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Sounds like you've been there/ done that . And not only is cost an issue,

scheduling is often a problem. When you find out on thurday where you are going

to be the next week it's often hard to schedule, especially when the doc is

scheduling a month or more out! Hate to give up a multi-day trip because you

have a physical scheduled in the middle of it.

Have you considered mobile unit and taking the test to them? Probably could

make a good living by visiting a few truck stops!

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> > > DASH. . Current

> > > > > > > > > > > BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap

> > > settings 13/19,

> > > > > > > > > > > DM2, and PTSD.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol

> > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg

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I have marveled many a time while eating at truck stops that most of their

buffets have untold amounts of starchy offeringw, but usually only 1 green

vegetable and yhe salad bar. So, it's no small wonder truckers suffer from

weight issues. (Part of the new DOT physical includes measuring the neck in an

effort to root out sleep apnea.)

Something else I'd love to see at truck stops would be tread mills. After being

stuck in a seat all day a nice walk on tread mill would be most welcomed.

Donna

--- Clarence Grim wrote:

Just read about the obesity problem in truckers only mosty fattening food. We

need to start a DASH and Drive program. Could prob get funding for an

educational program

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I respectfully disagree with your basic premise that drivers can walk somewhere

to get fresh fruit, etc. It's not easy to pull 63' of tractor-trailer into the

average parking lot and most stores have signs or some kind of deterent to keep

rigs out of their parking lots. Even Walmart keep us out in some places. And

forget driving around looking for a 'friendly' parking lot!

As for space for a refrigerator, I've had an electric ice chest in my sleeper

for years. Even those have to be restocked occasionally. My sister team drives

and their company rig is set in such a way that space is even more of a premium

than mine. She barely has room for a tiny ice chest.

As for your comments about a treadmill, I am dumbfounded. You want us to

exercise, but paying to use a treadmill is asking too much?!?! Instead I should,

as a female, walk around a parking lot at 2 or 3 in the morning, with tired

drivers circling around in big rigs, looking for a place to park??? Talk about

trolling for trouble! Trust me, when the facility has some sort of green zone w/

decent lighting (or even a quiet, safe area) & I have the time, I take full

advantage, but those are few & far between.

Donna

Driving a truck since '79

--- Bingham wrote:

Of course you do know the other argument could be........it's your (or whoever)

arm that picks up the fork. A trucker could go into a grocery store and walk

(exercise) while buying some fruits and veggies and even maybe a decent healthy

deli sandwich. The OTR gang seem to be able to put refridgerators, DVD systems,

good TV's, and so on in the truck. Why not good food?

>  

> There is no law that a trucker is required to eat at a truck stop, or that

they have to buy only what's fattening. And Jumping jacks could always be done

just outside the truck and are free - I see many a trucker at the truck stops

inside, buying lottery tickets, putting some coins in the slots, etc. If there's

time for that there's at least a little time to take some stock in one's self.

Jump roping for 10-15 minutes is equal to jogging for an hour and does not need

a treadmill! 

>  

> Sorry, truck drivers are like the rest of us (except I'd bet the general

population uses a bit less stimulants) they like fast food to eat, that's why

they eat it, and they don't like exercise, that's why they don't do it. Problem

is, their life is more sedate than the average joe who even in an office tends

to get up more and walk around. And I'd bet again, because of their isolation

sometimes on a highway, they might have LESS access to fast food than does the

office worker who may have 10 fast food joints in the same complex they work.

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When I first started driving a bus I was " deadheding " with some other drivers

when we passed a restraunt with a bunch of trucks and made a comment that it

must have good food. One of the other drivers, a former OTR truck driver, said

" No,they just have a big parking lot! "

Their fastfood availability is usually resolved at the reststops on major

highways. Let me know how many you see that don't have a fastfood joint, coffee

shop and doughnut shop!

>

> Just read about the obesity problem in truckers only mosty fattening food. We

need to start a DASH and Drive program. Could prob get funding for an

educational program

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You beat me on this one, Donna! Sounds like you drove one of the " shorties " at

63', I assume the tractor is atleast 20' and add a 53' trailer you are close to

75'! (We won't talk about doubles here!)

My bus was only 45' and didn't bend in the middle so it was easier but we still

got kicked out of parking lots when we were empty because the owner didn't want

to scare customers away because they thought we had brought 50 extra

diners/shoppers! Ofcourse if we were loaded just about every restarant in the

land will comp the bus driver! WOW, FREE McDONALDS I didn't even go in if I had

other options!

I have to share the year my employer marked me down for health reasons, probably

after I had my TIA. He got an earfull since I had spent over $6000 (mostly ins.

money) on a sleep study and bi-pap machine which I carried on EVERY o/n trip! I

suggested he cover half of the out-of-pocket expense for such a test but he

never did! Wonder what he does now that DOT has changed the rules!

>

> Of course you do know the other argument could be........it's your (or

whoever) arm that picks up the fork. A trucker could go into a grocery store and

walk (exercise) while buying some fruits and veggies and even maybe a decent

healthy deli sandwich. The OTR gang seem to be able to put refridgerators, DVD

systems, good TV's, and so on in the truck. Why not good food?

> >  

> > There is no law that a trucker is required to eat at a truck stop, or that

they have to buy only what's fattening. And Jumping jacks could always be done

just outside the truck and are free - I see many a trucker at the truck stops

inside, buying lottery tickets, putting some coins in the slots, etc. If there's

time for that there's at least a little time to take some stock in one's self.

Jump roping for 10-15 minutes is equal to jogging for an hour and does not need

a treadmill! 

> >  

> > Sorry, truck drivers are like the rest of us (except I'd bet the general

population uses a bit less stimulants) they like fast food to eat, that's why

they eat it, and they don't like exercise, that's why they don't do it. Problem

is, their life is more sedate than the average joe who even in an office tends

to get up more and walk around. And I'd bet again, because of their isolation

sometimes on a highway, they might have LESS access to fast food than does the

office worker who may have 10 fast food joints in the same complex they work.

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I own a single axle w/ a stand up sleeper & a 9' deck w/ chain rack on back. My

trailer is a 48' stepdeck flatbed (5th wheel hitch). I haul mostly oilfield

equipment and have been from coast to coast and from deepest South Texas to Nova

Scotia.

I understand your no bend very well. I once was licensed to drive a 72 passenger

school bus so I could take our 4H group on field trips, plus I drove a bobtail

grain truck on the farm that netted 30,000#.

Dang! Never thought about a bus not being wanted! And I'll bet weren't either.

When I see them I head on down the road.

Ugh! A bi-pap on a bus trip. Yuck! Drag it in and out every time you needed

it.... Bet you're glad those days are over.

Donna

also licensed for tanker & haz-mat

--- " " wrote:

You beat me on this one, Donna! Sounds like you drove one of the " shorties " at

63', I assume the tractor is atleast 20' and add a 53' trailer you are close to

75'! (We won't talk about doubles here!)

My bus was only 45' and didn't bend in the middle so it was easier but we still

got kicked out of parking lots when we were empty because the owner didn't want

to scare customers away because they thought we had brought 50 extra

diners/shoppers! Ofcourse if we were loaded just about every restarant in the

land will comp the bus driver! WOW, FREE McDONALDS I didn't even go in if I had

other options!

I have to share the year my employer marked me down for health reasons,

probably after I had my TIA. He got an earfull since I had spent over $6000

(mostly ins. money) on a sleep study and bi-pap machine which I carried on EVERY

o/n trip! I suggested he cover half of the out-of-pocket expense for such a

test but he never did! Wonder what he does now that DOT has changed the rules!

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Oh, I tried to catch high class tours so we ate at the high end places. 3-5

course meals twice a day solved that issue!

You must have a child or two in school, if you don't do home schooling. Next

time they take the bus on a class (and quite possibly athletic) trip ask them

where their food stops were. 95% of the time it will be fast food, 4.9% of the

time Subway or Pizza Joint and the rest of the time it will be a quick stop

where they can stock up on real junk food! (Speaking of atheletic trips, that

meal designed for a hockey team to be prepared for a game is probably exactly

what a 200+ lb bus driver needs to have enough energy to sit and watch the

game!)

The driver's option is s/he can eat any place they desire as long as they drive

to the place, find a parking place, eat and return in less than 45 minutes.

Bringing it from home is an option but probably not any more healthy after 4 or

5 days without refrigeration! Microwave is not an option although I understand

some heat it on the engine, a trick I never tried.

Every parent should be required to chaperone atleast one trip so they can

experience the lessons learned! Maybe they would be inclined to attend a school

board meeting or two!

Writing this caused me to think of another course for Dr. Grim after he teaches

them how to take their BP. Demonstrating proper nutrition! We teach it to

them. Mandidate a more healthy cafeteria and even give them 22 minutes to get

there, eat and get to their next class where they will probably sit and snooze.

Then we demonstrate how to accomplish all this by stopping at MickeyD's so we

can have an extra 15 minutes at the amusement park! Talk about Life Long

Learning, this is the American Way!

Maybe we should mandidate a 15 min. exersize period for every student AND

TEACHER after lunch. Wait, I lost my head for a minute, the union would never

let me include teachers. Maybe we can offer them " life points " by adding $$$ to

their Health Spending Account for every session they complete! (Would the

government let me give them tax free money?) Can you imagine the teachers and

children walking around the track for 15 mins. after lunch? If the exersize

didn't kill them the fresh air and sunshine would probably make them sick!

I must close for now, I've got to go prepare my campaign for school board (It

will have to be Elementary School this time, already did 7 years on the High

School board!)

Thanks for letting me vent you are a heck of alot cheaper than my Psyco

Docs!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin

2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > Just read about the obesity problem in truckers only mosty fattening food.

We need to start a DASH and Drive program. Could prob get funding for an

educational program

> >

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If the truck doesn't start, they won't get your fruits and nuts to you so there

goes your DASH! Meet me a Mcs and we will talk about it!

> >

> > Of course you do know the other argument could be........it's your

> > (or whoever) arm that picks up the fork. A trucker could go into a

> > grocery store and walk (exercise) while buying some fruits and

> > veggies and even maybe a decent healthy deli sandwich. The OTR

> > gang seem to be able to put refridgerators, DVD systems, good TV's,

> > and so on in the truck. Why not good food?

> > > Â

> > > There is no law that a trucker is required to eat at a truck stop,

> > or that they have to buy only what's fattening. And Jumping jacks

> > could always be done just outside the truck and are free - I see

> > many a trucker at the truck stops inside, buying lottery tickets,

> > putting some coins in the slots, etc. If there's time for that

> > there's at least a little time to take some stock in one's self.

> > Jump roping for 10-15 minutes is equal to jogging for an hour and

> > does not need a treadmill!Â

> > > Â

> > > Sorry, truck drivers are like the rest of us (except I'd bet the

> > general population uses a bit less stimulants) they like fast food

> > to eat, that's why they eat it, and they don't like exercise, that's

> > why they don't do it. Problem is, their life is more sedate than the

> > average joe who even in an office tends to get up more and walk

> > around. And I'd bet again, because of their isolation sometimes on a

> > highway, they might have LESS access to fast food than does the

> > office worker who may have 10 fast food joints in the same complex

> > they work.

> >

> >

> >

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I'm afraid Mr. Cain might have something else to deal with right now! (I know I

would if I needed to have his discussion with my wife, she would complete my

gender change! Not to worry, same sex marriage is legal in Vermont!!!)

Got to order the vegetable for dinner, probably the Deluxe Supreme is the most

healthy, should I take the extra meat option?

God life is good! Thanks !

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> > > > Just read about the obesity problem in truckers only mosty

> > fattening food. We need to start a DASH and Drive program. Could

> > prob get funding for an educational program

> > > >

> > >

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Is that with or w/o catsup? Does the oatmeal meal include hashbrowns? (Just

need to know how much " will power " to bring with me!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin

2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

> > > >

> > > > Of course you do know the other argument could be........it's your

> > > > (or whoever) arm that picks up the fork. A trucker could go into a

> > > > grocery store and walk (exercise) while buying some fruits and

> > > > veggies and even maybe a decent healthy deli sandwich. The OTR

> > > > gang seem to be able to put refridgerators, DVD systems, good

> > TV's,

> > > > and so on in the truck. Why not good food?

> > > > > Â

> > > > > There is no law that a trucker is required to eat at a truck

> > stop,

> > > > or that they have to buy only what's fattening. And Jumping jacks

> > > > could always be done just outside the truck and are free - I see

> > > > many a trucker at the truck stops inside, buying lottery tickets,

> > > > putting some coins in the slots, etc. If there's time for that

> > > > there's at least a little time to take some stock in one's self.

> > > > Jump roping for 10-15 minutes is equal to jogging for an hour and

> > > > does not need a treadmill!Â

> > > > > Â

> > > > > Sorry, truck drivers are like the rest of us (except I'd bet the

> > > > general population uses a bit less stimulants) they like fast food

> > > > to eat, that's why they eat it, and they don't like exercise,

> > that's

> > > > why they don't do it. Problem is, their life is more sedate than

> > the

> > > > average joe who even in an office tends to get up more and walk

> > > > around. And I'd bet again, because of their isolation sometimes

> > on a

> > > > highway, they might have LESS access to fast food than does the

> > > > office worker who may have 10 fast food joints in the same complex

> > > > they work.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Why did Dominos laugh when I asked?

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> > > > > > Just read about the obesity problem in truckers only mosty

> > > > fattening food. We need to start a DASH and Drive program. Could

> > > > prob get funding for an educational program

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Me neither if I am in Canada and can get Poutine. Now those people really how

to control their diet!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin

2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Of course you do know the other argument could

> > be........it's your

> > > > > > (or whoever) arm that picks up the fork. A trucker could go

> > into a

> > > > > > grocery store and walk (exercise) while buying some fruits and

> > > > > > veggies and even maybe a decent healthy deli sandwich. The

> > OTR

> > > > > > gang seem to be able to put refridgerators, DVD systems, good

> > > > TV's,

> > > > > > and so on in the truck. Why not good food?

> > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > There is no law that a trucker is required to eat at a truck

> > > > stop,

> > > > > > or that they have to buy only what's fattening. And Jumping

> > jacks

> > > > > > could always be done just outside the truck and are free - I

> > see

> > > > > > many a trucker at the truck stops inside, buying lottery

> > tickets,

> > > > > > putting some coins in the slots, etc. If there's time for that

> > > > > > there's at least a little time to take some stock in one's

> > self.

> > > > > > Jump roping for 10-15 minutes is equal to jogging for an

> > hour and

> > > > > > does not need a treadmill!Â

> > > > > > > Â

> > > > > > > Sorry, truck drivers are like the rest of us (except I'd

> > bet the

> > > > > > general population uses a bit less stimulants) they like

> > fast food

> > > > > > to eat, that's why they eat it, and they don't like exercise,

> > > > that's

> > > > > > why they don't do it. Problem is, their life is more sedate

> > than

> > > > the

> > > > > > average joe who even in an office tends to get up more and

> > walk

> > > > > > around. And I'd bet again, because of their isolation

> > sometimes

> > > > on a

> > > > > > highway, they might have LESS access to fast food than does

> > the

> > > > > > office worker who may have 10 fast food joints in the same

> > complex

> > > > > > they work.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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My doctor congratulated me for seeking help before I had an accident when I went

in for my first sstudy. He indicated over 50% of the professional drivers he

saw were referred after an accident. Maybe a good reason for dot to change the

rules!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin

2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

> >

> > You beat me on this one, Donna! Sounds like you drove one of the

> > " shorties " at 63', I assume the tractor is atleast 20' and add a 53'

> > trailer you are close to 75'! (We won't talk about doubles here!)

> >

> > My bus was only 45' and didn't bend in the middle so it was easier

> > but we still got kicked out of parking lots when we were empty

> > because the owner didn't want to scare customers away because they

> > thought we had brought 50 extra diners/shoppers! Ofcourse if we were

> > loaded just about every restarant in the land will comp the bus

> > driver! WOW, FREE McDONALDS I didn't even go in if I had other

> > options!

> >

> > I have to share the year my employer marked me down for health

> > reasons, probably after I had my TIA. He got an earfull since I had

> > spent over $6000 (mostly ins. money) on a sleep study and bi-pap

> > machine which I carried on EVERY o/n trip! I suggested he cover half

> > of the out-of-pocket expense for such a test but he never did!

> > Wonder what he does now that DOT has changed the rules!

> >

> >

>

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