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Yah, the more you look into something the more scary it seems.  That is why I

have not done too much research and just only now found this group.  You know

your kids and what is best for them.  Every kids is different as you know.  Each

day is a new day! right :).

Subject: Re: " voices " ?

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Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 1:33 PM

Thanks- when my older daughter was at UCLA they said she was

shizotypal, due to things like the voices and the oddity of her

superstitions. I was more in favor of calling it all part of the OCD.

Maybe it does not matter so much what you call it, just how you work

with it, but I think the schizotypal label could be more stigmatizing

and could be premature in a young child (my son is 12) hence my

concern about how a therapist might view voices (and whether ERP

could more stressful for a kid with this symptom).

nancy grace

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> Subject: " voices " ?

> To: @ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Wednesday, January 7, 2009, 1:25 PM

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> My son told me (reluctantly and with several hints or questions for

> several days before revealing anything) that he hears a scary mean

> voice being " mean " to him that has happened 2-3 times recently. I

> know " voices " has come up here before-does anyone consider it a

part

> of OCD?

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> He seemed to want reassurance that it was not truly external. I

told

> him it is his brain playing a trick on him and that doctors can

even

> induce hallucinations (whether visual or auitory) by probing

certain

> parts of the brain-this was to let him know that it comes from

inside

> not outside, and is a hallucination- not real.

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> My 16 yr old daughter heard " mean " voices too, starting about age

13,

> and lasting through a crisis with her OCD (she feared eating and

> finally had to be hospitalized) but does not have that problem

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> I wonder could it be something to do with puberty and greater

stress

> due to hormaonal changes, or something to do with OCD getting worse-

> though he seems to be in status-quo, which is not necessarily good

> since he has alot of avoidances. But I have not seen the OCD

getting

> worse, he has actually seemed more relaxed and interactive (within

> the family) of late (though this does not represent any improvement

> to his contmination type OCD).

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> I have this sense that low stress and low stimulus reduces the

> likliehood of it (voices) happening-but then that may not be the

way

> to help the OCD- which is supposed to be challenged by exposures

etc.

> Since I was considering resuming his therapy and attempts at ERP

this

> other symptom concerns me. I also have concerns about bringing it

up

> at the the outset if we start with a new therapist-depends upon how

> she would view it I guess.

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My son has reported seeing some very horrific things also. I don't know if this

is from his OCD thoughts, that he thinks are real or from the psychosis, or

possibly, like I had mentioned earlier, his anxiety.He has been on Abilify for

several months now too, and it seems to have gone away.

I hear people calling me often, but usually people with severe psychosis, hear

several conversations going on in their heads at once, or report hearing a voice

telling them to do awful things.

Hugs

Judy

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Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 3:46:58 PM

Subject: Re: " voices " ?

My son also heard voices at one stage (when things were very bad for

him) and he also " saw " bad things happening -- he thought he saw his

father and me letting snakes out of cupboards to hurt him. At one

stage, he also wasn't sure I was his mother but perhaps someone else

who wanted to poison him. These symptoms have passed now but were

very disturbing for him (and us). We were never quite sure if they

seemed fully real to him, or if part of him knew they were just in

his head. Abilify was a good medication for him perhaps because of

the anti-psychotic properties it has.

Ali

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For my kids, it depends on the med. My daughter hallucinated FROM an

anti-psychotic.

Myself and my kids have extremely gory nightmares, regardless of the meds they

are on, but some meds, like the anti-anxiety I take is known to cause

nightmares.

Hugs

Judy

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Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 11:05:24 PM

Subject: Re: " voices " ?

Do medicines sometimes make this worse instead of better? I ask

because my son's nightmares seem to get more vivid from the medication

and it's a bit hard for him to tell if they are real or not.

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> My son has reported seeing some very horrific things also. I don't

know if this is from his OCD thoughts, that he thinks are real or from

the psychosis, or possibly, like I had mentioned earlier, his

anxiety.He has been on Abilify for several months now too, and it

seems to have gone away.

> I hear people calling me often, but usually people with severe

psychosis, hear several conversations going on in their heads at once,

or report hearing a voice telling them to do awful things.

> Hugs

> Judy

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> To: @ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Wednesday, January 7, 2009 3:46:58 PM

> Subject: Re: " voices " ?

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> My son also heard voices at one stage (when things were very bad for

> him) and he also " saw " bad things happening -- he thought he saw his

> father and me letting snakes out of cupboards to hurt him. At one

> stage, he also wasn't sure I was his mother but perhaps someone else

> who wanted to poison him. These symptoms have passed now but were

> very disturbing for him (and us). We were never quite sure if they

> seemed fully real to him, or if part of him knew they were just in

> his head. Abilify was a good medication for him perhaps because of

> the anti-psychotic properties it has.

> Ali

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If I remember correctly at least one of the OCD meds causes such dreams.

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> My son also heard voices at one stage (when things were very bad for

> him) and he also " saw " bad things happening -- he

thought he saw his

> father and me letting snakes out of cupboards to hurt him. At one

> stage, he also wasn't sure I was his mother but perhaps someone else

> who wanted to poison him. These symptoms have passed now but were

> very disturbing for him (and us). We were never quite sure if they

> seemed fully real to him, or if part of him knew they were just in

> his head. Abilify was a good medication for him perhaps because of

> the anti-psychotic properties it has.

> Ali

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