Re: BJ

[Guest guest]

BJ,

Where did you go to find out that the therapist was on probation? We

should all be checking that!

Dina

[Guest guest]

BJ,

 

I am going to make the appointment this Monday, and I hopeand pray the the

therapist that I talked to knows what she is doing.  I am just starting out, so

I may make a few mistakes. 

The therapist told me she works with OCD children and CBT. But she does not do

the ERP therapy.  I just hope that I am not wasting my time.  I have to take off

from work too , and thankfully my parents are paying for the visits until I can

get on my feet financially. 

I have to worry over my son and the bills, and It drives me crazy.  I stay so

tired all time, and Friday I went to give blood to have some things checked

out.  I have anxiety, OCD, severe mood swing disorder and I am bipolar, so I

know my son gets all this crap from me.  The ADHD I thinks is on my husbands's

side of the family.

I will let you know how the visits go with the new doctor.

Thank you again,

Vickie

Subject: Re: Grace

To:

Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 10:24 PM

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> > > My 9 yr old son always seems to have a nervous habit. It used to

> > be

> > > nail biting, then biting his tongue until it bled, then biting

> his

> > > lip, then blinking his eyes, then rolling his eyes, then cracking

> > his

> > > knuckles, etc. When I point it out to him, he stops, and then

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> > > habit tends to taper off, but then he picks up a new one. Last

> > week,

> > > he was back to biting his lip, but now he's got such a huge sore

> > that

> > > he's having trouble eating. So now he's back to rolling his

> eyes.

> > > He has dry eyes to begin with, so I never know how much of the

> > > blinking/rolling is due to irritation, or if it's a nervous

> habit.

> > > He tells me that it's just a habit, and it's so hard to stop. My

> > > husband thinks I bother him too much about these habits, and

> should

> > > just leave him alone. Do any of your kids have nervous habits,

> and

> > > if so, do you do anything about it?

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> > > This really is a minor problem compared with some of the other

> > stuff

> > > he's dealt with, but it's still anxiety related, and I'm

> wondering

> > > whether to work on it or not.

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> > > Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Hi, Vickie. If she does not do ERP, I would be a little concerned.

CBT is used to treat things other than OCD, so unless she knows how to

specifically apply it to OCD, I would also be a bit concerned.

When I was looking for a therapist, I found many who said they used

CBT, and they also said they knew how to treat OCD. But, if they

didn't know what ERP was, or how to use it, I walked away and

continued to look for someone who did. It is very important to the

improvement of OCD.

I feel bad because you have this appointment all set up for Monday,

and I don't want to rain on your parade. But, you mentioned your

financial situation and I hate to see you waste your time and money.

If it were me, I would keep the appointment, but ask her to

specifically lay out how she treats OCD, when you are there.. .See,

what her methods and her plan is. Give her a chance, to see if she

can help, but if she doesn't want or know how to use exposure therapy,

or how to use CBT in a way that targets OCD thoughts, I would look

elsewhere. Because too many use talk therapy, but it just doesn't

help with the actual OCD.

One thing I did while searching for a therapist, was interview them

over the phone, before making an appointment. Many will give you a

consultation for free. I would just leave a message for them to call

me back at their convenience. Then you can be sure before you get

there, that they are going to do what needs to be done to help. And

you will get your precious money's worth (assuming that like us money

is scarce and precious). Also that preserved our limited appointments

for actual therapy, instead of using them up trying to find a therapist.

Please let us know how it goes.

Hugs,

BJ

> > > >

> > > > My 9 yr old son always seems to have a nervous habit. It used to

> > > be

> > > > nail biting, then biting his tongue until it bled, then biting

> > his

> > > > lip, then blinking his eyes, then rolling his eyes, then cracking

> > > his

> > > > knuckles, etc. When I point it out to him, he stops, and then

> > the

> > > > habit tends to taper off, but then he picks up a new one. Last

> > > week,

> > > > he was back to biting his lip, but now he's got such a huge sore

> > > that

> > > > he's having trouble eating. So now he's back to rolling his

> > eyes.

> > > > He has dry eyes to begin with, so I never know how much of the

> > > > blinking/rolling is due to irritation, or if it's a nervous

> > habit.

> > > > He tells me that it's just a habit, and it's so hard to stop. My

> > > > husband thinks I bother him too much about these habits, and

> > should

> > > > just leave him alone. Do any of your kids have nervous habits,

> > and

> > > > if so, do you do anything about it?

> > > >

> > > > This really is a minor problem compared with some of the other

> > > stuff

> > > > he's dealt with, but it's still anxiety related, and I'm

> > wondering

> > > > whether to work on it or not.

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[Guest guest]

BJ,

 

Actually the child psychiatrist is who we were wanting to see. I may have to

find another place to do the therapy , since the one at   this place only does

CBT and not the ERP.

I have not made an appointment just yet because I wanted to talk to my son about

it this weekend.  I may just look further.  When I talked to the therapist on

the phone, it sounded like to me she just was not sure.  I asked her two times

if she done CBT for Ocd and she told me that she did, but she did not do the ERP

therapy.  That may sound strange, what do you think?

Vickie

Subject: Re: BJ

To:

Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 12:45 AM

Hi, Vickie. If she does not do ERP, I would be a little concerned.

CBT is used to treat things other than OCD, so unless she knows how to

specifically apply it to OCD, I would also be a bit concerned.

When I was looking for a therapist, I found many who said they used

CBT, and they also said they knew how to treat OCD. But, if they

didn't know what ERP was, or how to use it, I walked away and

continued to look for someone who did. It is very important to the

improvement of OCD.

I feel bad because you have this appointment all set up for Monday,

and I don't want to rain on your parade. But, you mentioned your

financial situation and I hate to see you waste your time and money.

If it were me, I would keep the appointment, but ask her to

specifically lay out how she treats OCD, when you are there.. .See,

what her methods and her plan is. Give her a chance, to see if she

can help, but if she doesn't want or know how to use exposure therapy,

or how to use CBT in a way that targets OCD thoughts, I would look

elsewhere. Because too many use talk therapy, but it just doesn't

help with the actual OCD.

One thing I did while searching for a therapist, was interview them

over the phone, before making an appointment. Many will give you a

consultation for free. I would just leave a message for them to call

me back at their convenience. Then you can be sure before you get

there, that they are going to do what needs to be done to help. And

you will get your precious money's worth (assuming that like us money

is scarce and precious). Also that preserved our limited appointments

for actual therapy, instead of using them up trying to find a therapist.

Please let us know how it goes.

Hugs,

BJ

> > > >

> > > > My 9 yr old son always seems to have a nervous habit. It used to

> > > be

> > > > nail biting, then biting his tongue until it bled, then biting

> > his

> > > > lip, then blinking his eyes, then rolling his eyes, then cracking

> > > his

> > > > knuckles, etc. When I point it out to him, he stops, and then

> > the

> > > > habit tends to taper off, but then he picks up a new one. Last

> > > week,

> > > > he was back to biting his lip, but now he's got such a huge sore

> > > that

> > > > he's having trouble eating. So now he's back to rolling his

> > eyes.

> > > > He has dry eyes to begin with, so I never know how much of the

> > > > blinking/rolling is due to irritation, or if it's a nervous

> > habit.

> > > > He tells me that it's just a habit, and it's so hard to stop. My

> > > > husband thinks I bother him too much about these habits, and

> > should

> > > > just leave him alone. Do any of your kids have nervous habits,

> > and

> > > > if so, do you do anything about it?

> > > >

> > > > This really is a minor problem compared with some of the other

> > > stuff

> > > > he's dealt with, but it's still anxiety related, and I'm

> > wondering

> > > > whether to work on it or not.

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> > > > Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

BJ,

 

I guess it would be alright to check out this pyschiatrist since his doctor

recommended her. But, I am not sure about the therapist that works there since

she said that she does CBT and not ERP.  Jake seems to be better today, but I

sure would hate to take him to the doctor and get him on medicine that goes

against him.  I keep asking myself if he really needs another doctor and

different medicine.  I keep putting it off.  I was hoping to find a good child

psychologist to help with OCD and skip the meds, but he may need both.

It is just a decision that is driving me crazy. I can't seem to make up my mind

about it.

I know what those AD will do people. I have taken several before I found one

that worked for me. I did print out the list on the OCD foundation.  I found a

doctor in Lagrange, ga .

I think they have the pyschiatrist and psychologsist.  I may call them tomorrow

also and check them out.

Thank you again ,

 

Vickie

Subject: Re: BJ

To:

Date: Sunday, January 11, 2009, 6:43 PM

Oh, that makes sense then, Vickie. Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought

you were seeing a therapist on Monday, not a psychiatrist. Typically

a psychiatrist takes care of the meds, then a therapist does the

actual therapy. Although, you can find an occasional psychiatrist who

will do the therapy.

Yes, I would say if they don't know or do ERP, then they aren't

trained in treating OCD. I hope you find someone easily. People who

really know how to treat OCD, can be rare and hard to find. I

searched for about 3 months, but my state is especially bad.

Did you try the ocfoundation. org website? They might have someone for

you.

BJ

> > > > >

> > > > > My 9 yr old son always seems to have a nervous habit. It

used to

> > > > be

> > > > > nail biting, then biting his tongue until it bled, then biting

> > > his

> > > > > lip, then blinking his eyes, then rolling his eyes, then

cracking

> > > > his

> > > > > knuckles, etc. When I point it out to him, he stops, and then

> > > the

> > > > > habit tends to taper off, but then he picks up a new one. Last

> > > > week,

> > > > > he was back to biting his lip, but now he's got such a huge

sore

> > > > that

> > > > > he's having trouble eating. So now he's back to rolling his

> > > eyes.

> > > > > He has dry eyes to begin with, so I never know how much of the

> > > > > blinking/rolling is due to irritation, or if it's a nervous

> > > habit.

> > > > > He tells me that it's just a habit, and it's so hard to

stop. My

> > > > > husband thinks I bother him too much about these habits, and

> > > should

> > > > > just leave him alone. Do any of your kids have nervous habits,

> > > and

> > > > > if so, do you do anything about it?

> > > > >

> > > > > This really is a minor problem compared with some of the other

> > > > stuff

> > > > > he's dealt with, but it's still anxiety related, and I'm

> > > wondering

> > > > > whether to work on it or not.

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks.

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[Guest guest]

Hi All,

I noticed that BJ mentioned, " chewed up clothing " as part of a tic. I don't

think that I understand exactly what a tic is. My dd used to chew on her hair.

Drove me nuts. That stopped, now, it's any shirt she wears with a tie, she has

the string in her mouth, non-stop. I thought of it as a nervous habit, not a

tic. What exactly is a tic????? Is there a specific definition or something, a

list of things?

Thanks!

Darletta

[Guest guest]

Hi, Darletta. ) I think someone else referred to it as a tic, and

I said our son also had chewed on his clothes. Honestly, I'm not sure

if that is specifically a tic or not. Although, I have read nervous

mannerisms compared to tics, so maybe it could be. Truly not sure. I

thought a true tic is something more along the lines of involuntary

movements, or vocal noises. You know, something like jerking

movements, eye blinks, face grimaces, shoulder shrugs, grunts, sniffs,

throat clearing, etc. Hopefully someone here knows for sure though.

But, I'm thinking the same way you are, that other than that could be

a nervous habit, like biting nails is.

BJ

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> Hi All,

> I noticed that BJ mentioned, " chewed up clothing " as part of a tic.

I don't think that I understand exactly what a tic is. My dd used to

chew on her hair. Drove me nuts. That stopped, now, it's any shirt she

wears with a tie, she has the string in her mouth, non-stop. I thought

of it as a nervous habit, not a tic. What exactly is a tic????? Is

there a specific definition or something, a list of things?

> Thanks!

> Darletta

>

[Guest guest]

http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com/all_about_tics.htm#TicList

The above link has a list of tics. Nail biting and clothes biting

are on the list. My daughter has ocd and a tic disorder, and she has

been through both of those, as well as many others.

Q

> Hi, Darletta. ) I think someone else referred to it as a tic, and

> I said our son also had chewed on his clothes. Honestly, I'm not sure

> if that is specifically a tic or not. Although, I have read nervous

> mannerisms compared to tics, so maybe it could be. Truly not sure. I

> thought a true tic is something more along the lines of involuntary

> movements, or vocal noises. You know, something like jerking

> movements, eye blinks, face grimaces, shoulder shrugs, grunts, sniffs,

> throat clearing, etc. Hopefully someone here knows for sure though.

> But, I'm thinking the same way you are, that other than that could be

> a nervous habit, like biting nails is.

>

> BJ

>

>

>

> >

> > Hi All,

> > I noticed that BJ mentioned, " chewed up clothing " as part of a tic.

> I don't think that I understand exactly what a tic is. My dd used to

> chew on her hair. Drove me nuts. That stopped, now, it's any shirt she

> wears with a tie, she has the string in her mouth, non-stop. I thought

> of it as a nervous habit, not a tic. What exactly is a tic????? Is

> there a specific definition or something, a list of things?

> > Thanks!

> > Darletta

> >

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It is important to check out the scientific basis of such things.  That link is

not a medical site, but one started by some parents of kids with Tourettes.  In

fact, half the world are nail biters and it isn't unusual for children to suck

on their sleeves or their collars.  These are just nervous habits or actually

just something that they find enjoyable to do.  My daughter has OCD and trich

(hair pulling).  Hair pulling is something that she finds incredibly soothing

when she feels stressed, but also something she finds soothing to do while she

is reading, etc.  She also bites her nails to the quick and picks at her skin.

 She is highly anxious and find these to be ways to cope with it.  

I love to bite my nails, but have outgrown the habit unless a nail breaks and

then I allow myself to do it in a controlled way.  I also think that since I

have my OCD under control due to medication, I probably have less of a need to

bite my nails because I don't have that level of anxiety.  

Re: Re: BJ

http://tourettenowwhat.tripod.com/all_about_tics.htm#TicList

The above link has a list of tics. Nail biting and clothes biting

are on the list. My daughter has ocd and a tic disorder, and she

has

been through both of those, as well as many others.

Q

> Hi, Darletta. ) I think someone else referred to it as a tic, and

> I said our son also had chewed on his clothes. Honestly, I'm not sure

> if that is specifically a tic or not. Although, I have read nervous

> mannerisms compared to tics, so maybe it could be. Truly not sure. I

> thought a true tic is something more along the lines of involuntary

> movements, or vocal noises. You know, something like jerking

> movements, eye blinks, face grimaces, shoulder shrugs, grunts, sniffs,

> throat clearing, etc. Hopefully someone here knows for sure though.

> But, I'm thinking the same way you are, that other than that could be

> a nervous habit, like biting nails is.

>

> BJ

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> > Hi All,

> > I noticed that BJ mentioned, " chewed up clothing " as part of a tic.

> I don't think that I understand exactly what a tic is. My dd used to

> chew on her hair. Drove me nuts. That stopped, now, it's any shirt she

> wears with a tie, she has the string in her mouth, non-stop. I thought

> of it as a nervous habit, not a tic. What exactly is a tic????? Is

> there a specific definition or something, a list of things?

> > Thanks!

> > Darletta

> >

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[Guest guest]

Wow! That is quite a list. Thanks, . It's good to know.

BJ

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> > > Hi All,

> > > I noticed that BJ mentioned, " chewed up clothing " as part of a tic.

> > I don't think that I understand exactly what a tic is. My dd used to

> > chew on her hair. Drove me nuts. That stopped, now, it's any shirt she

> > wears with a tie, she has the string in her mouth, non-stop. I thought

> > of it as a nervous habit, not a tic. What exactly is a tic????? Is

> > there a specific definition or something, a list of things?

> > > Thanks!

> > > Darletta

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