Guest guest Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Steve,That is an incredible site - from it's "home" page"Introduction: The Selfish Meme Dawkins, Professor of Biology at Oxford University, is the best-selling author of many scientific books, such as "The Selfish Gene" and "The Blind Watchmaker". Dawkins discovered that in addition to the original biological evolution, there is a new process nowadays, and that is the evolution of ideas. According to him, ideas replicate themselves in our minds, like the genes replicate themselves inside our body. He calls the ideas Memes (Meme). This is an abbreviation of the word Memory, and the term Meme was chosen also because it sounds similar to "Gene". Dawkins claims that there is resemblance between cultural transmission and genetic replication. The human ideas spread themselves from brain to brain. Dawkins stresses that the new process (the natural selection process of the "Memes") is very fast relatively to the original genes evolution. We constantly invent many new ideas, and when they are accepted, they quickly push aside previous ideas. Dawkins notes that the fact that ancient Memes survived unchanged for thousands of years until today is an evidence that these ideas have "high survival value". This expression originated from the science of genetics, and its original meaning is: the higher is the importance of the gene, the smaller is the chance that a new mutation will occur in it. Dawkins asserts that this genetic rule is valid also in the new case of the Memetic evolution. Is it possible that the high survival value of the (mythical) ideas appearing in the Bible is derived from their ability to multiply threefold the (natural) reproduction rate of their carriers (us)?The first part, "The price of faith", is about mortal diseases, caused by believes we conceive as biological facts. These beliefs are causing our body a continuous damage, often developing into a chronic illness and mistakenly conceived as a sort of "natural physical deterioration". The reason for this unfortunate phenomenon: our ideas are based on myths and are coded using the abstract language. Sometimes it is very difficult to find the differences between cultural beliefs and the truth.In the following chapters we shall reveal together a small part of this surprising issue of internal diseases caused by faith, and discover the clear influence of the "Memes" (cultural codes) upon the health of the gene carriers (human beings).How about THIS as an attack on faith - "internal diseases caused by faith". Wow - amazing the depth of the BS here…..Phew - off to pray my "disease causing" rosary….. From: koob_8@...To: notify-dg-nfpprofessionals Subject: OT: Nuns DiseaseDate: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:12:08 -0500 Aha, then the nuns will be able to level the breast cancer playing field and possibly even reclaim breast cancer as "the Nuns Disease". See: The Nuns Disease--http://www.memeem.com/the_price_of_faith/part5.shtml If we will examine the prevalence of breast cancer about a hundred years ago and before, we will find that in those times breast cancer was considered a rare disease affecting nuns. For this reason this malignant and mysterious disease was called "The nuns Disease". Today the data is different; four women with breast cancer are detected every day in Israel, which is about fifteen thousand new patients in our country every year, one out of eight women.If we examine the statistics of breast cancer in Israel we will see that women of western origin are more affected than women of eastern origin. The reason for this phenomenon is known and is due to their slightly different behaviors: the average woman of eastern origin gets married at a younger age than the average Ashkenazi woman, and has more children. The differences in occurrence among the women populations led Israeli researchers to look for a possible genetic disorder, hidden in the DNA of Ashkenazi women. The researchers discovered a genetic Ashkenazi sensitivity for developing carcinogenic mutations in the breast. But those genes, (BRCA1, BRCA2), which were identified as stimulating the development of breast cancer, were found only in 15% of the patients in Israel. In other words, the remaining eighty five percent of breast cancer patients are women with a different genetic makeup.1The genetic research shows that the defect we are looking for is not in the cells' DNA. This is a "Memetic" confusion disrupting our medical understanding, stemming from basic misunderstanding of the menstrual process. The belief that menstruation is healthy and is necessary for women's health, is an essential obstacle that interferes with understanding the relation between menstruation reoccurring for years, and the appearance of breast cancer.To prove the principal assertion, that this is a thinking "bug" and not a physical problem stemming from a genetic disorder, we shall be assisted again with the bleak data published by the NCI (The National American Institute for Cancer Research). In 1997 the NCI announced that a new risk group was identified in the United States, other than the original group of nuns. In this case too it is a small and unique group of women which is much more affected by breast cancer. This is not a homogenous genetic group, but women who have chosen to live their lives in a way that is different than the way accepted in the western society. The new victims are middle class American women that are "Lesbians".About a third of the members of the unisexual community will get breast cancer. The percentage of these cancer patients is three times higher than the regular expected rate of the entire American women population. Evangelistic preachers like to use this data to prove that there is a direct relationship between breaking the Christian-sexual moral laws and a "Justified divine punishment". If we ignore the religious-moral argument, we can single out of the lesbian distress the real cause of breast cancer. The lesbians are protected against unplanned pregnancy; therefore they do not use the pill. They don't have many children; the average is usually one child for one couple of women. It can be observed that this way of living exposes their bodies to many menstruation cycles. From this data it can be concluded that the hard impact on the lesbian community indicated a relationship of cause and result, which exists between regular menstruation and breast cancer outbreak.Professor Wynne- is a Canadian biologist, who offers an explanation for the current epidemic of breast cancer. According to her, a rare phenomenon such as the development of cancer does not occur during the regular cell mitosis. It takes a lot of cell divisions for a carcinogenic mutation to appear. indicates two known factors, raising the risk for the formation of cancer cells in the breast. The first factor is the age in which the woman's pubescence began. An early pubescence increases the risk for breast cancer. The second risk factor is the woman's age at the time of her first pregnancy. According to , the recurring secretion of estrogen every month, starting at adolescence, affects the undifferentiated immature cells in the breast, causing them to divide repeatedly without maturing. Breast cells mature only during the first pregnancy. suggests that the recurring division of immature breast cells, occurring between pubescence and the first pregnancy, is the cause of the appearance of the cancer mutation. 2According to it might be possible to create "vaccine" for breast cancer. She estimates that if we will induce an early maturation of breast cells (at the start of women's pubescence) the special conditions causing cancer to develop in the breast tissues today, will be abolished. 1 - From the study of Prof. Wynne- " Breast cancer etiology from an evolutionary biology perspective" (2000) . Prof. Wynne- research website : http://biology.queensu.ca/~wynneedw/Breast_Cancer.htmlAnother article regarding this theory is in the book: "Evolutionary Medicine", Oxford University Press (1999) 2 - The high percentage of patients among the women who carry the abnormal genes indicates that there genes are more sensitive to menstruation According to 2004 U.S. Census Bureau data, the proportion of childless women aged between 15 and 44 was 44.6 percent,. Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 14:41:02 +0000From: nfpprofessionals To: nfpprofessionals Subject: Digest Number 1838 Natural Family Planning Messages In This Digest (2 Messages) 1. Lancet article on Pill for nuns From: Kippley 2. NYTimes.com: Thousands Sterilized, a State Weighs Restitution From: hannaklaus@... View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1. Lancet article on Pill for nuns Posted by: " Kippley" jfkippley@... jfkippley Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:32 am (PST) I have read only a summary, but I thought the List members might be interested in a Dec 8 article in the Lancet arguing that nuns should take the Pill for health reasons. And of course, the same would apply to any chaste woman. Some of you might be hearing about it from your confreres. K. http://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736%2811%2961746-7/fulltext Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (1) 2. NYTimes.com: Thousands Sterilized, a State Weighs Restitution Posted by: "hannaklaus@..." hannaklaus@... hklaus0127 Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:00 pm (PST) This page was sent to you by: hannaklausearthlink (DOT) net.What price fertility!U.S. | December 10, 2011Thousands Sterilized, a State Weighs RestitutionBy KIM SEVERSONA task force is calculating North Carolina's obligation to the estimated 7,600 victims of its eugenics program from 1933 to 1977, many of them poor and uneducated.http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/10/us/redress-weighed-for-forced-sterilizations-in-north-carolina.html?emc=eta1----------------------------------------------------------ABOUT THIS E-MAILThis e-mail was sent to you by a friend through NYTimes.com's E-mail This Article service. 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