Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I have been hesitant to post after my initial introduction, since so many of you seemed upbeat and motivated, and on track, and I felt totally out of control, but I really do need some support, so here I am. I have faithfully listened to the podcasts, but continue to struggle on a daily basis with what feel like overwhelming compulsions to eat. I had been in Weight Watchers, but decided to leave after my group leader responded to my comment that I couldn't seem to stop eating by saying that we all have choices. A lot of the time lately I don't feel like I have choices. My compulsion to eat is every bit as strong as any alcoholic's compulsion to drink. After having lost 85 pounds, it is nothing short of devastating to me that I'm regaining that weight, and yet I can't seem to stop myself from putting that next bite (and many after that) in my mouth. Are any of you having such a struggle? If so, how are you dealing with it? If any of you can reach out with some words of comfort, support, encouragement or advice, I would be eternally grateful. Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Pat, Every day, every meal is a struggle. I doubt anybody in this group would tell you how " easy " it is for them. Even staying positive is tough. What I try to look for is the small victories. " I ate two less bites than last time. " Big changes rarely stick; small changes are what wins the race. 's podcast is awesome for developing small changes. Also, the fact that you are recognizing when you are over eating is a small victory. There are levels of progress. Most people dont recognize their mistakes. As you become more aware, and use the techniques in the podcasts; you will begin to recognize the mistakes sooner and sooner, until you see them before you make them. Many people talk about stop eating. But very few talk about what to replace it with. talks about that in the three levels of self correcting. If you havent got that far in the podcasts, just be patient. Follow her steps and you will feel as positive as the rest of us. Randy > I have been hesitant to post after my initial introduction, since so > many of > you seemed upbeat and motivated, and on track, and I felt totally out of > control, but I really do need some support, so here I am. > > I have faithfully listened to the podcasts, but continue to struggle on a > daily basis with what feel like overwhelming compulsions to eat. I had > been > in Weight Watchers, but decided to leave after my group leader responded > to > my comment that I couldn't seem to stop eating by saying that we all have > choices. A lot of the time lately I don't feel like I have choices. My > compulsion to eat is every bit as strong as any alcoholic's compulsion to > drink. After having lost 85 pounds, it is nothing short of devastating to > me that I'm regaining that weight, and yet I can't seem to stop myself > from > putting that next bite (and many after that) in my mouth. > > Are any of you having such a struggle? If so, how are you dealing with it? > If any of you can reach out with some words of comfort, support, > encouragement or advice, I would be eternally grateful. > > Pat > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Pat, are you feeling anxious about something? Often when I am eating compulsively, I'm self-medicating. But before I could change eating wildly, I had to sort out WHY. It's most likely not about hunger. I wish I could reach out and give you a big hug right now. Just know that we are all in this together, and I am so rooting for you!! We can do this! We can change our habits, and we can wake up our true selves and get to know why we do what we do, and how we can choose a better way. It doesn't happen overnight, but we CAN change. So don't give up on yourself. And every time you fall, get up and try again. That's the most important lesson that I have learned. Don't ever give up on yourself!!! There's hope! Love, Michele > > I have been hesitant to post after my initial introduction, since so many of > you seemed upbeat and motivated, and on track, and I felt totally out of > control, but I really do need some support, so here I am. > > > > I have faithfully listened to the podcasts, but continue to struggle on a > daily basis with what feel like overwhelming compulsions to eat. I had been > in Weight Watchers, but decided to leave after my group leader responded to > my comment that I couldn't seem to stop eating by saying that we all have > choices. A lot of the time lately I don't feel like I have choices. My > compulsion to eat is every bit as strong as any alcoholic's compulsion to > drink. After having lost 85 pounds, it is nothing short of devastating to > me that I'm regaining that weight, and yet I can't seem to stop myself from > putting that next bite (and many after that) in my mouth. > > > > Are any of you having such a struggle? If so, how are you dealing with it? > If any of you can reach out with some words of comfort, support, > encouragement or advice, I would be eternally grateful. > > > > Pat > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Pat, I think you're on to something with both the journaling, and especially with the scrapbooking. Finding something to keep your hands and mind busy during down time can really keep me from stuffing myself mindlessly. I am working on this myself. Another thing I'm just getting started on is Qi Gong, which is a real stress reliever. I learned about it from Dr Oz on Oprah, and my husband and I are working toward using a dvd every other evening. When I have used it, I have felt so much better afterwards, and he is very stressed at work as well. I'm excited at the prospect of another new tool. Anyway, keep up the great work, and the willingness to try new things. This is definitely a journey of many steps, and no quick fixes. Love, Michele > > > > I have been hesitant to post after my initial introduction, since so > many of > > you seemed upbeat and motivated, and on track, and I felt totally out of > > control, but I really do need some support, so here I am. > > > > > > > > I have faithfully listened to the podcasts, but continue to struggle > on a > > daily basis with what feel like overwhelming compulsions to eat. I > had been > > in Weight Watchers, but decided to leave after my group leader > responded to > > my comment that I couldn't seem to stop eating by saying that we all > have > > choices. A lot of the time lately I don't feel like I have choices. My > > compulsion to eat is every bit as strong as any alcoholic's > compulsion to > > drink. After having lost 85 pounds, it is nothing short of > devastating to > > me that I'm regaining that weight, and yet I can't seem to stop > myself from > > putting that next bite (and many after that) in my mouth. > > > > > > > > Are any of you having such a struggle? If so, how are you dealing > with it? > > If any of you can reach out with some words of comfort, support, > > encouragement or advice, I would be eternally grateful. > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 , I listened to both self correcting podcasts today, I journalled, and I gave a lot of thought to what triggers my compulsion to eat, as well as what I can do to help keep that from happening, or at least to deal with it in a more constructive and healthy way. I had my small victory (small incremental changes, says ) tonight. I had just had supper, and a short time later I felt like I needed to go back to the kitchen and find myself something sweet. I did go to the kitchen, but what I ate was a banana, and I felt great about that. Baby steps. What is Qi Gong? I've never heard of it. Hugs, Pat _____ Pat, I think you're on to something with both the journaling, and especially with the scrapbooking. Finding something to keep your hands and mind busy during down time can really keep me from stuffing myself mindlessly. I am working on this myself. Another thing I'm just getting started on is Qi Gong, which is a real stress reliever. I learned about it from Dr Oz on Oprah, and my husband and I are working toward using a dvd every other evening. When I have used it, I have felt so much better afterwards, and he is very stressed at work as well. I'm excited at the prospect of another new tool. Anyway, keep up the great work, and the willingness to try new things. This is definitely a journey of many steps, and no quick fixes. Love, Michele > > > > I have been hesitant to post after my initial introduction, since so > many of > > you seemed upbeat and motivated, and on track, and I felt totally out of > > control, but I really do need some support, so here I am. > > > > > > > > I have faithfully listened to the podcasts, but continue to struggle > on a > > daily basis with what feel like overwhelming compulsions to eat. I > had been > > in Weight Watchers, but decided to leave after my group leader > responded to > > my comment that I couldn't seem to stop eating by saying that we all > have > > choices. A lot of the time lately I don't feel like I have choices. My > > compulsion to eat is every bit as strong as any alcoholic's > compulsion to > > drink. After having lost 85 pounds, it is nothing short of > devastating to > > me that I'm regaining that weight, and yet I can't seem to stop > myself from > > putting that next bite (and many after that) in my mouth. > > > > > > > > Are any of you having such a struggle? If so, how are you dealing > with it? > > If any of you can reach out with some words of comfort, support, > > encouragement or advice, I would be eternally grateful. > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 Qigong is a chinese system of health and exercise. The exercises are very gentle and more about improving the internal energy flow then actually physical workout; although it has very beneficial physical effects. Qigong exercise are very similar in form and fashion to Tai Chi, in fact the two are very close cousins. If you are interested, there is a wonderful system of 18 exercises, often referred to as Tai Chi Shibashi. You can download a free video from www.taichi18.com. The exercises are very gentle and easy to perform. The site also offers two separate dvd you can purchase. I really enjoy the Shibashi set and try to practice it often. There are several books that are good for beginners on the subject: Qigong for Health and Vitality by Tse and The Theory and Practice of Taiji Qigong by Jarmey. Both are excellent beginners guides and discuss the Tai Chi Shibashi set. > , > > I listened to both self correcting podcasts today, I journalled, and I > gave > a lot of thought to what triggers my compulsion to eat, as well as what I > can do to help keep that from happening, or at least to deal with it in a > more constructive and healthy way. I had my small victory (small > incremental changes, says ) tonight. I had just had supper, and a > short time later I felt like I needed to go back to the kitchen and find > myself something sweet. I did go to the kitchen, but what I ate was a > banana, and I felt great about that. Baby steps. > > What is Qi Gong? I've never heard of it. > > Hugs, > > Pat > > _____ > > Pat, I think you're on to something with both the journaling, and > especially with the scrapbooking. Finding something to keep your > hands and mind busy during down time can really keep me from stuffing > myself mindlessly. I am working on this myself. Another thing I'm > just getting started on is Qi Gong, which is a real stress reliever. > I learned about it from Dr Oz on Oprah, and my husband and I are > working toward using a dvd every other evening. When I have used it, > I have felt so much better afterwards, and he is very stressed at work > as well. I'm excited at the prospect of another new tool. Anyway, > keep up the great work, and the willingness to try new things. This > is definitely a journey of many steps, and no quick fixes. > > Love, > Michele > > > > > > > > I have been hesitant to post after my initial introduction, since so > > many of > > > you seemed upbeat and motivated, and on track, and I felt totally > out of > > > control, but I really do need some support, so here I am. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have faithfully listened to the podcasts, but continue to struggle > > on a > > > daily basis with what feel like overwhelming compulsions to eat. I > > had been > > > in Weight Watchers, but decided to leave after my group leader > > responded to > > > my comment that I couldn't seem to stop eating by saying that we all > > have > > > choices. A lot of the time lately I don't feel like I have choices. My > > > compulsion to eat is every bit as strong as any alcoholic's > > compulsion to > > > drink. After having lost 85 pounds, it is nothing short of > > devastating to > > > me that I'm regaining that weight, and yet I can't seem to stop > > myself from > > > putting that next bite (and many after that) in my mouth. > > > > > > > > > > > > Are any of you having such a struggle? If so, how are you dealing > > with it? > > > If any of you can reach out with some words of comfort, support, > > > encouragement or advice, I would be eternally grateful. > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Oh Pat - I know what you mean. Some days I almost feel like my eating is a to do list - OK - what do I eat next? One thing I know is that it seems to run in cycles - I seem to get past it and once everything settles down I can get back into a routine. I know a few things help me every time - when I am at home feeling like a shark (a shark is always hungry and swims with the mouth open to get everything it can from the sea - someone told me that Anyway - when I feel like that - a change of scene can usually work - go for a walk - not even an aerobic one is necessary - just a stroll, go run an errand - even go the library. I try not to go to the grocery store <grins>. Sometimes I go to a different part of my house and try a yoga dvd. When I am in a cycle of this, sometimes this is just a band aid but sometimes it can break the cycle. Real exercise can really snap it if only for a few hours but I do know that sometimes when I am in this mode, I can't convince myself to go do that. I have a very supportive husband and if I call him that is very helpful. Sometimes I call a friend I haven't chatted with recently. Basically, I just try to distract myself. Most times it works, but of course not always. One other distraction that sometimes works - I take a bath and go to bed early. I've had issues with Weight Watchers and it is totally my problem, not theirs. I put the leaders up on a pedestal and when they make human mistakes I blame them for my bad behavior. I am such a people pleas-er, I want them to approve of me and when they say a judgmental comment I so take it personally and use it as an excuse to make bad choices. I've stayed away from WW for some time because somehow I just can't handle the judgment. Obviously, I need to get past a lot of things. One thing I may try is one of 's pay for downloads about being stuck, and what is holding you back. She also has one about appetite and wanting to eat all the time. Here is the link http://mindforbody.hotdoodle.com/?section=377 I am going to try one of these sometime soon. Take care and don't hesitate to post Diane --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 Diane, How well I know about cycles. It's the same for me. If something sets me off (an argument with my daughter, getting grief from the boss, etc.) I go into a tailspin, and feel like I absolutely, positively have to eat some comfort food. Sometimes I can snap right back, and others times it just seems to drag on and on. I'm really taking a much closer look at my behavior in those situation than I ever have before, thanks to , and the closer I look, the more encouraged I feel that I can make those small changes required to add up to the big change at the end of the line. Today I'm feeling good about 2 things. One is that I'm really enjoying journaling, and the other is that my sister, who has been a constant source of support for me, although we're geographically far apart, has applied for membership on this list. What a wonderful thing it would be if we both found what we've spent a lifetime looking for right here. Pat _____ Oh Pat - I know what you mean. Some days I almost feel like my eating is a to do list - OK - what do I eat next? One thing I know is that it seems to run in cycles - I seem to get past it and once everything settles down I can get back into a routine. I know a few things help me every time - when I am at home feeling like a shark (a shark is always hungry and swims with the mouth open to get everything it can from the sea - someone told me that Anyway - when I feel like that - a change of scene can usually work - go for a walk - not even an aerobic one is necessary - just a stroll, go run an errand - even go the library. I try not to go to the grocery store <grins>. Sometimes I go to a different part of my house and try a yoga dvd. When I am in a cycle of this, sometimes this is just a band aid but sometimes it can break the cycle. Real exercise can really snap it if only for a few hours but I do know that sometimes when I am in this mode, I can't convince myself to go do that. I have a very supportive husband and if I call him that is very helpful. Sometimes I call a friend I haven't chatted with recently. Basically, I just try to distract myself. Most times it works, but of course not always. One other distraction that sometimes works - I take a bath and go to bed early. I've had issues with Weight Watchers and it is totally my problem, not theirs. I put the leaders up on a pedestal and when they make human mistakes I blame them for my bad behavior. I am such a people pleas-er, I want them to approve of me and when they say a judgmental comment I so take it personally and use it as an excuse to make bad choices. I've stayed away from WW for some time because somehow I just can't handle the judgment. Obviously, I need to get past a lot of things. One thing I may try is one of 's pay for downloads about being stuck, and what is holding you back. She also has one about appetite and wanting to eat all the time. Here is the link http://mindforbody. <http://mindforbody.hotdoodle.com/?section=377> hotdoodle.com/?section=377 I am going to try one of these sometime soon. Take care and don't hesitate to post Diane --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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