Re: Earth to Bullworker club/Working Around Injuries

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Hi , We’re not getting any younger and can’t follow routines aimed at 20 year olds. I’m 58, and have to work around wear-and-tear to the body. I’ve been off the Bullworker for 6 months after getting a shoulder injury doing push-ups. I got frozen shoulder, either from the physio stretches for muscle knots or from falling from my hammock. I can stretch it out fully swimming the breast stroke, so that and cycling are my main workouts now. The iso-bow seems to work OK with a shoulder injury, as I can release the pressure instantly if it hurts. I can also use isometric contractions on the same basis. I have started to use a $2 dog toy that is designed as a woven chew rope for dogs, similar to the iso-bow but with different angles- the iso-bow regular curl becomes a hammer curl, for example. My Indian clubs, touted on the net for shoulder rehab, are useless at this stage. A few months ago I felt pain in a knuckle using an Iron Woody style gripper so laid it down for a while. A squeeze ball seems to cause no problems. Anyone else working around limitations? Marc

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Gentlemen,It has been "my" experience that any pain from Bullworker products has always been a pre-existing ailment, aggravated by age and movement no longer practical under certain loads. I came to this conclusion due to my opposing "good" side would not hurt during movement, while the "bad" side would ask for relief.As for the Iso-Bow, I too, just back off when I enter the "tender" zone and ramp it back up as soon as I leave it. There are certain movements joints do not naturally do, and not surprising, they hurt when attempted, especially under load. I find the majority of users who claim soreness are older and have years of

joint use from various exercises. I have wrestling injuries that seem to compound as the years continue... and are much more sensitive to stress than when I was younger. My advice for anyone going through an Iso-Motion movement... when you enter the "tender" zone... back-off and ramp back up after leaving the zone. This works for me... maybe not everyone, but hopeful the majority that respect and acknowledge their "joints" journey. Respectfully, Bullworker To: bullworkerclub Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:25 AM Subject: Re: Earth to Bullworker club/Working Around Injuries

Hi , We’re not getting any younger and can’t follow routines aimed at 20 year olds. I’m 58, and have to work around wear-and-tear to the body. I’ve been off the Bullworker for 6 months after getting a shoulder injury doing push-ups. I got frozen shoulder, either from the physio stretches for muscle knots or from falling from my hammock. I can stretch it out fully swimming the breast stroke, so that and cycling are my main

workouts now. The iso-bow seems to work OK with a shoulder injury, as I can release the pressure instantly if it hurts. I can also use isometric contractions on the same basis. I have started to use a $2 dog toy that is designed as a woven chew rope for dogs, similar to the iso-bow but with different angles- the iso-bow regular curl becomes a hammer curl, for example. My Indian clubs, touted on the net for shoulder rehab, are useless at this stage. A few months ago I felt pain in a knuckle using an Iron

Woody style gripper so laid it down for a while. A squeeze ball seems to cause no problems. Anyone else working around limitations? Marc

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"Anyone else working around limitations?" - MarcLike you Marc I'm in late 50s. Apart from arthritis pain with the iso-bow hand grips (at certain angles). The steel-bow sit @ home routine works fine. Apart from neck tinges. But I now do Steel bow one day, tabata exercising day 2 & exercise bike day 3 so whatever twinge or pain problems get two days rest. MY KNEES are my current problem. Not with the Bullworker but when peddling a stationary exercise bike. Yiiiiiii. Ican walk as exercise without any pain problems but the bike just 'hits the spot' unfortunately.QUESTION to members: Anyone got an 'eliptical trainer'? Are they gentler on the knee joints?-AaLF.......................................................................>> Gentlemen,> It has been "my" experience that any pain from Bullworker products has always been a pre-existing ailment, aggravated by age and movement no longer practical under certain loads.>  > I came to this conclusion due to my opposing "good" side would not hurt during movement, while the "bad" side would ask for relief.> As for the Iso-Bow, I too, just back off when I enter the "tender" zone and ramp it back up as soon as I leave it.>  > There are certain movements joints do not naturally do, and not surprising, they hurt when attempted, especially under load. I find the majority of users who claim soreness are older and have years of joint use from various exercises. I have wrestling injuries that seem to compound as the years continue... and are much more sensitive to stress than when I was younger.>  > My advice for anyone going through an Iso-Motion movement... when you enter the "tender" zone... back-off and ramp back up after leaving the zone. This works for me... maybe not everyone, but hopeful the majority that respect and acknowledge their "joints" journey.>  > Respectfully,> > Bullworker> > > ________________________________> To: bullworkerclub > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:25 AM> Subject: Re: Earth to Bullworker club/Working Around Injuries> > >  > > Hi ,>  > We’re not getting any younger and can’t follow routines aimed at 20 year olds. >  > I’m 58, and have to work around wear-and-tear to the body.>  > I’ve been off the Bullworker for 6 months after getting a shoulder injury doing push-ups. >  > I got frozen shoulder, either from the physio stretches for muscle knots or from falling from my hammock.>  > I can stretch it out fully swimming  the breast stroke, so that and cycling are my main workouts now. >  > The iso-bow seems to work OK with a shoulder injury, as I can release the pressure instantly if it hurts.>  > I can also use isometric contractions on the same basis.>  > I have started to  use a $2 dog toy that is designed as a woven chew rope for dogs, similar to the iso-bow but with different angles- the iso-bow regular curl becomes a hammer curl, for example.>  > My Indian clubs, touted on the net  for shoulder rehab, are useless at this stage. >  > A few months ago I felt pain in a knuckle using an Iron Woody style gripper so laid it down for a while. >  > A squeeze ball seems to cause no problems.>  > Anyone else working around limitations?>  > Marc>  >  >

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Two years ago I had shoulder surgery. 2 tears in the rotator cuff and a bone

spur. The Concept 2 Rower has helped my shoulder tremendously. Besides being a

low impact full body exercise, it's a great aerobic trainer. Easy on the knees

and joints.

Differently ellipticals hit the knees differently. You need to try them out to

see what I mean. I bought a used LifeFitness 5500HR which is very smooth and

" natural " feeling and doesn't bother any of my joints.

btw I was serious about the BodyRock site for High Intensity Interval Training.

Many different workout routines (and she ROCKS!)

Bob

> >

> > Gentlemen,

> > It has been " my " experience that any pain from Bullworker products has

> always been a pre-existing ailment, aggravated by age and movement no

> longer practical under certain loads.

> > Â

> > I came to this conclusion due to my opposing " good " side would not

> hurt during movement, while the " bad " side would ask for relief.

> > As for the Iso-Bow, I too, just back off when I enter the " tender "

> zone and ramp it back up as soon as I leave it.

> > Â

> > There are certain movements joints do not naturally do, and not

> surprising, they hurt when attempted, especially under load. I find the

> majority of users who claim soreness are older and have years of joint

> use from various exercises. I have wrestling injuries that seem to

> compound as the years continue... and are much more sensitive to stress

> than when I was younger.

> > Â

> > My advice for anyone going through an Iso-Motion movement... when you

> enter the " tender " zone... back-off and ramp back up after leaving the

> zone. This works for me... maybe not everyone, but hopeful the majority

> that respect and acknowledge their " joints " journey.

> > Â

> > Respectfully,

> >

> > Bullworker

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Marc Vautour marc.vtr@

> > To: bullworkerclub

> > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:25 AM

> > Subject: Re: Earth to Bullworker club/Working Around

> Injuries

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> > Hi ,

> > Â

> > We’re not getting any younger and can’t follow routines

> aimed at 20 year olds.

> > Â

> > I’m 58, and have to work around wear-and-tear to the body.

> > Â

> > I’ve been off the Bullworker for 6 months after getting a

> shoulder injury doing push-ups.

> > Â

> > I got frozen shoulder, either from the physio stretches for muscle

> knots or from falling from my hammock.

> > Â

> > I can stretch it out fully swimming  the breast stroke, so that

> and cycling are my main workouts now.

> > Â

> > The iso-bow seems to work OK with a shoulder injury, as I can release

> the pressure instantly if it hurts.

> > Â

> > I can also use isometric contractions on the same basis.

> > Â

> > I have started to  use a $2 dog toy that is designed as a woven

> chew rope for dogs, similar to the iso-bow but with different angles-

> the iso-bow regular curl becomes a hammer curl, for example.

> > Â

> > My Indian clubs, touted on the net  for shoulder rehab, are

> useless at this stage.

> > Â

> > A few months ago I felt pain in a knuckle using an Iron Woody style

> gripper so laid it down for a while.

> > Â

> > A squeeze ball seems to cause no problems.

> > Â

> > Anyone else working around limitations?

> > Â

> > Marc

> > Â

> > Â

> >

>

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I am 65 and no injuries from bullworker.I am carefull and don't try and overdo it. I did strain myself a while back with Kettlebell (my own fault over did it) My X5 is getting loose. It seams to have some wobble. if I take both handles it will move slightly.

The result for me is sometimes I work 70 hours a week and I am not fatigued.

I probably would look better if I didn't drink so much beer but that seams a high price to pay.

Chuck

To: bullworkerclub Sent: Wed, July 18, 2012 3:52:21 PMSubject: Re: Earth to Bullworker club/Working Around Injuries

Two years ago I had shoulder surgery. 2 tears in the rotator cuff and a bone spur. The Concept 2 Rower has helped my shoulder tremendously. Besides being a low impact full body exercise, it's a great aerobic trainer. Easy on the knees and joints.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_zmJYQ5URwDifferently ellipticals hit the knees differently. You need to try them out to see what I mean. I bought a used LifeFitness 5500HR which is very smooth and "natural" feeling and doesn't bother any of my joints.btw I was serious about the BodyRock site for High Intensity Interval Training. Many different workout routines (and she ROCKS!)Bob> >> > Gentlemen,> > It has been "my" experience that any pain from Bullworker products has> always been a pre-existing ailment, aggravated by age and movement no> longer practical under certain loads.> > Â> > I came to this conclusion due to my opposing "good" side would not> hurt during movement, while the "bad" side would ask for relief.> > As for the Iso-Bow, I too, just back off when I enter the "tender"> zone and ramp it back up as soon as I leave it.> > Â> > There are certain movements joints do not naturally do, and not> surprising, they hurt when attempted, especially under load. I find the> majority of users who claim soreness are older and have years of joint> use from various

exercises. I have wrestling injuries that seem to> compound as the years continue... and are much more sensitive to stress> than when I was younger.> > Â> > My advice for anyone going through an Iso-Motion movement... when you> enter the "tender" zone... back-off and ramp back up after leaving the> zone. This works for me... maybe not everyone, but hopeful the majority> that respect and acknowledge their "joints" journey.> > Â> > Respectfully,> > > > Bullworker> >> >> > ________________________________> > From: Marc Vautour marc.vtr@> > To: bullworkerclub > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:25 AM> > Subject: Re: Earth

to Bullworker club/Working Around> Injuries> >> >> > Â> >> > Hi ,> > Â> > We’re not getting any younger and can’t follow routines> aimed at 20 year olds.> > Â> > I’m 58, and have to work around wear-and-tear to the body.> > Â> > I’ve been off the Bullworker for 6 months after getting a> shoulder injury doing push-ups.> > Â> > I got frozen shoulder, either from the physio stretches for muscle> knots or from falling from my hammock.> > Â> > I can stretch it out fully swimming  the breast stroke, so that> and cycling are my main workouts now.> > Â> > The iso-bow seems to work OK with a shoulder injury, as I can release> the pressure instantly if it hurts.> > Â> > I can also use isometric

contractions on the same basis.> > Â> > I have started to  use a $2 dog toy that is designed as a woven> chew rope for dogs, similar to the iso-bow but with different angles-> the iso-bow regular curl becomes a hammer curl, for example.> > Â> > My Indian clubs, touted on the net  for shoulder rehab, are> useless at this stage.> > Â> > A few months ago I felt pain in a knuckle using an Iron Woody style> gripper so laid it down for a while.> > Â> > A squeeze ball seems to cause no problems.> > Â> > Anyone else working around limitations?> > Â> > Marc> > Â> > Â> >>

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Great to see every one having a bit of a chat it was bit boring Around hear

lately .

As I am fithy I also have a few issues with my shoulders I had tear about two

years ago and wouldn't let them operate it came goodI just worked throu it but

still get the od ach here and their . I guess a life of working up poles etc

hasn't helped but exercise keeps me going as I still got a lot bills and I

will never end up in the office if I can help it . Anyway I am flat typeing this

no chance surviving an office job give me a big shifter and a hammer any day

LOL !

> > >

> > > Gentlemen,

> > > It has been " my " experience that any pain from Bullworker products has

> > always been a pre-existing ailment, aggravated by age and movement no

> > longer practical under certain loads.

> > > Â

> > > I came to this conclusion due to my opposing " good " side would not

> > hurt during movement, while the " bad " side would ask for relief.

> > > As for the Iso-Bow, I too, just back off when I enter the " tender "

> > zone and ramp it back up as soon as I leave it.

> > > Â

> > > There are certain movements joints do not naturally do, and not

> > surprising, they hurt when attempted, especially under load. I find the

> > majority of users who claim soreness are older and have years of joint

> > use from various exercises. I have wrestling injuries that seem to

> > compound as the years continue... and are much more sensitive to stress

> > than when I was younger.

> > > Â

> > > My advice for anyone going through an Iso-Motion movement... when you

> > enter the " tender " zone... back-off and ramp back up after leaving the

> > zone. This works for me... maybe not everyone, but hopeful the majority

> > that respect and acknowledge their " joints " journey.

> > > Â

> > > Respectfully,

> > >

> > > Bullworker

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Marc Vautour marc.vtr@

> > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:25 AM

> > > Subject: Re: Earth to Bullworker club/Working Around

> > Injuries

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > > Hi ,

> > > Â

> > > We’re not getting any younger and can’t follow routines

> > aimed at 20 year olds.

> > > Â

> > > I’m 58, and have to work around wear-and-tear to the body.

> > > Â

> > > I’ve been off the Bullworker for 6 months after getting a

> > shoulder injury doing push-ups.

> > > Â

> > > I got frozen shoulder, either from the physio stretches for muscle

> > knots or from falling from my hammock.

> > > Â

> > > I can stretch it out fully swimming  the breast stroke, so that

> > and cycling are my main workouts now.

> > > Â

> > > The iso-bow seems to work OK with a shoulder injury, as I can release

> > the pressure instantly if it hurts.

> > > Â

> > > I can also use isometric contractions on the same basis.

> > > Â

> > > I have started to  use a $2 dog toy that is designed as a woven

> > chew rope for dogs, similar to the iso-bow but with different angles-

> > the iso-bow regular curl becomes a hammer curl, for example.

> > > Â

> > > My Indian clubs, touted on the net  for shoulder rehab, are

> > useless at this stage.

> > > Â

> > > A few months ago I felt pain in a knuckle using an Iron Woody style

> > gripper so laid it down for a while.

> > > Â

> > > A squeeze ball seems to cause no problems.

> > > Â

> > > Anyone else working around limitations?

> > > Â

> > > Marc

> > > Â

> > > Â

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well john judging from your latest video efforts with the isogym you go alright

for a old bloke LOL sorry about the old! Hope I can still hang from doors

in a few years ! Goes to show if you don't use it you lose it . All them years

of bully's haven't done you any harm . Acually my steelbow helped repair my

shoulder it wasn't just good luck and it saved a operation . I notice these

days I get more aches and pains when I stop exersicing !

>

> Gentlemen,

> It has been " my " experience that any pain from Bullworker products has always

been a pre-existing ailment, aggravated by age and movement no longer practical

under certain loads.

>  

> I came to this conclusion due to my opposing " good " side would not hurt

during movement, while the " bad " side would ask for relief.

> As for the Iso-Bow, I too, just back off when I enter the " tender " zone and

ramp it back up as soon as I leave it.

>  

> There are certain movements joints do not naturally do, and not surprising,

they hurt when attempted, especially under load. I find the majority of users

who claim soreness are older and have years of joint use from various exercises.

I have wrestling injuries that seem to compound as the years continue... and are

much more sensitive to stress than when I was younger.

>  

> My advice for anyone going through an Iso-Motion movement... when you enter

the " tender " zone... back-off and ramp back up after leaving the zone. This

works for me... maybe not everyone, but hopeful the majority that respect and

acknowledge their " joints " journey.

>  

> Respectfully,

>

> Bullworker

> I

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: bullworkerclub

> Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:25 AM

> Subject: Re: Earth to Bullworker club/Working Around Injuries

>

>

>  

>

> Hi ,

>  

> We’re not getting any younger and can’t follow routines aimed at 20 year

olds.

>  

> I’m 58, and have to work around wear-and-tear to the body.

>  

> I’ve been off the Bullworker for 6 months after getting a shoulder injury

doing push-ups.

>  

> I got frozen shoulder, either from the physio stretches for muscle knots or

from falling from my hammock.

>  

> I can stretch it out fully swimming  the breast stroke, so that and cycling

are my main workouts now.

>  

> The iso-bow seems to work OK with a shoulder injury, as I can release the

pressure instantly if it hurts.

>  

> I can also use isometric contractions on the same basis.

>  

> I have started to  use a $2 dog toy that is designed as a woven chew rope for

dogs, similar to the iso-bow but with different angles- the iso-bow regular curl

becomes a hammer curl, for example.

>  

> My Indian clubs, touted on the net  for shoulder rehab, are useless at this

stage.

>  

> A few months ago I felt pain in a knuckle using an Iron Woody style gripper so

laid it down for a while.

>  

> A squeeze ball seems to cause no problems.

>  

> Anyone else working around limitations?

>  

> Marc

>  

>  

>

[Guest guest]

Fellows, Pardon me a few reflections, which may need to be corrected. , the fact that you can: ‘’ just back off when (you) enter the " tender " zone and ramp it back up as soon as (you) leave it.’’ is an incredible advantage over many exercise devices that makes the Iso-Bow a valuable rehab tool. My dumbbells, twister bar, chest expanders, can’t do this The baby boomer niche is underserved on the net, but is the potentially most lucrative niche to target. Jack Lalanne said that one should exercise the muscles he could. People in chairs are a great market for the steelbow and the IsoBow. Aalf, Perhaps adjusting your seat backwards on the exercise bicycle would relieve the knee pain. If I remember correctly from readings on bicycling, when the leg is at 90 degrees, the ball of the foot should not be behind the knee. Check it out on the net. Bob, I haven’t got the place for a rower, though I’ve used them and like them. As bicycling provides my leg and aerobics components, I tried a light rubber tube on my tree hook for rowing and see how, if I choose a non-painful angle which is possible, it may be useful. I have also discovered that slowing down the Indian clubs makes some movements feasible. from Oz, I wonder if thickening the handles of your Iso-Bow would help with the arthritis. I put a compressible self-adhesive rubber plumbing sleeve on my hex dumbbells, and use 2’’ plastic pipe on adjustable dumbbells. Hoping to hear some innovative ideas, Marc