Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Well, I have always had horrendous migraines at my PMS time, and finally found that imitrex helps wonders!! But, there are certainly affirmations for headaches -- I think we have a couple of members out there who are terrific at quoting them, so I'll let them help you out on Saturday. Best Wishes, PJ cobste2 wrote:Hello, I am new here and just started meditating and using affirmations. They have helped immensely but it seems I am now getting headaches. Has anyone experienced this? I know it kinds sounds new agey but my brain seems to be working overtime. I guess it use to be full of such negativity and now I am feeding it positive things. LOL..... My main stress comes from PMS. Any affirmations for this? Take care, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Well, I have always had horrendous migraines at my PMS time, and finally found that imitrex helps wonders!! But, there are certainly affirmations for headaches -- I think we have a couple of members out there who are terrific at quoting them, so I'll let them help you out on Saturday. Best Wishes, PJ cobste2 wrote:Hello, I am new here and just started meditating and using affirmations. They have helped immensely but it seems I am now getting headaches. Has anyone experienced this? I know it kinds sounds new agey but my brain seems to be working overtime. I guess it use to be full of such negativity and now I am feeding it positive things. LOL..... My main stress comes from PMS. Any affirmations for this? Take care, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Well, I have always had horrendous migraines at my PMS time, and finally found that imitrex helps wonders!! But, there are certainly affirmations for headaches -- I think we have a couple of members out there who are terrific at quoting them, so I'll let them help you out on Saturday. Best Wishes, PJ cobste2 wrote:Hello, I am new here and just started meditating and using affirmations. They have helped immensely but it seems I am now getting headaches. Has anyone experienced this? I know it kinds sounds new agey but my brain seems to be working overtime. I guess it use to be full of such negativity and now I am feeding it positive things. LOL..... My main stress comes from PMS. Any affirmations for this? Take care, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Welcome, Tracey I would be one of those members who gets migraines - unfortunately! LOL! Imitrex does work wonders, but only if you take it in time (for me anyway!) The first thing I believe in working to get rid of these horrible headaches is to release the need: " I release the need to have headaches. " Louise Hay says that headaches come from self criticism & suggests: " I love and approve of myself. I see myself and what I do with eyes of love. I am safe. " For migraines: " I relax into the flow of life and let life provide all that I need easily and comfortably. Life is for me. " Good luck. Luv Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: PJ Well, I have always had horrendous migraines at my PMS time, and finally found that imitrex helps wonders!! But, there are certainly affirmations for headaches -- I think we have a couple of members out there who are terrific at quoting them, so I'll let them help you out on Saturday. Best Wishes, PJ cobste2 wrote:Hello, I am new here and just started meditating and using affirmations. They have helped immensely but it seems I am now getting headaches. Has anyone experienced this? I know it kinds sounds new agey but my brain seems to be working overtime. I guess it use to be full of such negativity and now I am feeding it positive things. LOL..... My main stress comes from PMS. Any affirmations for this? Take care, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Welcome, Tracey I would be one of those members who gets migraines - unfortunately! LOL! Imitrex does work wonders, but only if you take it in time (for me anyway!) The first thing I believe in working to get rid of these horrible headaches is to release the need: " I release the need to have headaches. " Louise Hay says that headaches come from self criticism & suggests: " I love and approve of myself. I see myself and what I do with eyes of love. I am safe. " For migraines: " I relax into the flow of life and let life provide all that I need easily and comfortably. Life is for me. " Good luck. Luv Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: PJ Well, I have always had horrendous migraines at my PMS time, and finally found that imitrex helps wonders!! But, there are certainly affirmations for headaches -- I think we have a couple of members out there who are terrific at quoting them, so I'll let them help you out on Saturday. Best Wishes, PJ cobste2 wrote:Hello, I am new here and just started meditating and using affirmations. They have helped immensely but it seems I am now getting headaches. Has anyone experienced this? I know it kinds sounds new agey but my brain seems to be working overtime. I guess it use to be full of such negativity and now I am feeding it positive things. LOL..... My main stress comes from PMS. Any affirmations for this? Take care, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Welcome, Tracey I would be one of those members who gets migraines - unfortunately! LOL! Imitrex does work wonders, but only if you take it in time (for me anyway!) The first thing I believe in working to get rid of these horrible headaches is to release the need: " I release the need to have headaches. " Louise Hay says that headaches come from self criticism & suggests: " I love and approve of myself. I see myself and what I do with eyes of love. I am safe. " For migraines: " I relax into the flow of life and let life provide all that I need easily and comfortably. Life is for me. " Good luck. Luv Michele ----- Original Message ----- From: PJ Well, I have always had horrendous migraines at my PMS time, and finally found that imitrex helps wonders!! But, there are certainly affirmations for headaches -- I think we have a couple of members out there who are terrific at quoting them, so I'll let them help you out on Saturday. Best Wishes, PJ cobste2 wrote:Hello, I am new here and just started meditating and using affirmations. They have helped immensely but it seems I am now getting headaches. Has anyone experienced this? I know it kinds sounds new agey but my brain seems to be working overtime. I guess it use to be full of such negativity and now I am feeding it positive things. LOL..... My main stress comes from PMS. Any affirmations for this? Take care, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Yahoo is still acting funny with me and I haven't been getting some posts, but to whomever has PMS problems, I have PMDD which is exponential PMS> I take Serafem on Days 8-21 of my cycle and it helps the physical as well as the emotional. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 According to Louise Hay: Premenstrual Syndrome (PMS) Probable Cause: " Allowing confusion to reign. Giving power to outside influences. Rejection of the feminine process. " New Thought Pattern: " I now take charge of my mind and my life. I am a powerful and dynamic woman! Every part of my body functions perfectly. I love me. " new Hello, I am new here and just started meditating and using affirmations. They have helped immensely but it seems I am now getting headaches. Has anyone experienced this? I know it kinds sounds new agey but my brain seems to be working overtime. I guess it use to be full of such negativity and now I am feeding it positive things. LOL..... My main stress comes from PMS. Any affirmations for this? Take care, Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Thanks to everyone for their input. I am going to use the affirmations, especially for the one on PMS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 wrote: Hi. I am , I am new to the group as well as being new to asthma. I was diagnosed a year ago at the age of 28 and was going along fine with very little support until two weeks ago when I flared, and am now looking for information on an armload of new meds, new symptoms, and new fears. had my worst attack to date today but otherwise doing pretty well...just thought I would introduce myself. Hi , I'm . I have had asthma for 19 years, so I am a pro. I have flareups now and then, mostly caused by allergies. Cold weather will get it going too. What meds are you now on? I can look them up and help you all I can. Everyone else in the group will help, too. Take care. .God bless you!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 wrote: Hi. I am , I am new to the group as well as being new to asthma. I was diagnosed a year ago at the age of 28 and was going along fine with very little support until two weeks ago when I flared, and am now looking for information on an armload of new meds, new symptoms, and new fears. had my worst attack to date today but otherwise doing pretty well...just thought I would introduce myself. Hi , I'm . I have had asthma for 19 years, so I am a pro. I have flareups now and then, mostly caused by allergies. Cold weather will get it going too. What meds are you now on? I can look them up and help you all I can. Everyone else in the group will help, too. Take care. .God bless you!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2005 Report Share Posted May 4, 2005 wrote: Hi. I am , I am new to the group as well as being new to asthma. I was diagnosed a year ago at the age of 28 and was going along fine with very little support until two weeks ago when I flared, and am now looking for information on an armload of new meds, new symptoms, and new fears. had my worst attack to date today but otherwise doing pretty well...just thought I would introduce myself. Hi , I'm . I have had asthma for 19 years, so I am a pro. I have flareups now and then, mostly caused by allergies. Cold weather will get it going too. What meds are you now on? I can look them up and help you all I can. Everyone else in the group will help, too. Take care. .God bless you!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 snip > Hi , I'm . I have had asthma for 19 years, so I am a pro. I have flareups now and then, mostly caused by allergies. Cold weather will get it going too. What meds are you now on? I can look them up and help you all I can. Everyone else in the group will help, too. Take care. . > Hey , i wonder if things will get more normal, less neb and advair, am I always going to need singulair? When will i feel more confident? Those are the things that brought me to this group. I really appreciate any feedback you might have, and thanks for listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 snip > Hi , I'm . I have had asthma for 19 years, so I am a pro. I have flareups now and then, mostly caused by allergies. Cold weather will get it going too. What meds are you now on? I can look them up and help you all I can. Everyone else in the group will help, too. Take care. . > Hey , i wonder if things will get more normal, less neb and advair, am I always going to need singulair? When will i feel more confident? Those are the things that brought me to this group. I really appreciate any feedback you might have, and thanks for listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 snip > Hi , I'm . I have had asthma for 19 years, so I am a pro. I have flareups now and then, mostly caused by allergies. Cold weather will get it going too. What meds are you now on? I can look them up and help you all I can. Everyone else in the group will help, too. Take care. . > Hey , i wonder if things will get more normal, less neb and advair, am I always going to need singulair? When will i feel more confident? Those are the things that brought me to this group. I really appreciate any feedback you might have, and thanks for listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 ---hi kelly a few things you need to realise first Well I am going to tell you about something that maybe less than 1% of the population even understand. The answer –vested interest and quite a bit of apathy and scientific arrogance. There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the system in England is this, all treatment recommended by the NHS should be tested and approved and quite rightly so. Obviously it costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing millions of pounds. The point is this Where does this money come from to test and approve treatments? By far the biggest source is the drug companies. So take for example a researcher might go along to his local drug company and tell them his findings about this treatment he has been working on which is of outstanding value but needs testing further or approving, you might think they would be falling over themselves to know more –right, you could not be more wrong. By and large only treatments, which show the promise of good deal of a profit, will even get examined. Because they are in business to make a profit, not for serving the people. So many of the thousands of therapies which they see as having no profit potential do not get approved and thus by and large do not get recommended by your local doctor or hospital. Despite The fact that some of them do have overwhelming benefits some, which have saved needless operations, needless amputations, needless pain and trauma, needless kidney failures and much loss of life. This will apply to any country where most research is being done by drug companies – they would probably laugh in your face if you went there with a promising therapy which was so cheap anyone could get it. Do you really think they would invest thousands of pounds in any therapy which did not show the promise of good profit. Your local G.P/ doctor is not a researcher, in the main he is told…………… what to prescribe …………. he does not even have the time often to look at research. In fact some G.P .s doctors have had action taken against them for prescribing simple supplements. At this minute 2004 approx 5000 Beds are being taken up by people in the UK who have had adverse reactions to drugs. Some will die others will be maimed .A serious amount of suffering is taking place on a scale that makes some wars look like a minor infringement. That is a fact So Mr/Mrs patient in 99% of the time because of this system you will probably only get recommended drugs. Primarily because of deliberate government policy not to fund research into other therapies. Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy, Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices, Electrical Frequency devices. Has he ever mentioned the power of nutrition what you eat how much protein, carbo, vitamins, water you take in etc. Has he ever recommended a detox .. All of these have shown their inherent worth with thousands if not millions of testimonials. As you can see this system in its present state is inherently flawed, that is Until the day comes when most of the research and testing is done by an agency with no vested interests attached and a very clear agenda of being objective. Acting for the people. Printing and revealing all results good and bad. What also clouds the issue further is the fact that some of these drugs work well but that is not to say that there isn't something more natural better. so having understood that clearly ,here is some info i have dug up from the edgar cayce files, which you can draw the principles out Asthma Be sure that you have read carefully the cayce philosophy page as missing any one of the principles there could cost you in some form – we know we have done it. One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on this particularly important treatment. Asthma is a lung condition, which is characterised by widespread narrowing of the air passages within the lung. These passages can vary in size spontaneously over short periods of time, which can be triggered from different stimuli. According to a leading charity there are about 8 million people who have been diagnosed with asthma at some times in their lives. Currently about 1500 people die from asthma each year in the UK.There has been a massive increase in asthma in the last few years and millions of research money has poured into the subject to try and determine the reasons why. According to the book asthma a complete guide by Professor brostoff and gamlin Who have reviewed thousands of pieces of work by various departments, doctors, and researchers, there is a vast amount of knowledge on the subject. Those people interested in the subject would I feel do well to consult their book ISBN 07475 4043 8 These are some of the findings Numerous people have benefited greatly by doing yoga. By identifying their own common triggers or allergic reactions people's lives can be helped greatly. Strengthening the breathing muscles has also been of great benefit and research has proven this point. Check that you are not taking drugs that make your asthma worse Such as aspirin and in some people, certain drugs for glaucoma, high blood pressure, angina, migraine and thyroid problems. Avoid chest infections. Protect yourself from pollution indoor and outdoor. Check your workplace for allergens and irritants, this accounts for a great many problems. Peak flow meters put people in touch with their airways and give an early warning of asthma attacks. Review your drugs the amounts taken and the inhaler devices, some people go on taking these drugs for months without need. A management plan worked out with your doctor is extremely useful. Professor brostof recommends osteopathy treatment Vigorous exercise is highly recommended, studies have shown that people who do exercise require fewer drugs Lose weight, studies have shown people who are more overweight have a higher chance of developing the disease. There appears that there is good evidence now that the western diet with its high fat and salt intake and low fruit and vegetables is part of the reason for the epidemic of asthma. Just have a look at this study on cats our feline friends. The Pottinger Cat Experiments illustrate the genetic tendency principles. In the 1940's, a medical doctor, Francis M. Pottinger, made an experiment using 900 cats to determine what effects processed foods have on the body. The cats were divided into five groups. Two of the groups were fed whole foods-raw milk and meat - real foods for cats. The other three groups were given denatured foods pasteurized, evaporated and condensed milk. All the groups were fed the same minimal basic diet to sustain life. However, the predominant portion of the diets was either real foods or denatured foods as listed above. The cats were observed over a four-generation period and the following results were documented by Dr. Pottinger: POTTINGER CAT EXPERIMENT SUMMARY GROUP A B C D E FOOD FED raw meat raw milk evaporated milk/condensed milk 1st Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses near end of life 2nd Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses in middle of life 3rd Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses in beginning of life; many died before six months of age 4th Generation remained healthy remained healthy no fourth generation was produced: either third generation parents were sterile, or fourth generation cats were aborted before birth Fumes of many of the household things we use are a contributing factor for some people. Fatal asthma attacks come on very quickly so do not delay going to hospital if your symptoms start to get much worse. A quarter of fatals die within 30 mins of an attack. Nocturnal asthma is the most serious as most people die from an attack at night. Those who die from an asthma attack very often have been exposed to a large dose of an allergen within the last 24 hrs Antibiotics if given to babies within the first two yrs double the risk of getting asthma. Some antibiotics are worse than others. At the end of a long course of steroids – anything more than 3 weeks, children are especially vulnerable to developing asthma for up to a year after. Anyone who smokes while suffering from asthma must have a death wish, it is paramount to not even start and anyone who does smoke should give up immediately. Asthma does run in certain families or the susceptibility to it. Swimming does seem to help some people with reports of peak flow improving after having done the swim, other reports indicate that the humidity helps the airways. There is a considerable amount of evidence, which supports the view that people who have moved from areas where there was a small amount of asthma to the west have doubled their chances of contracting the disease. People moving from Tokelau to newzealand, Asians coming from east Africa then moving to Britain and many other examples. Factors which seem to encourage asthma- according to our learned professor 1.Allergens from dust, pet's pollen, moulds either in the mothers blood during pregnancy or in the air at birth. 2.Natural antibodies in the mothers breast milk 3.Other microbes 4.Natural bacteria in the gut, which can be altered by taking antibiotics. 5.Parsitic worms 6.Vaccinations 7Toxic chemicals from tobacco in the mothers bloodstream if she smokes when pregnant. 8Irritants such as tobacco smoke and nitrogen dioxide in the air that the baby breathes. Triggers According to out learned professor these are some of the most common triggers. 1Cold or very dry air. 2Certain ways of exercising. 3.Colds and chest infections. 4.Emotional upsets and stressful situations. 5.Excitement. 6.Industrial pollution. 7.Traffic pollution. 8.Irritants such as smoking, fly spray, airfreshener, or other aerosols. 9.Irritants in the air at work. 10Srong smells, even pleasant ones. 11.Sulphur dioxide given off by certain foods and drinks. 12 Aspirin and aspirin like drugs and it appears that these can affect you even if you have taken them before without ill effect. 13 Thunderstorms. Other triggers 14.Certain foods. 15.Nitrogen dioxide as found in the kitchen. 16.Certain household cleaning products give off sulphur dioxide, which can cause fatal attacks. 17Mould. 18People who have reduced or stopped a long course of steroid medication. 19Antibiotics given during the first two years of life double the chance of asthma developing. 20 People who develop asthma at work should leave the job or get a transfer ASAP, most that get asthma at work have it forever. 21Asthmatics, who use ventolin far too often, over use has been fatal. 22.Ignoring exercise-induced asthma has also been fatal. Life conditioning and suggestion Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually the dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no food on offer. That is conditioning An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though you knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually have asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power of suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you were allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough to start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from the repeated attacks from that stimuli. Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on the phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of psychotherapy she got much better. Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even the gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was significant narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the dustbin. In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very rare apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered from these kinds of stimuli. All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past conditioning. According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases the allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system against a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing and other triggers. It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can bring on an attack. Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement and harmony with our spiritual source 2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his or her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting passively for healing to occur. 3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts are real and have weight and value. 4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary relief. 5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our health. Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work. Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble it takes. 6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions. 7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma. 8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have its origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress or poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the assimilation system would also come involved. An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs, this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema and other disorders. A review of the circulating file on asthma In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another case an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions developing in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation and elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, which have been affected. There are connections between the first second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory system hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur. After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity which most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli causing the problem. Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of normal function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the bronchial dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic adjustments should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought back to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be restored. The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein. Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands one drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. Then back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with patience and persistence. Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although it is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks would become less severe. Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 mins is one suggestion. Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once every 6 hrs is another. Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain alcohol add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns. Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended this was prepared by taking either a 1- 2 gall charred oak keg and filling it with pure apple brandy just half a gallon. Drill 2 holes in the top and breathe the fumes twice a day, the keg should be placed near a heat appliance of some kind to enable the fumes to come off readily. This acts as a purifier of tissue but also allows the tissue to be revivified. To one female adult 85-1 who had an injury a lesion was found in the area of the 456 dorsal which was triggering off sympathetic ganglia causing the asthma. Corrections with deep manipulation applying at the same time mercury lamps which would relax the congested part of her and also bring about better conditions within the nerves and tissue themselves. Little sweets at all were to be eaten Also advised was 5-10grain tablets of calcidin dissolved before eaten 2 a day preferably in the evenings when the congestion shows or spasmodic conditions occur take these up to the time when the congestion has been removed. Persistance was advised. AReport back from the patient confirmed the injury at the top of the spine, which was the original cause. 90-1 male adult General advice was to avoid sweets entirely, as these would cause irritation and also avoid tea and coffee or any of that nature 36-42 osteopathic adjustments applying heat at the same time. Calcidin recommended. 227-1 male adult This patient had complications with his heart Osteopathic adjustments and calcidin were recommended. 304-2male 68 Spinal Lesions and scars were the seat of the trouble. 527-1 male adult Spinal Lesions affecting the 3 and 4 dorsal, which were causing the problems, triggers for the asthma attacks were various, but the underlying cause were the lesions. Symptoms were various –mucous, problems with the nasal cavity, the hearing the eye soreness of the soft tissue of the face, burning at times of the bronchi, even atmospheric pressure changes produced some irritation these were reflex actions coming from the action of the lesions. Cayce said despite the severity of the problem that with persistence all of these conditions would be overcome Osteopathic adjustments were recommended and diet changes, an inhalant, and atomidine. Improvements were made in direct accordance with complying with the suggestions as given by cayce it seems. 595-1Male adult A Germ acting with a sublaxation [spinal problem] was at the seat of the problem. Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, an inhalant, calcidin, apple brandy mixed with rock candy drunk very slowly no more than two teaspoons. A course of Atomidine and a warning that the person should not get overheated or cold or even cold feet while the applications were being made. 656-1male teenager This was an interesting case in that cayce said that there were various effects, which could be seen in varying atmospheric pressure changes. Various ganglia were being affected by the changes. A sublaxation spinal problem was sited as the problem with mention of various and numerous triggers, which affected the body directly. A move to a more stable place was recommended like Carolina, New Mexico, Arizona where there was more sunshine and less atmospheric pressure changes. Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, calcidin and onion packs which were to be placed over the right lung and caecum were all recommended. Again with consistence cayce said that results would be forthcoming. 861-1 Generally followed along the same lines of treatment but cautioned the person about any sweets and white potatoes and no fried food as these produced unwanted affects in the system. 1787-1 male 48 Here was another case but the cause was sited as scar tissue caused from too high a temperature exposure which gave an asthmatic condition, which could then be triggered by all sorts of things like pressure changes, or inhaling dust. Recommended treatment -Osteopathic adjustments given in a series, the fumes of apple brandy from an charred oak keg, this was also mentioned at the A.R.E. clinic in Arizona.Diet changes, calcios, enemas to cleanse the colon. 2424 male 51 A case that was diagnosed as glandular problems with lesions which had symptoms of asthma was also quite interesting, symptoms included blood pressure, blood flow problems, organs of the senses not working properly, assimilation problems, respiratory problems, digestive system problems. A cleansing of the glands was the first priority, a drop of atomidine in half a glass of water in the morning before any meal is taken for 5 days, and then 2 drops for 5 days then leave off entirely. Then take 5 drops of elixir of lactated pepsin. This is to change the character of the assimilations. On the 6th day start with the osteopathic adjustments especially in the brachial plexus, the bronchi, the larynx, head and neck, during the time of the adjustments take 1-2 spoons of milk of magnesia, this was to make the body more alkaline. Dietary changes as has been given earlier. Cayce mentioned that you might feel a little worse to begin with but to stick at it. 2755 male aged 8 Rather the same format regarding the cause as lesions[ spinal problems] but with the added remark that some attacks can come on as a result of mental associations rather than actual Physical conditions. 3453-1 female 33 Severe case of asthma with an attack lasting over 5 weeks. Cayce found lesions and sublaxations [spinal problems] to be the seat of the trouble, which required a long series of adjustments. With an added tip of mentioning when an attack was coming to use an inhalant, by using a compound tincture of benzoin and oil of eucalyptus- equal amounts in boiling water and place a cover over your head and then breathe in the fumes. Good eliminations were also advised. Dietary changes as already given – no sweets. This patient had 4 or more attacks and a further check reading was given which cayce pointed the finger at her diet as she had been having too much sweets and candies. These he said had caused these attacks. 3485 male 51 This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering from asthma since 5 yrs old. Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions. What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul must remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give for you will pay and as most through thy gills. Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was no having much effect. Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live. 3738 male 10 Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, the usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they were followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured. 5360-male56 Spinal Lesions were at the cause of the trouble again, but there was an interesting symptom in that there was a rapid heart beat which cayce found the cause to be strictures in the brachial centers. His health improved very much in short time it would appear. In Harold reillys book he mentions that people who used a balloon by inflating it improved the strength of their lungs which helped their asthma. Always and as ever spiritual healing/reiki has the capacity in overcoming this disease – see the article on this fascinating energy. This should be a part of every healing journey Fuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all manor of diseases. And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960- 4 Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia beach Books and remedies can be obtained from Home Health Products to Request a Catalogue : 1- The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card Order: 1- For more information about the A.R.E., visit http://www.edgarcayce.org If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set of Cayce's readings by calling 1- USA p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 7, 2005 Report Share Posted May 7, 2005 wrote: snip> Hi , I'm . I have had asthma for 19 years, so I am a pro. I have flareups now and then, mostly caused by allergies. Cold weather will get it going too. What meds are you now on? I can look them up and help you all I can. Everyone else in the group will help, too. Take care. .> Hey , i wonder if things will get more normal, less neb and advair, am I always going to need singulair? When will i feel more confident? Those are the things that brought me to this group. I really appreciate any feedback you might have, and thanks for listening. I neb several times a day, and use singulair every evening, along with theophylline twice a day. Just watch for triggers, and hold your head high. Do NOT let asthma defeat you. It is not an easy disease to live with, but it is manageable. Learn what your triggers are and learn how to deal with them. Of course, some things are unavoidable, like people mowing grass, and winter weather, unless you move. I'm not going to let it run me off. I bought a dust mask to wear as needed and I really don't care about people staring. If they don't like what I look like, then they can go the other way. Don't be afraid of the meds. If they help use them. You can overuse albuterol, so only use what you really need. However, if it helps to neb 5 times a day, then do it. I sometimes neb every 3-4 hours. It all depends on how I feel. Going to college is easier when I trust my body. You are doing fine, so carry yourself with pride. Take care. To all the moms, Happy Mother's Day. . God bless you! Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM more. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 What are your qualifications to be telling me this is in my head, my " gut " and my soul? Are you practicing medicine? May I see your license to do so please? Do you have asthma? I came here looking for advice from others with this disease and possibly some emotional support and you tell me to take a colonic? Maybe you should watch out for your own Karma. SNIP > Life conditioning and suggestion > Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember > Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually the > dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no > food on offer. That is conditioning > > An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic > to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though you > knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually have > asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a > reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power of > suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you were > allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough to > start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from > the repeated attacks from that stimuli. > Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad > experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that > her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on the > phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of > psychotherapy she got much better. > > Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even the > gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any > airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was significant > narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the > problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood > when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the > dustbin. > In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the > psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very rare > apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered > from these kinds of stimuli. > > All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated > beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past > conditioning. > > According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in > families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being > passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases the > allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system against > a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. > Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is > then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing > and other triggers. > It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can bring > on an attack. > > > Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma > There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated > 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement > and harmony with our spiritual source > > 2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his or > her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting > passively for healing to occur. > > 3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can > hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts > are real and have weight and value. > 4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as > palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary > relief. > > 5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could > bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not > recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our > health. > > Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves > of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work. > > Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing > Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble it > takes. > 6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our > own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions. > > 7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one > which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma. > > 8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce > gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have its > origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either > lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures > exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the > cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved > occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal > misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress or > poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an > asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins > which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a > reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the > assimilation system would also come involved. > > An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs, > this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up > several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema > and other disorders. > A review of the circulating file on asthma > > In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe > bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the > bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another case > an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing > conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried > to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions developing > in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation and > elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells > associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These > have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, > which have been affected. There are connections between the first > second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory system > hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur. > After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity which > most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli > causing the problem. > > Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of normal > function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring > about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming > dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to > produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the > finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse > stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the bronchial > dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic adjustments > should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The > eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought back > to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and > superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be restored. > The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. > Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary > adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe > restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white > bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits > vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein. > Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once > monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. > Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands one > drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three > days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. Then > back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. > These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with > patience and persistence. > Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although it > is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks > would become less severe. > Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 mins > is one suggestion. > Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once > every 6 hrs is another. > Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain alcohol > add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine > 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns. > > Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended this Snipped > 3485 male 51 > This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering from > asthma since 5 yrs old. > Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and > stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if > there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was > meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions. > > What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul must > remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give > for you will pay and as most through thy gills. > Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving > his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was no > having much effect. > Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live. > > 3738 male 10 > Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear > from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, the > usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they were > followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured. Snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 wrote: What are your qualifications to be telling me this is in my head, my "gut" and my soul? Are you practicing medicine? May I see your license to do so please? Do you have asthma? I came here looking for advice from others with this disease and possibly some emotional support and you tell me to take a colonic? Maybe you should watch out for your own Karma. Hi I'm with you. I have a big problem with this Cayce stuff. I looked up the website out of curiosity. This guy was a fruitcake. We both know that asthma, diabetes and the like are and can be deadly. I honestly don't see how a colonic can "cure" asthma. I hope I don't offend someone, but if God sees fit to heal me of these diseases on earth, fine, if not then I know I'll be healed in Heaven. I will deal with this the best way I know how. You have all the support you can handle with me. I know how it feels to have asthma because I've had it for 19 years. . SNIP> Life conditioning and suggestion> Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember > Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually the > dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no > food on offer. That is conditioning > > An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic > to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though you > knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually have > asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a > reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power of > suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you were > allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough to > start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from > the repeated attacks from that stimuli.> Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad > experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that > her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on the > phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of > psychotherapy she got much better.> > Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even the > gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any > airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was significant > narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the > problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood > when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the > dustbin. > In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the > psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very rare > apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered > from these kinds of stimuli.> > All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated > beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past > conditioning.> > According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in > families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being > passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases the > allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system against > a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. > Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is > then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing > and other triggers. > It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can bring > on an attack.> > > Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma> There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated > 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement > and harmony with our spiritual source> > 2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his or > her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting > passively for healing to occur.> > 3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can > hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts > are real and have weight and value.> 4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as > palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary > relief.> > 5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could > bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not > recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our > health.> > Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves > of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work.> > Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing > Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble it > takes.> 6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our > own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions.> > 7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one > which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma.> > 8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce > gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have its > origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either > lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures > exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the > cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved > occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal > misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress or > poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an > asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins > which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a > reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the > assimilation system would also come involved.> > An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs, > this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up > several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema > and other disorders.> A review of the circulating file on asthma> > In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe > bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the > bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another case > an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing > conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried > to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions developing > in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation and > elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells > associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These > have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, > which have been affected. There are connections between the first > second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory system > hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur. > After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity which > most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli > causing the problem.> > Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of normal > function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring > about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming > dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to > produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the > finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse > stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the bronchial > dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic adjustments > should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The > eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought back > to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and > superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be restored. > The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. > Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary > adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe > restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white > bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits > vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein.> Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once > monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. > Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands one > drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three > days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. Then > back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. > These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with > patience and persistence. > Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although it > is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks > would become less severe.> Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 mins > is one suggestion.> Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once > every 6 hrs is another.> Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain alcohol > add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine > 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns.> > Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended this Snipped> 3485 male 51> This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering from > asthma since 5 yrs old.> Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and > stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if > there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was > meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions.> > What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul must > remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give > for you will pay and as most through thy gills.> Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving > his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was no > having much effect.> Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live.> > 3738 male 10> Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear > from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, the > usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they were > followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured.SnipGod bless you!__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 Thanks , I appreciate the backup here, the cayce stuff feels sort of quackish...I do use some of the alternates, exercise is important and I swear by myofacial release and deep massage, but every person is different and every physiology is different. Personally I plan to put my energy into coping with this. > Hi I'm with you. I have a big problem with this Cayce stuff. I looked up the website out of curiosity. This guy was a fruitcake. We both know that asthma, diabetes and the like are and can be deadly. I honestly don't see how a colonic can " cure " asthma. I hope I don't offend someone, but if God sees fit to heal me of these diseases on earth, fine, if not then I know I'll be healed in Heaven. I will deal with this the best way I know how. You have all the support you can handle with me. I know how it feels to have asthma because I've had it for 19 years. . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 This is extremely misleading, dangerous and misguided claptrap Saul Re: new ---hi kelly a few things you need to realise first Well I am going to tell you about something that maybe less than 1% of the population even understand.The answer –vested interest and quite a bit of apathy and scientific arrogance.There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the system in England is this, all treatment recommended by the NHS should be tested and approved and quite rightly so. Obviously it costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing millions of pounds. The point is this Where does this money come from to test and approve treatments? By far the biggest source is the drug companies.So take for example a researcher might go along to his local drug company and tell them his findings about this treatment he has been working on which is of outstanding value but needs testing further or approving, you might think they would be falling over themselves to know more –right, you could not be more wrong. By and large only treatments, which show the promise of good deal of a profit, will even get examined. Because they are in business to make a profit, not for serving the people. So many of the thousands of therapies which they see as having no profit potential do not get approved and thus by and large do not get recommended by your local doctor or hospital.Despite The fact that some of them do have overwhelming benefits some, which have saved needless operations, needless amputations, needless pain and trauma, needless kidney failures and much loss of life. This will apply to any country where most research is being done by drug companies – they would probably laugh in your face if you went there with a promising therapy which was so cheap anyone could get it.Do you really think they would invest thousands of pounds in any therapy which did not show the promise of good profit. Your local G.P/ doctor is not a researcher,in the main he is told…………… what to prescribe …………. he does not even have the time often to look at research.In fact some G.P .s doctors have had action taken against them for prescribing simple supplements. At this minute 2004 approx 5000 Beds are being taken up by people in the UK who have had adverse reactions to drugs. Some will die others will be maimed .A serious amount of suffering is taking place on a scale that makes some wars look like a minor infringement. That is a factSo Mr/Mrs patient in 99% of the time because of this system you will probably only get recommended drugs. Primarily because of deliberate government policy not to fund research into other therapies. Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy, Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices, Electrical Frequency devices.Has he ever mentioned the power of nutrition what you eat how much protein, carbo, vitamins, water you take in etc.Has he ever recommended a detox ..All of these have shown their inherent worth with thousands if not millions of testimonials.As you can see this system in its present state is inherently flawed, that isUntil the day comes when most of the research and testing is done by an agency with no vested interests attached and a very clear agenda of being objective. Acting for the people. Printing and revealing all results good and bad.What also clouds the issue further is the fact that some of these drugs work well but that is not to say that there isn't something more natural better.so having understood that clearly ,here is some info i have dug up from the edgar cayce files, which you can draw the principles out AsthmaBe sure that you have read carefully the cayce philosophy page as missing any one of the principles there could cost you in some form –we know we have done it.One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on this particularly important treatment.Asthma is a lung condition, which is characterised by widespread narrowing of the air passages within the lung. These passages can vary in size spontaneously over short periods of time, which can be triggered from different stimuli. According to a leading charity there are about 8 million people who have been diagnosed with asthma at some times in their lives. Currently about 1500 people die from asthma each year in the UK.There has been a massive increase in asthma in the last few years and millions of research money has poured into the subject to try and determine the reasons why.According to the book asthma a complete guide by Professor brostoff and gamlinWho have reviewed thousands of pieces of work by various departments, doctors, and researchers, there is a vast amount of knowledge on the subject. Those people interested in the subject would I feel do well to consult their book ISBN 07475 4043 8These are some of the findingsNumerous people have benefited greatly by doing yoga.By identifying their own common triggers or allergic reactions people's lives can be helped greatly.Strengthening the breathing muscles has also been of great benefit and research has proven this point.Check that you are not taking drugs that make your asthma worse Such as aspirin and in some people, certain drugs for glaucoma, high blood pressure, angina, migraine and thyroid problems.Avoid chest infections.Protect yourself from pollution indoor and outdoor.Check your workplace for allergens and irritants, this accounts for a great many problems.Peak flow meters put people in touch with their airways and give an early warning of asthma attacks.Review your drugs the amounts taken and the inhaler devices, some people go on taking these drugs for months without need.A management plan worked out with your doctor is extremely useful.Professor brostof recommends osteopathy treatment Vigorous exercise is highly recommended, studies have shown that people who do exercise require fewer drugsLose weight, studies have shown people who are more overweight have a higher chance of developing the disease.There appears that there is good evidence now that the western diet with its high fat and salt intake and low fruit and vegetables is part of the reason for the epidemic of asthma.Just have a look at this study on cats our feline friends.The Pottinger Cat Experiments illustrate the genetic tendency principles. In the 1940's, a medical doctor, Francis M. Pottinger, made an experiment using 900 cats to determine what effects processed foods have on the body. The cats were divided into five groups. Two of the groups were fed whole foods-raw milk and meat - real foods for cats. The other three groups were given denatured foods pasteurized, evaporated and condensed milk. All the groups were fed the same minimal basic diet to sustain life. However, the predominant portion of the diets was either real foods or denatured foods as listed above. The cats were observed over a four-generation period and the following results were documented by Dr. Pottinger: POTTINGER CAT EXPERIMENT SUMMARYGROUP A B C D E FOOD FED raw meat raw milk evaporated milk/condensed milk 1st Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses near end of life2nd Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses in middle of life3rd Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses in beginning of life; many died before six months of age4th Generation remained healthy remained healthy no fourth generation was produced: either third generation parents were sterile, or fourth generation cats were aborted before birth Fumes of many of the household things we use are a contributing factor for some people.Fatal asthma attacks come on very quickly so do not delay going to hospital if your symptoms start to get much worse. A quarter of fatals die within 30 mins of an attack. Nocturnal asthma is the most serious as most people die from an attack at night.Those who die from an asthma attack very often have been exposed to a large dose of an allergen within the last 24 hrsAntibiotics if given to babies within the first two yrs double the risk of getting asthma. Some antibiotics are worse than others.At the end of a long course of steroids – anything more than 3 weeks, children are especially vulnerable to developing asthma for up to a year after.Anyone who smokes while suffering from asthma must have a death wish, it is paramount to not even start and anyone who does smoke should give up immediately.Asthma does run in certain families or the susceptibility to it.Swimming does seem to help some people with reports of peak flow improving after having done the swim, other reports indicate that the humidity helps the airways.There is a considerable amount of evidence, which supports the view that people who have moved from areas where there was a small amount of asthma to the west have doubled their chances of contracting the disease. People moving from Tokelau to newzealand, Asians coming from east Africa then moving to Britain and many other examples.Factors which seem to encourage asthma- according to our learned professor 1.Allergens from dust, pet's pollen, moulds either in the mothers blood during pregnancy or in the air at birth.2.Natural antibodies in the mothers breast milk3.Other microbes4.Natural bacteria in the gut, which can be altered by taking antibiotics.5.Parsitic worms6.Vaccinations7Toxic chemicals from tobacco in the mothers bloodstream if she smokes when pregnant.8Irritants such as tobacco smoke and nitrogen dioxide in the air that the baby breathes.TriggersAccording to out learned professor these are some of the most common triggers.1Cold or very dry air.2Certain ways of exercising.3.Colds and chest infections.4.Emotional upsets and stressful situations.5.Excitement.6.Industrial pollution.7.Traffic pollution.8.Irritants such as smoking, fly spray, airfreshener, or other aerosols.9.Irritants in the air at work.10Srong smells, even pleasant ones.11.Sulphur dioxide given off by certain foods and drinks.12 Aspirin and aspirin like drugs and it appears that these can affect you even if you have taken them before without ill effect.13 Thunderstorms.Other triggers14.Certain foods.15.Nitrogen dioxide as found in the kitchen.16.Certain household cleaning products give off sulphur dioxide, which can cause fatal attacks.17Mould. 18People who have reduced or stopped a long course of steroid medication.19Antibiotics given during the first two years of life double the chance of asthma developing.20 People who develop asthma at work should leave the job or get a transfer ASAP, most that get asthma at work have it forever.21Asthmatics, who use ventolin far too often, over use has been fatal.22.Ignoring exercise-induced asthma has also been fatal.Life conditioning and suggestionLet me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually the dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no food on offer. That is conditioning An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though you knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually have asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power of suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you were allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough to start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from the repeated attacks from that stimuli.Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on the phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of psychotherapy she got much better.Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even the gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was significant narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the dustbin. In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very rare apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered from these kinds of stimuli.All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past conditioning.According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases the allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system against a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing and other triggers. It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can bring on an attack.Edgar Cayce approach to healing AsthmaThere are quite a few principles which cayce advocated 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement and harmony with our spiritual source2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his or her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting passively for healing to occur.3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts are real and have weight and value.4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary relief.5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our health.Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work.Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble it takes.6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions.7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma.8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have its origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress or poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the assimilation system would also come involved.An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs, this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema and other disorders.A review of the circulating file on asthmaIn case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another case an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions developing in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation and elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, which have been affected. There are connections between the first second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory system hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur. After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity which most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli causing the problem.Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of normal function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the bronchial dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic adjustments should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought back to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be restored. The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein.Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands one drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. Then back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with patience and persistence. Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although it is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks would become less severe.Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 mins is one suggestion.Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once every 6 hrs is another.Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain alcohol add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns.Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended this was prepared by taking either a 1- 2 gall charred oak keg and filling it with pure apple brandy just half a gallon. Drill 2 holes in the top and breathe the fumes twice a day, the keg should be placed near a heat appliance of some kind to enable the fumes to come off readily. This acts as a purifier of tissue but also allows the tissue to be revivified.To one female adult 85-1 who had an injury a lesion was found in the area of the 456 dorsal which was triggering off sympathetic ganglia causing the asthma. Corrections with deep manipulation applying at the same time mercury lamps which would relax the congested part of her and also bring about better conditions within the nerves and tissue themselves.Little sweets at all were to be eatenAlso advised was 5-10grain tablets of calcidin dissolved before eaten 2 a day preferably in the evenings when the congestion shows or spasmodic conditions occur take these up to the time when the congestion has been removed.Persistance was advised.AReport back from the patient confirmed the injury at the top of the spine, which was the original cause.90-1 male adultGeneral advice was to avoid sweets entirely, as these would cause irritation and also avoid tea and coffee or any of that nature 36-42 osteopathic adjustments applying heat at the same time.Calcidin recommended.227-1 male adultThis patient had complications with his heartOsteopathic adjustments and calcidin were recommended.304-2male 68Spinal Lesions and scars were the seat of the trouble.527-1 male adultSpinal Lesions affecting the 3 and 4 dorsal, which were causing the problems, triggers for the asthma attacks were various, but the underlying cause were the lesions. Symptoms were various –mucous, problems with the nasal cavity, the hearing the eye soreness of the soft tissue of the face, burning at times of the bronchi, even atmospheric pressure changes produced some irritation these were reflex actions coming from the action of the lesions.Cayce said despite the severity of the problem that with persistence all of these conditions would be overcome Osteopathic adjustments were recommended and diet changes, an inhalant, and atomidine. Improvements were made in direct accordance with complying with the suggestions as given by cayce it seems.595-1Male adultA Germ acting with a sublaxation [spinal problem] was at the seat of the problem. Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, an inhalant, calcidin, apple brandy mixed with rock candy drunk very slowly no more than two teaspoons. A course of Atomidine and a warning that the person should not get overheated or cold or even cold feet while the applications were being made.656-1male teenagerThis was an interesting case in that cayce said that there were various effects, which could be seen in varying atmospheric pressure changes. Various ganglia were being affected by the changes.A sublaxation spinal problem was sited as the problem with mention of various and numerous triggers, which affected the body directly.A move to a more stable place was recommended like Carolina, New Mexico, Arizona where there was more sunshine and less atmospheric pressure changes.Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, calcidin and onion packs which were to be placed over the right lung and caecum were all recommended. Again with consistence cayce said that results would be forthcoming.861-1 Generally followed along the same lines of treatment but cautioned the person about any sweets and white potatoes and no fried food as these produced unwanted affects in the system.1787-1 male 48Here was another case but the cause was sited as scar tissue caused from too high a temperature exposure which gave an asthmatic condition, which could then be triggered by all sorts of things like pressure changes, or inhaling dust.Recommended treatment -Osteopathic adjustments given in a series, the fumes of apple brandy from an charred oak keg, this was also mentioned at the A.R.E. clinic in Arizona.Diet changes, calcios, enemas to cleanse the colon.2424 male 51A case that was diagnosed as glandular problems with lesions which had symptoms of asthma was also quite interesting, symptoms included blood pressure, blood flow problems, organs of the senses not working properly, assimilation problems, respiratory problems, digestive system problems.A cleansing of the glands was the first priority, a drop of atomidine in half a glass of water in the morning before any meal is taken for 5 days, and then 2 drops for 5 days then leave off entirely.Then take 5 drops of elixir of lactated pepsin. This is to change the character of the assimilations.On the 6th day start with the osteopathic adjustments especially in the brachial plexus, the bronchi, the larynx, head and neck, during the time of the adjustments take 1-2 spoons of milk of magnesia, this was to make the body more alkaline.Dietary changes as has been given earlier.Cayce mentioned that you might feel a little worse to begin with but to stick at it.2755 male aged 8Rather the same format regarding the cause as lesions[ spinal problems] but with the added remark that some attacks can come on as a result of mental associations rather than actual Physical conditions.3453-1 female 33Severe case of asthma with an attack lasting over 5 weeks.Cayce found lesions and sublaxations [spinal problems] to be the seat of the trouble, which required a long series of adjustments. With an added tip of mentioning when an attack was coming to use an inhalant, by using a compound tincture of benzoin and oil of eucalyptus- equal amounts in boiling water and place a cover over your head and then breathe in the fumes. Good eliminations were also advised.Dietary changes as already given – no sweets.This patient had 4 or more attacks and a further check reading was given which cayce pointed the finger at her diet as she had been having too much sweets and candies. These he said had caused these attacks.3485 male 51This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering from asthma since 5 yrs old.Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions.What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul must remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give for you will pay and as most through thy gills.Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was no having much effect.Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live.3738 male 10Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, the usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they were followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured.5360-male56Spinal Lesions were at the cause of the trouble again, but there was an interesting symptom in that there was a rapid heart beat which cayce found the cause to be strictures in the brachial centers.His health improved very much in short time it would appear.In Harold reillys book he mentions that people who used a balloon by inflating it improved the strength of their lungs which helped their asthma.Always and as ever spiritual healing/reiki has the capacity in overcoming this disease – see the article on this fascinating energy. This should be a part of every healing journeyFuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all manor of diseases. And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960-4 Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia beachBooks and remedies can be obtained fromHome Health Products to Request a Catalogue : 1- The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card Order: 1-For more information about the A.R.E., visit http://www.edgarcayce.org If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set of Cayce's readings by calling 1- USAp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 8, 2005 Report Share Posted May 8, 2005 saulsclubs wrote: This is extremely misleading, dangerous and misguided claptrap Saul I know everyone has his/her own belief systems. But, this Cayce nonsense is dangerous. I have heard of people believing false "faith healings" and taking themselves or their kids off of life sustaining medicines and then they or their kids die. I do believe God heals, in His own time and in His own way. Sometimes He chooses not to heal, but gives strength to live on. As for this stuff, I have a hard time believing that massage can "heal" asthma or diabetes or any thing else. Please people, if I offend, I'm sorry, but PLEASE BE CAREFUL. . Re: new ---hi kelly a few things you need to realise first Well I am going to tell you about something that maybe less than 1% of the population even understand.The answer –vested interest and quite a bit of apathy and scientific arrogance.There are a few very important points that I would like to cover on the subject of drugs and research and treatment At present the system in England is this, all treatment recommended by the NHS should be tested and approved and quite rightly so. Obviously it costs vast sums of money to test and approve treatments because of the possible damage to people and the subsequent litigation costing millions of pounds. The point is this Where does this money come from to test and approve treatments? By far the biggest source is the drug companies.So take for example a researcher might go along to his local drug company and tell them his findings about this treatment he has been working on which is of outstanding value but needs testing further or approving, you might think they would be falling over themselves to know more –right, you could not be more wrong. By and large only treatments, which show the promise of good deal of a profit, will even get examined. Because they are in business to make a profit, not for serving the people. So many of the thousands of therapies which they see as having no profit potential do not get approved and thus by and large do not get recommended by your local doctor or hospital.Despite The fact that some of them do have overwhelming benefits some, which have saved needless operations, needless amputations, needless pain and trauma, needless kidney failures and much loss of life. This will apply to any country where most research is being done by drug companies – they would probably laugh in your face if you went there with a promising therapy which was so cheap anyone could get it.Do you really think they would invest thousands of pounds in any therapy which did not show the promise of good profit. Your local G.P/ doctor is not a researcher,in the main he is told…………… what to prescribe …………. he does not even have the time often to look at research.In fact some G.P .s doctors have had action taken against them for prescribing simple supplements. At this minute 2004 approx 5000 Beds are being taken up by people in the UK who have had adverse reactions to drugs. Some will die others will be maimed .A serious amount of suffering is taking place on a scale that makes some wars look like a minor infringement. That is a factSo Mr/Mrs patient in 99% of the time because of this system you will probably only get recommended drugs. Primarily because of deliberate government policy not to fund research into other therapies. Have you heard your local doctor recommend, Massage, Spiritual healing, Knieisiology Herbs, Light therapy, Colour therapy, Regression therapy, Osteopathy, Zappers, Magnetic devices, Electrical Frequency devices.Has he ever mentioned the power of nutrition what you eat how much protein, carbo, vitamins, water you take in etc.Has he ever recommended a detox ..All of these have shown their inherent worth with thousands if not millions of testimonials.As you can see this system in its present state is inherently flawed, that isUntil the day comes when most of the research and testing is done by an agency with no vested interests attached and a very clear agenda of being objective. Acting for the people. Printing and revealing all results good and bad.What also clouds the issue further is the fact that some of these drugs work well but that is not to say that there isn't something more natural better.so having understood that clearly ,here is some info i have dug up from the edgar cayce files, which you can draw the principles out AsthmaBe sure that you have read carefully the cayce philosophy page as missing any one of the principles there could cost you in some form –we know we have done it.One of the most important principles outlined by cayce and others where people are suffering from any condition is to do everything they can to help others in whatever capacity they can. Cayce frequently mentioned that this would bring faster results. This is a great ingredient in helping all people to transmute their own karma. See other pages on this particularly important treatment.Asthma is a lung condition, which is characterised by widespread narrowing of the air passages within the lung. These passages can vary in size spontaneously over short periods of time, which can be triggered from different stimuli. According to a leading charity there are about 8 million people who have been diagnosed with asthma at some times in their lives. Currently about 1500 people die from asthma each year in the UK.There has been a massive increase in asthma in the last few years and millions of research money has poured into the subject to try and determine the reasons why.According to the book asthma a complete guide by Professor brostoff and gamlinWho have reviewed thousands of pieces of work by various departments, doctors, and researchers, there is a vast amount of knowledge on the subject. Those people interested in the subject would I feel do well to consult their book ISBN 07475 4043 8These are some of the findingsNumerous people have benefited greatly by doing yoga.By identifying their own common triggers or allergic reactions people's lives can be helped greatly.Strengthening the breathing muscles has also been of great benefit and research has proven this point.Check that you are not taking drugs that make your asthma worse Such as aspirin and in some people, certain drugs for glaucoma, high blood pressure, angina, migraine and thyroid problems.Avoid chest infections.Protect yourself from pollution indoor and outdoor.Check your workplace for allergens and irritants, this accounts for a great many problems.Peak flow meters put people in touch with their airways and give an early warning of asthma attacks.Review your drugs the amounts taken and the inhaler devices, some people go on taking these drugs for months without need.A management plan worked out with your doctor is extremely useful.Professor brostof recommends osteopathy treatment Vigorous exercise is highly recommended, studies have shown that people who do exercise require fewer drugsLose weight, studies have shown people who are more overweight have a higher chance of developing the disease.There appears that there is good evidence now that the western diet with its high fat and salt intake and low fruit and vegetables is part of the reason for the epidemic of asthma.Just have a look at this study on cats our feline friends.The Pottinger Cat Experiments illustrate the genetic tendency principles. In the 1940's, a medical doctor, Francis M. Pottinger, made an experiment using 900 cats to determine what effects processed foods have on the body. The cats were divided into five groups. Two of the groups were fed whole foods-raw milk and meat - real foods for cats. The other three groups were given denatured foods pasteurized, evaporated and condensed milk. All the groups were fed the same minimal basic diet to sustain life. However, the predominant portion of the diets was either real foods or denatured foods as listed above. The cats were observed over a four-generation period and the following results were documented by Dr. Pottinger: POTTINGER CAT EXPERIMENT SUMMARYGROUP A B C D E FOOD FED raw meat raw milk evaporated milk/condensed milk 1st Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses near end of life2nd Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses in middle of life3rd Generation remained healthy remained healthy developed diseases and illnesses in beginning of life; many died before six months of age4th Generation remained healthy remained healthy no fourth generation was produced: either third generation parents were sterile, or fourth generation cats were aborted before birth Fumes of many of the household things we use are a contributing factor for some people.Fatal asthma attacks come on very quickly so do not delay going to hospital if your symptoms start to get much worse. A quarter of fatals die within 30 mins of an attack. Nocturnal asthma is the most serious as most people die from an attack at night.Those who die from an asthma attack very often have been exposed to a large dose of an allergen within the last 24 hrsAntibiotics if given to babies within the first two yrs double the risk of getting asthma. Some antibiotics are worse than others.At the end of a long course of steroids – anything more than 3 weeks, children are especially vulnerable to developing asthma for up to a year after.Anyone who smokes while suffering from asthma must have a death wish, it is paramount to not even start and anyone who does smoke should give up immediately.Asthma does run in certain families or the susceptibility to it.Swimming does seem to help some people with reports of peak flow improving after having done the swim, other reports indicate that the humidity helps the airways.There is a considerable amount of evidence, which supports the view that people who have moved from areas where there was a small amount of asthma to the west have doubled their chances of contracting the disease. People moving from Tokelau to newzealand, Asians coming from east Africa then moving to Britain and many other examples.Factors which seem to encourage asthma- according to our learned professor 1.Allergens from dust, pet's pollen, moulds either in the mothers blood during pregnancy or in the air at birth.2.Natural antibodies in the mothers breast milk3.Other microbes4.Natural bacteria in the gut, which can be altered by taking antibiotics.5.Parsitic worms6.Vaccinations7Toxic chemicals from tobacco in the mothers bloodstream if she smokes when pregnant.8Irritants such as tobacco smoke and nitrogen dioxide in the air that the baby breathes.TriggersAccording to out learned professor these are some of the most common triggers.1Cold or very dry air.2Certain ways of exercising.3.Colds and chest infections.4.Emotional upsets and stressful situations.5.Excitement.6.Industrial pollution.7.Traffic pollution.8.Irritants such as smoking, fly spray, airfreshener, or other aerosols.9.Irritants in the air at work.10Srong smells, even pleasant ones.11.Sulphur dioxide given off by certain foods and drinks.12 Aspirin and aspirin like drugs and it appears that these can affect you even if you have taken them before without ill effect.13 Thunderstorms.Other triggers14.Certain foods.15.Nitrogen dioxide as found in the kitchen.16.Certain household cleaning products give off sulphur dioxide, which can cause fatal attacks.17Mould. 18People who have reduced or stopped a long course of steroid medication.19Antibiotics given during the first two years of life double the chance of asthma developing.20 People who develop asthma at work should leave the job or get a transfer ASAP, most that get asthma at work have it forever.21Asthmatics, who use ventolin far too often, over use has been fatal.22.Ignoring exercise-induced asthma has also been fatal.Life conditioning and suggestionLet me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually the dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no food on offer. That is conditioning An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though you knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually have asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power of suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you were allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough to start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from the repeated attacks from that stimuli.Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on the phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of psychotherapy she got much better.Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even the gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was significant narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the dustbin. In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very rare apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered from these kinds of stimuli.All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past conditioning.According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases the allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system against a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing and other triggers. It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can bring on an attack.Edgar Cayce approach to healing AsthmaThere are quite a few principles which cayce advocated 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement and harmony with our spiritual source2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his or her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting passively for healing to occur.3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts are real and have weight and value.4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary relief.5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our health.Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work.Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble it takes.6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions.7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma.8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have its origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress or poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the assimilation system would also come involved.An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs, this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema and other disorders.A review of the circulating file on asthmaIn case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another case an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions developing in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation and elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, which have been affected. There are connections between the first second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory system hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur. After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity which most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli causing the problem.Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of normal function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the bronchial dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic adjustments should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought back to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be restored. The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein.Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands one drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. Then back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with patience and persistence. Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although it is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks would become less severe.Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 mins is one suggestion.Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once every 6 hrs is another.Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain alcohol add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns.Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended this was prepared by taking either a 1- 2 gall charred oak keg and filling it with pure apple brandy just half a gallon. Drill 2 holes in the top and breathe the fumes twice a day, the keg should be placed near a heat appliance of some kind to enable the fumes to come off readily. This acts as a purifier of tissue but also allows the tissue to be revivified.To one female adult 85-1 who had an injury a lesion was found in the area of the 456 dorsal which was triggering off sympathetic ganglia causing the asthma. Corrections with deep manipulation applying at the same time mercury lamps which would relax the congested part of her and also bring about better conditions within the nerves and tissue themselves.Little sweets at all were to be eatenAlso advised was 5-10grain tablets of calcidin dissolved before eaten 2 a day preferably in the evenings when the congestion shows or spasmodic conditions occur take these up to the time when the congestion has been removed.Persistance was advised.AReport back from the patient confirmed the injury at the top of the spine, which was the original cause.90-1 male adultGeneral advice was to avoid sweets entirely, as these would cause irritation and also avoid tea and coffee or any of that nature 36-42 osteopathic adjustments applying heat at the same time.Calcidin recommended.227-1 male adultThis patient had complications with his heartOsteopathic adjustments and calcidin were recommended.304-2male 68Spinal Lesions and scars were the seat of the trouble.527-1 male adultSpinal Lesions affecting the 3 and 4 dorsal, which were causing the problems, triggers for the asthma attacks were various, but the underlying cause were the lesions. Symptoms were various –mucous, problems with the nasal cavity, the hearing the eye soreness of the soft tissue of the face, burning at times of the bronchi, even atmospheric pressure changes produced some irritation these were reflex actions coming from the action of the lesions.Cayce said despite the severity of the problem that with persistence all of these conditions would be overcome Osteopathic adjustments were recommended and diet changes, an inhalant, and atomidine. Improvements were made in direct accordance with complying with the suggestions as given by cayce it seems.595-1Male adultA Germ acting with a sublaxation [spinal problem] was at the seat of the problem. Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, an inhalant, calcidin, apple brandy mixed with rock candy drunk very slowly no more than two teaspoons. A course of Atomidine and a warning that the person should not get overheated or cold or even cold feet while the applications were being made.656-1male teenagerThis was an interesting case in that cayce said that there were various effects, which could be seen in varying atmospheric pressure changes. Various ganglia were being affected by the changes.A sublaxation spinal problem was sited as the problem with mention of various and numerous triggers, which affected the body directly.A move to a more stable place was recommended like Carolina, New Mexico, Arizona where there was more sunshine and less atmospheric pressure changes.Osteopathic adjustments, diet changes, calcidin and onion packs which were to be placed over the right lung and caecum were all recommended. Again with consistence cayce said that results would be forthcoming.861-1 Generally followed along the same lines of treatment but cautioned the person about any sweets and white potatoes and no fried food as these produced unwanted affects in the system.1787-1 male 48Here was another case but the cause was sited as scar tissue caused from too high a temperature exposure which gave an asthmatic condition, which could then be triggered by all sorts of things like pressure changes, or inhaling dust.Recommended treatment -Osteopathic adjustments given in a series, the fumes of apple brandy from an charred oak keg, this was also mentioned at the A.R.E. clinic in Arizona.Diet changes, calcios, enemas to cleanse the colon.2424 male 51A case that was diagnosed as glandular problems with lesions which had symptoms of asthma was also quite interesting, symptoms included blood pressure, blood flow problems, organs of the senses not working properly, assimilation problems, respiratory problems, digestive system problems.A cleansing of the glands was the first priority, a drop of atomidine in half a glass of water in the morning before any meal is taken for 5 days, and then 2 drops for 5 days then leave off entirely.Then take 5 drops of elixir of lactated pepsin. This is to change the character of the assimilations.On the 6th day start with the osteopathic adjustments especially in the brachial plexus, the bronchi, the larynx, head and neck, during the time of the adjustments take 1-2 spoons of milk of magnesia, this was to make the body more alkaline.Dietary changes as has been given earlier.Cayce mentioned that you might feel a little worse to begin with but to stick at it.2755 male aged 8Rather the same format regarding the cause as lesions[ spinal problems] but with the added remark that some attacks can come on as a result of mental associations rather than actual Physical conditions.3453-1 female 33Severe case of asthma with an attack lasting over 5 weeks.Cayce found lesions and sublaxations [spinal problems] to be the seat of the trouble, which required a long series of adjustments. With an added tip of mentioning when an attack was coming to use an inhalant, by using a compound tincture of benzoin and oil of eucalyptus- equal amounts in boiling water and place a cover over your head and then breathe in the fumes. Good eliminations were also advised.Dietary changes as already given – no sweets.This patient had 4 or more attacks and a further check reading was given which cayce pointed the finger at her diet as she had been having too much sweets and candies. These he said had caused these attacks.3485 male 51This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering from asthma since 5 yrs old.Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions.What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul must remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give for you will pay and as most through thy gills.Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was no having much effect.Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live.3738 male 10Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, the usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they were followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured.5360-male56Spinal Lesions were at the cause of the trouble again, but there was an interesting symptom in that there was a rapid heart beat which cayce found the cause to be strictures in the brachial centers.His health improved very much in short time it would appear.In Harold reillys book he mentions that people who used a balloon by inflating it improved the strength of their lungs which helped their asthma.Always and as ever spiritual healing/reiki has the capacity in overcoming this disease – see the article on this fascinating energy. This should be a part of every healing journeyFuller details can be found in Reba Ann karps book encyclopedia of healing ISBN 0446 30981-8 which gives lots of treatments on all manor of diseases. And the Edgar cayce handbook for health by Harold reilly and Ruth hagy brod Harold had 43 yrs working with the readings Isdn0-02601960-4 Obtained from the cayce center ARE or the heritage store, Virginia beachBooks and remedies can be obtained fromHome Health Products to Request a Catalogue : 1- The Heritage Store 314 Laskin Road Virginia Beach, VA 23451 To Request a Catalogue or place a Credit Card Order: 1-For more information about the A.R.E., visit http://www.edgarcayce.org If you are a member of the A.R.E., you can purchase or borrow a set of Cayce's readings by calling 1- USApGod bless you! Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 --- what kind of a person are you can you read ...... do you understand what has beed written to you.... i suggest you read the material sent to you at least 6 times and dont you misquote what has been sent to you after doing so either . there are many principles outlined here you took one out and try to make a mockery of it -mmn i thinks you need to learn a few basic manners and develop a little humility not to mention improve your appauling evaluation skills. to remind you - you asked for information ....and that is all the pointers you are getting . suffering can teach and by god you need to learn p In asthma , " " <sunshine49046@y...> wrote: > What are your qualifications to be telling me this is in my head, > my " gut " and my soul? Are you practicing medicine? May I see your > license to do so please? Do you have asthma? I came here looking > for advice from others with this disease and possibly some emotional > support and you tell me to take a colonic? Maybe you should watch > out for your own Karma. > > > SNIP > > Life conditioning and suggestion > > Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember > > Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually > the > > dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no > > food on offer. That is conditioning > > > > An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic > > to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though > you > > knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually > have > > asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a > > reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power > of > > suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you > were > > allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough > to > > start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from > > the repeated attacks from that stimuli. > > Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad > > experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that > > her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on > the > > phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of > > psychotherapy she got much better. > > > > Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even > the > > gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any > > airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was > significant > > narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the > > problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood > > when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the > > dustbin. > > In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the > > psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very > rare > > apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered > > from these kinds of stimuli. > > > > All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated > > beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past > > conditioning. > > > > According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in > > families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being > > passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases > the > > allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system > against > > a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. > > Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is > > then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing > > and other triggers. > > It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can > bring > > on an attack. > > > > > > Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma > > There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated > > 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement > > and harmony with our spiritual source > > > > 2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his > or > > her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting > > passively for healing to occur. > > > > 3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can > > hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts > > are real and have weight and value. > > 4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as > > palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary > > relief. > > > > 5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could > > bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not > > recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our > > health. > > > > Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves > > of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work. > > > > Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing > > Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble > it > > takes. > > 6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our > > own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions. > > > > 7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one > > which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma. > > > > 8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce > > gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have > its > > origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either > > lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures > > exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the > > cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved > > occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal > > misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress > or > > poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an > > asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins > > which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a > > reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the > > assimilation system would also come involved. > > > > An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs, > > this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up > > several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema > > and other disorders. > > A review of the circulating file on asthma > > > > In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe > > bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the > > bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another > case > > an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing > > conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried > > to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions > developing > > in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation > and > > elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells > > associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These > > have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, > > which have been affected. There are connections between the first > > second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory > system > > hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur. > > After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity > which > > most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli > > causing the problem. > > > > Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of > normal > > function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring > > about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming > > dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to > > produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the > > finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse > > stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the > bronchial > > dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic > adjustments > > should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The > > eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought > back > > to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and > > superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be > restored. > > The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. > > Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary > > adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe > > restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white > > bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits > > vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein. > > Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once > > monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. > > Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands > one > > drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three > > days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. > Then > > back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. > > These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with > > patience and persistence. > > Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although > it > > is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks > > would become less severe. > > Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 > mins > > is one suggestion. > > Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once > > every 6 hrs is another. > > Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain > alcohol > > add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine > > 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns. > > > > Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended > this > > Snipped > > > 3485 male 51 > > > This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering > from > > asthma since 5 yrs old. > > Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and > > stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if > > there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was > > meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions. > > > > What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul > must > > remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give > > for you will pay and as most through thy gills. > > Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving > > his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was > no > > having much effect. > > Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live. > > > > 3738 male 10 > > Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear > > from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, > the > > usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they > were > > followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured. > > Snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 --- what kind of a person are you can you read ...... do you understand what has beed written to you.... i suggest you read the material sent to you at least 6 times and dont you misquote what has been sent to you after doing so either . there are many principles outlined here you took one out and try to make a mockery of it -mmn i thinks you need to learn a few basic manners and develop a little humility not to mention improve your appauling evaluation skills. to remind you - you asked for information ....and that is all the pointers you are getting . suffering can teach and by god you need to learn p In asthma , " " <sunshine49046@y...> wrote: > What are your qualifications to be telling me this is in my head, > my " gut " and my soul? Are you practicing medicine? May I see your > license to do so please? Do you have asthma? I came here looking > for advice from others with this disease and possibly some emotional > support and you tell me to take a colonic? Maybe you should watch > out for your own Karma. > > > SNIP > > Life conditioning and suggestion > > Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember > > Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually > the > > dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was no > > food on offer. That is conditioning > > > > An example of suggestion would be telling people who were allergic > > to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though > you > > knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually > have > > asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a > > reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible power > of > > suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you > were > > allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough > to > > start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned from > > the repeated attacks from that stimuli. > > Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad > > experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed that > > her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on > the > > phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help of > > psychotherapy she got much better. > > > > Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even > the > > gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any > > airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was > significant > > narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually the > > problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in childhood > > when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the > > dustbin. > > In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when the > > psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very > rare > > apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely triggered > > from these kinds of stimuli. > > > > All of these examples only go to show that we are very complicated > > beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past > > conditioning. > > > > According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in > > families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem being > > passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases > the > > allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system > against > > a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. > > Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it is > > then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast breathing > > and other triggers. > > It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can > bring > > on an attack. > > > > > > Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma > > There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated > > 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from attunement > > and harmony with our spiritual source > > > > 2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his > or > > her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back waiting > > passively for healing to occur. > > > > 3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one can > > hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. Thoughts > > are real and have weight and value. > > 4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them as > > palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary > > relief. > > > > 5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could > > bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not > > recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in our > > health. > > > > Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid ourselves > > of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work. > > > > Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing > > Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble > it > > takes. > > 6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate our > > own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions. > > > > 7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but one > > which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma. > > > > 8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce > > gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have > its > > origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either > > lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures > > exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the > > cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were involved > > occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal > > misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress > or > > poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on an > > asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins > > which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a > > reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the > > assimilation system would also come involved. > > > > An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the lungs, > > this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing up > > several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, emphysema > > and other disorders. > > A review of the circulating file on asthma > > > > In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a severe > > bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in the > > bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another > case > > an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing > > conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body tried > > to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions > developing > > in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation > and > > elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells > > associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These > > have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, > > which have been affected. There are connections between the first > > second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory > system > > hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes occur. > > After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity > which > > most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli > > causing the problem. > > > > Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of > normal > > function and thus we would administer those therapies which bring > > about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming > > dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to > > produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the > > finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse > > stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the > bronchial > > dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic > adjustments > > should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. The > > eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought > back > > to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and > > superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be > restored. > > The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. > > Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary > > adjustments should be made, which are very important with a severe > > restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no white > > bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits > > vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein. > > Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once > > monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. > > Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands > one > > drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three > > days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. > Then > > back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. > > These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done with > > patience and persistence. > > Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although > it > > is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the attacks > > would become less severe. > > Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 > mins > > is one suggestion. > > Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once > > every 6 hrs is another. > > Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain > alcohol > > add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine > > 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns. > > > > Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended > this > > Snipped > > > 3485 male 51 > > > This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering > from > > asthma since 5 yrs old. > > Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and > > stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change if > > there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who was > > meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions. > > > > What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul > must > > remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to give > > for you will pay and as most through thy gills. > > Cayce would not give this man any information regarding improving > > his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was > no > > having much effect. > > Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live. > > > > 3738 male 10 > > Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would appear > > from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, > the > > usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they > were > > followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured. > > Snip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2005 Report Share Posted May 11, 2005 Please there is no need for these sort of abusive remarks on an asthma forum, this topic is way off line for the group and suggest it is forwarded to the moderator to deal with > --- what kind of a person are you > can you read ...... > do you understand what has beed written to you.... > > i suggest you read the material sent to you at least 6 times and > dont you misquote what has been sent to you after doing so either . > > there are many principles outlined here you took one out and try to > make a mockery of it -mmn i thinks you need to learn a few basic > manners and develop a little humility not to mention improve your > appauling evaluation skills. > to remind you - you asked for information ....and that is all the > pointers you are getting . > > suffering can teach and by god you need to learn > p > > > > In asthma , " " <sunshine49046@y...> wrote: >> What are your qualifications to be telling me this is in my head, >> my " gut " and my soul? Are you practicing medicine? May I see > your >> license to do so please? Do you have asthma? I came here looking >> for advice from others with this disease and possibly some > emotional >> support and you tell me to take a colonic? Maybe you should watch >> out for your own Karma. >> >> >> SNIP >>> Life conditioning and suggestion >>> Let me explain that term a little more, does anyone remember >>> Pavlov's dog who was fed food at the blow of a bell, eventually >> the >>> dog would salivate at the sound of a bell even though there was > no >>> food on offer. That is conditioning >>> >>> An example of suggestion would be telling people who were > allergic >>> to grass pollen that they were actually breathing it even though >> you >>> knew they were inhaling something harmless- some would actually >> have >>> asthma attacks. What is more telling them they were having a >>> reliever drug would stop the attack. Such is the incredible > power >> of >>> suggestion. What does this mean in the real world? Well if you >> were >>> allergic to cats and you saw one even if on the tv may be enough >> to >>> start you wheezing, if this occurs you have been conditioned > from >>> the repeated attacks from that stimuli. >>> Another real example was of a lady who had a particularly bad >>> experience when she was a child from her father. She noticed > that >>> her symptoms got worse whenever he was around even if he was on >> the >>> phone. She had been abused by her father. Gladly with the help > of >>> psychotherapy she got much better. >>> >>> Another asthmatic believed she was allergic to goldfish and even >> the >>> gold fish bowl –this is impossible, as they do not produce any >>> airborne irritants. However tests showed that there was >> significant >>> narrowing of her airways from both of that stimuli. Eventually > the >>> problem was traced to a particularly traumatic event in > childhood >>> when her mother took the child's goldfish and threw both in the >>> dustbin. >>> In both of these cases there was underlying asthma which when > the >>> psychological factor was added triggered a reaction. It is very >> rare >>> apparently to find an asthmatic that has attacks solely > triggered >>> from these kinds of stimuli. >>> >>> All of these examples only go to show that we are very > complicated >>> beings and are totally unaware at a conscious level of past >>> conditioning. >>> >>> According to Professor john brostoff Asthma can also run in >>> families, where he mentions a susceptibility to the problem > being >>> passed on usually in the form of certain allergies. In all cases >> the >>> allergy is a mistaken reaction by the bodies defence system >> against >>> a harmless substance such as pollen dust or particles from pets. >>> Once the airway has become inflamed by the allergic reaction it > is >>> then very sensitive to irritants such as cold air, fast > breathing >>> and other triggers. >>> It would seem that there are a variety of triggers, which can >> bring >>> on an attack. >>> >>> >>> Edgar Cayce approach to healing Asthma >>> There are quite a few principles which cayce advocated >>> 1.All healing comes from the infinite – that means from > attunement >>> and harmony with our spiritual source >>> >>> 2. At the same time each person must take responsibility for his >> or >>> her health and healing process. No one can simply sit back > waiting >>> passively for healing to occur. >>> >>> 3.All healing is the changing of the vibrations within no one > can >>> hate his neighbor and not get stomach upsets as a result. > Thoughts >>> are real and have weight and value. >>> 4.Cayce warned people about certain drugs and talked about them > as >>> palliatives that deceive the soul with half-truths and temporary >>> relief. >>> >>> 5 He also mentioned that the very best treatment procedure could >>> bring about a temporary worsening of conditions. If we did not >>> recognize this we could give up just as there was a change in > our >>> health. >>> >>> Emphasis was also placed upon self-acceptance. As we rid > ourselves >>> of self-condemnation we make room for healing forces to work. >>> >>> Optimism and hope .We are encouraged to expect healing >>> Patience, we must be willing to invest whatever time and trouble >> it >>> takes. >>> 6 We are encouraged to use creative visualization to stimulate > our >>> own healing, which usually takes more than a few sessions. >>> >>> 7.A commitment to a purposeful life .Not just any purpose but > one >>> which reflects care for other people. To help balance our karma. >>> >>> 8. There appears to be quite a few causes for this problem.Cayce >>> gave 73 readings for 23 people and specified the causes to have >> its >>> origin in the neuralgic stimuli which were touched off by either >>> lesions and adhesions in the bronchi and larynx or by pressures >>> exerted in the autonomic ganglia and their connections with the >>> cerebrospinal system. In other words spinal problems were > involved >>> occurring mainly in the dorsal and cervical area. Poor spinal >>> misalignments combined with certain other factors such as stress >> or >>> poor diet would also cause the bronchi to constrict bringing on > an >>> asthmatic attack. Frequently congestion would result and toxins >>> which were not fully eliminated from the lungs would cause a >>> reaction in the kidneys and liver. Glands associated with the >>> assimilation system would also come involved. >>> >>> An interesting exercise was mentioned for strengthening the > lungs, >>> this came I believe from Harold reilly he found that by blowing > up >>> several balloons a day this aided conditions of asthma, > emphysema >>> and other disorders. >>> A review of the circulating file on asthma >>> >>> In case 5004 asthma started when he was just a boy after a > severe >>> bout of flu, when he was delirious Lesions were formed here in > the >>> bronchi and the larynx as a result of the infection. In another >> case >>> an injury caused a lesion, which in turn created disturbing >>> conditions in the bronchial tree. When that part of the body > tried >>> to seal itself off inflammation came about with adhesions >> developing >>> in the bronchial tree. These in turn disturbed the assimilation >> and >>> elimination processes. Occasionally there will be dizzy spells >>> associated with the asthma or visual or auditory problems. These >>> have their origin in the same centers of control in the ganglia, >>> which have been affected. There are connections between the > first >>> second and third dorsal that connect directly to the sensory >> system >>> hence dizziness, auditory and visual problems can sometimes > occur. >>> After these lesions are once created the patterns of activity >> which >>> most people have tend to point the finger at external stimuli >>> causing the problem. >>> >>> Cayce made this statement that the body has the capability of >> normal >>> function and thus we would administer those therapies which > bring >>> about an activity from the body itself rather than becoming >>> dependent on supplies that are robbing portions of the system to >>> produce the affects which we are after. Cayce was pointing the >>> finger clearly at the nervous system and to remove any adverse >>> stimulating factors from pressures which may exist in the >> bronchial >>> dorsal and cervical ganglia thus a series of osteopathic >> adjustments >>> should be made and long enough for proper function to be made. > The >>> eliminations, which may have been disturbed, have to be brought >> back >>> to normal and in balance with the assimilations. The deep and >>> superficial circulation which is often disturbed should be >> restored. >>> The glands of the body should be brought also into balance. >>> Irritation of an external nature should be eliminated. Dietary >>> adjustments should be made, which are very important with a > severe >>> restriction of sweets, only honey once a day was allowed no > white >>> bread potatoes tomatoes or dried beans or rice. All fruits >>> vegetables and nuts were desirable Fowl of fish for protein. >>> Colonics should be given weekly for 2-3 weeks then perhaps once >>> monthly. Enemas could be used if colonics were not available. >>> Atomidine can be given in a series this is to balance the glands >> one >>> drop daily in half a glass of water for five days stop for three >>> days then to two drops daily for five days stop for three days. >> Then >>> back to one drop daily then a rest and start the regime again. >>> These factors applied in a therapeutic regime need to be done > with >>> patience and persistence. >>> Acute attacks of asthma were controlled in various ways although >> it >>> is implied that when other forms of therapy have begun the > attacks >>> would become less severe. >>> Calcidin 1-5 drops in 5 ounces of warm water sipped every 15-20 >> mins >>> is one suggestion. >>> Atomidine 6 drops in a tablespoon of water sipped entirely once >>> every 6 hrs is another. >>> Special inhalants were also advisee such as to 4 oz of grain >> alcohol >>> add oil of eucalyptus 20 mins, rectified oil of turpentine >>> 5mns,compund tincture of benzoin 15mns. >>> >>> Apple brandy fumes from a charred oak keg were also recommended >> this >> >> Snipped >> >>> 3485 male 51 >> >>> This case is as a lesson to us all, this man had been suffering >> from >>> asthma since 5 yrs old. >>> Cayce found that there was much confusion with this person and >>> stressed that the attitudes of this person would have to change > if >>> there was to see any kind of healing for here was a person who > was >>> meeting his own self or the result of selfs actions. >>> >>> What was demanded of others you must pay your self. Every soul >> must >>> remember not to demand of others more than you are willing to > give >>> for you will pay and as most through thy gills. >>> Cayce would not give this man any information regarding > improving >>> his health even knowing that what he was taking at that time was >> no >>> having much effect. >>> Cayce cautioned him to make the world a better place to live. >>> >>> 3738 male 10 >>> Cayce found lesions[ spinal problems] as a result it would > appear >>> from the manner of being born, which in turn caused the asthma, >> the >>> usual recommendations were made with a nice result in that they >> were >>> followed to the letter and as a result the asthma was cured. >> >> Snip > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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