Re: new

May 11, 2005

Please there is no need for these sort of abusive remarks on an asthma

forum, this topic is way off line for the group and suggest it is

forwarded to the moderator to deal with

> --- what kind of a person are you

> can you read ......

> do you understand what has beed written to you....

>

> i suggest you read the material sent to you at least 6 times and

> dont you misquote what has been sent to you after doing so either .

>

> there are many principles outlined here you took one out and try to

> make a mockery of it -mmn i thinks you need to learn a few basic

> manners and develop a little humility not to mention improve your

> appauling evaluation skills.

> to remind you - you asked for information ....and that is all the

> pointers you are getting .

>

> suffering can teach and by god you need to learn

> p

>

> In asthma , " " <sunshine49046@y...> wrote:

>> What are your qualifications to be telling me this is in my head,

>> my " gut " and my soul? Are you practicing medicine? May I see

> your

>> license to do so please? Do you have asthma? I came here looking

>> for advice from others with this disease and possibly some

> emotional

>> support and you tell me to take a colonic? Maybe you should watch

>> out for your own Karma.

>>

>> SNIP

>>> Life conditioning and suggestion

>>> Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember

>>> Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually

>> the

>>> dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was

> no

>>> food on offer. That is conditioning

>>>

>>> An example of suggestion would be telling people who were

> allergic

>>> to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though

>> you

>>> knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually

>> have

>>> asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a

>>> reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible

> power

>> of

>>> suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you

>> were

>>> allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough

>> to

>>> start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned

> from

>>> the repeated attacks from that stimuli.

>>> Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad

>>> experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed

> that

>>> her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on

>> the

>>> phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help

> of

>>> psychotherapy she got much better.

>>>

>>> Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even

>> the

>>> gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any

>>> airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was

>> significant

>>> narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually

> the

>>> problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in

> childhood

>>> when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the

>>> dustbin.

>>> In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when

> the

>>> psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very

>> rare

>>> apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely

> triggered

>>> from these kinds of stimuli.

>>>

>>> All of these examples only go to show that we are very

> complicated

>>> beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past

>>> conditioning.

>>>

>>> According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in

>>> families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem

> being

>>> passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases

>> the

>>> allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system

>> against

>>> a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets.

>>> Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it

> is

>>> then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast

> breathing

>>> and other triggers.

>>> It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can

>> bring

>>> on an attack.

>>>

>>> Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma

>>> There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated

>>> 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from

> attunement

>>> and harmony with our spiritual source

>>>

>>> 2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his

>> or

>>> her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back

> waiting

>>> passively for healing to occur.

>>>

>>> 3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one

> can

>>> hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result.

> Thoughts

>>> are real and have weight and value.

>>> 4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them

> as

>>> palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary

>>> relief.

>>>

>>> 5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could

>>> bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not

>>> recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in

> our

>>> health.

>>>

>>> Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid

> ourselves

>>> of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work.

>>>

>>> Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing

>>> Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble

>> it

>>> takes.

>>> 6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate

> our

>>> own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions.

>>>

>>> 7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but

> one

>>> which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma.

>>>

>>> 8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce

>>> gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have

>> its

>>> origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either

>>> lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures

>>> exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the

>>> cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were

> involved

>>> occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal

>>> misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress

>> or

>>> poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on

> an

>>> asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins

>>> which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a

>>> reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the

>>> assimilation system would also come involved.

>>>

>>> An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the

> lungs,

>>> this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing

> up

>>> several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma,

> emphysema

>>> and other disorders.

>>> A review of the circulating file on asthma

>>>

>>> In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a

> severe

>>> bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in

> the

>>> bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another

>> case

>>> an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing

>>> conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body

> tried

>>> to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions

>> developing

>>> in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation

>> and

>>> elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells

>>> associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These

>>> have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia,

>>> which have been affected. There are connections between the

> first

>>> second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory

>> system

>>> hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes

> occur.

>>> After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity

>> which

>>> most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli

>>> causing the problem.

>>>

>>> Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of

>> normal

>>> function and thus we would administer those therapies which

> bring

>>> about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming

>>> dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to

>>> produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the

>>> finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse

>>> stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the

>> bronchial

>>> dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic

>> adjustments

>>> should be made and long enough for proper function to be made.

> The

>>> eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought

>> back

>>> to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and

>>> superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be

>> restored.

>>> The glands of the body should be brought also into balance.

>>> Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary

>>> adjustments should be made, which are very important with a

> severe

>>> restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no

> white

>>> bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits

>>> vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein.

>>> Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once

>>> monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available.

>>> Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands

>> one

>>> drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three

>>> days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days.

>> Then

>>> back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again.

>>> These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done

> with

>>> patience and persistence.

>>> Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although

>> it

>>> is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the

> attacks

>>> would become less severe.

>>> Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20

>> mins

>>> is one suggestion.

>>> Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once

>>> every 6 hrs is another.

>>> Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain

>> alcohol

>>> add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine

>>> 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns.

>>>

>>> Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended

>> this

>>

>> Snipped

>>

>>> 3485 male 51

>>

>>> This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering

>> from

>>> asthma since 5 yrs old.

>>> Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and

>>> stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change

> if

>>> there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who

> was

>>> meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions.

>>>

>>> What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul

>> must

>>> remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to

> give

>>> for you will pay and as most through thy gills.

>>> Cayce would not give this man any information regarding

> improving

>>> his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was

>> no

>>> having much effect.

>>> Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live.

>>>

>>> 3738 male 10

>>> Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would

> appear

>>> from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma,

>> the

>>> usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they

>> were

>>> followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured.

>>

>> Snip

>

May 18, 2005

Hi ,

Sorry you are having a bad time, I am 51 and my asthma worsened 2 years

ago after a very bad chest infection.

Don't be too quick to assume the dogs are implicated,I have 4 dear

ginger cats and all the asthma doctors moaned at me. But allergy tests

proved the cats were not to blame. Urge your doctor to arrange allergy

testing to see if it is allergy related or not. I have a Kirby cleaner

which really does keep the hairs and dust down in our house which has

carpet through out. Get him to do a sputum test to see if you have a

nasty lung bug which can be resistant to antibiotics. Finally my asthma

worsening is also related to menopause, asthma is often much worse at

this time so look into that too.

Hope you get some answers soon.

June in London UK

> Hi. My name is . I am 54 years old and have recently been

> diagnosed with asthma. It started in early March and I thought I had

> the same thing that all of Cincinnati had. But I kept

> on " productively " coughing. Went to doc and had pulmonary tests

> done. He put me on Singulair and Flovent. Now I need to learn how to

> live with this. I have 3 wonderful dogs, Giggles, Charlie & Maggie,

> and giving them up isn't an option. Any daily hints? How about a

> good vacuum sweeper to get the pet hair? Had taken our area rugs up

> because we had gotten new puppy Maggie. Put them back on Sunday and

> been miserable ever since. Rugs may go! Not coughing so much right

> now just feel like my throat is swollen. Thanks in advance for

> sharing your knowledge.

> Donohoue

>

May 18, 2005

Hi ,

I have asthma and live with several dogs and cats. Because I do rescue and foster, the number varies but can be as many as 8-10. My doctor would probably be appalled. The only asthma med I take is Advair. It seems my asthma isn't allergy driven. I react more to exercise, weather and dust. I had an electronic air cleaner and allergy zapper installed on my furnace. I also get non-alcohol based baby wipes and use them to clean the dogs coats several times a week. I have hardwood floors and buy area rugs with a tight nap...., vacuum frequently and use a mask when I do. I also sometimes roll them up and store them during the warm months. You may want to also try bathing your dogs once a month. I hope you find this info helpful.

Jean Donohoue wrote:

Hi. My name is . I am 54 years old and have recently been diagnosed with asthma. It started in early March and I thought I had the same thing that all of Cincinnati had. But I kept on "productively" coughing. Went to doc and had pulmonary tests done. He put me on Singulair and Flovent. Now I need to learn how to live with this. I have 3 wonderful dogs, Giggles, Charlie & Maggie, and giving them up isn't an option. Any daily hints? How about a good vacuum sweeper to get the pet hair? Had taken our area rugs up because we had gotten new puppy Maggie. Put them back on Sunday and been miserable ever since. Rugs may go! Not coughing so much right now just feel like my throat is swollen. Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.

Donohoue

May 18, 2005

Hi ,

I have asthma and live with several dogs and cats. Because I do rescue and foster, the number varies but can be as many as 8-10. My doctor would probably be appalled. The only asthma med I take is Advair. It seems my asthma isn't allergy driven. I react more to exercise, weather and dust. I had an electronic air cleaner and allergy zapper installed on my furnace. I also get non-alcohol based baby wipes and use them to clean the dogs coats several times a week. I have hardwood floors and buy area rugs with a tight nap...., vacuum frequently and use a mask when I do. I also sometimes roll them up and store them during the warm months. You may want to also try bathing your dogs once a month. I hope you find this info helpful.

Jean Donohoue wrote:

Hi. My name is . I am 54 years old and have recently been diagnosed with asthma. It started in early March and I thought I had the same thing that all of Cincinnati had. But I kept on "productively" coughing. Went to doc and had pulmonary tests done. He put me on Singulair and Flovent. Now I need to learn how to live with this. I have 3 wonderful dogs, Giggles, Charlie & Maggie, and giving them up isn't an option. Any daily hints? How about a good vacuum sweeper to get the pet hair? Had taken our area rugs up because we had gotten new puppy Maggie. Put them back on Sunday and been miserable ever since. Rugs may go! Not coughing so much right now just feel like my throat is swollen. Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.

Donohoue

May 18, 2005

Hi ,

I have asthma and live with several dogs and cats. Because I do rescue and foster, the number varies but can be as many as 8-10. My doctor would probably be appalled. The only asthma med I take is Advair. It seems my asthma isn't allergy driven. I react more to exercise, weather and dust. I had an electronic air cleaner and allergy zapper installed on my furnace. I also get non-alcohol based baby wipes and use them to clean the dogs coats several times a week. I have hardwood floors and buy area rugs with a tight nap...., vacuum frequently and use a mask when I do. I also sometimes roll them up and store them during the warm months. You may want to also try bathing your dogs once a month. I hope you find this info helpful.

Jean Donohoue wrote:

Hi. My name is . I am 54 years old and have recently been diagnosed with asthma. It started in early March and I thought I had the same thing that all of Cincinnati had. But I kept on "productively" coughing. Went to doc and had pulmonary tests done. He put me on Singulair and Flovent. Now I need to learn how to live with this. I have 3 wonderful dogs, Giggles, Charlie & Maggie, and giving them up isn't an option. Any daily hints? How about a good vacuum sweeper to get the pet hair? Had taken our area rugs up because we had gotten new puppy Maggie. Put them back on Sunday and been miserable ever since. Rugs may go! Not coughing so much right now just feel like my throat is swollen. Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge.

Donohoue

May 18, 2005

I'm surprised the dr. didn't put you on albuterol in an inhaler or somethin. It is quick acting and helps me a lot. I use it in a nebulizer, too. The throat is probably from coughing, and it is most likely inflamed. I am not a dr. but I do experience the same thing. My voice gets hoarse, too when I cough or am congested. The pollen here is driving me crazy. Welcome to our group. If you need any further help, let us know. . Donohoue wrote:

Hi. My name is Donohoue. I have recently been diagnosed with asthma. I am looking for information to make life easier. Itstarted several months ago. I thought I had what everybody else in Cincinnati had - but it didn't go away. After pulmonary testing my doc said I have asthma. I am taking Singulair and Flovent. I am still fairly uncomfortable. Feels like my throat is swollen but not sore. What do you all do to manage this? God bless you!__________________________________________________

May 18, 2005

I'm surprised the dr. didn't put you on albuterol in an inhaler or somethin. It is quick acting and helps me a lot. I use it in a nebulizer, too. The throat is probably from coughing, and it is most likely inflamed. I am not a dr. but I do experience the same thing. My voice gets hoarse, too when I cough or am congested. The pollen here is driving me crazy. Welcome to our group. If you need any further help, let us know. . Donohoue wrote:

Hi. My name is Donohoue. I have recently been diagnosed with asthma. I am looking for information to make life easier. Itstarted several months ago. I thought I had what everybody else in Cincinnati had - but it didn't go away. After pulmonary testing my doc said I have asthma. I am taking Singulair and Flovent. I am still fairly uncomfortable. Feels like my throat is swollen but not sore. What do you all do to manage this? God bless you!__________________________________________________

May 18, 2005

I'm surprised the dr. didn't put you on albuterol in an inhaler or somethin. It is quick acting and helps me a lot. I use it in a nebulizer, too. The throat is probably from coughing, and it is most likely inflamed. I am not a dr. but I do experience the same thing. My voice gets hoarse, too when I cough or am congested. The pollen here is driving me crazy. Welcome to our group. If you need any further help, let us know. . Donohoue wrote:

Hi. My name is Donohoue. I have recently been diagnosed with asthma. I am looking for information to make life easier. Itstarted several months ago. I thought I had what everybody else in Cincinnati had - but it didn't go away. After pulmonary testing my doc said I have asthma. I am taking Singulair and Flovent. I am still fairly uncomfortable. Feels like my throat is swollen but not sore. What do you all do to manage this? God bless you!__________________________________________________

May 18, 2005

> Hi ,

>

> I have asthma and live with several dogs and cats. Because I do

rescue and foster, the number varies but can be as many as 8-10. My

doctor would probably be appalled. The only asthma med I take is

Advair. It seems my asthma isn't allergy driven. I react more to

exercise, weather and dust. I had an electronic air cleaner and

allergy zapper installed on my furnace. I also get non-alcohol based

baby wipes and use them to clean the dogs coats several times a

week. I have hardwood floors and buy area rugs with a tight nap....,

vacuum frequently and use a mask when I do. I also sometimes roll

them up and store them during the warm months. You may want to also

try bathing your dogs once a month. I hope you find this info

helpful.

HI..I have 2 cats too. I bathe them a few times a year to help

control their shedding. This seems to help me. I dont believe I am

allergic to them like I am to some dogs though. My asthma seems to

be excaberated(spelling??) by dust, perfumes, weather changes.

May 18, 2005