Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Christy , My daughter loved m & m candy so we sat in the bathroom for one whole day , and gave her alot of water and juice , we played and ate and drank in the bathroom and yes ,it was funny! ,When she went to the potty I gave her the m & m candy. When I went to the bathroom I ate the candy ,The next day ,she went to potty and got her own candy. Routine is very important , she is 15 now and goes regular times such as ,when she wakes up and after every meal ,etc. I have learned over the years , routine is the key to helping . I have heard of some great web sites about potty training but I dont know which ones . Good luck , Sincerely, Donna ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ To Heidi--Only Child > > > > > >Dear Heidi, > >Your letter touched me deeply this morning. You and your husband are such > >beautiful people to have adopted your lovely daughter. I am very sorry > >you > >can not have any more children. The love and time you give to your > >precious > >daughter is a gift to her that can never be measured. We have three > >children > >and lost a little girl 7 yrs. ago at birth. My boys are 9 and 3(PDD) and > >my > >daughter 6-next month is autistic and has Landau-Kleffner also. I agonize > >all the time that I do not give her enough time or that I do not give my > >boys > >enough time. My youngest was 2 months old when was diagnosed. > >Does your daughter have any cousins she can play with regularly? That is > >not > >the case for us, so I know that can be difficult. Are there any children > >who > >could play with her regularly? It's not the same, I know--but I thought it > >might help. I do not know how old your daughter is, but are there any > >children fro school who could play with her? I hear my daughter so I will > >have to run. > >I hope none of my comments have offended you in any way. You sound like > >such > >a wonderful person and your daughter is so VERY LUCKY to have you for her > >MOM! Have a good day and I hope daughter is well soon. > > > > > >P.S. I introduced myself to this group 2 months ago and rcvd. a very warm > >welcome and never had a chance to write back until today. You and daughter > >forced me to write today. <br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of > >MSN Explorer at <a > >href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p> > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > >________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Christy , My daughter loved m & m candy so we sat in the bathroom for one whole day , and gave her alot of water and juice , we played and ate and drank in the bathroom and yes ,it was funny! ,When she went to the potty I gave her the m & m candy. When I went to the bathroom I ate the candy ,The next day ,she went to potty and got her own candy. Routine is very important , she is 15 now and goes regular times such as ,when she wakes up and after every meal ,etc. I have learned over the years , routine is the key to helping . I have heard of some great web sites about potty training but I dont know which ones . Good luck , Sincerely, Donna ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ To Heidi--Only Child > > > > > >Dear Heidi, > >Your letter touched me deeply this morning. You and your husband are such > >beautiful people to have adopted your lovely daughter. I am very sorry > >you > >can not have any more children. The love and time you give to your > >precious > >daughter is a gift to her that can never be measured. We have three > >children > >and lost a little girl 7 yrs. ago at birth. My boys are 9 and 3(PDD) and > >my > >daughter 6-next month is autistic and has Landau-Kleffner also. I agonize > >all the time that I do not give her enough time or that I do not give my > >boys > >enough time. My youngest was 2 months old when was diagnosed. > >Does your daughter have any cousins she can play with regularly? That is > >not > >the case for us, so I know that can be difficult. Are there any children > >who > >could play with her regularly? It's not the same, I know--but I thought it > >might help. I do not know how old your daughter is, but are there any > >children fro school who could play with her? I hear my daughter so I will > >have to run. > >I hope none of my comments have offended you in any way. You sound like > >such > >a wonderful person and your daughter is so VERY LUCKY to have you for her > >MOM! Have a good day and I hope daughter is well soon. > > > > > >P.S. I introduced myself to this group 2 months ago and rcvd. a very warm > >welcome and never had a chance to write back until today. You and daughter > >forced me to write today. <br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of > >MSN Explorer at <a > >href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p> > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > >________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2001 Report Share Posted January 21, 2001 Christy , My daughter loved m & m candy so we sat in the bathroom for one whole day , and gave her alot of water and juice , we played and ate and drank in the bathroom and yes ,it was funny! ,When she went to the potty I gave her the m & m candy. When I went to the bathroom I ate the candy ,The next day ,she went to potty and got her own candy. Routine is very important , she is 15 now and goes regular times such as ,when she wakes up and after every meal ,etc. I have learned over the years , routine is the key to helping . I have heard of some great web sites about potty training but I dont know which ones . Good luck , Sincerely, Donna ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ To Heidi--Only Child > > > > > >Dear Heidi, > >Your letter touched me deeply this morning. You and your husband are such > >beautiful people to have adopted your lovely daughter. I am very sorry > >you > >can not have any more children. The love and time you give to your > >precious > >daughter is a gift to her that can never be measured. We have three > >children > >and lost a little girl 7 yrs. ago at birth. My boys are 9 and 3(PDD) and > >my > >daughter 6-next month is autistic and has Landau-Kleffner also. I agonize > >all the time that I do not give her enough time or that I do not give my > >boys > >enough time. My youngest was 2 months old when was diagnosed. > >Does your daughter have any cousins she can play with regularly? That is > >not > >the case for us, so I know that can be difficult. Are there any children > >who > >could play with her regularly? It's not the same, I know--but I thought it > >might help. I do not know how old your daughter is, but are there any > >children fro school who could play with her? I hear my daughter so I will > >have to run. > >I hope none of my comments have offended you in any way. You sound like > >such > >a wonderful person and your daughter is so VERY LUCKY to have you for her > >MOM! Have a good day and I hope daughter is well soon. > > > > > >P.S. I introduced myself to this group 2 months ago and rcvd. a very warm > >welcome and never had a chance to write back until today. You and daughter > >forced me to write today. <br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of > >MSN Explorer at <a > >href= " http://explorer.msn.com " >http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p> > > > > > >[This message contained attachments] > > > > > > > >________________________________________________________________________ > >________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 I have a three year old son and we have not even tried potty training yet, so I'm sure more experienced parents might be most helpful. I did purchase and read a book called Toilet Training for Individuals with Autism and Related Disorders by Wheeler. It is published by Future Horizons, Inc. at www.FutureHorizons-autism.com. I think I purchased it either through Amazon or Different Roads to Learning. The book has many useful ideas and case studies. One important aspect is the use of schedules (if you are familiar with BoardMaker or PECS-type symbols). I think some of the case studies might pertain to toileting fears, also. I find with my son if he has a better understanding of what to expect (which is clearer for him through pictures)then he is more comfortable and compliant. Don't despair. Even the experts will tell you that children on the spectrum are the most difficult to potty train. My oldest son, who is ADHD, was almost 4 years old! That was before his diagnosis and believe me, I had plenty of people who thought I was not a good parent for not having him trained sooner. I now realize in retrospect that his sensory issues,etc. were big road blocks for us but I had no idea at the time. Good luck. Remember, those people who are criticizing you would not last five minutes in your shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 We potty trained my 4 year old this past summer using a program our ABA consultant gave us. He was also scared of the potty - so we started by rewarding him for just going near it - even for a couple of seconds. After a few days we would praise and reward him for sitting on it (clothed). Then after a few days sitting on it in underwear-then naked. Then we spend a long weekend giving him lots to drink and taking him to the bathroom every half hour. We got a couple of new toys that were to be used only on the potty. After a couple of accidents, we got lucky and on the second day he accidentally went in the potty. We made a huge production over it - you would have thought the king had come to town. We continued this over a couple of weeks, and he got the hang of it. Then we basically did the same program for going potty. The key for us was lots of praise, patience, and finding good reinforcers. (The first weekend we used donuts, because he loves them and never gets them. Then we tapered off to praise and favorite toys). Good luck! Anissa potty training i have a 5yr old son with autism haveing a hard time with potty training.he is scared of the potty and rest rooms we call them big boy pants he cryes when he puts them on he do's not wont to wear them. my son's teacher said maybe i should just put the pull ups in the trash and go cold turkey. but i rember 6 months ago when we started the 2nd time to try to potty train my son we all made a big issue about it that he was holding his urin and poopoo it was so bad we had to take him to the dr. i just have my hand tide i do not know how to go about all of this with out setting my son back or even worse. people tell me he should be trained by now i baby him he will not be able to go to first grade the list go's on and on. what am i doing wrong???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 hello i know the feeling ofpotty training also i have 11yr old that is potty trained by day and a soaking terror by night. i have to bath him every morning. i wash more clothes than a family of 5, but i wouldnt trade him for anything in the world i have convinced myself time and lots of prayers will help him thru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 In a message dated 2/16/2003 5:39:28 PM Central Standard Time, ices3957@... writes: > hello > i know the feeling ofpotty training also > i have 11yr old that is potty trained by day and a soaking terror by night. > i > have to bath him every morning. i wash more clothes than a family of 5, but > i > wouldnt trade him for anything in the world i have convinced myself time > and > lots of prayers will help him thru You bet it will! I went though this with Angel. She was 6 when she was potty trained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 I don't know if it will help, but here is a copy of Azrin's Postive Practice Potty Training Protocol. Good Luck!!!! Amy " Reply-To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy To: Texas-Autism-Advocacy Subject: potty training Date: Sun, 16 Feb 2003 07:23:31 -0000 i have a 5yr old son with autism haveing a hard time with potty training.he is scared of the potty and rest rooms we call them big boy pants he cryes when he puts them on he do's not wont to wear them. my son's teacher said maybe i should just put the pull ups in the trash and go cold turkey. but i rember 6 months ago when we started the 2nd time to try to potty train my son we all made a big issue about it that he was holding his urin and poopoo it was so bad we had to take him to the dr. i just have my hand tide i do not know how to go about all of this with out setting my son back or even worse. people tell me he should be trained by now i baby him he will not be able to go to first grade the list go's on and on. what am i doing wrong???? _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Have you tried zinc and/or magnesium supplements? What type of diet is he on? Could he be constipated? yeast? Bacteria? Could he be afraid of "losing part of himself" down the toilet ( many kids are afraid of this and the water draining in the tub) potty training I need help!We have been trying to potty train our 4 1/2 year old son for over a year and a half. We have gotten through many struggles but he is having such a hard time with knowing when his bladder is full and when his bowels are empty. it makes me aware that he does not know he is needing to go more when he is on the potty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 Have you tried zinc and/or magnesium supplements? What type of diet is he on? Could he be constipated? yeast? Bacteria? Could he be afraid of "losing part of himself" down the toilet ( many kids are afraid of this and the water draining in the tub) potty training I need help!We have been trying to potty train our 4 1/2 year old son for over a year and a half. We have gotten through many struggles but he is having such a hard time with knowing when his bladder is full and when his bowels are empty. it makes me aware that he does not know he is needing to go more when he is on the potty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Have you considered consulting a sensory integration (occupational) therapist? His issues could be largely sensory in base. If so, diagnosing his particular issue and treating it that way may make him more successful. Xander is what I would call mostly potty trained. However, during times of difficulty, functional speech and potty success are the first to go down the tubes. All Christmas break long he has been having accident after accident...but once he gets back into the school routine, he will be fine. I look at the potty accidents as a symptom he shows me that something isn't quite right with him. Hang in there. You guys will get this done. Xander is 6 and still having problems, so be encouraged... you are definitely not the only one out there! Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Have you considered consulting a sensory integration (occupational) therapist? His issues could be largely sensory in base. If so, diagnosing his particular issue and treating it that way may make him more successful. Xander is what I would call mostly potty trained. However, during times of difficulty, functional speech and potty success are the first to go down the tubes. All Christmas break long he has been having accident after accident...but once he gets back into the school routine, he will be fine. I look at the potty accidents as a symptom he shows me that something isn't quite right with him. Hang in there. You guys will get this done. Xander is 6 and still having problems, so be encouraged... you are definitely not the only one out there! Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Have you considered consulting a sensory integration (occupational) therapist? His issues could be largely sensory in base. If so, diagnosing his particular issue and treating it that way may make him more successful. Xander is what I would call mostly potty trained. However, during times of difficulty, functional speech and potty success are the first to go down the tubes. All Christmas break long he has been having accident after accident...but once he gets back into the school routine, he will be fine. I look at the potty accidents as a symptom he shows me that something isn't quite right with him. Hang in there. You guys will get this done. Xander is 6 and still having problems, so be encouraged... you are definitely not the only one out there! Adrienne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Potty training was a big issue for us. We tried the old "Potty Party" no success. I really feel your child needs to have bladder control and be ready. Obviously our son was not ready and that was ok. One day we were coming back from the pool and at the time was wearing those swim pull ups. What we noticed is that as soon as we took them off and put his pull up on he would go to the bathroom in the pull up.. We figured out that was holding it and not going to the bathroom while the swim pull ups were on. So what we did was after going to the pool we started putting in "Big Boy" underwear. Of course this was a big change for put we did a lot of praising and telling him what a big boy he was. Well, could only hold it for so long and does not like to have accidents and he walked over and went to the bathroom. In regard to Bowel movements we still needed to give a lot of praise and encouragement and we did have a big party when he finally did have his 1st bowel movement in the potty. My best advise keep talking about it, give a lot a praise and don't give up.. Also we purchased a video I think its called the potty video and would watch it . It is about a little boy who is having a Birthday party and learning how to go to the bathroom. It had songs and loves music. I really like the idea about the DVD player- I say whatever works do it. Thanks, Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Potty training was a big issue for us. We tried the old "Potty Party" no success. I really feel your child needs to have bladder control and be ready. Obviously our son was not ready and that was ok. One day we were coming back from the pool and at the time was wearing those swim pull ups. What we noticed is that as soon as we took them off and put his pull up on he would go to the bathroom in the pull up.. We figured out that was holding it and not going to the bathroom while the swim pull ups were on. So what we did was after going to the pool we started putting in "Big Boy" underwear. Of course this was a big change for put we did a lot of praising and telling him what a big boy he was. Well, could only hold it for so long and does not like to have accidents and he walked over and went to the bathroom. In regard to Bowel movements we still needed to give a lot of praise and encouragement and we did have a big party when he finally did have his 1st bowel movement in the potty. My best advise keep talking about it, give a lot a praise and don't give up.. Also we purchased a video I think its called the potty video and would watch it . It is about a little boy who is having a Birthday party and learning how to go to the bathroom. It had songs and loves music. I really like the idea about the DVD player- I say whatever works do it. Thanks, Heidi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 My boys learned to do both sitting first. They learned to stand to pee outside since we live in the country. May be too late for you if he's already used to standing to pee. My typical child had trouble with pooping. He would also beg to have a pullup or diaper put on well after he was trained with peeing. Then one day we were at a friends house and he had to go to the bathroom and he pooped in the potty without asking for a diaper. We had been using a potty seat and turns out he didn't like it and did fine without one. My child with AS was slow to train but was reliable by age four. He resisted going at first but we gave him many rewards and walked him through his tantrums and he slowly came around. We had gummy dinos in the bathroom for the longest time! > > Reply-To: autism-georgia > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:55:17 -0800 (PST) > To: autism-georgia > Subject: Re: potty training > > On this thread I have a silly question. My son has > constipation issues and will only go in a pullup (asks > for it and tells me " all done " , well signs all done > and approximates). He goes #1 when needed in the > potty. How do we go about having him sit or even > 'think' about the potty for pooping? What a hard > concept for a child with autism- #1 stand and #2 sit? > --- J2thfamily@... wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 My boys learned to do both sitting first. They learned to stand to pee outside since we live in the country. May be too late for you if he's already used to standing to pee. My typical child had trouble with pooping. He would also beg to have a pullup or diaper put on well after he was trained with peeing. Then one day we were at a friends house and he had to go to the bathroom and he pooped in the potty without asking for a diaper. We had been using a potty seat and turns out he didn't like it and did fine without one. My child with AS was slow to train but was reliable by age four. He resisted going at first but we gave him many rewards and walked him through his tantrums and he slowly came around. We had gummy dinos in the bathroom for the longest time! > > Reply-To: autism-georgia > Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2004 10:55:17 -0800 (PST) > To: autism-georgia > Subject: Re: potty training > > On this thread I have a silly question. My son has > constipation issues and will only go in a pullup (asks > for it and tells me " all done " , well signs all done > and approximates). He goes #1 when needed in the > potty. How do we go about having him sit or even > 'think' about the potty for pooping? What a hard > concept for a child with autism- #1 stand and #2 sit? > --- J2thfamily@... wrote: > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 You have gotten a lot of advice and it has been many years for me as my daughter is now 12 1/2. However, as much as I fretted over it,- that is the books, videos, rewards, etc........what I found out is that it seemed to be more of a developmental and sensory issue with her. We were fortunate in that she would hold it for hours so when she went to a private /2 day preschool (yes I had to lie and say she was potty trained) but she never had an accident because she would not go anywhere else except home. I did like Heidi did. We put her in real underwear at 3, not because it was brilliance on our part, but because she hated the feel of diapers and pull ups. For us, one day, it just happened. But what made me answer your post was I understand the meltdowns you speak of. I could not insist my daughter go- there would be the worst thing I could do. What worked with her was reverse psychology and taking the focus off the task of pottying and putting the focus on something else, which is what many of you suggested. So the game was, who got to go first- me or her. Who made it to the bathroom first- I would always lose- I would have a meltdown of my own- which was of course funny and the total relaxation gave way to success in the bathroom. I would often say hurry, I have to go, and believe me she wasn't about to hurry- This gave her total permission to take as long as she wanted. I would finally give up and go to the other bathroom. At 8 the issue became that she only wanted to go at home. She would hold it all day at school and race from the bus inside the house- many time not making it to the bathroom. Miraculously, she never had an accident at school. So I would do all kinds of bribes for getting her to go in different places. We couldn't stop and eat at Mcs' if she didn't use their bathroom, etc.,. I tried not to back myself in a corner and usually had a plan b. I do understand the meltdowns and my answer was when possible to put the focus on something other than the deed. Such as let's hurry and go to the bathroom so we can go get ice cream. Like everyone else you can add my to the crazylist too, but you do what you gotta do. Sharon > I need help! > We have been trying to potty train our 4 1/2 year old son for over a > year and a half. We have gotten through many struggles but he is > having such a hard time with knowing when his bladder is full and > when his bowels are empty. > > He is in underware full time through the day! This is a huge > accomplishment for us. We have been taking trips to the potty every > 3 1/2 hours, which seems to work well for his system. The problem I > am having is he fights so hard to not go when it is time and if I > dare ask if he has to go the answer is always no. We have tried > timers, it is in his picture schedule to go...but when I say its time > to go even with warning time, it is all out meltdown. Hitting the > walls hitting me sinking in to the potty and i walk away once he is > on the toilet and he goes. I just dont know how to get him to go > without the fight. > > I am so frustrated with bowel movements because he will go and then 5 > minutes later go in his underware. This is not all the time though, > thank God. However, it makes me aware that he does not know he is > needing to go more when he is on the potty. > > I dont know what else to do but ask other moms for help. I have > talked to his therapists and behavioral specialist, and the advice > has not seemed to work. > > We have struggled so long and I am so tired and frustrated...if > anyone can offer me some advice or encouragement PLEASE give it!!! > I feel so incapable of getting him to be fully potty trained, I truly > am at witts end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 You have gotten a lot of advice and it has been many years for me as my daughter is now 12 1/2. However, as much as I fretted over it,- that is the books, videos, rewards, etc........what I found out is that it seemed to be more of a developmental and sensory issue with her. We were fortunate in that she would hold it for hours so when she went to a private /2 day preschool (yes I had to lie and say she was potty trained) but she never had an accident because she would not go anywhere else except home. I did like Heidi did. We put her in real underwear at 3, not because it was brilliance on our part, but because she hated the feel of diapers and pull ups. For us, one day, it just happened. But what made me answer your post was I understand the meltdowns you speak of. I could not insist my daughter go- there would be the worst thing I could do. What worked with her was reverse psychology and taking the focus off the task of pottying and putting the focus on something else, which is what many of you suggested. So the game was, who got to go first- me or her. Who made it to the bathroom first- I would always lose- I would have a meltdown of my own- which was of course funny and the total relaxation gave way to success in the bathroom. I would often say hurry, I have to go, and believe me she wasn't about to hurry- This gave her total permission to take as long as she wanted. I would finally give up and go to the other bathroom. At 8 the issue became that she only wanted to go at home. She would hold it all day at school and race from the bus inside the house- many time not making it to the bathroom. Miraculously, she never had an accident at school. So I would do all kinds of bribes for getting her to go in different places. We couldn't stop and eat at Mcs' if she didn't use their bathroom, etc.,. I tried not to back myself in a corner and usually had a plan b. I do understand the meltdowns and my answer was when possible to put the focus on something other than the deed. Such as let's hurry and go to the bathroom so we can go get ice cream. Like everyone else you can add my to the crazylist too, but you do what you gotta do. Sharon > I need help! > We have been trying to potty train our 4 1/2 year old son for over a > year and a half. We have gotten through many struggles but he is > having such a hard time with knowing when his bladder is full and > when his bowels are empty. > > He is in underware full time through the day! This is a huge > accomplishment for us. We have been taking trips to the potty every > 3 1/2 hours, which seems to work well for his system. The problem I > am having is he fights so hard to not go when it is time and if I > dare ask if he has to go the answer is always no. We have tried > timers, it is in his picture schedule to go...but when I say its time > to go even with warning time, it is all out meltdown. Hitting the > walls hitting me sinking in to the potty and i walk away once he is > on the toilet and he goes. I just dont know how to get him to go > without the fight. > > I am so frustrated with bowel movements because he will go and then 5 > minutes later go in his underware. This is not all the time though, > thank God. However, it makes me aware that he does not know he is > needing to go more when he is on the potty. > > I dont know what else to do but ask other moms for help. I have > talked to his therapists and behavioral specialist, and the advice > has not seemed to work. > > We have struggled so long and I am so tired and frustrated...if > anyone can offer me some advice or encouragement PLEASE give it!!! > I feel so incapable of getting him to be fully potty trained, I truly > am at witts end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 You have gotten a lot of advice and it has been many years for me as my daughter is now 12 1/2. However, as much as I fretted over it,- that is the books, videos, rewards, etc........what I found out is that it seemed to be more of a developmental and sensory issue with her. We were fortunate in that she would hold it for hours so when she went to a private /2 day preschool (yes I had to lie and say she was potty trained) but she never had an accident because she would not go anywhere else except home. I did like Heidi did. We put her in real underwear at 3, not because it was brilliance on our part, but because she hated the feel of diapers and pull ups. For us, one day, it just happened. But what made me answer your post was I understand the meltdowns you speak of. I could not insist my daughter go- there would be the worst thing I could do. What worked with her was reverse psychology and taking the focus off the task of pottying and putting the focus on something else, which is what many of you suggested. So the game was, who got to go first- me or her. Who made it to the bathroom first- I would always lose- I would have a meltdown of my own- which was of course funny and the total relaxation gave way to success in the bathroom. I would often say hurry, I have to go, and believe me she wasn't about to hurry- This gave her total permission to take as long as she wanted. I would finally give up and go to the other bathroom. At 8 the issue became that she only wanted to go at home. She would hold it all day at school and race from the bus inside the house- many time not making it to the bathroom. Miraculously, she never had an accident at school. So I would do all kinds of bribes for getting her to go in different places. We couldn't stop and eat at Mcs' if she didn't use their bathroom, etc.,. I tried not to back myself in a corner and usually had a plan b. I do understand the meltdowns and my answer was when possible to put the focus on something other than the deed. Such as let's hurry and go to the bathroom so we can go get ice cream. Like everyone else you can add my to the crazylist too, but you do what you gotta do. Sharon > I need help! > We have been trying to potty train our 4 1/2 year old son for over a > year and a half. We have gotten through many struggles but he is > having such a hard time with knowing when his bladder is full and > when his bowels are empty. > > He is in underware full time through the day! This is a huge > accomplishment for us. We have been taking trips to the potty every > 3 1/2 hours, which seems to work well for his system. The problem I > am having is he fights so hard to not go when it is time and if I > dare ask if he has to go the answer is always no. We have tried > timers, it is in his picture schedule to go...but when I say its time > to go even with warning time, it is all out meltdown. Hitting the > walls hitting me sinking in to the potty and i walk away once he is > on the toilet and he goes. I just dont know how to get him to go > without the fight. > > I am so frustrated with bowel movements because he will go and then 5 > minutes later go in his underware. This is not all the time though, > thank God. However, it makes me aware that he does not know he is > needing to go more when he is on the potty. > > I dont know what else to do but ask other moms for help. I have > talked to his therapists and behavioral specialist, and the advice > has not seemed to work. > > We have struggled so long and I am so tired and frustrated...if > anyone can offer me some advice or encouragement PLEASE give it!!! > I feel so incapable of getting him to be fully potty trained, I truly > am at witts end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 something that helped us was putting underwear under his diaper so he felt it for a couple of days and Colter did not like it... We followed the not intense Walden way which trip training every twenty minutes. Every time he was successful reinforcer reinforcer reinforcer... He was eager to do it though- I would never force it - it will be miserable... Just my thoughts From: jkbradl@... Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:03 AMTo: autism-georgia Subject: potty training We need potty training advice!!! What methods really work? I've read about the Lovaas method and we have been trying sitting Owen on the potty every hour in the pre-training phase. He has never went in the toilet and gets resistant to sitting on there. Do we need to spend an entire day in the bathroom? What if he gets upset and doesn't want to stay in there? I also read Potty Training in One Day or something like that, but Owen doesn't give a hoot about dolls. I've read the TEACCH method about charting how many times a day he's going, taking him to the potty twice as often as that, basically trip training I guess. Should we get a chair or focus on the real thing? Owen is 3 1/2 years old and is showing signs of readiness. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ---Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.708 / Virus Database: 464 - Release Date: 6/18/2004 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 I think I'm getting the hint that Owen's training will take our constant attention and devotion to the cause ) He's so on-the-go all the time, that will be a full-time job in itself, but we will try! Thanks for all the ideas. Darla, wish we could use the watermelon, what a wonderful reinforcer that would be 'cause Owen loves it. But, of all things, he's allergic to it. About 30 minutes after eating it, he gets hives and itches all over Will have to think of something else. I wish Cheetos were on the GFCF diet thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 I think I'm getting the hint that Owen's training will take our constant attention and devotion to the cause ) He's so on-the-go all the time, that will be a full-time job in itself, but we will try! Thanks for all the ideas. Darla, wish we could use the watermelon, what a wonderful reinforcer that would be 'cause Owen loves it. But, of all things, he's allergic to it. About 30 minutes after eating it, he gets hives and itches all over Will have to think of something else. I wish Cheetos were on the GFCF diet thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 I don't know what kind of 'special' snacks were on your kiddo's diet BUT I used small packets of the mini M & M's for my daughter. I gave her a few when she tickled and a whole packet when the big job came. Good Luck! Rosiejkbradl@... wrote: I think I'm getting the hint that Owen's training will take our constant attention and devotion to the cause ) He's so on-the-go all the time, that will be a full-time job in itself, but we will try! Thanks for all the ideas. Darla, wish we could use the watermelon, what a wonderful reinforcer that would be 'cause Owen loves it. But, of all things, he's allergic to it. About 30 minutes after eating it, he gets hives and itches all over Will have to think of something else. I wish Cheetos were on the GFCF diet thanks, __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 I don't know what kind of 'special' snacks were on your kiddo's diet BUT I used small packets of the mini M & M's for my daughter. I gave her a few when she tickled and a whole packet when the big job came. Good Luck! Rosiejkbradl@... wrote: I think I'm getting the hint that Owen's training will take our constant attention and devotion to the cause ) He's so on-the-go all the time, that will be a full-time job in itself, but we will try! Thanks for all the ideas. Darla, wish we could use the watermelon, what a wonderful reinforcer that would be 'cause Owen loves it. But, of all things, he's allergic to it. About 30 minutes after eating it, he gets hives and itches all over Will have to think of something else. I wish Cheetos were on the GFCF diet thanks, __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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