Re: This needs to be cleared up

[Guest guest]

here here,...................plz lets stop this, we need eachother !

I'm very sorry................I so didn't mean to start any bs here. Hey, does

hep C make people defensive?

Jackie on wrote:

Ok, to all,,

nne and I have been discussing the different

naturopathic tx for hep c vs the allopathic ones.

Ric ,, you and I were discussing something entirely

different which you emailed to me privately swearing

at me I might add. I answered you, you then sent me an

email demanding that I stop now. I guess its ok for

you to privately email to me and swear at me but its

NOT ok for me to defend myself from your accusations.

that is NOT fair!!! not in any way fair!!!!

You also emailed to me and to marianne insisting that

our conversation stop now too.

This is a hepper bb to help each other,, you and I

were not talking the same thing as marianne and I and

I certainly do not think you have the right to tell

her to stop her conversation about tx.

Whats with that? I guess marianne and I could take it

to another bb if you want us to....

=====

Jackie

It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the

support you need with us.

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[Guest guest]

It does cross the blood brain barrier, so who knows, I

know some ppl get really cranky on tx...

--- nne wrote:

> here here,...................plz lets stop this, we

> need eachother ! I'm very

> sorry................I so didn't mean to start any

> bs here. Hey, does hep C make people defensive?

>

> Jackie on wrote:

> Ok, to all,,

> nne and I have been discussing the different

> naturopathic tx for hep c vs the allopathic ones.

> Ric ,, you and I were discussing something entirely

> different which you emailed to me privately swearing

> at me I might add. I answered you, you then sent me

> an

> email demanding that I stop now. I guess its ok for

> you to privately email to me and swear at me but its

> NOT ok for me to defend myself from your

> accusations.

> that is NOT fair!!! not in any way fair!!!!

> You also emailed to me and to marianne insisting

> that

> our conversation stop now too.

> This is a hepper bb to help each other,, you and I

> were not talking the same thing as marianne and I

> and

> I certainly do not think you have the right to tell

> her to stop her conversation about tx.

> Whats with that? I guess marianne and I could take

> it

> to another bb if you want us to....

>

> =====

> Jackie

>

>

> It's a pleasure having you join in our

> conversations. We hope you have found the support

> you need with us.

>

> If you are using email for your posts, for easy

> access to our group, just click the link--

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

>

> Happy Posting

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

OK girls I hope your all better now. I made no demands of either of you. I said

please and now was not a demand but a question.

(It does cross the blood brain barrier,)

Jax, yours and mine was a different subject and I thought we finished it. I

guess not.

amd nne, the above copy is what I meant in my letter to you. what I ask,

again, is that you stop is the personal bashing. AND put downs and discounting

of peoples opinion and experiences. In short talk about your own, give opinions

if you must but please stop the PERSONAL attacks.....

Smiling is the latest thing in style, so cheer up and wear a big, broad smile.

If you want to be happy, listen closely to me. If you want to be happy, just

follow this recipe: Take a cup and a half of sunbeams.

Add a couple of drops of love. Take a spoonful of pleasant weather.

Stir the mixture all up together, and make yourself a Happiness Pie.

Written by /Perkins. Recorded by Rodger Ruskin Spear.

[Guest guest]

read back rick.................I ONLY GAVE my opinion, It was me that was

attacked, and am not interested in taking this any further.............I just

said what I felt and was told to LEARN ,read and be enlightened! I promise to

keep a

weekend

Ric wrote:

OK girls I hope your all better now. I made no demands of either of you. I said

please and now was not a demand but a question.

(It does cross the blood brain barrier,)

Jax, yours and mine was a different subject and I thought we finished it. I

guess not.

amd nne, the above copy is what I meant in my letter to you. what I ask,

again, is that you stop is the personal bashing. AND put downs and discounting

of peoples opinion and experiences. In short talk about your own, give opinions

if you must but please stop the PERSONAL attacks.....

Smiling is the latest thing in style, so cheer up and wear a big, broad smile.

If you want to be happy, listen closely to me. If you want to be happy, just

follow this recipe: Take a cup and a half of sunbeams.

Add a couple of drops of love. Take a spoonful of pleasant weather.

Stir the mixture all up together, and make yourself a Happiness Pie.

Written by /Perkins. Recorded by Rodger Ruskin Spear.

[Guest guest]

Hey fellow heppers..I have so missed out on most of this, but it seems that

person " a " is telling person " b " that there is an alternative natural tx

that works??? I dont know if this is right, but from what I have read, I agree

that if there was in fact, some cure out there, besides the treacherous (sp?)

tx that we hav to go thru now, we would all be online, inline, or wherever we

would have to go to order it...

I remember when Naomi Judd said she rolled in the dirt in Kentucky or

wherever and got cured..well, dont think anyone made a journey there...

just my idle thoughts this morning..be well..

Judi

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/29/2005 11:25:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,

evensweeter2001@... writes:

Overall, her whole " publicity stunt " using the

> Hepatitis C just annoyed the crud out of me... but

> that's just my opinion.

>

> M

I agree, totally...I was in a chat/support group then, and she was

at a book signing (cookbook, i think) in a town where one of the guys on the

list

lived, and he went to meet her, armed with emails from all of us, and he was

wheel

chair bound from the hep, and with all her " support " , and empathy for fellow

heppers, she wouldn't take the emails, nor speak to him.

sooooooooo.....I know in a kinda personal way that she sucks..lol

be well all, Judi in Tx...

[Guest guest]

I remember when Naomi Judd said she rolled in the dirt in Kentucky or wherever

and got cured..well, dont think anyone made a journey there...just my idle

thoughts this morning..be well..

Judi

~~~~~~~~~~~~

Not only did I not go making any journey... I was downright pissed off when she

showed up all over the media, claiming her miracle cures and all that crap. I

felt it was so cruel to those with it to give such false hope. Especially at

that time, it was well know that it was impossible to be *cured* and that the

most likely options were either she had a misdiagnosis in the first place or it

had gone into it's inactive, remission-like state where sometimes the viral load

levels are so low, they can't be detected so it looks like it's gone, when it's

really just dormant.

Overall, her whole " publicity stunt " using the Hepatitis C just annoyed the crud

out of me... but that's just my opinion.

M

[Guest guest]

I agree, some people are still in denial stages and

what ever they think works for them and gets them thru

the next day. For me. I want the " cure " enjoy this

freezing weekend, nne

--- " Pegasus.Realm " wrote:

>

> I remember when Naomi Judd said she rolled in the

> dirt in Kentucky or wherever and got cured..well,

> dont think anyone made a journey there...just my

> idle thoughts this morning..be well..

> Judi

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~

>

> Not only did I not go making any journey... I was

> downright pissed off when she showed up all over the

> media, claiming her miracle cures and all that crap.

> I felt it was so cruel to those with it to give such

> false hope. Especially at that time, it was well

> know that it was impossible to be *cured* and that

> the most likely options were either she had a

> misdiagnosis in the first place or it had gone into

> it's inactive, remission-like state where sometimes

> the viral load levels are so low, they can't be

> detected so it looks like it's gone, when it's

> really just dormant.

>

> Overall, her whole " publicity stunt " using the

> Hepatitis C just annoyed the crud out of me... but

> that's just my opinion.

>

> M

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

=====

Let's enjoy everyday !

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Ugh yeah... snow on the ground for the first time this winter. Well we had

*snow* twice but just flurries that didn't stick and burned off within a few

hours. It's cold, wet and miserable... which means I am cold and miserable...

LOL Especially since our heater decided it doesn't want to work right and we're

out of firewood. The electric blanket just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.

[Guest guest]

hmmmm, we had 17 inches last week, it still didnt clear completly ! Today is is

7 degrees ..............BRRRR! and, I need to go out in it right now, enjoy !

nne

" Pegasus.Realm " wrote:Ugh yeah... snow on the ground for

the first time this winter. Well we had *snow* twice but just flurries that

didn't stick and burned off within a few hours. It's cold, wet and miserable...

which means I am cold and miserable... LOL Especially since our heater decided

it doesn't want to work right and we're out of firewood. The electric blanket

just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.

[Guest guest]

>I agree, totally...I was in a chat/support group then, and she was at a book

signing (cookbook, i think) in a town where one of the guys on the list lived,

and he went to meet her, armed with emails from all of us, and he was

wheelchair bound from the hep, and with all her " support " , and empathy for

fellow heppers, she wouldn't take the emails, nor speak to him.

sooooooooo.....I know in a kinda personal way that she sucks..lol be well all,

Judi in Tx...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Doesn't surprise me at all, she never struck me as being very *real* behind the

image. I've usually got a pretty good sense about things like that too because

years ago, before I got so sick, my husband and I used to work for science

fiction conventions as security and assistants to the guest stars. That meant

everything from sitti\g beside them while they sign autographs to keeping them

from being harrassed to fetching their bottled water on demand. LOL

We worked with a lot of actors, writers etc... everything from ones who are

extremely famous household names to people that you wouldn't have a clue who

they are unless we listed off who they played in what show.... but there was one

amazing thing.

The differences in their personalities and attitudes towards " regular " people is

all over the scale, and not always in direct proportion to their level of fame

either... some *big names* were just as nice and average a person as you would

ever want to meet, and some *nobodies* could be egotistical asses. LOL And of

course it also worked opposite as well... I think it really just has to do with

what type of person that person REALLY is.

[Guest guest]

Sorry folks but I am Jewish and we read from right to left (reading

posts in date decending order). But to the point about Naomi Judd. I

am very annoyed at the tact she took when she supposedly had HCV.

Her supposed cure was well timed with being out of the singing game

due to it. Her daughter getting bad press at the time and her

supposed need to use HCV as a springboard for her own satisfaction.

I won't intimate the possibility of a passion to regain both

popularity (for both her and her daughter) but the old greed factor.

Just my opinion.

Fred

[Guest guest]

OH how I envy the cold weather .....................wish Las Vegas had more of

it

Re: This needs to be cleared up

hmmmm, we had 17 inches last week, it still didnt clear completly ! Today is

is 7 degrees ..............BRRRR! and, I need to go out in it right now, enjoy

! nne

" Pegasus.Realm " wrote:Ugh yeah... snow on the ground

for the first time this winter. Well we had *snow* twice but just flurries that

didn't stick and burned off within a few hours. It's cold, wet and miserable...

which means I am cold and miserable... LOL Especially since our heater decided

it doesn't want to work right and we're out of firewood. The electric blanket

just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.

[Guest guest]

who are we talking about here?

In a message dated 1/29/2005 1:22:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

Txshihtzumom@... writes:

In a message dated 1/29/2005 11:25:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,

evensweeter2001@... writes:

Overall, her whole " publicity stunt " using the

> Hepatitis C just annoyed the crud out of me... but

> that's just my opinion.

>

> M

I agree, totally...I was in a chat/support group then, and she was

at a book signing (cookbook, i think) in a town where one of the guys on

the

list

lived, and he went to meet her, armed with emails from all of us, and he

was

wheel

chair bound from the hep, and with all her " support " , and empathy for

fellow

heppers, she wouldn't take the emails, nor speak to him.

sooooooooo.....I know in a kinda personal way that she sucks..lol

be well all, Judi in Tx...

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Guest guest]

Fred

Im in agreement with you on that, I dont think that

naomi judd would be nor is a good spokesperson for

hep.

I cant sit in judegment on her motives but I just dont

think she is out there enough telling the truth of

this disease and how MOST of us with it are in our

40's and 50's,, right in the prime of our lives...

just my 2 cents

--- trimenow1234 wrote:

>

> Sorry folks but I am Jewish and we read from right

> to left (reading

> posts in date decending order). But to the point

> about Naomi Judd. I

> am very annoyed at the tact she took when she

> supposedly had HCV.

> Her supposed cure was well timed with being out of

> the singing game

> due to it. Her daughter getting bad press at the

> time and her

> supposed need to use HCV as a springboard for her

> own satisfaction.

> I won't intimate the possibility of a passion to

> regain both

> popularity (for both her and her daughter) but the

> old greed factor.

>

> Just my opinion.

>

> Fred

>

>

>

>

=====

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi Jackie,

I have to think back (Thinking can be dangerous) to all those Stars

that needed Liver Transplants. I always wondered how they got their

Livers so fast. Was it money? Connections? We in the the low and

middle layers have to suffice to bearing the brunt of waiting in

line with in some cases a higher level of need for the organs. With

some dying in the wait. But just a rant :-). Naomi Judd is a poor

excuse for a spokesperson for HCV as she does not exemplify a model

for the direction for prevention ot treatment.

Prayers to you,

Fred

[Guest guest]

I TOTALLY agee with you!

--- trimenow1234 wrote:

>

> Hi Jackie,

>

> I have to think back (Thinking can be dangerous) to

> all those Stars

> that needed Liver Transplants. I always wondered how

> they got their

> Livers so fast. Was it money? Connections? We in the

> the low and

> middle layers have to suffice to bearing the brunt

> of waiting in

> line with in some cases a higher level of need for

> the organs. With

> some dying in the wait. But just a rant :-). Naomi

> Judd is a poor

> excuse for a spokesperson for HCV as she does not

> exemplify a model

> for the direction for prevention ot treatment.

>

> Prayers to you,

> Fred

>

>

>

>

=====

Jackie

[Guest guest]

naomi judd

>

>

>

>

>

> who are we talking about here?

>

>

> In a message dated 1/29/2005 1:22:29 P.M. Eastern

> Standard Time,

> Txshihtzumom@... writes:

>

>

>

> In a message dated 1/29/2005 11:25:42 A.M. Central

> Standard Time,

> evensweeter2001@... writes:

>

> Overall, her whole " publicity stunt " using the

> > Hepatitis C just annoyed the crud out of me...

> but

> > that's just my opinion.

> >

> > M

>

>

> I agree, totally...I was in a chat/support group

> then, and she was

> at a book signing (cookbook, i think) in a town

> where one of the guys on

> the

> list

> lived, and he went to meet her, armed with emails

> from all of us, and he

> was

> wheel

> chair bound from the hep, and with all her

> " support " , and empathy for

> fellow

> heppers, she wouldn't take the emails, nor speak to

> him.

> sooooooooo.....I know in a kinda personal way that

> she sucks..lol

> be well all, Judi in Tx...

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

of course it was money and connections Fred. Did you hear that when Larry

Hagman's gift liver started to fail he has said he won't accept another

transplant? Mickey Mantle bought his liver and then drank it away. Personally I

think people are people. Yes celebrities do get pampered and can have a larger

ego than most but they have to live with themselves just like we do...Naomi has

tried in her own fallable way to educate just like you. We need a spokesperson

but there are no heroes. Where's our White?

Smiling is the latest thing in style, so cheer up and wear a big, broad smile.

If you want to be happy, listen closely to me. If you want to be happy, just

follow this recipe: Take a cup and a half of sunbeams.

Add a couple of drops of love. Take a spoonful of pleasant weather.

Stir the mixture all up together, and make yourself a Happiness Pie.

Written by /Perkins. Recorded by Rodger Ruskin Spear.

[Guest guest]

Hi RIC,

I was being sarcastic with the addition of my dry humor to highlight

the major issue of those who are left hanging while waiting for

Livers. While others get there helping hand through position and

money. Just goes to show the lack of diversity and fairness that is

supposed to be part of the the Transplant procedure. Like Pinchak

used to say " What a country " .

Fred

[Guest guest]

I love the cold weather also, but.......................I leave for work at 4

thirty a.m. and its sooo cold it hurts.................... nne

elizabethnv1 wrote:OH how I envy the cold weather

......................wish Las Vegas had more of it

Re: This needs to be cleared up

hmmmm, we had 17 inches last week, it still didnt clear completly ! Today is

is 7 degrees ..............BRRRR! and, I need to go out in it right now, enjoy

! nne

" Pegasus.Realm " wrote:Ugh yeah... snow on the ground

for the first time this winter. Well we had *snow* twice but just flurries that

didn't stick and burned off within a few hours. It's cold, wet and miserable...

which means I am cold and miserable... LOL Especially since our heater decided

it doesn't want to work right and we're out of firewood. The electric blanket

just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.

[Guest guest]

Well I have to admit that as much as I love the cold and snow ...it sure hurts

the arthritis ,lol burrrrr 430am is too early for me

Re: This needs to be cleared up

hmmmm, we had 17 inches last week, it still didnt clear completly ! Today

is is 7 degrees ..............BRRRR! and, I need to go out in it right now,

enjoy ! nne

" Pegasus.Realm " wrote:Ugh yeah... snow on the ground

for the first time this winter. Well we had *snow* twice but just flurries that

didn't stick and burned off within a few hours. It's cold, wet and miserable...

which means I am cold and miserable... LOL Especially since our heater decided

it doesn't want to work right and we're out of firewood. The electric blanket

just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.

[Guest guest]

for me too, but I am home and finished by 1 thirty...............mm mm mm My

afternoon nap before the husband returns LOL nne

elizabethnv1 wrote:Well I have to admit that as

much as I love the cold and snow ...it sure hurts the arthritis ,lol burrrrr

430am is too early for me

Re: This needs to be cleared up

hmmmm, we had 17 inches last week, it still didnt clear completly ! Today

is is 7 degrees ..............BRRRR! and, I need to go out in it right now,

enjoy ! nne

" Pegasus.Realm " wrote:Ugh yeah... snow on the ground

for the first time this winter. Well we had *snow* twice but just flurries that

didn't stick and burned off within a few hours. It's cold, wet and miserable...

which means I am cold and miserable... LOL Especially since our heater decided

it doesn't want to work right and we're out of firewood. The electric blanket

just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.

[Guest guest]

Well , heck I never thought of it that way ..........that would free up your

afternoons .But still I can barely see when I get up that early ... I have a

high school daughter that has to get up that early for the school bus , ICK

Re: This needs to be cleared up

hmmmm, we had 17 inches last week, it still didnt clear completly ! Today

is is 7 degrees ..............BRRRR! and, I need to go out in it right now,

enjoy ! nne

" Pegasus.Realm " wrote:Ugh yeah... snow on the

ground for the first time this winter. Well we had *snow* twice but just

flurries that didn't stick and burned off within a few hours. It's cold, wet and

miserable... which means I am cold and miserable... LOL Especially since our

heater decided it doesn't want to work right and we're out of firewood. The

electric blanket just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.

[Guest guest]

since I turned 40, I can never sleep past 4 a.m. Sooooooooooooo,

for me its better theat Im busy, or I dwell on the bad stuff LOL nne

elizabethnv1 wrote:Well , heck I never thought of

it that way ..........that would free up your afternoons .But still I can barely

see when I get up that early ... I have a high school daughter that has to get

up that early for the school bus , ICK

Re: This needs to be cleared up

hmmmm, we had 17 inches last week, it still didnt clear completly ! Today

is is 7 degrees ..............BRRRR! and, I need to go out in it right now,

enjoy ! nne

" Pegasus.Realm " wrote:Ugh yeah... snow on the

ground for the first time this winter. Well we had *snow* twice but just

flurries that didn't stick and burned off within a few hours. It's cold, wet and

miserable... which means I am cold and miserable... LOL Especially since our

heater decided it doesn't want to work right and we're out of firewood. The

electric blanket just became my new best friend! LMAO!

Thankfully, it's supposed to start warming back up pretty quickly.