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You could make it in kit form with very thin pine so it would be cheap to ship. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

CFL light bulbs, an environmental wet dream, are putting mercury into the ground water daily. Pine boxes cannot be bought, at least the last time I looked. I've seriously thought of going into the pine box business. Honestly! You can get free shipping and a good price on coffins online if you plan ahead and have somewhere to store it. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimThe plane pine box seems like the best solution to me. Cremation gets mercury into the air from fillings and what was stored in the body. CE Grim MD It will only get worse. Wait til they start deciding that even 10years to live with a cancer dx isn't good enough to merit some treatments or that being buried in a coffin isn't environmentally friendly anymore and that everyone has to cremated - except they will make an exception for Muslims and ignore Christians wishes to avoid church and state involvement.Subject: RE: Re: Neperologist Appt. UpdateTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 1:49 PM

Health care via government committee? Nice! Doctors are becoming nothing more than "fill in the box" robots. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of You are partially right in the fact that they have a limited supply in stock if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a review process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or atleast was non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner, was denied the first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because they thought I wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would take care of the pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o some commitee and they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the "new" in-home care program and is in charge of it!).

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Ah but they have gotten good old reliable mercury manometers out of the place where they same lives. The dr's office. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

CFL light bulbs, an environmental wet dream, are putting mercury into the ground water daily. Pine boxes cannot be bought, at least the last time I looked. I've seriously thought of going into the pine box business. Honestly! You can get free shipping and a good price on coffins online if you plan ahead and have somewhere to store it. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimThe plane pine box seems like the best solution to me. Cremation gets mercury into the air from fillings and what was stored in the body. CE Grim MD It will only get worse. Wait til they start deciding that even 10years to live with a cancer dx isn't good enough to merit some treatments or that being buried in a coffin isn't environmentally friendly anymore and that everyone has to cremated - except they will make an exception for Muslims and ignore Christians wishes to avoid church and state involvement.Subject: RE: Re: Neperologist Appt. UpdateTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 1:49 PM

Health care via government committee? Nice! Doctors are becoming nothing more than "fill in the box" robots. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of You are partially right in the fact that they have a limited supply in stock if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a review process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or atleast was non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner, was denied the first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because they thought I wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would take care of the pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o some commitee and they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the "new" in-home care program and is in charge of it!).

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Believe that can still be bought or could be a few years ago. They do have to be

put in the cement vault. Most cement vaults have a 5 to 10 year warranty not to

leak. Not sure how you would know if they leaked.

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> You are partially right in the fact that they have a limited supply in stock

> if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a

> review process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or

> atleast was non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner,

> was denied the first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because

> they thought I wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would

> take care of the pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o

> some commitee and they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the " new "

> in-home care program and is in charge of it!)

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Oh but the light bulbs last so much longer to save the planet.....oh wait, they did at first, but I seem to be changing them just as much as the other kind now. Uhm.....the "green" people would never be dishonest or just about money would they as it's about the planet. Al Gore becoming a billionaire with a private jet was just a fluke.....ughhh

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Believe that can still be bought or could be a few years ago. They do have to be put in the cement vault. Most cement vaults have a 5 to 10 year warranty not to leak. Not sure how you would know if they leaked.> > > Subject: RE: Re: Neperologist Appt. Update> To: hyperaldosteronism > Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 1:49 PM> > Health care via government committee? Nice! Doctors are becoming nothing> more than "fill in the box" robots.> > Val> > From: hyperaldosteronism > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of > You are partially right in the fact that they have a limited supply in stock> if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a> review process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or> atleast was non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner,> was denied the first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because> they thought I wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would> take care of the pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o> some

commitee and they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the "new"> in-home care program and is in charge of it!)> .> Web Bug from> http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=7299303/grpspId=1705132763/msgId=> 37921/stime=1320680452/nc1=5191951/nc2=5191947/nc3=3848640> <http://www.mailscanner.tv/1x1spacer.gif>>

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Don't make it too thin, some of us might fall thru the bottom!

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if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a review

process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or atleast was

non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner, was denied the

first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because they thought I

wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would take care of the

pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o some commitee and

they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the " new " in-home care program and is

in charge of it!)

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There is a move to just put them in the ground and dust to dust via the worms. CE Grim MD Believe that can still be bought or could be a few years ago. They do have to be put in the cement vault. Most cement vaults have a 5 to 10 year warranty not to leak. Not sure how you would know if they leaked. > > > Subject: RE: Re: Neperologist Appt. Update > To: hyperaldosteronism > Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 1:49 PM > > Health care via government committee? Nice! Doctors are becoming nothing > more than "fill in the box" robots. > > Val > > From: hyperaldosteronism > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of > You are partially right in the fact that they have a limited supply in stock > if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a > review process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or > atleast was non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner, > was denied the first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because > they thought I wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would > take care of the pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o > some commitee and they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the "new" > in-home care program and is in charge of it!) > . > Web Bug from > http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=7299303/grpspId=1705132763/msgId= > 37921/stime=1320680452/nc1=5191951/nc2=5191947/nc3=3848640 > <http://www.mailscanner.tv/1x1spacer.gif> >

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I have started writing the date installed on the light bulb. CE Grim MD Oh but the light bulbs last so much longer to save the planet.....oh wait, they did at first, but I seem to be changing them just as much as the other kind now. Uhm.....the "green" people would never be dishonest or just about money would they as it's about the planet. Al Gore becoming a billionaire with a private jet was just a fluke.....ughhh Subject: Re: MercuryTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Tuesday, November 8, 2011, 7:30 AM Believe that can still be bought or could be a few years ago. They do have to be put in the cement vault. Most cement vaults have a 5 to 10 year warranty not to leak. Not sure how you would know if they leaked.> > > Subject: RE: Re: Neperologist Appt. Update> To: hyperaldosteronism > Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 1:49 PM> > Health care via government committee? Nice! Doctors are becoming nothing> more than "fill in the box" robots.> > Val> > From: hyperaldosteronism > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of > You are partially right in the fact that they have a limited supply in stock> if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a> review process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or> atleast was non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner,> was denied the first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because> they thought I wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would> take care of the pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o> some commitee and they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the "new"> in-home care program and is in charge of it!)> .> Web Bug from> http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97359714/grpId=7299303/grpspId=1705132763/msgId=> 37921/stime=1320680452/nc1=5191951/nc2=5191947/nc3=3848640> <http://www.mailscanner.tv/1x1spacer.gif>>

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CFLs burn out quickly if they are not left on at least 15 minutes.  That means they are worthless for places like closets.  I had to remove CFLs from my house; they gave me terrible shakes.  First I took them out in my office and could feel a difference but left them in the kitchen as a trial.  Every time I tried to cook, I got the shakes and cut myself.  So now, they're gone out of the house, period.   I have some neurological damage from Lyme and don't know if I will ever be able to tolerate the CFL- emitted frequency.  I'm stashing real light bulbs and will put any remaining balance in my will. :)  Sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Bingham Oh but the light bulbs last so much longer to save the planet.....oh wait, they did at first, but I seem to be changing them just as much as the other kind now. Uhm.....the " green " people would never be dishonest or just about money would they as it's about the planet. Al Gore becoming a billionaire with a private jet was just a fluke.....ughhh

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In early 90-ties in ruined Soviet Union people used big plastic bags instead. It also worked fine. Val, consider all ideas :-) To: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 12:04 AMSubject: Re:

Mercury

You could make it in kit form with very thin pine so it would be cheap to ship. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

CFL light bulbs, an environmental wet dream, are putting mercury into the ground water daily. Pine boxes cannot be bought, at least the last time I looked. I've seriously thought of going into the pine box business. Honestly! You can get free shipping and a good price on coffins online if you plan ahead and have somewhere to store it. Val

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence GrimThe plane pine box seems like the best solution to me. Cremation gets mercury into the air from fillings and what was stored in the body. CE Grim MDOn Nov 7, 2011, at 2:45 PM,

Bingham wrote: It will only get worse. Wait til they start deciding that even 10years to live with a cancer dx isn't good enough to merit some treatments or that being buried in a coffin isn't environmentally friendly anymore and that everyone has to cremated - except they will make an exception for Muslims and ignore Christians wishes to avoid church and state involvement.Subject: RE: Re: Neperologist Appt. UpdateTo: hyperaldosteronism Date: Monday, November 7, 2011, 1:49 PM

Health care via government committee? Nice! Doctors are becoming nothing more than "fill in the box" robots. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of You are partially right in the fact that they have a limited supply in stock if any. The other side as I understand it is that an RX has to go thru a review process or can only be RXed by certain doctors. Cymbalta is or atleast was non-formulary when I was RXed. My therapist, a Nurse Practioner, was denied the first time because the wanted me off the narcotics because they thought I wouldn't need them. I refused unless I KNEW Cymbalta would take care of the pain. The NP, Barbra Bonney, agreed with me and took it t o some commitee and they reversed the decision. (Barbra formed the "new" in-home care program and is in charge of it!).

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Val,Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them?Many thanks,Natalia To:

hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:20 PMSubject: RE: Re: Mercury

CFLs burn out quickly if they are not left on at least 15 minutes. That means they are worthless for places like closets. I had to remove CFLs from my house; they gave me terrible shakes. First I took them out in my office and could feel a difference but left them in the kitchen as a trial. Every time I tried to cook, I got the shakes and cut myself. So now, they're gone out of the house, period. I have some neurological damage from Lyme and don't know if I will ever be able to tolerate the CFL- emitted frequency. I'm stashing real light bulbs and will put any remaining balance in my will. :) Sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Bingham Oh but the light bulbs last so much longer to save the planet.....oh wait, they did at first, but I seem to be changing them just as much as the other kind now. Uhm.....the "green" people

would never be dishonest or just about money would they as it's about the planet. Al Gore becoming a billionaire with a private jet was just a fluke.....ughhh

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Just saw some at hardware store last night. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Val,Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them?Many thanks,Natalia To:

hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:20 PMSubject: RE: Re: Mercury

CFLs burn out quickly if they are not left on at least 15 minutes. That means they are worthless for places like closets. I had to remove CFLs from my house; they gave me terrible shakes. First I took them out in my office and could feel a difference but left them in the kitchen as a trial. Every time I tried to cook, I got the shakes and cut myself. So now, they're gone out of the house, period. I have some neurological damage from Lyme and don't know if I will ever be able to tolerate the CFL- emitted frequency. I'm stashing real light bulbs and will put any remaining balance in my will. :) Sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Bingham Oh but the light bulbs last so much longer to save the planet.....oh wait, they did at first, but I seem to be changing them just as much as the other kind now. Uhm.....the "green" people

would never be dishonest or just about money would they as it's about the planet. Al Gore becoming a billionaire with a private jet was just a fluke.....ughhh

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Thank you, Dr. Grim. Now I know how to spend my Social Security:-) To: "hyperaldosteronism " <hyperaldosteronism >Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 1:13 PMSubject: Re: Re: Mercury

Just saw some at hardware store last night. May your pressure be low!CE Grim MS, MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertension

Val,Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them?Many thanks,Natalia To:

hyperaldosteronism Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 4:20 PMSubject: RE: Re: Mercury

CFLs burn out quickly if they are not left on at least 15 minutes. That means they are worthless for places like closets. I had to remove CFLs from my house; they gave me terrible shakes. First I took them out in my office and could feel a difference but left them in the kitchen as a trial. Every time I tried to cook, I got the shakes and cut myself. So now, they're gone out of the house, period. I have some neurological damage from Lyme and don't know if I will ever be able to tolerate the CFL- emitted frequency. I'm stashing real light bulbs and will put any remaining balance in my will. :) Sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently

closed. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Bingham Oh but the light

bulbs last so much longer to save the planet.....oh wait, they did at first, but I seem to be changing them just as much as the other kind now. Uhm.....the "green" people

would never be dishonest or just about money would they as it's about the planet. Al Gore becoming a billionaire with a private jet was just a fluke.....ughhh

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Natalia,100w bulbs will be illegal beginning on 1/1/2012.  Thereafter, others will become illegal once by one.  There will be many light bulb criminals, especially if any state passes an INTRAstate light bulb law.  Again, sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed.  Val Val, Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them? Many thanks, Natalia

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And the company making the new lightbulbs is only in China. So put a bunch of Americans out of work, make them pay more for a new product, and fix the product so it lasts only as long as the one it replaces though it was touted otherwise.....but at least we can have peace of mind that were saving the planet because the Chinese have impeccable standards and only manufacture things the global warming save the planet way (ooops I mean "climate change" )! ....and because mercury is more safe for people and the planet than just a glass bulb is. Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from Sprint

Natalia,100w bulbs will be illegal beginning on 1/1/2012. Thereafter, others will become illegal once by one. There will be many light bulb criminals, especially if any state passes an INTRAstate light bulb law. Again, sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed. Val Val, Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them? Many thanks, Natalia

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Thank you very much, Val. How about special types of bulbs like candles, lighting down and for bathroom stands - will they manufacture them? Many thanks,Natalia To: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 2:59 PMSubject: RE: Re: Mercury

Natalia,100w bulbs will be illegal beginning on 1/1/2012. Thereafter, others will become illegal once by one. There will be many light bulb criminals, especially if any state passes an INTRAstate light bulb law. Again, sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed. Val Val, Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them? Many thanks, Natalia

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I don't know, Natalia.  My understanding is that all incandescent bulbs will gradually become illegal.  100 watt will be illegal beginning 1/1/2012.  I bought 100 bulbs yesterday. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva Thank you very much, Val. How about special types of bulbs like candles, lighting down and for bathroom stands - will they manufacture them? Many thanks, Natalia Natalia,100w bulbs will be illegal beginning on 1/1/2012. Thereafter, others will become illegal once by one. There will be many light bulb criminals, especially if any state passes an INTRAstate light bulb law. Again, sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed. Val Val, Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them? Many thanks, Natalia

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Many thanks, Val. Going to buy. NataliaTo: hyperaldosteronism Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2011 12:30 PMSubject: RE: Re: Mercury

I don't know, Natalia. My understanding is that all incandescent bulbs will gradually become illegal. 100 watt will be illegal beginning 1/1/2012. I bought 100 bulbs yesterday. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Natalia Kamneva Thank you very much, Val. How about special types of bulbs like candles, lighting down and for bathroom stands - will they manufacture them? Many thanks, Natalia Natalia,100w bulbs will be illegal beginning on 1/1/2012. Thereafter, others will become illegal once by one. There will be many light bulb criminals, especially if any state passes an INTRAstate light bulb law. Again, sadly, the last remaining American light bulb factory recently closed. Val Val, Can you, please, put me as a heir for your bulbs? I didn't stash them and I feel

terrible about that. On a serious note, is it still possible to buy them? Many thanks, Natalia

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I think that 25 watts or less will still be made.

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From Wikipedia

Federal legislation

In December 2007, many of these state efforts became moot when the federal

government enacted the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007, which

requires all general-purpose light bulbs that produce 310–2600 lumens of

light[33] be 30% more energy efficient (similar to current halogen lamps) than

then-current incandescent bulbs by 2012 to 2014. The efficiency standards will

start with 100-watt bulbs in January 2012 and end with 40-watt bulbs in January

2014.

Light bulbs outside of this range are exempt from the restrictions. Also exempt

are several classes of specialty lights, including appliance lamps, rough

service bulbs, 3-way, colored lamps, stage lighting, and plant lights.

By 2020, a second tier of restrictions would become effective, which requires

all general-purpose bulbs to produce at least 45 lumens per watt (similar to

current CFLs). Exemptions from the Act include reflector flood, 3-way,

candelabra, colored, and other specialty bulbs.

In 2011, Rep. Joe Barton of Texas and 14 other Republicans joined to introduce

the Better Use of Light Bulbs Act or BULB Act (H.R. 91), which would have

repealed Subtitle B of Title III of the Energy Independence and Security Act of

2007. Barton was opposed to regulation, while Rep. Burgess pointed to

jobs purportedly lost to China and voiced a fear of mercury problems resulting

from CFL use.[35] On July 12, 2011, H.R. 2417 failed to pass by the required

two-thirds majority in the U.S. House.

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