Re: Stowasser et al, Lab. Investigation of PA Discussion

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The problem is we do not know what is a good renin Aldo response to spiroDASH. So measuring them gives us information that we don not know what to do with. I would recommend a move to eplerenone. Still not clear how to judge if you got better or not. BP and diarrhea would be good indicators I would think. I would also check urine Na and K creat at each visit and let you tell me how you are doing and show me ur BP charts. Then discuss what should be tried next. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

, I cleaned up my response for my female PCP - It probably would have been more candid if it was you! ;>)

Don't ask, don't tell is not an option because that is half of determining that MCBs are doing their job to their fullest! "BP and How PTN feels" was the answer.

Before we loose track of the original question, it was "is there any validity for checking that MCBs have done their job as suggested by Stowassar et al?"

What I don't know is what renin and aldo looked like at 3mos. 6mos, 9mos and today! If it remained unchanged could I presume excess aldosterone (this path opens a new question - since BP is good do I hold steady w/meds or increase meds?) If I increase spiro this opens another new question, since anything above 25mg bid causes cronic dirrhea so do I change to Eplerone or proceed to AVS?"

Who told you doctoring was going to be easy?

I have an opinon, believe it or not, but want to see what others say first!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

> > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

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Just saying. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Whatchutalkingbout! The surgeon I talked with normally does gastric bypass laporoscopic surgery, he thought I was small! Maybe he could do a 2for! (64 is only old by previous stds.!)

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> > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

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Still need Una and K to interpret these. K better and BP better. So making progress. Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I have 2 reports that have all 3 numbers:

2/22/2007 R=0.1, A=5, K=3.6

7/08/2010 R=0.51, A=15, K=4.6 (On 25mg Spiro for ~1mo)

Since I have never seen renin high can you explain that?

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

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Renin and K are not very well related. It is the Aldo Na intake and K intake and MCB that determines the K situation.Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

I have 2 reports that haqve all 3 numbers:

2/22/2007 R=0.1, A=5, K=3.6

7/08/2010 R=0.51, A=15, K=4.6

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> > > > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

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Looks like Dr Grim is saying close to the same thing I am. Why test for

something that gives you information you don't know what to do with.

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> > > > > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19,

DM2,

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> > > > > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > > > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and

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Oh the question is definately NOT the Now. It's looking at the next 40 years,

I'll probably have more questions as I get closer to 105!

I use DASH as a tool and measure BP, BS and HR to see how I'm doing. From daily

measuring I know how those are trending and DASH accordingly. What I don't know

is how that tumor is doing! I don't even know if it is doing anything! Do they

do anything besides produce excess aldosterone?

How do I respond to the Oncologist 5-10 years from now when he asks. " Why didn't

you take care of it back in 2010 when it was only 12mm? " " It's now 5cm and I

can't do anything, go home and get.... " Will " Dr. Grim said I only needed to

Pee be enough? "

In your experience it has worked very well but you had a very controlled

situation, hell we can't even find a doctor that knows how to take a proper BP!

Remind me of the status of CT-SCAN, MRI and ultra-sound 35 years ago!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have started a new thread because this review article raised a

> > > > > bunch of questions for me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They recommend rescanning tumors not removed be scanned at 6mos,

> > > > > 12mos and then every 3-5yrs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This appears to be a choice between rediation or a potential

> > > > > growing tumor hence cancer maybe. ??

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> > > > > > > I have heard suggestions that rescanning is " not necessary " , how

> > > > > do you know all is well?

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> > > > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

> > > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

> > > > > MG.

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I have the BP, BS and HR graphs sitting right here in recycle since I prepared

them a week early for PCP, just don't know where to send them. I have to mail

since I haven't figured out how to capture and send out of MyHealtheVet.

I'm really not looking for what to try next re. PA. I'm now looking for

confirmation that heart, kidneys and lungs are well or at least improving! I am

planning to switch to eplerenone if PCP doesn't have too much of a fit! I am

considering transferring even on the dose and seeing what happens to daily

stats. If/when numbers go up try more stringent DASHing and increase epler only

as needed. I just need to convince her that I know enough to have a little

lattitude. (Otherwise she RX's at 50mg bid and it just might last a little

longer!)

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > > > > I have started a new thread because this review article raised a

> > > > > > bunch of questions for me.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > They recommend rescanning tumors not removed be scanned at 6mos,

> > > > > > 12mos and then every 3-5yrs.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > This appears to be a choice between rediation or a potential

> > > > > > growing tumor hence cancer maybe. ??

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > I have heard suggestions that rescanning is " not necessary " , how

> > > > > > do you know all is well?

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> > > > > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

> > > > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

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There are free programs that will print to PDF file I use bullzip. can always

print out what you have and scan them to PDF.

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> > > > > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone

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Hi ,Enjoy life as it gets! You are alive, your school sweetheart is dead, not even your wife :-) You didn't have sex for 5 years, because you ED. So what! Half of world doesn't have sex for much longer and they even don't have ED and some of them much younger :-) There are still many things in your life that you can enjoy - say a little, good weather or bad weather, reading, movies, good music, good food (unsalted) and so on and so on! Your BP is normal! Not so many of our age have it normal, BTW! Sometimes we feel better, sometimes we feel worse, and we have to live with that! We have to watch our diet, and our medications, and our BP and many other things, but we are alive! This is much more

important! And BTW, you do an excellent job on this site and you help a lot of us! At least me! I appreciate that a lot and I wish you to be alive as long as possible! We need you!Natalia To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 1:18 PMSubject: Re:

Stowasser et al, Lab. Investigation of PA Discussion

Sorry if you misunderstood, I was intending to make NO implication of cause/effect. I was just describing SXs when the doctor asked how I was feeling since that and BP was how to determine if there is excess aldosterone. Would you assume co-morbid conditions were related to PA? How many PTN have you seen DXed with COPD on full time oxygen resolve? (My understanding there is usually either an operation or a box involved but I am only aware of one so I can say it happens 100% of the time!)

Let me restate. I walk into your office and my BP is 123/72 and you ask, "How do you feel"? I respond, "My balls ache, my back aches, I can't breathe, I can't sleep, they say I have COPD and my first girlfriend just died from it at age 62 and I haven't had sex in five years because something is causing ED!" "You ask how I feel, I feel like shit, I might be better off dead!)

Your DX? Is my renin level w/i range? (Aldosterone "should" be okay, it has never been "out of range", remember I was DXed w/low renin HTN!)

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > I have started a new thread because this review article raised a

> > > bunch of questions for me.

> > > > >

> > > > > They recommend rescanning tumors not removed be scanned at 6mos,

> > > 12mos and then every 3-5yrs.

> > > > >

> > > > > This appears to be a choice between rediation or a potential

> > > growing tumor hence cancer maybe. ??

> > > > >

> > > > > I have heard suggestions that rescanning is "not necessary", how

> > > do you know all is well?

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> > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

> > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > and PTSD.

> > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

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Natalia, Sorry I misled you so I appreciate your message since it gives me a

chance to clear things up. First you need to look up the word " Rhetoric "

because I don't know how it translates to Russian.

I was answering as if it was 2 years prior, when I felt my lowest! I mentioned

my childhood sweatheart because as they say, you " never forget your first love " .

My wife and I were both close to her family, in fact my wife's twin brother used

to date her sister and we double dated! Her mother even hosted a baby shower

when we were expecting our first child! She was the only person I knew with COPD

so when I was DXed with it, it was even more traumatic! BTW,I now consider that

was a " little white lie " by my doctor because my " magic number " had dropped to

65% and the cutoff is 70% it was a good excuse for requiring Oxygen! If she had

looked a little further she would have learned to spell LVH and saved the

government > $6,000! (Can you believe it? A doctor misDXed a PTN, how can it

be? MORE RHETORIC!)

I feel a little different than you. I feel good some of the time and excellent

the rest of the time! My only concern is that I'll have enough money to bail me

out of jail if I feel too good!

Are we married? You have the same attitude regarding sex as my wife! (Of

course she is older than me too!) Where did the spark go, we've only been

married 43 years!)

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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> > > > > > I have started a new thread because this review article raised a

> > > > bunch of questions for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They recommend rescanning tumors not removed be scanned at 6mos,

> > > > 12mos and then every 3-5yrs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This appears to be a choice between rediation or a potential

> > > > growing tumor hence cancer maybe. ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have heard suggestions that rescanning is " not necessary " , how

> > > > do you know all is well?

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> > > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

> > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

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I have two for you. I have a film in my left eye that doctors keep a close

watch of. (It causes distortion and vision in that eye ranges from 20/15 to

20/50!That's why I sometimes hit the wrong key!)

I went in for a followup test and the technician said she was only testing that

eye and needed to cover my other eye. She then promptly put a piece of tape on

my LEFT eye! I ofcourse told her she was making it more difficult!

After my TIA in 2002 they did an ultrasound of the arteries in my neck, the

results: " There is no sign of a tumor in PTNs Uterus!) I sure must have a wierd

looking neck!

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank

pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG,

81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

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Thank you, ! Now I feel much better both about you and about myself :-)No, I am not married, but I was for a long bitter time. To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:38 AMSubject: Re: Stowasser et al, Lab. Investigation of PA

Discussion

Natalia, Sorry I misled you so I appreciate your message since it gives me a chance to clear things up. First you need to look up the word "Rhetoric" because I don't know how it translates to Russian.

I was answering as if it was 2 years prior, when I felt my lowest! I mentioned my childhood sweatheart because as they say, you "never forget your first love". My wife and I were both close to her family, in fact my wife's twin brother used to date her sister and we double dated! Her mother even hosted a baby shower when we were expecting our first child! She was the only person I knew with COPD so when I was DXed with it, it was even more traumatic! BTW,I now consider that was a "little white lie" by my doctor because my "magic number" had dropped to 65% and the cutoff is 70% it was a good excuse for requiring Oxygen! If she had looked a little further she would have learned to spell LVH and saved the government > $6,000! (Can you believe it? A doctor misDXed a PTN, how can it be? MORE RHETORIC!)

I feel a little different than you. I feel good some of the time and excellent the rest of the time! My only concern is that I'll have enough money to bail me out of jail if I feel too good!

Are we married? You have the same attitude regarding sex as my wife! (Of course she is older than me too!) Where did the spark go, we've only been married 43 years!)

- 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60

Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.

Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have started a new thread because this review article raised a

> > > > bunch of questions for me.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > They recommend rescanning tumors not removed be scanned at 6mos,

> > > > 12mos and then every 3-5yrs.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This appears to be a choice between rediation or a potential

> > > > growing tumor hence cancer maybe. ??

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have heard suggestions that rescanning is "not necessary", how

> > > > do you know all is well?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

> > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

> > > > MG.

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Your story is funny . I have been married to for 21 years but she has an identical twin sister who is married to Dan who my mom used to babysit when we were in elementary and junior HS and who I went to church with. He and I were even tent mates at summer camp as young teens! But they met completely different from us (we were married first) and Dan and I didn't grow up with the twins who are 2 years younger than us or know them growing up. So you can imagine my surprise when the other twin came walking in with her new "boyfirend" one day - a guy who I had known most of my life. We did grow up only a mile down the road from the twins - but that was Southern California, Orange County to be exact, the concrete jungle, and there were probably 6 elementary schools, 3 high schools, and a half million people

between us.

Even funnier, I met at Big Bear Mountain in the Snow on New years day - a monday (even though at that time I literally lived 1 single city block from her in Anaheim) and our first real date was to Newport Beach in shorts the very next Friday! Only in Southern Cal......... I met her with her identical twin sister that New Years Day and thought was the baby sister of - her twin. The guys I was with had met them before, but they couldn't tell them apart, and couldn't believe I didn't see them as exact. I saw my wife different from day one....must have been destiny.

7 kids later it damn well better be destiny ......... or insanity. But she's cute and I love her so I'd take either one......actually I think I took both. Maybe we were destined to be insane together I guess.

Subject: Re: Re: Stowasser et al, Lab. Investigation of PA DiscussionTo: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Date: Saturday, October 22, 2011, 4:04 PM

Thank you, ! Now I feel much better both about you and about myself :-)

No, I am not married, but I was for a long bitter time.

To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:38 AMSubject: Re: Stowasser et al, Lab. Investigation of PA Discussion

Natalia, Sorry I misled you so I appreciate your message since it gives me a chance to clear things up. First you need to look up the word "Rhetoric" because I don't know how it translates to Russian.I was answering as if it was 2 years prior, when I felt my lowest! I mentioned my childhood sweatheart because as they say, you "never forget your first love". My wife and I were both close to her family, in fact my wife's twin brother used to date her sister and we double dated! Her mother even hosted a baby shower when we were expecting our first child! She was the only person I knew with COPD so when I was DXed with it, it was even more traumatic! BTW,I now consider that was a "little white lie" by my doctor because my "magic number" had dropped to 65% and the cutoff is 70% it was a good excuse for requiring Oxygen! If she had looked a little further she would have learned to spell LVH and saved the government > $6,000! (Can you believe

it? A doctor misDXed a PTN, how can it be? MORE RHETORIC!)I feel a little different than you. I feel good some of the time and excellent the rest of the time! My only concern is that I'll have enough money to bail me out of jail if I feel too good!Are we married? You have the same attitude regarding sex as my wife! (Of course she is older than me too!) Where did the spark go, we've only been married 43 years!) - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current BP(last week ave): 131/76 HR 60Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, and PTSD.Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 MG. > > > > > >> > > > > > I have started a new thread because this review article raised a > > > > bunch of questions for me.> > > > > >> > > > > > They recommend rescanning tumors not removed be scanned at 6mos, > > > > 12mos and then every 3-5yrs.> > > > > >> > > > > > This appears to be a choice between

rediation or a potential > > > > growing tumor hence cancer maybe. ??> > > > > >> > > > > > I have heard suggestions that rescanning is "not necessary", how > > > > do you know all is well?> > > > > >> > > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with > > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73> > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2, > > > > and PTSD.> > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol > > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50 > > > > MG.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >>

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IMHO, for you it was destiny, for her it was INSANITY! BTW, Rose and Russ are

NOT identical!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have started a new thread because this review article raised a

> > > > > bunch of questions for me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > They recommend rescanning tumors not removed be scanned at 6mos,

> > > > > 12mos and then every 3-5yrs.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This appears to be a choice between rediation or a potential

> > > > > growing tumor hence cancer maybe. ??

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have heard suggestions that rescanning is " not necessary " , how

> > > > > do you know all is well?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > - 65 yo super ob. male - 12mm X 13mm rt. a.adnoma with

> > > > > previous rt. flank pain. Treating with Meds. And DASH. . Current

> > > > > BP(last week ave): 125/73

> > > > > > > Other Issues/Opportunities: OSA w Bi-Pap settings 13/19, DM2,

> > > > > and PTSD.

> > > > > > > Meds: Duloxetine hcl 80 MG, Mirtazapine 7.5 MG, Metoprolol

> > > > > Tartrate 200 MG, 81mg asprin, Metformin 2000MG and Spironolactone 50

> > > > > MG.

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