Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Unless one has the money to pay for satellite service. There only choice is dial up. Many even then get limted speed then what is possable due to phone lines that are outdated. > > > You can choose to not receive group email. You can then log on to > > group site and read and write form there. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. But I understand others cannot get out.CE Grim MDOn Nov 15, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote: Unless one has the money to pay for satellite service. There only choice is dial up. Many even then get limted speed then what is possable due to phone lines that are outdated. > > > You can choose to not receive group email. You can then log on to > > group site and read and write form there. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Many in NH are 10 miles or more from places that might have high speed. Even there town libraries are to remote to have high speed. Also cell phones do not work in many places. > > > > > > > You can choose to not receive group email. You can then log on to > > > > group site and read and write form there. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 Life is hard up there.CE Grim MDOn Nov 15, 2011, at 9:43 AM, Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA wrote: Many in NH are 10 miles or more from places that might have high speed. Even there town libraries are to remote to have high speed. Also cell phones do not work in many places. > > > > > > > You can choose to not receive group email. You can then log on to > > > > group site and read and write form there. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2011 Report Share Posted November 15, 2011 I would expect that most states have this same problem. > > > > > > > > > > > You can choose to not receive group email. You can then log > > on to > > > > > > group site and read and write form there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries.I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take you and others seconds to make this group's posts not a burden to access?Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store.Donnaa multiple website admin since 1996Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@... Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. But I understand others cannot get out. CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Donna, I'm trying to determine what you are talking about when you say " cropping " . If you are talking about some of the extranious chit/chat, I can understand and agree. We often get way off topic and I am as guilty as the next but sometimes the conversation prompts others to recognize their situation. If you are talking about a thread that stays on subject and you just need the conclusion and not the half dozen posts leading up to it then I can't agree, it would be like buying a good mystery just so you could read the last chapter! I'm not sure of your problem with slow access and how impacted it is if you get the messages and determine wheather to access the whole message. (This of course means the thread needs to stay on subject.) This was quite an intresting question for me, I just came in from my remote hunting camp which is 2 miles off the grid. My son was laying on his bunk with his phone and when I asked what he was doing, he was reading his e-mail! Maybe there's hope for you remote people if it has reached the mountains of Vermont! - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all " McDs " have " free high speed " nor do all libraries. > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > Donna > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@... > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > CE Grim MD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 Currently archiving on yahoo is free. And searchable over 60000 as I recall. I would recommend doing a daily or weekly digest as a way to cut down on time as well. But not my area of expertise. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries.I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take you and others seconds to make this group's posts not a burden to access?Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store.Donnaa multiple website admin since 1996Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@... Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. But I understand others cannot get out. CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I think I cropped a bunch of messages once, but I took some imodium and it seemd to have went away The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take you and others seconds to make this group's posts not a burden to access? Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. Donna a multiple website admin since 1996 Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@... Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries.But I understand others cannot get out.CE Grim MD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 I think what she meant is when you want to reply to a message you press the " reply " button and the window appears and you type your message in the window. Usually you are typing above the message you are replying to. When in that reply window, use the arrow buttons and scroll down and DELETE the trailing of the message beyond what you are replying to. That's how you trim or " crop " the message to avoid repeating the same original message. HTH! > > Donna, I'm trying to determine what you are talking about when you say " cropping " . If you are talking about some of the extranious chit/chat, I can understand and agree. We often get way off topic and I am as guilty as the next but sometimes the conversation prompts others to recognize their situation. If you are talking about a thread that stays on subject and you just need the conclusion and not the half dozen posts leading up to it then I can't agree, it would be like buying a good mystery just so you could read the last chapter! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2011 Report Share Posted November 16, 2011 , The word I used is "trim". (Dr Grim gave this thread the "cropping" subject line.) To trim your email means to remove all the extraneous email material ATTACHED to YOUR email. Case in point: You email below has my email, as well as Dr Grim's, attached to the bottom of it. To give the reader of your email an idea of what you are speaking to you might want to include PART of what I wrote -OR- PART of what he wrote, but including ALL of what either of us wrote is generally unnecessary and including ALL of what we BOTH wrote is most assuredly unnecessary/extraneous.With thanks for the dialog,DonnaPosted by: " " jclark24p@... jclark24p Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:37 pm (PST) Donna, I'm trying to determine what you are talking about when you say "cropping". <snip> - 65 yo super ob. male <snip> > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > Donna > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@... > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > CE Grim MD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I think if we all trimmed postings then much information would not get posted. There can be a lot of information in long postings that may have taking a week to get it there. Then someone will trim most of it out thinking that there reply is the only one that is important. Then the rest of the information gets lost in the 30 or so emails that are posted a day. After 3 days and 90 postings it becomes very hard to remember what is in what postings. I find it much easier to go to group site and read and reply to posting there. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all " McDs " have " free high speed " nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I see your problem. You have requested a digest which packages the messages and sends as an email. If you open the messages you can read or ignore each message as you choose. I'm concerned if the person responding starts determining what is important to the next person I'm afraid it will start deluting the msg to the point of being of little value to anyone who has not ben with the thread from the start. In your example you trimmed my thumbnail because that was not important to you but I include it because Dr. Grim finds it important to know who I am. If I give an answer that may be dependent on one of the meds. I'm on and you have deleted them as not important to you the real answer may not be found w/o alot of research. Have you tried skipping the digest and reading messages directly? - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all " McDs " have " free high speed " nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Simple solution. We could get a "REAL" forum with threaded discussions. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: cropping of messages. I see your problem. You have requested a digest which packages the messages and sends as an email. If you open the messages you can read or ignore each message as you choose. I'm concerned if the person responding starts determining what is important to the next person I'm afraid it will start deluting the msg to the point of being of little value to anyone who has not ben with the thread from the start. In your example you trimmed my thumbnail because that was not important to you but I include it because Dr. Grim finds it important to know who I am. If I give an answer that may be dependent on one of the meds. I'm on and you have deleted them as not important to you the real answer may not be found w/o alot of research. Have you tried skipping the digest and reading messages directly? - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Are you volunteering to be the project leader and do the necessary design, setup, conversion, implementation and ongoing support? Is there a cost? Any training? Not saying it is a bad idea but my project design days ended in 1997 so you IT Gurus need to present a plan that us " dummys " can understand! - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > >> > > >> > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all " McDs " have " free high speed " nor do all libraries. > >> > > >> > > >> > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > >> > > >> > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > >> > > >> > > >> > Donna > >> > a multiple website admin since 1996 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ____________ _________ _________ __ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@ > >> > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > >> > > >> > > >> > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > >> > > >> > But I understand others cannot get out. > >> > > >> > CE Grim MD > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I think you can see messages by threadMay your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Simple solution. We could get a "REAL" forum with threaded discussions. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: cropping of messages. I see your problem. You have requested a digest which packages the messages and sends as an email. If you open the messages you can read or ignore each message as you choose. I'm concerned if the person responding starts determining what is important to the next person I'm afraid it will start deluting the msg to the point of being of little value to anyone who has not ben with the thread from the start. In your example you trimmed my thumbnail because that was not important to you but I include it because Dr. Grim finds it important to know who I am. If I give an answer that may be dependent on one of the meds. I'm on and you have deleted them as not important to you the real answer may not be found w/o alot of research. Have you tried skipping the digest and reading messages directly? - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Ah if I only had more time or got pAid for this service would be better. I do hire out as a 1-1 consultant to u and your health care team. $500 gets u unlimited access to my expertise for 1 year by phone email or Skype. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension , The word I used is "trim". (Dr Grim gave this thread the "cropping" subject line.) To trim your email means to remove all the extraneous email material ATTACHED to YOUR email. Case in point: You email below has my email, as well as Dr Grim's, attached to the bottom of it. To give the reader of your email an idea of what you are speaking to you might want to include PART of what I wrote -OR- PART of what he wrote, but including ALL of what either of us wrote is generally unnecessary and including ALL of what we BOTH wrote is most assuredly unnecessary/extraneous.With thanks for the dialog,DonnaPosted by: " " jclark24p@... jclark24p Wed Nov 16, 2011 3:37 pm (PST) Donna, I'm trying to determine what you are talking about when you say "cropping". <snip> - 65 yo super ob. male <snip> > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > Donna > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@... > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > CE Grim MD > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Yes, but if you want to reply straight from the web page, you have to cut and paste a signature all the time. I am not going to do that, so i use yahoo email with a signature setup. It is tough to track a thread that way. Perhaps what is needed is a profile upload directory where we each maintain our stories and meds, etc. Then if our posts always have the same email address, YOU can learn who we are and this "Thumbnail/signature" requirement thing can end. It might also be a place to maintain test results so over time you can see what our treatment has been and the results. A "real" profile. Maybe that exists now and i am not aware of it. I dont know. I am not complaining about how i get too many emails. I just delete what i dont want to follow. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 242lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Inspra, 40meq Potassium, 2400mg Calcium, 1000mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammation (from potassium citrate)Other Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower Pole, Right Flank PainDASH: Started "sort of" DASHing 5/3/2011Status: Last Urine K/Na ratio was 1.1. But total of Na high alsoInitial Presenting Symptom: Muscle twitching all over body with low normal K, Mg, Ca, Low Ionized Ca, High PTH, low Vitamin DTo: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: cropping of messages. I think you can see messages by threadMay your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Simple solution. We could get a "REAL" forum with threaded discussions. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: cropping of messages. I see your problem. You have requested a digest which packages the messages and sends as an email. If you open the messages you can read or ignore each message as you choose. I'm concerned if the person responding starts determining what is important to the next person I'm afraid it will start deluting the msg to the point of being of little value to anyone who has not ben with the thread from the start. In your example you trimmed my thumbnail because that was not important to you but I include it because Dr. Grim finds it important to know who I am. If I give an answer that may be dependent on one of the meds. I'm on and you have deleted them as not important to you the real answer may not be found w/o alot of research. Have you tried skipping the digest and reading messages directly? - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 It's kind of unreal to ask the Pro. that is providing a free service to double his effort isn't it? - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > >>>> > > >>>> > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all " McDs " have " free high speed " nor do all libraries. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > >>>> > > >>>> > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Donna > >>>> > a multiple website admin since 1996 > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > ____________ _________ _________ __ > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@ > >>>> > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > >>>> > > >>>> > But I understand others cannot get out. > >>>> > > >>>> > CE Grim MD > >>>> > > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Ideally we would have a proper electronic medical record system. These cost hundreds of thousands to buy. I can help set one up using FileMaker Pro. But will take a lot of work to get it set up. It would generate a report you could take to your drs May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Yes, but if you want to reply straight from the web page, you have to cut and paste a signature all the time. I am not going to do that, so i use yahoo email with a signature setup. It is tough to track a thread that way. Perhaps what is needed is a profile upload directory where we each maintain our stories and meds, etc. Then if our posts always have the same email address, YOU can learn who we are and this "Thumbnail/signature" requirement thing can end. It might also be a place to maintain test results so over time you can see what our treatment has been and the results. A "real" profile. Maybe that exists now and i am not aware of it. I dont know. I am not complaining about how i get too many emails. I just delete what i dont want to follow. ============================================================================45-Male-Caucasian, 5'9"- 242lbs, PA Diagnosed 2007 Suspected Hyperplasia-No tumors on CT - No AVS.Meds: 50mg Inspra, 40meq Potassium, 2400mg Calcium, 1000mg Magnesium, 100,000UI Vit D (weekly), 20mg OmeprazoleSide effects: Gynecomastia, stomach inflammation (from potassium citrate)Other Diags: GERD, Hiatal Hernia, Metabolic Syndrome - PreDiabetic, Secondary Hyperparathyroidism caused by Renal calcium leak, Bone Cyct in left Femoral Head and Pelvis. Benign Lung Nodules, Fibromyalgia, Scarring on Right Kidney Lower Pole, Right Flank PainDASH: Started "sort of" DASHing 5/3/2011Status: Last Urine K/Na ratio was 1.1. But total of Na high alsoInitial Presenting Symptom: Muscle twitching all over body with low normal K, Mg, Ca, Low Ionized Ca, High PTH, low Vitamin DTo: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:21 PMSubject: Re: Re: cropping of messages. I think you can see messages by threadMay your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Simple solution. We could get a "REAL" forum with threaded discussions. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 10:56 AMSubject: Re: cropping of messages. I see your problem. You have requested a digest which packages the messages and sends as an email. If you open the messages you can read or ignore each message as you choose. I'm concerned if the person responding starts determining what is important to the next person I'm afraid it will start deluting the msg to the point of being of little value to anyone who has not ben with the thread from the start. In your example you trimmed my thumbnail because that was not important to you but I include it because Dr. Grim finds it important to know who I am. If I give an answer that may be dependent on one of the meds. I'm on and you have deleted them as not important to you the real answer may not be found w/o alot of research. Have you tried skipping the digest and reading messages directly? - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (30) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I completely agree with Francis. If everybody is going to trim messages voluntarily, all of us would lose some important information. Sometimes the first posting was much more important than last 10 ones. Natalia To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:20 AMSubject: Re: cropping of messages. I think if we all trimmed postings then much information would not get posted. There can be a lot of information in long postings that may have taking a week to get it there. Then someone will trim most of it out thinking that there reply is the only one that is important. Then the rest of the information gets lost in the 30 or so emails that are posted a day. After 3 days and 90 postings it becomes very hard to remember what is in what postings. I find it much easier to go to group site and read and reply to posting there. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Very interesting conversation because I started a forum 10 days ago! http://www.hyperaldosterone.com ( the other domain wasnt available) Let me know what you think and feel free to join in! It does have a little bit more options than yahoo. I think it will also let you put in a permanent signature Phyllis  I completely agree with Francis. If everybody is going to trim messages voluntarily, all of us would lose some important information. Sometimes the first posting was much more important than last 10 ones.  Natalia From: Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Re: cropping of messages.  I think if we all trimmed postings then much information would not get posted. There can be a lot of information in long postings that may have taking a week to get it there. Then someone will trim most of it out thinking that there reply is the only one that is important. Then the rest of the information gets lost in the 30 or so emails that are posted a day. After 3 days and 90 postings it becomes very hard to remember what is in what postings. I find it much easier to go to group site and read and reply to posting there. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all " McDs " have " free high speed " nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 I tired 8 times and could not get pAst the word entry step. Too hard. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Very interesting conversation because I started a forum 10 days ago! http://www.hyperaldosterone.com ( the other domain wasnt available) Let me know what you think and feel free to join in! It does have a little bit more options than yahoo. I think it will also let you put in a permanent signature Phyllis I completely agree with Francis. If everybody is going to trim messages voluntarily, all of us would lose some important information. Sometimes the first posting was much more important than last 10 ones. Natalia From: Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Re: cropping of messages. I think if we all trimmed postings then much information would not get posted. There can be a lot of information in long postings that may have taking a week to get it there. Then someone will trim most of it out thinking that there reply is the only one that is important. Then the rest of the information gets lost in the 30 or so emails that are posted a day. After 3 days and 90 postings it becomes very hard to remember what is in what postings. I find it much easier to go to group site and read and reply to posting there. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2011 Report Share Posted November 17, 2011 Nov 18, 2011 03:17:32 AM, hyperaldosteronism wrote: =========================================== You mean the captcha! This is to prevent spam  I tired 8 times and could  not get pAst the word entry step. Too hard. May your pressure be low! CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension  Very interesting conversation because I started a forum 10 days ago! http://www.hyperaldosterone.com ( the other domain wasnt available) Let me know what you think and feel free to join in! It does have a little bit more options than yahoo. I think it will also let you put in a permanent signature Phyllis  I completely agree with Francis. If everybody is going to trim messages voluntarily, all of us would lose some important information. Sometimes the first posting was much more important than last 10 ones.  Natalia From: Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Re: cropping of messages.  I think if we all trimmed postings then much information would not get posted. There can be a lot of information in long postings that may have taking a week to get it there. Then someone will trim most of it out thinking that there reply is the only one that is important. Then the rest of the information gets lost in the 30 or so emails that are posted a day. After 3 days and 90 postings it becomes very hard to remember what is in what postings. I find it much easier to go to group site and read and reply to posting there. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all " McDs " have " free high speed " nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: " Clarence Grim " lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 It sure prevented me from signing on. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Nov 18, 2011 03:17:32 AM, hyperaldosteronism wrote: =========================================== You mean the captcha! This is to prevent spam I tired 8 times and could not get pAst the word entry step. Too hard. May your pressure be low! CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Very interesting conversation because I started a forum 10 days ago! http://www.hyperaldosterone.com ( the other domain wasnt available) Let me know what you think and feel free to join in! It does have a little bit more options than yahoo. I think it will also let you put in a permanent signature Phyllis I completely agree with Francis. If everybody is going to trim messages voluntarily, all of us would lose some important information. Sometimes the first posting was much more important than last 10 ones. Natalia From: Francis Bill SUSPECTED PA To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Re: cropping of messages. I think if we all trimmed postings then much information would not get posted. There can be a lot of information in long postings that may have taking a week to get it there. Then someone will trim most of it out thinking that there reply is the only one that is important. Then the rest of the information gets lost in the 30 or so emails that are posted a day. After 3 days and 90 postings it becomes very hard to remember what is in what postings. I find it much easier to go to group site and read and reply to posting there. > > > > The closest Starbucks to me is 50 miles away and not all "McDs" have "free high speed" nor do all libraries. > > > > > > I'm curious why you think I, and others, should have to seek high speed Internet access elsewhere in order to access this group's posts just so you and others don't have to trim your posts? Why is it okay to expect us to take an hour out of our day to access this group's posts when it would only take youand othersseconds to make this group's postsnot a burden to access? > > > > Just the other day you were talking about archiving this group's posts. I hope you have deep pockets, because the weight of all these untrimmed messages will cost you more than just a bit to store. > > > > > > Donna > > a multiple website admin since 1996 > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Clarence Grim" lowerbp2@ > > Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:18 am (PST) > > > > > > McDs and Starbucks have free high speed to mention a few. And you dont even need to buy anything. Not to mention libraries. > > > > But I understand others cannot get out. > > > > CE Grim MD > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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