. You may check with your doc, but I take the potassium gluconate over the counter (the chloride in the prescription one gives me a headache from hell) but I take 2 with each meal and it works.

It is very hard to get high potassium as if we have good working kidneys as they don't let it get high as we just pee it out among other things. so if kidneys good not likely you could get high. But I bet if you treat it as low, based on your symptoms, you will see dramatic change. It doesn't fix everything, but in my case the taking of the potassium was very dramatic in handling so many symptoms. I have been as low as 1.9 but usually got to the ER about 2.5 to 2.8 and would go to the ER with chest pains, shortness of breath, SEVERE weakness, and so on. My heart too, on echos, C T scans x 3, treadmills, and so on always fine. Near the end of the forst part of my journey (before they found the PA) I had developed a murmur (mild), and the enlarged heart. they are both better now. But heart is generally good and I walked around for years at 160/120 and higher even on 5 meds.

So maybe the worst can be fixed with potassium. Your doc is just going on what he or she knows. Scared to treat low K maybe because they fear it getting high, not understanding that it getting high is pretty tough even on meds. Spiro didn't raise mine at all but certainly controlled the peeing all night and the BP> I am 35.... and I have had EVERY test done to my heart b/c of heart palps/chest pain and even the test to check lungs which I think is called VQ. I have anxiety.> > Re: BP decreases after meal> > And u are how old. Thumbnail pleasw> > May your pressure be low!> > CE Grim MS, MD> Specializing in Difficult> Hypertension> > On Nov 19, 2011, at 14:58, "adifferentme@..." w

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told anxiety

but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my dr.

checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was

willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but

feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy

how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

Re: BP decreases after meal

And I am not sure if we have actual numbers, but so many of us in our paths (and

even still to some degree) suffered from anxiety and were diagnosed and treated

for it. They like to use " stressed out " also as an anxiety term. But anxiety is

part of it.

 

I get on my soapbox about potassium because even when treating my own patients,

where I knew K being low was bad, I never realized how much it has it's fingers

into so many body systems, and I am certain there were times I bet that I just

followed the docs like I was taught and being " a little low is okay. " and didn't

give it much thought (and how many were actually false highs I wonder). Anxiety

and mental changes being one of those things that seem to go with it.

Aggression/anger is another and I bet alot on here with PA had/HAVE been

diagnosed with bipolar. But if so it may just have been an organic cause

(usually meaning fixable and is NOT a mental disorder, but often just a symptom

of something else).

 

But I also had HORRIBLE insomnia that did get

[Guest guest]

Well if u have PA and low K all of this fits. We need your complete story. Start

at the beginning with dates symptoms (Sx), numbers in great detail. And

summarize this with a thumbnail so I can keep u separate from the other 600+

here.

May your pressure be low!

CE Grim MS, MD

Specializing in Difficult

Hypertension

> So maybe the worst can be fixed with potassium. Your doc is just going on what

he or she knows. Scared to treat low K maybe because they fear it getting high,

not understanding that it getting high is pretty tough even on meds. Spiro

didn't raise mine at all but certainly controlled the peeing all night and the

BP

[Guest guest]

Unless u give us your detailed story and a thumbnail I will not answer any more questions. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

Re: BP decreases after meal

And I am not sure if we have actual numbers, but so many of us in our paths (and even still to some degree) suffered from anxiety and were diagnosed and treated for it. They like to use "stressed out" also as an anxiety term. But anxiety is part of it.

I get on my soapbox about potassium because even when treating my own patients, where I knew K being low was bad, I never realized how much it has it's fingers into so many body systems, and I am certain there were times I bet that I just followed the docs like I was taught and being "a little low is okay." and didn't give it much thought (and how many were actually false highs I wonder). Anxiety and mental changes being one of those things that seem to go with it. Aggression/anger is another and I bet alot on here with PA had/HAVE been diagnosed with bipolar. But if so it may just have been an organic cause (usually meaning fixable and is NOT a mental disorder, but often just a symptom of something else).

But I also had HORRIBLE insomnia that did get

[Guest guest]

As stated before I do not have complete access to the group. If I knew I had to

do all that I would not have joined. GOODBYE!

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[Guest guest]

Dr Grim maybe you need to reply a bit different to if no thumbnail.

Something like In my 40 years as a Dr I have learned that in order to give my

best medical advice I have to know as much as possable about your medical

history. If you want my advice you need to supply as information much as needed.

If this information isn't supplyed in fairness to you I can give you medical

advice.

>

> > Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told

anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my

dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was

willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but

feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy

how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

> >

> > Re: BP decreases after meal

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> > And I am not sure if we have actual numbers, but s

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[Guest guest]

Good will add to intro. However I tend to be more blunt here as this is not a typical dr pt interaction. I am trying here to function as a teacher so most here can learn to take care of it. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Dr Grim maybe you need to reply a bit different to if no thumbnail.

Something like In my 40 years as a Dr I have learned that in order to give my best medical advice I have to know as much as possable about your medical history. If you want my advice you need to supply as information much as needed. If this information isn't supplyed in fairness to you I can give you medical advice.

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> > Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

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[Guest guest]

Can not teach them if they leave us.

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> > > > Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told

anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my

dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was

willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but

feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy

how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

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[Guest guest]

Always their choice. I always send them a note when folks leave. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Can not teach them if they leave us.

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> > > > Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

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[Guest guest]

Some don't get the "feeling" as written online and the thinner skins end to take things the wrong way or when we ask nicely as we type it, sometimes funny sarcastically, they take it as an attack. I guess so many of us have been through the ringer and "accused" of everything but PA that we are a bit on-guard. It is hard to write with a smile.........Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

Always their choice. I always send them a note when folks leave. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Can not teach them if they leave us.

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> > > > Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

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[Guest guest]

At least you won't teach them wrong because you have incomplete or incorrect

information. They have to decide if the info they receive and their good health

is worth the few minutes it would take to provide what is needed. Some like to

suffer, IMHO!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin

2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told

anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my

dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was

willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but

feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy

how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

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And many, many thanks for that, Dr. Grim. If somebody is more sensitive to good manners than to best possible source of information, then they are better to go to a hairstylist, to a psychiatrist or to a lawyer. There are too many very charming people on this earth who have good manners and know nothing and do nothing useful. Bet that many of our doctors, that we are laughing now, were very nice, so what if they didn't care about us. At least, my 5 or so doctors were very nice, before they almost killed me. Natalia To: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Re: BP decreases after meal

Good will add to intro. However I tend to be more blunt here as this is not a typical dr pt interaction. I am trying here to function as a teacher so most here can learn to take care of it. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Dr Grim maybe you need to reply a bit different to if no thumbnail.

Something like In my 40 years as a Dr I have learned that in order to give my best medical advice I have to know as much as possable about your medical history. If you want my advice you need to supply as information much as needed. If this information isn't supplyed in fairness to you I can give you medical advice.

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> > Thanks for sharing. I've been feeling bad all year, at first was told anxiety but months later ended up in ER with 2.5 potassium and that's when my dr. checked aldo. But I'm still going thru process of trying to treat it. I was willing to try anything when this new Dr. put me on spiro. I'm only 35 but feeling like a depressed old lady wondering if life wll get better. It's crazy how this can get misdiagnosed and how long one can go untreated.

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