Guest guest Posted October 16, 2010 Report Share Posted October 16, 2010 The Steel Bow/ Bow Classic workout chart says "Rapid Muscular Tensions against High Resistance." I assumed it meant quick bursts of compression (compressing at 70%- 100% strength, but at a faster rate). In this case, when I do the endurance training, I use 70% or more of strength, but I don't compress the bar quite as far as I can. I use quick hits and high reps (40-50). However, that was my interpretation but, not fact. If you use that method, try the chest compression exercises, or the behind the head should press. I guarantee you it'll give you a good pump. If you happen to have a steel bow, start with the yellow spring. White would be too easy, and black would be hell. If you have a full sized bar, you'll have to estimate. To: bullworkerclub Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 3:00:07 PMSubject: Endurance training with a Bullworker? I ran across something that had written that was posted @ http://theofficebodybuildingworkout28918.yuku.com/topic/4299 "My personal routine is Monday-Friday 30-minutes with my Bullworker . Monday-Isometric, Tuesday-Isotonic, Wednesday-IsoMotion, Thursday-Sit at Home, Friday-Endurance." - My question concerns the "Friday-Endurance" portion of his training schedule. Does anybody have an example of this type of training? Routines etc?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Gentlemen, I think if you read through the definition of endurance (the fact of power of enduring or bearing anything; lasting quality) Hillrunner will realize he is placing limitations on the definition. If one diets off fat, one can become thin, but not muscular. General terms of lean muscle imply the lean muscle is fit. As one becomes stronger in anything, they are building endurance, as it takes increased strength to sustain any physical activity. Cardio is endurance. When one says they are building up their cardio, is not endurance the result? I can assure you, there is an exercise that benefits every physical activity and once one has determined what muscle development improves performance, you may ask yourself: "Is there a Bullworker exercise that will develop that muscle?" My biceps may respond faster and be larger with selected dumbbell exercises, but that is not to imply that a Bullworker will not exercise your biceps. If I can do 100 reps at 50% compression; what is involved in attaining 100 reps at 100% compression? In becoming stronger at the same number of reps at 100%, what is the reason I can now do 200 reps at 50%. Has my endurance increased? No, I cannot do 500 reps, but if I train correctly and it is possible to attain, I can reach 500 reps if it is a muscular possibility. There are limitations to everything, no matter what the physical activity. A swimmer, cyclist or runner can improve their physical condition by incorporating outside training. Most athletes will use free weights which incorporates resistance training. Last time I used my Bullworker, the resistance was very real and varied. Not every exercise may rate a "10" in efficiency, but the fact it does not rate a "10" does not make it a "0." When one takes an "all or none" approach to defining activity, a lot of effective middle ground is ignored. Respectfully, Bullworker .. Subject: Re: Endurance training with a Bullworker?To: bullworkerclub Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 2:39 AM What are you calling "endurance"? You won't become a better runner, swimmer or cyclist using a Bullworker, if that is your goal. If you do lots of reps with a Bullworker, you become more efficient at performing a high reps with a Bullworker. But if you want to become a better runner or swimmer, you need to run or swim.And if you want to get lean and muscular, you need to diet off the fat...there's no tool or program that is going to do that for you. Including the Bullworker.>> I ran across something that had written that was posted @ > http://theofficebodybuildingworkout28918.yuku.com/topic/4299 > > "My personal routine is Monday-Friday 30-minutes with my Bullworker . > Monday-Isometric, Tuesday-Isotonic, Wednesday-IsoMotion, Thursday-Sit at Home, > Friday-Endurance." - > > > My question concerns the "Friday-Endurance" portion of his training schedule. > Does anybody have an example of this type of training? Routines etc??> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 , Unfortunately, I there's either a misunderstanding regarding what I wrote or you may not have all of the relevant information? First, regarding diets: unless you're training like a triathlete or ultramarathoner, there's no way an individual will lose bodyfat in a progressive manner unless there's a caloric deficit. Especially for those of us over the age of 35 – 40. I'm not saying don't train. In fact, training in combination with a good diet, such as the one you followed to lean out for the before/after pictures for the sit & be fit video (think you'd told me it was similar to " The Zone " ) will optimize anyone's results. From some of the lay people who are considered experts in the field of bodyfat loss such as Lyle Mc, Larry North or Clarence Bass to the PhDs and medical doctors, most will agree: to get rid of bodyfat, you need to cut your calories. And unless you have a specific medical condition (eg thyroid, insulin resistance, etc.) where a more personalized approach is required, simply cleaning up your diet and watching your calories will do the trick. Second, the principle of SAID—Specific Adaption to Imposed Demand (SAID)—is something that should be considered. For example, as I noted, you use a Bullworker, you get better at a Bullworker. Is there transfer of that strength that has been gained to other activities? Yes and no. Simply because you can pull " X " amount of force on a SteelBow or Bullworker with a curl, that doesn't necessarily transfer over to a dumbbell or barbell. There are different Gross and Fine motor skills required and that will need to be developed for each activity along with the muscles the nerves that are activated. This is in part why the Kettlebell claims are simply that. There are all kinds of statements regarding the benefits of KBs regarding endurance, strength, getting ripped and on & on. Well, There's no way a runner seeking to improve speed or endurance is going to use KBs as his/her primary tool. Intervals, hill work may be one option. A powerlifter isn't going to improve his/her bench press with KBs—adjunct work may help (dips, for example)—but they're going to have to find a new training cycle, better angle for the lift, etc. And getting ripped on KBs? Just like P90X, it's the diet… " Cardio is endurance. When one says they are building up their cardio, is not endurance the result? " Cardio is a generic term that is applied to nearly everything. If you're a distance runner, you need to develop endurance specific to that task, and, it is a complex array of factors that take place biomechanically as well as biochemically. So you run. That endurance that the runner has developed has very little carry over to swimming or biking. For example, Lance Armstrong was an amazing athlete on the bike, but, his endurance did not completely carry over to marathoning and he had to re-train himself to become a marathoner. A middle ground? Certainly. Endurance athletes should and do cross train. They lift weights, do Yoga, some use a Bullwork, do Pilates. And strength advocates *should* do endurance work…since weight training/resistance work thickens the heart (basic biology) where endurance increases the size and efficiency of the heart (vastly improved per stroke volumes), it only makes sense. Again, to summarize: 1. Unless you've got the metabolism of an active 18yr old male or you're training like a triathlete, diet is the key to muscular appearance. Bodybuilders diet down for contests, Hollywood actors like Craig, Hugh Jackman or Ben Affleck go to trainers for their workouts/diets in preparation for a movie. (Check out the diet/training information that is available for free, for example, on Affleck's latest movie from his trainer.) 2. The body responds specific demands. You do a bench press, you improve at the bench press. That won't help your shoulder presses or squats, but, there is some residual carryover much like running will provide some base endurance for cycling. And some strength work may help the endurance athlete…this is still up for debate. But, again, if you train with a Steelbow or Bullworker, the most improvement you're going to see is with that particular exercise. Best - > > Gentlemen, >  > I think if you read through the definition of endurance (the fact of power of enduring or bearing anything; lasting quality) Hillrunner will realize he is placing limitations on the definition. If one diets off fat, one can become thin, but not muscular. General terms of lean muscle imply the lean muscle is fit. As one becomes stronger in anything, they are building endurance, as it takes increased strength to sustain any physical activity. Cardio is endurance. When one says they are building up their cardio, is not endurance the result? I can assure you, there is an exercise that benefits every physical activity and once one has determined what muscle development improves performance, you may ask yourself: " Is there a Bullworker exercise that will develop that muscle? " >  > My biceps may respond faster and be larger with selected dumbbell exercises, but that is not to imply that a Bullworker will not exercise your biceps. If I can do 100 reps at 50% compression; what is involved in attaining 100 reps at 100% compression? In becoming stronger at the same number of reps at 100%, what is the reason I can now do 200 reps at 50%. Has my endurance increased? No, I cannot do 500 reps, but if I train correctly and it is possible to attain, I can reach 500 reps if it is a muscular possibility. There are limitations to everything, no matter what the physical activity. >  > A swimmer, cyclist or runner can improve their physical condition by incorporating outside training. Most athletes will use free weights which incorporates resistance training. Last time I used my Bullworker, the resistance was very real and varied. Not every exercise may rate a " 10 " in efficiency, but the fact it does not rate a " 10 " does not make it a " 0. " >  > When one takes an " all or none " approach to defining activity, a lot of effective middle ground is ignored. >  > Respectfully, >  > > Bullworker > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 Hello ! Re: Endurance training with a Bullworker? ,Unfortunately, I there's either a misunderstanding regarding what I wrote or you may not have all of the relevant information?First, regarding diets: unless you're training like a triathlete or ultramarathoner, there's no way an individual will lose bodyfat in a progressive manner unless there's a caloric deficit. Especially for those of us over the age of 35 – 40. I'm not saying don't train. In fact, training in combination with a good diet, such as the one you followed to lean out for the before/after pictures for the sit & be fit video (think you'd told me it was similar to "The Zone") will optimize anyone's results. From some of the lay people who are considered experts in the field of bodyfat loss such as Lyle Mc, Larry North or Clarence Bass to the PhDs and medical doctors, most will agree: to get rid of bodyfat, you need to cut your calories. And unless you have a specific medical condition (eg thyroid, insulin resistance, etc.) where a more personalized approach is required, simply cleaning up your diet and watching your calories will do the trick.Second, the principle of SAID—Specific Adaption to Imposed Demand (SAID)—is something that should be considered. For example, as I noted, you use a Bullworker, you get better at a Bullworker. Is there transfer of that strength that has been gained to other activities? Yes and no. Simply because you can pull "X" amount of force on a SteelBow or Bullworker with a curl, that doesn't necessarily transfer over to a dumbbell or barbell. There are different Gross and Fine motor skills required and that will need to be developed for each activity along with the muscles the nerves that are activated. This is in part why the Kettlebell claims are simply that. There are all kinds of statements regarding the benefits of KBs regarding endurance, strength, getting ripped and on & on. Well, There's no way a runner seeking to improve speed or endurance is going to use KBs as his/her primary tool. Intervals, hill work may be one option. A powerlifter isn't going to improve his/her bench press with KBs—adjunct work may help (dips, for example)—but they're going to have to find a new training cycle, better angle for the lift, etc. And getting ripped on KBs? Just like P90X, it's the diet…"Cardio is endurance. When one says they are building up their cardio, is not endurance the result?" Cardio is a generic term that is applied to nearly everything. If you're a distance runner, you need to develop endurance specific to that task, and, it is a complex array of factors that take place biomechanically as well as biochemically. So you run. That endurance that the runner has developed has very little carry over to swimming or biking. For example, Lance Armstrong was an amazing athlete on the bike, but, his endurance did not completely carry over to marathoning and he had to re-train himself to become a marathoner.A middle ground? Certainly. Endurance athletes should and do cross train. They lift weights, do Yoga, some use a Bullwork, do Pilates. And strength advocates *should* do endurance work…since weight training/resistance work thickens the heart (basic biology) where endurance increases the size and efficiency of the heart (vastly improved per stroke volumes), it only makes sense.Again, to summarize:1. Unless you've got the metabolism of an active 18yr old male or you're training like a triathlete, diet is the key to muscular appearance. Bodybuilders diet down for contests, Hollywood actors like Craig, Hugh Jackman or Ben Affleck go to trainers for their workouts/diets in preparation for a movie. (Check out the diet/training information that is available for free, for example, on Affleck's latest movie from his trainer.)2. The body responds specific demands. You do a bench press, you improve at the bench press. That won't help your shoulder presses or squats, but, there is some residual carryover much like running will provide some base endurance for cycling. And some strength work may help the endurance athlete…this is still up for debate. But, again, if you train with a Steelbow or Bullworker, the most improvement you're going to see is with that particular exercise. Best ->> Gentlemen,>  > I think if you read through the definition of endurance (the fact of power of enduring or bearing anything; lasting quality) Hillrunner will realize he is placing limitations on the definition. If one diets off fat, one can become thin, but not muscular. General terms of lean muscle imply the lean muscle is fit. As one becomes stronger in anything, they are building endurance, as it takes increased strength to sustain any physical activity. Cardio is endurance. When one says they are building up their cardio, is not endurance the result? I can assure you, there is an exercise that benefits every physical activity and once one has determined what muscle development improves performance, you may ask yourself: "Is there a Bullworker exercise that will develop that muscle?">  > My biceps may respond faster and be larger with selected dumbbell exercises, but that is not to imply that a Bullworker will not exercise your biceps. If I can do 100 reps at 50% compression; what is involved in attaining 100 reps at 100% compression? In becoming stronger at the same number of reps at 100%, what is the reason I can now do 200 reps at 50%. Has my endurance increased? No, I cannot do 500 reps, but if I train correctly and it is possible to attain, I can reach 500 reps if it is a muscular possibility. There are limitations to everything, no matter what the physical activity.>  > A swimmer, cyclist or runner can improve their physical condition by incorporating outside training. Most athletes will use free weights which incorporates resistance training. Last time I used my Bullworker, the resistance was very real and varied. Not every exercise may rate a "10" in efficiency, but the fact it does not rate a "10" does not make it a "0.">  > When one takes an "all or none" approach to defining activity, a lot of effective middle ground is ignored.>  > Respectfully,>  > > Bullworker> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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