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Hi

I've only been listening to for about a month. She is awesome and the

podcasts have been incredibly helpful. I went through a partial

hospitalization frogram for ED (eating disorder) in September of 2007 after

driving myself into the ground. I was working two full time jobs, overeating

due to the stress of it all, and the extra weight I gained sent me into a

depression.

What I love about her program is that it truly is about changing from the

inside out. It promotes love and forgiveness, self acceptance and gentleness

in your weight loss journey. It in no way conflicts or triggers a person who

has an ED. I'm feelign much better in ALL areas of my life. I'm eating well,

(not starving myself) feeling great, and my depression has lifted. I got

accused by a co-worker last week of taking " happy pills " . My outside

circumstances have not changed all that much, other than the improvement of

my relationships and slowly the weight is starting to drop off, but my

attitude and level of Gratitude is improving enormously!

Welcome to the group,

B

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:27 AM, christine_harris@... <

christine_harris@...> wrote:

> I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

> I have been needing for a long time.

> I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> you are all doing.

> Thanks for creating a place to share!

> Chris

>

>

>

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HI and welcome!!!

I am so glad you joined us! This is an amazing community with the best folks

I have met in ages!!! Welcome to the journey!!!

I live in Olympia WA and have been listening to since last early

spring/late winter! I have as of yesterday morning 2lbs to my goal and it

has been easy and fun!!

Again welcome and

AS my son insists: Merry New Year!!!

LE

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:27 AM, christine_harris@... <

christine_harris@...> wrote:

> I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

> I have been needing for a long time.

> I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> you are all doing.

> Thanks for creating a place to share!

> Chris

>

>

>

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I listened to the first podcast on 2nd January 2008. I will be eternally

grateful that I did. The place that I was at that time was not good - my new

year's resolution was not be concerned about my weight as I thought that nothing

was going to work. 

The difference the year has made is enormous - I wont bore you with details, but

2008 was a watermark year for me, I believe IOWL was my main source of strength.

I will admit that my weight loss was slow, and if I had to pay Weightwatchers or

something similar I would have been discouraged and given up- but with

encouragement from this group and the Podcasts, I stuck at it all year, and now

can boast that I am at the correct BMI - although I'd like to be a little less.

So all new comers - welcome and enjoy the journey.

Cheers

Carol

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Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 3:27:51 AM

Subject: New Day New Beginning

I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9.. I am very

impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

I have been needing for a long time.

I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

you are all doing.

Thanks for creating a place to share!

Chris

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Hello!

I just started listening to not too long ago...maybe a month? I

am slowly working my way through the podcasts, so don't worry, you are

not behind. I have decided to begin this new year by following 's

advice and taking care of myself. I hope that I can get back to where I

want to be (which is eating normally - no more binges - and losing

about 5-10 lbs, which doesn't seem like a lot, but the binges don't

help).

Kirsten

>

> I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is

what

> I have been needing for a long time.

> I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> you are all doing.

> Thanks for creating a place to share!

> Chris

>

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WELCOME !

This is a great community - amazing folks who are learning to walk as

naturally slender folks=

keep listening and stay connected

LE

> Hello!

>

> I just started listening to not too long ago...maybe a month? I

> am slowly working my way through the podcasts, so don't worry, you are

> not behind. I have decided to begin this new year by following 's

> advice and taking care of myself. I hope that I can get back to where I

> want to be (which is eating normally - no more binges - and losing

> about 5-10 lbs, which doesn't seem like a lot, but the binges don't

> help).

>

> Kirsten

>

>

> >

> > I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> > and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> > impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is

> what

> > I have been needing for a long time.

> > I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> > you are all doing.

> > Thanks for creating a place to share!

> > Chris

> >

>

>

>

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,

thank you for sharing your story. it's inspiring to me to hear the stories

here of those that have overcome huge obstacles and are now that much better

because of it.

I do take what I call my 'happy pills' (antidepressants) and while they do

seem to help avert depression most of the time, I have realized that they do

nothing to give me the natural 'high' and satisfaction that comes with

taking care of myself and my body. to have someone accuse me of taking

pills to be happy when I wasn't is something I would consider an

accomplishment! I hope it made you feel great about what you're doing.

keep it up, it seems like you are doing absolutely excellently.

audrey

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Bjorkquist <takekyukido@...

> wrote:

> Hi

> I've only been listening to for about a month. She is awesome and the

> podcasts have been incredibly helpful. I went through a partial

> hospitalization frogram for ED (eating disorder) in September of 2007 after

> driving myself into the ground. I was working two full time jobs,

> overeating

> due to the stress of it all, and the extra weight I gained sent me into a

> depression.

>

> What I love about her program is that it truly is about changing from the

> inside out. It promotes love and forgiveness, self acceptance and

> gentleness

> in your weight loss journey. It in no way conflicts or triggers a person

> who

> has an ED. I'm feelign much better in ALL areas of my life. I'm eating

> well,

> (not starving myself) feeling great, and my depression has lifted. I got

> accused by a co-worker last week of taking " happy pills " . My outside

> circumstances have not changed all that much, other than the improvement of

> my relationships and slowly the weight is starting to drop off, but my

> attitude and level of Gratitude is improving enormously!

> Welcome to the group,

> B

>

> On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:27 AM,

christine_harris@...<christine_harris%40att.net><

> christine_harris@... <christine_harris%40att.net>> wrote:

>

> > I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> > and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> > impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

> > I have been needing for a long time.

> > I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> > you are all doing.

> > Thanks for creating a place to share!

> > Chris

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Thanks !  Wow, sounds like you are doing great.  Thanks so much for

sharing.  I agree totally with you that 's program is totally about

changing from the inside out.  I have felt like this is what I have been looking

for, for a very long time.  The more I listen to her the more it makes sense. 

It has just clicked with me. I am really looking forward to continuing the

process of getting to know myself in a kind and loving way.

Thanks again!

Chris

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Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2009 12:48:18 PM

Subject: Re: New Day New Beginning

Hi

I've only been listening to for about a month. She is awesome and the

podcasts have been incredibly helpful. I went through a partial

hospitalization frogram for ED (eating disorder) in September of 2007 after

driving myself into the ground. I was working two full time jobs, overeating

due to the stress of it all, and the extra weight I gained sent me into a

depression.

What I love about her program is that it truly is about changing from the

inside out. It promotes love and forgiveness, self acceptance and gentleness

in your weight loss journey. It in no way conflicts or triggers a person who

has an ED. I'm feelign much better in ALL areas of my life. I'm eating well,

(not starving myself) feeling great, and my depression has lifted. I got

accused by a co-worker last week of taking " happy pills " . My outside

circumstances have not changed all that much, other than the improvement of

my relationships and slowly the weight is starting to drop off, but my

attitude and level of Gratitude is improving enormously!

Welcome to the group,

B

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 10:27 AM, christine_harris@ att.net <

christine_harris@ att.net> wrote:

> I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

> I have been needing for a long time.

> I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> you are all doing.

> Thanks for creating a place to share!

> Chris

>

>

>

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Thanks so much for the warm welcome!  I am so excited for you to be so close to

your goal!!  So far in listening to it does feel very easy and almost like

coming home.  What she says just makes sense to me.  I live in Michigan and

those cold winters do make for large butts and thighs.  (Like I could blame it

on Michigan).  But I am gladly looking forward to incorporating this new life

style into who I am and who I want to become.

Thanks,

Chris

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To: insideoutweightloss

Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2009 1:10:59 PM

Subject: Re: New Day New Beginning

HI and welcome!!!

I am so glad you joined us! This is an amazing community with the best folks

I have met in ages!!! Welcome to the journey!!!

I live in Olympia WA and have been listening to since last early

spring/late winter! I have as of yesterday morning 2lbs to my goal and it

has been easy and fun!!

Again welcome and

AS my son insists: Merry New Year!!!

LE

On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 8:27 AM, christine_harris@ att.net <

christine_harris@ att.net> wrote:

> I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

> I have been needing for a long time.

> I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> you are all doing.

> Thanks for creating a place to share!

> Chris

>

>

>

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Carol,

Wow that's is great to hear and very inspiring.  Speaking for someone that is

just beginning this journey,  I am very grateful to hear how well you are

doing.  It is reassuring that others see, and hear, and feel the same way that I

do about this experience.

Thanks and congratulations!

Chris

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To: insideoutweightloss

Sent: Thursday, January 1, 2009 3:42:16 PM

Subject: Re: New Day New Beginning

I listened to the first podcast on 2nd January 2008. I will be eternally

grateful that I did. The place that I was at that time was not good - my new

year's resolution was not be concerned about my weight as I thought that nothing

was going to work. 

The difference the year has made is enormous - I wont bore you with details, but

2008 was a watermark year for me, I believe IOWL was my main source of strength.

I will admit that my weight loss was slow, and if I had to pay Weightwatchers or

something similar I would have been discouraged and given up- but with

encouragement from this group and the Podcasts, I stuck at it all year, and now

can boast that I am at the correct BMI - although I'd like to be a little less.

So all new comers - welcome and enjoy the journey.

Cheers

Carol

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To: insideoutweightloss @yahoogroups. com

Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 3:27:51 AM

Subject: [insideoutweightlos s] New Day New Beginning

I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9.. I am very

impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

I have been needing for a long time.

I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

you are all doing.

Thanks for creating a place to share!

Chris

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Hi Kirsten,

I have been listening to for about a week and like you, am slowly making

my way through the podcasts.  I find that each podcast has another jewel of

information for me to wrap my arms around.   I have struggled with my weight all

my life and have tried different diets, but this is so different.  I feel so

different.  I love it!

Thanks,

Chris 

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Sent: Friday, January 2, 2009 12:03:51 AM

Subject: Re: New Day New Beginning

Hello!

I just started listening to not too long ago...maybe a month? I

am slowly working my way through the podcasts, so don't worry, you are

not behind. I have decided to begin this new year by following 's

advice and taking care of myself. I hope that I can get back to where I

want to be (which is eating normally - no more binges - and losing

about 5-10 lbs, which doesn't seem like a lot, but the binges don't

help).

Kirsten

>

> I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is

what

> I have been needing for a long time.

> I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> you are all doing.

> Thanks for creating a place to share!

> Chris

>

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Hi,

You asked, " I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and

how you are all doing. "

I have been listening to 's podcast's for over 4 months. I've listened to

every episode 3-4 times. I think I learn something new every time I listen;

sometimes it's just re-learning ideas that I have let slip away. Today I

listened to some of the podcasts on self-acceptance  throughout the day, and

idea of self-acceptance spoke me to me in a different way than it did the other

times I had listened. I had been feeling down about my slow progress for the

past two days, and it inspired me to be thankful for the current state of my

body.

I've lost 37 pounds in 36 weeks (almost 8 months), which is I know is a healthy

rate of loss. What I find frustrating is how long it will take me to reach my

goal (8 more months?). I'm exactly 37 pounds above what a healthy BMI is for my

height. That means I'm only half-way there. I know, the " myth of arrival " is my

problem, but I wish I could fast forward my life sometimes. I know it's silly

and riduculous, but it's like when I was a child, waiting to open up my

Christmas presents on X-mas Eve (We weren't allowed to open them until Christmas

morning).

If it weren't for 's podcasts, I don't think I would be motivated enough to

continue. She makes me feel great after listening. In the past, I lose about

30-35 pounds within 6 months and I give up. I believe that IOWL is what will

keep me going this time. I'm just as motivated now as I was on day 1. And it has

been easy...all except for the impatience that I felt for 2 days this week! lol

Bev

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Hi

I am also new to the group. I'd say I've been listening for about a

week. I'm near episode 20, its hard to keep track because I load them

onto my iPod and listen as I work out or ride in the car back to back.

I'm probably not following the program the way I'm " supposed to, " but I

know that it motivates me during my workouts to hear talk about

the things I need to hear.

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Jarrod,

I think that one of the things I love most about the IOWL podcasts is that

it really isn't a 'program'. I have been listening for about 3 months now,

and while I actually gained a couple pounds over the holidays, I have also

been noticing behavior changes within myself that I know are going to make

it so much easier to get them off again. these podcasts aren't just another

weight loss program that you have to stick to forever or you'll regain all

of the weight you lost. everything that suggests is a way to live a

healthier life, making new habits that will become such a part of what you

do that you don't even notice them anymore, and therefore become naturally

slender.

I remember from your introduction post that you said something regarding

others being 'serious' about weight loss. I have been in the same boat

recently... a friend has agreed to start a fitness program together on two

different occasions, and has backed out of each one at the start, claiming

that she wasn't feeling well, then just 'forgetting' about the program when

she felt better. I have persisted, because 's podcasts have helped me

learn that I am in control of no one but myself. I have a huge tendency to

feel like I am failing because I can't make other people healthy on top of

not being able to make myself healthy... but I have really been focusing the

past couple of weeks on being responsible for -me- and only me. it has

helped not only with my health, but with my job satisfaction and

relationship satisfaction as well.

I'm so glad you've found this group. even in the short time I have been

listening & reading & involved, I have gotten more support here than from

anywhere else. I'm sure you will get the same!

audrey

> Hi

>

> I am also new to the group. I'd say I've been listening for about a

> week. I'm near episode 20, its hard to keep track because I load them

> onto my iPod and listen as I work out or ride in the car back to back.

> I'm probably not following the program the way I'm " supposed to, " but I

> know that it motivates me during my workouts to hear talk about

> the things I need to hear.

>

>

>

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This makes me wonder, what does being " serious " about this means? I have to

admit when I first read that I found myself cringing, because the old

self-critical voice began, " oh no, you are not going to be SERIOUS enough to

make progress. you won't be DEDICATED enough and have enough WILLPOWER...: "

Which is a really bad head-spiral for me. But I think what we mean by this is

what always says, that you have to put in to get out, etc.

I'm really trying not to white-knuckle my way through this process, and if it

means it takes longer I'm ok with that. I have noticed that some of my clothes

are a little looser around the middle! Could it be that I've lost a few pounds!

I don't weight myself so this is how I track on things.

And also I wanted to put a " shout out " to Zumba - does anyone else do this?

It's an amazing latin fitness dancing class/DVD that kicks your core's butt!

(If that were posible :-))

Love you guys. I feel so much positive energy from you all.

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Jarrod,

I think that one of the things I love most about the IOWL podcasts is that

it really isn't a 'program'. I have been listening for about 3 months now,

and while I actually gained a couple pounds over the holidays, I have also

been noticing behavior changes within myself that I know are going to make

it so much easier to get them off again. these podcasts aren't just another

weight loss program that you have to stick to forever or you'll regain all

of the weight you lost. everything that suggests is a way to live a

healthier life, making new habits that will become such a part of what you

do that you don't even notice them anymore, and therefore become naturally

slender.

I remember from your introduction post that you said something regarding

others being 'serious' about weight loss. I have been in the same boat

recently... a friend has agreed to start a fitness program together on two

different occasions, and has backed out of each one at the start, claiming

that she wasn't feeling well, then just 'forgetting' about the program when

she felt better. I have persisted, because 's podcasts have helped me

learn that I am in control of no one but myself. I have a huge tendency to

feel like I am failing because I can't make other people healthy on top of

not being able to make myself healthy... but I have really been focusing the

past couple of weeks on being responsible for -me- and only me. it has

helped not only with my health, but with my job satisfaction and

relationship satisfaction as well.

I'm so glad you've found this group. even in the short time I have been

listening & reading & involved, I have gotten more support here than from

anywhere else. I'm sure you will get the same!

audrey

> Hi

>

> I am also new to the group. I'd say I've been listening for about a

> week. I'm near episode 20, its hard to keep track because I load them

> onto my iPod and listen as I work out or ride in the car back to back.

> I'm probably not following the program the way I'm " supposed to, " but I

> know that it motivates me during my workouts to hear talk about

> the things I need to hear.

>

>

>

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zumba ROCKS!!!! iT IS DEFINATELY CORE WORKOUT!

LE

> This makes me wonder, what does being " serious " about this means? I have

> to admit when I first read that I found myself cringing, because the old

> self-critical voice began, " oh no, you are not going to be SERIOUS enough to

> make progress. you won't be DEDICATED enough and have enough WILLPOWER...: "

> Which is a really bad head-spiral for me. But I think what we mean by this

> is what always says, that you have to put in to get out, etc.

>

> I'm really trying not to white-knuckle my way through this process, and if

> it means it takes longer I'm ok with that. I have noticed that some of my

> clothes are a little looser around the middle! Could it be that I've lost a

> few pounds! I don't weight myself so this is how I track on things.

>

> And also I wanted to put a " shout out " to Zumba - does anyone else do this?

> It's an amazing latin fitness dancing class/DVD that kicks your core's butt!

> (If that were posible :-))

>

> Love you guys. I feel so much positive energy from you all.

>

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

> From: " Audrey " <cresent24@... <cresent24%40gmail.com>>

> Jarrod,

> I think that one of the things I love most about the IOWL podcasts is that

> it really isn't a 'program'. I have been listening for about 3 months now,

> and while I actually gained a couple pounds over the holidays, I have also

> been noticing behavior changes within myself that I know are going to make

> it so much easier to get them off again. these podcasts aren't just another

> weight loss program that you have to stick to forever or you'll regain all

> of the weight you lost. everything that suggests is a way to live a

> healthier life, making new habits that will become such a part of what you

> do that you don't even notice them anymore, and therefore become naturally

> slender.

> I remember from your introduction post that you said something regarding

> others being 'serious' about weight loss. I have been in the same boat

> recently... a friend has agreed to start a fitness program together on two

> different occasions, and has backed out of each one at the start, claiming

> that she wasn't feeling well, then just 'forgetting' about the program when

> she felt better. I have persisted, because 's podcasts have helped me

> learn that I am in control of no one but myself. I have a huge tendency to

> feel like I am failing because I can't make other people healthy on top of

> not being able to make myself healthy... but I have really been focusing

> the

> past couple of weeks on being responsible for -me- and only me. it has

> helped not only with my health, but with my job satisfaction and

> relationship satisfaction as well.

> I'm so glad you've found this group. even in the short time I have been

> listening & reading & involved, I have gotten more support here than from

> anywhere else. I'm sure you will get the same!

>

> audrey

>

> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, jarrod.dumas

<jarrod.dumas@...<jarrod.dumas%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi

> >

> > I am also new to the group. I'd say I've been listening for about a

> > week. I'm near episode 20, its hard to keep track because I load them

> > onto my iPod and listen as I work out or ride in the car back to back.

> > I'm probably not following the program the way I'm " supposed to, " but I

> > know that it motivates me during my workouts to hear talk about

> > the things I need to hear.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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it's a good point to bring up what being 'serious' about this means. to me,

it is not about 'white-knuckling' it as likes to say, just buckling

down and sucking it up and 'walking it off' until I have lost the weight and

am happy and get over myself. I suppose instead of using the word 'serious'

I should use the word 'realistic'. for example, a co-worker of mine

exclaims to quite a few people every month or so about the new diet she's

trying, or that she's going to start walking again, only to not follow

through with anything that she says. I think she really -wants- to do these

things for herself, but when I or anyone try to talk to her about 'fad'

diets, or give her good places to gather information, she always goes back

to the 'well I'm going to try it, and if it doesn't work, I'll do what you

suggested'.

to me, being serious about anything in your life means not giving up on it

just because I've not taken steps when I should have, or because I'm having

to do something that I don't know how to do or that I don't feel comfortable

doing. I just listened to the IOWL podcast that talks about us being 'our

own worst oppressors'. this struck a chord with me, because deep down I

know that if I hadn't given in to my feelings and let them override my good

sense all of these times, I -would- be a naturally slender person and I

-wouldn't- have so many of the issues that I do with food. but, ever so

slowly (and surely!) I am learning to be serious and realistic, I am

learning to take those small steps and to not just completely give up when I

feel like I have missed one. I just get frustrated when I can't get the

people I love to learn the same things with me!! ;)

audrey

> This makes me wonder, what does being " serious " about this means? I have

> to admit when I first read that I found myself cringing, because the old

> self-critical voice began, " oh no, you are not going to be SERIOUS enough to

> make progress. you won't be DEDICATED enough and have enough WILLPOWER...: "

> Which is a really bad head-spiral for me. But I think what we mean by this

> is what always says, that you have to put in to get out, etc.

>

> I'm really trying not to white-knuckle my way through this process, and if

> it means it takes longer I'm ok with that. I have noticed that some of my

> clothes are a little looser around the middle! Could it be that I've lost a

> few pounds! I don't weight myself so this is how I track on things.

>

> And also I wanted to put a " shout out " to Zumba - does anyone else do

> this? It's an amazing latin fitness dancing class/DVD that kicks your

> core's butt! (If that were posible :-))

>

> Love you guys. I feel so much positive energy from you all.

>

>

>

>

> -------------- Original message --------------

>

>

> Jarrod,

> I think that one of the things I love most about the IOWL podcasts is that

> it really isn't a 'program'. I have been listening for about 3 months now,

> and while I actually gained a couple pounds over the holidays, I have also

> been noticing behavior changes within myself that I know are going to make

> it so much easier to get them off again. these podcasts aren't just another

> weight loss program that you have to stick to forever or you'll regain all

> of the weight you lost. everything that suggests is a way to live a

> healthier life, making new habits that will become such a part of what you

> do that you don't even notice them anymore, and therefore become naturally

> slender.

> I remember from your introduction post that you said something regarding

> others being 'serious' about weight loss. I have been in the same boat

> recently... a friend has agreed to start a fitness program together on two

> different occasions, and has backed out of each one at the start, claiming

> that she wasn't feeling well, then just 'forgetting' about the program when

> she felt better. I have persisted, because 's podcasts have helped me

> learn that I am in control of no one but myself. I have a huge tendency to

> feel like I am failing because I can't make other people healthy on top of

> not being able to make myself healthy... but I have really been focusing

> the

> past couple of weeks on being responsible for -me- and only me. it has

> helped not only with my health, but with my job satisfaction and

> relationship satisfaction as well.

> I'm so glad you've found this group. even in the short time I have been

> listening & reading & involved, I have gotten more support here than from

> anywhere else. I'm sure you will get the same!

>

> audrey

>

> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:52 PM, jarrod.dumas

<jarrod.dumas@...<jarrod.dumas%40gmail.com>>

> wrote:

>

> > Hi

> *>

>

> > I am also new to the group. I'd say I've been listening for about a

> > week. I'm near episode 20, its hard to keep track because I load them

> > onto my iPod and listen as I work out or ride in the car back to back.

> > I'm probably not following the program the way I'm " supposed to, " but I

> > know that it motivates me during my workouts to hear talk about

> > the things I need to hear.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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Hi Audrey,

Yes, you make a good point about the fact that IOWL is not

programmatic. That might be what is so freeing and great about it! In

fact, if anything, the podcasts seem to help you understand that it

isn't the programs, the diets, the tricks that help you become

healthier, its YOURSELF--those other things are, at best, tools that

can help us but they aren't magic cure-alls... Thanks for making that

point and reminding me.

Thanks for the affirmation about " being serious about getting in

shape. " It sounds like your friend wasn't really ready. As

points out, you seem to realize that you have to put yourself first,

especially when it comes to something as " big " (sorry for the pun) as

this. Then again, as another contributor pointed out through a

wonderful quote the other day, maybe its our just getting out there and

doing it that will lead others to do it for themselves. At the end of

the day, it seems good to talk to other folks who are in the same place

I am.

Jarrod

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Hi ,

Thank you for making the point that you did. It's a valid point, and

the word " serious " probably sounds very loaded, especially from

someone that you're just getting to know. Sorry if I raised your

anxiety with the use of the *S* word!! :-) I guess what I meant by

it was that I was hoping to surround myself with people who have

moved past self-defeating behavior that might impact my own ability

to achieve my goals. I hope this makes more sense... I do want to

thank you though, because your point made me examine more closely

what I mean and its made me feel comfortable enough to share one of

my challenges when it comes to food.

I might be doing really good, eating right, trying to be healthy, but

if a family member or friend or someone close to me in my life

suggests going out to eat fast food or something unhealthy, which is

a weakness of mine, I would find it almost impossible to say " not

tonight, " or " you can, but I'm going to get something healthy. " I

guess I'm describing a difficulty dealing with social pressure when

it comes to food. In addition, I don't find a lot of people around

me who are either 1) interested in getting healthy or 2) able to

avoid the pitfalls that can sabotage success. I am hoping the folks

in this group understand what I mean by " serious " now. It merely

means that I want to surround myself with people who, like me, know

what they want, know how to get there, and are *truly interested* in

getting there. I respect your interest, , in taking the time it

takes to get there. I've tried to lose weight fast, and have had

success, but have not kept it off long-term, so I think I want the

same thing you do, regardless of how long it takes. I just want to

avoid sabotage and enjoy support from the people I share this journey

with.

It seems like there might be a fine line between being naturally

slender and avoiding certain types of food altogether. Does anyone

have an opinion on the question of " if I refuse to eat certain kinds

of foods because I know that they are triggers in and of themsevles

for me personally, does that mean I am white-knuckling through this

process? " Because, for me, I think avoiding certain foods (fast food

in particular) is really important for me to be successful...

Thoughts?

Jarrod

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Jarrod -- I have great ideas about " triggers " versus eating naturally

slenderly.

I was an ALL ELIMINATION OF TRIGGERS girl for a while -- which lasted

about 3 years, but eventually I couldn't hang on to it and gained

back 50 of eighty pounds I had lost.

Since finding -- I have lost 11.5 pounds and have found several

ways I deal with " triggers " --

(1) I " box them in " -- if you've ever read Gullos " the Thin

Commandments " -- he talks about this. I've interpreted it for myself

to say that if a food makes me FEEL like I'm going to binge, or not

eat in a naturally slender way, I simply create some REASONABLE

parameters around that food.

(2) Specific to your elimnation of fast food. I would hypothesize

that " elminating fast foods " is actually NOT really eliminating a

particular FOOD (with an exception, which I'll discuss in a second),

but rather eliminating a type of cooking which you can easily

replace. For example -- I love burgers and fries, but I know that

burgers and fries from a fast food joint is not going to be as

healthy for me as burgers I cook myself, a burger from a reputable

restaurant that grills and serves with whole grains and veggies, etc.

So I may say " I eliminate fast food joints. " And then I haven't

eliminated a food (DANGER for me, causes me to want that food a

bunch), but I've said " I'll make a reasoned, better choice about that

kind of food and have it another way "

(3) The exception (for me), may be McNasty's french fries. Yep --

love em. But I " box those in " as well. I tell myself that I can have

one ANYTIME I WANT, but I must examine if I really want those or if I

am looking for something else (comfort, convenience, am overhungry so

those sound most appealing, etc.) . If, upon that examination, I

determine I really am hungry FOR THOSE, I go and get them -- a small

order. I eat them thoughtfully and with enjoyment. I may even have a

small burger with them. The key there, is portion control. I also log

it (rather than hiding the fact that I did it), and make it a PART of

my food plan. Make Sense? Your exception may be a Taco or something

else -- but " box it in " in a way you can manage. Now the irony of

this is, since I've made that decision, I've had ONE small McNasty

fry -- and haven't even thought about them until today -- which is so

new to me! And feels great!

You can create " boxing in " ways to better handle foods all around.

Like maybe " I won't eat fast food in my car " So if you do go to a

fast food joint, you're forced to go in, sit down, have a meal and

eat thoughtfully.

You may say, I won't have fast food unless I make it a special

occasion for me and a friend. We meet, we have a pig-out, we enjoy

each other's company, I think about what I really want (maybe that

's burger would taste great with a side salad or maybe if I want

the fries, I'll have a grilled chicken without the bun to go with it).

You can say " i'll only have fast food if I've had a few balanced days

before hand " and check in. Not as a REWARD (wrong mind set), but as a

balance of eating healthfully and not always eating healthfully.

Anyway " the boxing in " keeps you MINDFUL of eating -- but doesn't put

anything totally off limits. And eventually, the mindful thing may

become (I'm getting there!) second nature.

Just my thoughts, hope they help.

Ang

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thank you for making the point that you did. It's a valid point,

and

> the word " serious " probably sounds very loaded, especially from

> someone that you're just getting to know. Sorry if I raised your

> anxiety with the use of the *S* word!! :-) I guess what I meant

by

> it was that I was hoping to surround myself with people who have

> moved past self-defeating behavior that might impact my own ability

> to achieve my goals. I hope this makes more sense... I do want

to

> thank you though, because your point made me examine more closely

> what I mean and its made me feel comfortable enough to share one of

> my challenges when it comes to food.

> I might be doing really good, eating right, trying to be healthy,

but

> if a family member or friend or someone close to me in my life

> suggests going out to eat fast food or something unhealthy, which

is

> a weakness of mine, I would find it almost impossible to say " not

> tonight, " or " you can, but I'm going to get something healthy. " I

> guess I'm describing a difficulty dealing with social pressure when

> it comes to food. In addition, I don't find a lot of people around

> me who are either 1) interested in getting healthy or 2) able to

> avoid the pitfalls that can sabotage success. I am hoping the

folks

> in this group understand what I mean by " serious " now. It merely

> means that I want to surround myself with people who, like me, know

> what they want, know how to get there, and are *truly interested*

in

> getting there. I respect your interest, , in taking the time

it

> takes to get there. I've tried to lose weight fast, and have had

> success, but have not kept it off long-term, so I think I want the

> same thing you do, regardless of how long it takes. I just want to

> avoid sabotage and enjoy support from the people I share this

journey

> with.

>

> It seems like there might be a fine line between being naturally

> slender and avoiding certain types of food altogether. Does anyone

> have an opinion on the question of " if I refuse to eat certain

kinds

> of foods because I know that they are triggers in and of themsevles

> for me personally, does that mean I am white-knuckling through this

> process? " Because, for me, I think avoiding certain foods (fast

food

> in particular) is really important for me to be successful...

> Thoughts?

>

> Jarrod

>

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Ang,

thank you for this post, it was extremely informative and beneficial

to me!

I have a huge issue with completely eliminating foods too. I try to

catch myself, and remind myself that I -don't- have to eliminate

anything, just pay attention to portion control, but then my head

automatically starts nagging 'but you shouldn't have it, it's a -bad-

food' and then the guilt feelings start because I still want it so

it's a huge vicious circle.

I'm am going to be extra mindful of this and try your 'boxing in'

method, refusing to believe that -anything- is bad, but focusing more

on my behavior that is not 'bad' either but is not beneficial to my

health and well-being.

my spirituality follows the creed that 'your body is your temple, and

to harm yourself is to harm a living being'. I have been reminding

myself that when I feed my body food it doesn't need, I'm harming my

temple. I think that focusing on the boxing in methods that you

described can really help.

thanks again,

audrey

>

> Jarrod -- I have great ideas about " triggers " versus eating

naturally

> slenderly.

>

> I was an ALL ELIMINATION OF TRIGGERS girl for a while -- which

lasted

> about 3 years, but eventually I couldn't hang on to it and gained

> back 50 of eighty pounds I had lost.

>

> Since finding -- I have lost 11.5 pounds and have found

several

> ways I deal with " triggers " --

>

> (1) I " box them in " -- if you've ever read Gullos " the Thin

> Commandments " -- he talks about this. I've interpreted it for

myself

> to say that if a food makes me FEEL like I'm going to binge, or not

> eat in a naturally slender way, I simply create some REASONABLE

> parameters around that food.

>

> (2) Specific to your elimnation of fast food. I would hypothesize

> that " elminating fast foods " is actually NOT really eliminating a

> particular FOOD (with an exception, which I'll discuss in a

second),

> but rather eliminating a type of cooking which you can easily

> replace. For example -- I love burgers and fries, but I know that

> burgers and fries from a fast food joint is not going to be as

> healthy for me as burgers I cook myself, a burger from a reputable

> restaurant that grills and serves with whole grains and veggies,

etc.

> So I may say " I eliminate fast food joints. " And then I haven't

> eliminated a food (DANGER for me, causes me to want that food a

> bunch), but I've said " I'll make a reasoned, better choice about

that

> kind of food and have it another way "

>

> (3) The exception (for me), may be McNasty's french fries. Yep --

> love em. But I " box those in " as well. I tell myself that I can

have

> one ANYTIME I WANT, but I must examine if I really want those or if

I

> am looking for something else (comfort, convenience, am overhungry

so

> those sound most appealing, etc.) . If, upon that examination, I

> determine I really am hungry FOR THOSE, I go and get them -- a

small

> order. I eat them thoughtfully and with enjoyment. I may even have

a

> small burger with them. The key there, is portion control. I also

log

> it (rather than hiding the fact that I did it), and make it a PART

of

> my food plan. Make Sense? Your exception may be a Taco or something

> else -- but " box it in " in a way you can manage. Now the irony of

> this is, since I've made that decision, I've had ONE small McNasty

> fry -- and haven't even thought about them until today -- which is

so

> new to me! And feels great!

>

> You can create " boxing in " ways to better handle foods all around.

> Like maybe " I won't eat fast food in my car " So if you do go to a

> fast food joint, you're forced to go in, sit down, have a meal and

> eat thoughtfully.

>

> You may say, I won't have fast food unless I make it a special

> occasion for me and a friend. We meet, we have a pig-out, we enjoy

> each other's company, I think about what I really want (maybe that

> 's burger would taste great with a side salad or maybe if I

want

> the fries, I'll have a grilled chicken without the bun to go with

it).

>

> You can say " i'll only have fast food if I've had a few balanced

days

> before hand " and check in. Not as a REWARD (wrong mind set), but as

a

> balance of eating healthfully and not always eating healthfully.

>

> Anyway " the boxing in " keeps you MINDFUL of eating -- but doesn't

put

> anything totally off limits. And eventually, the mindful thing may

> become (I'm getting there!) second nature.

>

> Just my thoughts, hope they help.

>

> Ang

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Jarrod,

In regards to your last paragraph, I think that ridding yourself of

trigger foods is not at all white-knuckling it. In fact, in one fo

her early episodes even talks about this. She gives an example

of a client who binges on chips, and he is well aware of his problem,

yet continues to purchase bags of them. And when he stopped buying

the bags of chips, he stopped eating them! I find the same thing

works for me. I stopped buying granola (one of my binge foods) and

now when I attempt to binge, there is nothing that appeals to me in

my cupboard, so I just give up. I will admit that since I am still

trying to rid myself of the habit, I do end up eating, but it is

often fruit or somehting else not quite as calorie laden as granola.

For the fast food thing, I really suggest just keeping at that. I

haven't eaten Mc's or anything along those lines in 4 months

and I don't miss it. Every once in a while I want a burger, but I

don't even necessarily get around to it and by the next day I am

happy again. Maybe you could suggest Subway or a similar type fast

food restaurant when friends want to go out? There are also many

healthier choices in the traditional fast food rstaurants, although

that is hard to do when watching everyone else eat burgers and fries.

Kirsten

>

> Hi ,

>

> Thank you for making the point that you did. It's a valid point,

and

> the word " serious " probably sounds very loaded, especially from

> someone that you're just getting to know. Sorry if I raised your

> anxiety with the use of the *S* word!! :-) I guess what I meant

by

> it was that I was hoping to surround myself with people who have

> moved past self-defeating behavior that might impact my own ability

> to achieve my goals. I hope this makes more sense... I do want

to

> thank you though, because your point made me examine more closely

> what I mean and its made me feel comfortable enough to share one of

> my challenges when it comes to food.

> I might be doing really good, eating right, trying to be healthy,

but

> if a family member or friend or someone close to me in my life

> suggests going out to eat fast food or something unhealthy, which

is

> a weakness of mine, I would find it almost impossible to say " not

> tonight, " or " you can, but I'm going to get something healthy. " I

> guess I'm describing a difficulty dealing with social pressure when

> it comes to food. In addition, I don't find a lot of people around

> me who are either 1) interested in getting healthy or 2) able to

> avoid the pitfalls that can sabotage success. I am hoping the

folks

> in this group understand what I mean by " serious " now. It merely

> means that I want to surround myself with people who, like me, know

> what they want, know how to get there, and are *truly interested*

in

> getting there. I respect your interest, , in taking the time

it

> takes to get there. I've tried to lose weight fast, and have had

> success, but have not kept it off long-term, so I think I want the

> same thing you do, regardless of how long it takes. I just want to

> avoid sabotage and enjoy support from the people I share this

journey

> with.

>

> It seems like there might be a fine line between being naturally

> slender and avoiding certain types of food altogether. Does anyone

> have an opinion on the question of " if I refuse to eat certain

kinds

> of foods because I know that they are triggers in and of themsevles

> for me personally, does that mean I am white-knuckling through this

> process? " Because, for me, I think avoiding certain foods (fast

food

> in particular) is really important for me to be successful...

> Thoughts?

>

> Jarrod

>

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Thank you, Kirsten, for your support and thoughts on trigger foods.

I'm pretty good at saying no flat-out when offered unhealthy choices,

but if I accept thinking (well, a little bit won't hurt), that's when I

get in trouble.

I agree, also, with the healthy alternatives option when it comes to

fast food. I have successfully steered my girlfriend to Subway instead

of unhealthy Americanized Asian food a few times these last few weeks.

It's not easy, that's for sure! :-) Ahh... *sigh* we make it one

step at a time, right?

Thanks again,

Jarrod

P.S. Imagine the challenge *successfully passed by the way* when I

went to my girlfriend's house for dinner last night, and was asked

to " stop on the way and pick up something for desert... " Seriously.

She got canoli (her favorite) and I got Weight Watchers chocolate chip

sundaes... Two thumbs up!

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Congratulations on the healthy choices! It sounds like you don't give

yourself enough credit for the work you do. Keep it up!

Kirsten

>

> Thank you, Kirsten, for your support and thoughts on trigger

foods.

> I'm pretty good at saying no flat-out when offered unhealthy

choices,

> but if I accept thinking (well, a little bit won't hurt), that's

when I

> get in trouble.

> I agree, also, with the healthy alternatives option when it comes

to

> fast food. I have successfully steered my girlfriend to Subway

instead

> of unhealthy Americanized Asian food a few times these last few

weeks.

> It's not easy, that's for sure! :-) Ahh... *sigh* we make it one

> step at a time, right?

>

> Thanks again,

>

> Jarrod

>

> P.S. Imagine the challenge *successfully passed by the way* when I

> went to my girlfriend's house for dinner last night, and was asked

> to " stop on the way and pick up something for desert... "

Seriously.

> She got canoli (her favorite) and I got Weight Watchers chocolate

chip

> sundaes... Two thumbs up!

>

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>

> I am new to this group. I have been listening to for a week or

> and am behind most of you as I am only on podcast 9. I am very

> impressed with e and the information she has to share, it is what

> I have been needing for a long time.

> I am curious how long all of you have been listening to and how

> you are all doing.

> Thanks for creating a place to share!

> Chris

>

I am new to 's podcast too. I think I'm on 15? Anyway, I just love it.

I've been trying

to make some changes for awhile now, and I've lost 30 lbs so far. But I'm

starting to look

at things in a new way now, because of the things teaches. Especially

about self

correcting and a gray scale of thinking. It's so true what she says about this

being the

thing that can clinch it for you. Last night I had 2 squares of chocolate

(after I had already

had about 3 earlier in the day)... and the thought came into my head that since

I already

overdid it, I might as well just finish off the bar- but then I remembered that

it doesn't

have to be that way, that everything else I did as far as food yesterday was

great, and I

didn't eat anymore chocolate! My weight loss was stalled for awhile, but it's

going back

down again because of this new way of thinking. It's really amazing. Has

anyone tried any

of 's guided journeys that you pay extra for? I'm curious if they have

helped anyone

even more than just the podcast.

Thanks!

Karilee

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