Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 It would seem that the VA doesn't spend the money on them as they seem to be in short supply in WRJ. Every time they wan;t to check my O2 they seem to only have one they all use. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 And where us the evidence that providing home O2 improves health, risk of hospitalization? At $600 a month this is no small issue for the VA and patients. Good for those who make the devices. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Interesting. When I asked the doctor at the VA if we should check my nocturnal O she felt it would be safe to just discontinue. (I have since done some "testing" and usually my O runs ~95%. When I am on my bi-pap machine it goes up to 97-98%! Just have to take a "leap of faith" that it stays there, at least I haven't woken up dead!! Another interesting fact is when I asked the VA about providing one they told me they were too expensive! Makes me wonder how long they would have taken to determine that I didn't need supplemental O if I hadn't told them. Could have bought a few since they were paying $587/mo for my Oxygen! BTW I think they discourage it because a lot of PTNs would be alarmed by some of the fluctuation, besides who would wanr an educated consumer! - 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank & testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I like this statement A pulse oximeter gives no indication of a patient's ventilation, only of the oxygenation status, and, thus, can give a false sense of security related to ventilation status with the administration of supplemental oxygen. Again just like the auto PB has made our PCP lazy. I have been to ED many times due to shortness of breath They can see I am having problems. Take me for a walk put oximeter on me shows 100% tell me I am deconditioned. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I am beginning to think my shortness of breath or Hyperventilation is due to my need to correct my CO2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm surprised, when do they want to check? They automatically checked mine everytime I checked in and recorded the flow rate setting I was on when I was on O. Kalie, Team 4 Tech,still does it when she does BP, it is part of the same machine. I've also had it don at desk 80 and WMF. Dr. Webster was working in WMF when she DXed me and she had no problem coming up with a portable that day. Now, if you out of the blue ask your treating physician for no apparent reason s/he might see no reason for it and find it hard to locate one. Since you appear to own one, you could ask your tech to verify the accuracy and see if they can come up with one! Do you have a HX of low oxygen? - 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank & testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 I'm a little confused, are you suggesting a " normal reading " of ~82% is healthy and no need for supplemental oxygen? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Huh?Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Thanks, I thought I must have missed something! If the VA doesn't supply a $30 oximeter, how would the Vet know? Part of the issue might also be the DX - whodathunk that COPD would correct? In fact, since I had been smoke free for over 6 years, why didn't they do further testing instead of taking a PFT report of 65% and RX O and stop? And now that you've got me started, why didn't the Neprologist persue the underlying cause before DXing CKD? He was more intrested in getting me on an ACEI! (He will get a copy of the U. of British Columbia's 2002 article, "Anemia and left ventricular hypertrophy in chronic kidney disease populations: A review of the current state of knowledge") I find it interesting this is 10 years old, have we learned anything in those ensuing years? I found the statement, "Small studies suggest that early intervention may be of benefit, but that late intervention may be of limited value." And while I'm on a roll, why didn't someone follow up when a Howe, a Nurse Practioner, reported, "new onset systolic murmur heard best right sternal boarder" I knew she was concerned, she stayed with me and even took BP in the waiting room. BP was so high she admitted me to ER and entered that comment at 1759 on 6/14/06! Actually guess they did with an ECHO on 8/16/06. Results, among other: There is mild concentric left ventricular hypertrophy." 1. Poor quality study, 2. Overall LV systolic function is probably normal. No obvious WMAs, however, poor endocardial visualization - cannot exclude Mild concentric LVH. 3. Normal RV size and function. 4. No hemodynamically significant valvular abnormalities. Or the stress test on 1/31/07 ECG - arrhythmias noted during exercise: isolated PVCs. Images - image quality is patchy. -The LV chamber appears dilated at rest (LVEDV = 183 cc). Guess the score is zero for three, in fact it's too bad the NP wasn't in charge, bet she would have figured it out. She did suggest lasix which was also ignored! Don't get me started or we will be here all night! ;>) I find it interesting that the VA will pay for my hearing aid batteries but won't provide batteries for my blood glucose meter or BP Cuff! My healthcare is probably more dependent on the latter two! - 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank & testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > > Messages in this topic (27) > > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 4 > > Visit Your Group > > MARKETPLACE > > Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > Reply to sender | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 The glucose cannot be interpreted unless we know when u last ate anything?Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension I would guess if they draw blood a for K test while you are hyperventerlating based on this statment. Your test for K would be higher then true blood K. H+/K+ exchange Crying and hyperventilation will either increase or decrease the plasma potassium, depending on its duration. Hyperventilation (including crying) for three to six minutes causes an acute alkalosis and a rapid shift of potassium ions into the plasma. It is postulated that the source of the potassium is the intestines and liver. The increase in potassium during this phase averaged 1.2 mmol/L. I went to ED last Sat. they drew my blood while I was hyperventerlating. This test showed k as being normal at 3.9. Reference Range: (3.5-5.0) My GLUCOSE was High 131. Reference Range: (65-100) PHOSPHATE was low 2.1 Reference Range: (2.5-5.0) On 17 Feb 2011 Ed visit PHOSPHATE was low 2.3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 60L per min will kill most with COPD. MUST have numbers wrong. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension I am the primary caretaker of my mother-in-law, who has advanced lung disease (pulmonary fibrosis). After 6 months of being in the hospital and being on as much as 60L of O2, we were able to ween her down to 15-18L of O2 before she was discharged. I was amazed at the amount of medication, therapy, home health care, oxygen & equipment, etc. that she needed. Medicare and her Medicare supplement policy paid for almost the whole thing . . . yet would NOT pay for the cost of a pulse ox. Crazy! One would think that this type of patient would indeed have the cost of this vital piece of equipment covered by insurance. They would not budge. Wouldn't covering this actually save money in that it would help the patient monitor how much O2 they need and not overdoing it? Wouldn't this piece of equipment be vital in that it would give a clear picture of how the patient is doing - with early intervention helping to avoid crisis intervention? The good news . . . after 4 years of being in our home and having her health monitored, she is now down to 4L on exertion on a trans-trach line (TTO2). So it's not just the VA . . . it's the state of our union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Were actually a republic. If majority ruled wed be in serious troubleSent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint Talk to your representative. It's a democracy u know. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension I am the primary caretaker of my mother-in-law, who has advanced lung disease (pulmonary fibrosis). After 6 months of being in the hospital and being on as much as 60L of O2, we were able to ween her down to 15-18L of O2 before she was discharged. I was amazed at the amount of medication, therapy, home health care, oxygen & equipment, etc. that she needed. Medicare and her Medicare supplement policy paid for almost the whole thing . . . yet would NOT pay for the cost of a pulse ox. Crazy! One would think that this type of patient would indeed have the cost of this vital piece of equipment covered by insurance. They would not budge. Wouldn't covering this actually save money in that it would help the patient monitor how much O2 they need and not overdoing it? Wouldn't this piece of equipment be vital in that it would give a clear picture of how the patient is doing - with early intervention helping to avoid crisis intervention? The good news . . . after 4 years of being in our home and having her health monitored, she is now down to 4L on exertion on a trans-trach line (TTO2). So it's not just the VA . . . it's the state of our union. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2011 Report Share Posted October 4, 2011 Did I get carried away and confuse you? Guess I got carried away when I thought of them missing the reason for needing Oxygen so I threw in the opportunities they had to DX LVH and missed (3 times) and a potential Heart Murmur! (The doctor kept trying to convince himself that he didn't see what he was really seeing!) - 64 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank & testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 15 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > > > > Messages in this topic (27) > > > > RECENT ACTIVITY: New Members 4 > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > MARKETPLACE > > > > Stay on top of your group activity without leaving the page you're on - Get the Yahoo! Toolbar now. > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > Reply to sender | > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Don't you mean 60 percent cause she couldn't be on 60 liters ?Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: hyperaldosteronism Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:53:44 +0000To: <hyperaldosteronism >ReplyTo: hyperaldosteronism Subject: Re: Oximeter Discussion Nope . . .don't have numbers wrong. They had her on sixty liters of O2 at UC in Northern California. They had just gotten a special machine in from Europe - she was the first to use it (very big and very noisy). They used it in ICU to transition her off of a vent and used it with a special type of mask.She has never smoked a day in her life . . .has genetic form of pulmonary fibrosis (her mother, brother and cousin all had/have it). Vanderbilt is doing genetic research and my hubby has been studied as part of that research (has a 50% chance of having this gene activate).I guess we are chasing a huge rabbit away from the PA trail . . .is enlightening though > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Since the special machine was from Europe they may not use same flow rate as the US does. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 I am seeing that If one has untreated PA it can change PH and CO2 will try to bring PH back to normal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking > > Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more > > basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday > > my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, > > (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for > > several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg > > am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking > > spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on > > with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I > > have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine > > tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them > > untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled > > up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Does this mean that blood test for CO2 would be within normal range. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped > > taking > > > > Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more > > > > basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home > > yesterday > > > > my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of > > atenolol, > > > > (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy > > for > > > > several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now > > 225mg > > > > am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking > > > > spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats > > going on > > > > with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I > > > > have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine > > > > tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them > > > > untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the > > doubled > > > > up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 98% would be a real good reading according to my doctor. She actually told me that very few people hit 100%. And my guess is that your 86% reading is exactly why they don't provide us with oximeters. It fluctuates quite a bit and depends a lot on what you are doing. She was more concerned about how quickly it rebounded. - 65 yo morb. ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank & testicle pain. I have decided against an adrenalectomy at this time since Meds. are working so well. Current BP(last week ave): 122/73 Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2. and PTSD. Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 If K is normal the Hco3 should be OK . Assuming no hyperventilation before draw. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension Does this mean that blood test for CO2 would be within normal range. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped > > taking > > > > Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more > > > > basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home > > yesterday > > > > my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of > > atenolol, > > > > (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy > > for > > > > several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now > > 225mg > > > > am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking > > > > spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats > > going on > > > > with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I > > > > have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine > > > > tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them > > > > untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the > > doubled > > > > up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 And don't Conn's patients tend toward a metabolic alkalosis, which slows the respiratory drive to compensate? - I know at the height of it all for me I would wake up constantly feeling like I wasn't breathing. But that's gone now I am beginning to think my shortness of breath or Hyperventilation is due to my need to correct my CO2. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 How about hyperventilation during draw? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped > > > > taking > > > > > > Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more > > > > > > basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home > > > > yesterday > > > > > > my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of > > > > atenolol, > > > > > > (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy > > > > for > > > > > > several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now > > > > 225mg > > > > > > am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking > > > > > > spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats > > > > going on > > > > > > with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I > > > > > > have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine > > > > > > tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them > > > > > > untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the > > > > doubled > > > > > > up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 5, 2011 Report Share Posted October 5, 2011 Need at least1 min ofHyperventilation. Blows off CO2 and bicarb goes up as does pH as I recall. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension How about hyperventilation during draw? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Two part video on alkalosis. http://www.youtube.com/user/hennagerdj#p/u/19/eK2dBdBRvCU http://www.youtube.com/user/hennagerdj#p/u/18/K0UMXxjoAaw > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 6, 2011 Report Share Posted October 6, 2011 Some Sx of alkalosis •Confusion (can progress to stupor or coma) •Hand tremor •Lightheadedness •Muscle twitching •Nausea, vomiting •Numbness or tingling in the face or extremities •Prolonged muscle spasms (tetany) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 7, 2011 Report Share Posted October 7, 2011 Many on here report shortness of breath and think this is caused by low Oxygen. If you are like me they have checked this with an Oximeter and it shows normal O2. More then likely your O is normal but you have a carbon dioxide problem due to PA changing your PH. Still trying to learn what happens to cause this. It is possible that that your O2 is low but the Oximeter is giving a false reading. Oximeters work by sending a light source your finger and based on how much light is sent back to processor you will get a read out based on this. The less light that passed through the higher the reading will be. Some things that can block light skin color and fingnail polish. Some information from wikipedia.org Oximetry is not a complete measure of respiratory sufficiency. A patient suffering from hypoventilation (poor gas exchange in the lungs) given 100% oxygen can have excellent blood oxygen levels while still suffering from respiratory acidosis due to excessive carbon dioxide. It is also not a complete measure of circulatory sufficiency. If there is insufficient bloodflow or insufficient hemoglobin in the blood (anemia), tissues can suffer hypoxia despite high oxygen saturation in the blood that does arrive. A higher level of methemoglobin will tend to cause a pulse oximeter to read closer to 85% regardless of the true level of oxygen saturation. It also should be noted that the inability of two-wavelength saturation level measurement devices to distinguish carboxyhemoglobin due to carbon monoxide poisoning from oxyhemoglobin must be taken into account when diagnosing a patient in emergency rescue, e.g., from a fire in an apartment. A pulse CO-oximeter measures absorption at additional wavelengths to distinguish CO from O2 and determines the blood oxygen saturation more reliably. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The other day I tapered down and stopped taking Atenolol was making me tired. Seems like Inspra is covering more basis for me that spiro ever did. Though when I came home yesterday my bp was 109/67 with a pluse of 96 so I took only 25mg of atenolol, (used to take 100mg a day) Wow! it was way to much. I was drupy for several hours. No more atenolol . I am adding more Inspra, Now 225mg am & pm. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am feeling way better than when I was taking spiro lots more energy and stronger muscles. So thats whats going on with me. I hope I did the right thing by increasing the Inspra I have been feeling rather wired lately. Monday I will get the urine tests and some 25mg atenolol just in case I can alway quarten them untill the inspra kicks in I still have 3 weeks to go on the doubled up dose till it kicks in all the way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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