Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 Jeanette wrote: > Males are allowed to have and expected to be egotistical in society. > That is part of the male " pissing " contest. Women don't have that > requirement or expectation- in fact, the opposite. So it is far more > likely that males will have much bigger egos than females simply > be cultural and societal differenced, NOT because of their sex, in > and of itself. I think the real meaning of " pissing contest " has been lost in the shuffle, and overuse of the phrase. There is, in fact, some validity for men to have pissing contests. The young and vigorous can, in fact, piss further than older men, who often have enlarged prostate glands which prevent a strong stream. And so, this is an excellent indicator of youth, health, and vigor. As for women, it should be obvious that, if they were to compete in a pissing contest, the only result would be soggy shoes. 8< ) Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 > I think the real meaning of " pissing contest " has been lost in the > shuffle, and overuse of the phrase. There is, in fact, some validity > for men to have pissing contests. The young and vigorous can, in > fact, piss further than older men, who often have enlarged prostate > glands which prevent a strong stream. And so, this is an excellent > indicator of youth, health, and vigor. As for women, it should be > obvious that, if they were to compete in a pissing contest, the only > result would be soggy shoes. 8< ) > > Clay rof,LMAO!!!!! Hehehe....... Gareth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 > As for women, it should be > obvious that, if they were to compete in a pissing contest, the only > result would be soggy shoes. 8< ) Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. While we can't generally aim as well as men can, we can often aim both forward and away from our shoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 I wrote: > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) And responded: > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > we can often aim both forward and away from our > shoes. I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing that while in the standing position. What about splatter? Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 please see the movie the full monty for a demonstration... I hear some women are more adept at this than others... for me I prefer everyone to sit to pee at my house, as I don't find that males of any age really have all that great of aim either... :-[ JMHO dani Clay wrote: > I wrote: > > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) > > And responded: > > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > > we can often aim both forward and away from our > > shoes. > > I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't > seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing > that while in the standing position. What about > splatter? > > Clay > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 danielle strom danced around singing: >for me I prefer everyone to >sit to pee at my house, as I don't find that males of any age really >have all that great of aim either... :-[ My paternal family -- the one with a lot of people that are on the spectrum -- decided long ago to train the boys from the beginning to sit down when they urinate. Worked well enough in our household that I had never even heard of the " aiming problem " until my stepfather moved in and started making messes on the floor. Yuck. Do all men splatter or miss? Or is it just some of them? I haven't noticed any mess when I have stayed with my partner, but maybe he just cleans it up... I know he doesn't sit down, because I have to keep remembering to leave the seat up. (I figure if I'm visiting a guy's home, then I should do him the courtesy of leaving the seat in whatever position I found it, as that is what I would prefer if he were visiting my place.) DeGraf ~*~ http://www.sonic.net/mustang/moggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 dani wrote; > please see the movie the full monty for a > demonstration...I hear some women are more > adept at this than others...for me I prefer > everyone to sit to pee at my house, as I > don't find that males of any age really have > all that great of aim either... :-[ Haven't seen that movie. It's possible that the men (or boys) you know of actually do hit the inside of the bowl, but the law of physics dictates that some amount splashes out again. I am a perfectionist, and so I try to hit the inside of the bowl, above the water. It minimizes noise, if there is anyone about, and also minimizes splash-out. :-) > Clay wrote: > > I wrote: > > > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) > > And responded: > > > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > > > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > > > we can often aim both forward and away from our > > > shoes. > > I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't > > seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing > > that while in the standing position. What about > > splatter? > > Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2003 Report Share Posted November 9, 2003 well it is true that toilet bowls are very low for most men... and boys, well they are easily distracted.... (theres a really cute commercial about this wehre the kid gets called and he turns still peeing and then back again... " for teh dirt you know aobut and the dirt you don't " says the ad for some cleaning product...) clay it sounds you are very conscientous, but most guys after a couple of weeks of cohabiting, when I takea clean clotha dn wipe the walls and floors (that appear clean) and they can see and smell the urine from the splashes, well I tell them they can clean the toilet wall and floor around it wweekly or sit down to pee and that decides is pretty quick... I'm sure that my 6'4 " exhusbands new wife really appreciates that training! and clay, even when we women are gripping about men stuff, we still know that best intentions can go awry... I personally think expecting anyone to hit a target froma distance, (with what is, let's face it, a rather unpredictable organ at times) and manytiems in low lioghting conditions, is cruel... setting them up for disaapointment if you ask me... dani Clay wrote: > dani wrote; > > > please see the movie the full monty for a > > demonstration...I hear some women are more > > adept at this than others...for me I prefer > > everyone to sit to pee at my house, as I > > don't find that males of any age really have > > all that great of aim either... :-[ > > Haven't seen that movie. It's possible that > the men (or boys) you know of actually do hit > the inside of the bowl, but the law of physics > dictates that some amount splashes out again. > I am a perfectionist, and so I try to hit the > inside of the bowl, above the water. It minimizes > noise, if there is anyone about, and also minimizes > splash-out. :-) > > > Clay wrote: > > > > I wrote: > > > > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > > > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > > > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) > > > > And responded: > > > > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > > > > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > > > > we can often aim both forward and away from our > > > > shoes. > > > > I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't > > > seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing > > > that while in the standing position. What about > > > splatter? > > > > Clay > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 gosh I hope everyone knows this was all written very tongue in cheeky :-[ :-P dani danielle strom wrote: > well it is true that toilet bowls are very low for most men... and boys, > well they are easily distracted.... (theres a really cute commercial > about this wehre the kid gets called and he turns still peeing and then > back again... " for teh dirt you know aobut and the dirt you don't " says > the ad for some cleaning product...) > > clay it sounds you are very conscientous, but most guys after a couple > of weeks of cohabiting, when I takea clean clotha dn wipe the walls and > floors (that appear clean) and they can see and smell the urine from the > splashes, well I tell them they can clean the toilet wall and floor > around it wweekly or sit down to pee and that decides is pretty quick... > I'm sure that my 6'4 " exhusbands new wife really appreciates that > training! > > and clay, even when we women are gripping about men stuff, we still know > that best intentions can go awry... > > > > I personally think expecting anyone to hit a target froma distance, > (with what is, let's face it, a rather unpredictable organ at times) and > manytiems in low lioghting conditions, is cruel... setting them up for > disaapointment if you ask me... > > dani > > Clay wrote: > > > dani wrote; > > > > > please see the movie the full monty for a > > > demonstration...I hear some women are more > > > adept at this than others...for me I prefer > > > everyone to sit to pee at my house, as I > > > don't find that males of any age really have > > > all that great of aim either... :-[ > > > > Haven't seen that movie. It's possible that > > the men (or boys) you know of actually do hit > > the inside of the bowl, but the law of physics > > dictates that some amount splashes out again. > > I am a perfectionist, and so I try to hit the > > inside of the bowl, above the water. It minimizes > > noise, if there is anyone about, and also minimizes > > splash-out. :-) > > > > > Clay wrote: > > > > > > I wrote: > > > > > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > > > > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > > > > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) > > > > > > And responded: > > > > > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > > > > > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > > > > > we can often aim both forward and away from our > > > > > shoes. > > > > > > I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't > > > > seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing > > > > that while in the standing position. What about > > > > splatter? > > > > > > Clay > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Neil wrote: > On the subject of pissing, could someone explain > who invented the North American flush? Why does > the water need to rise so high in the bowl? Well, I don't know who invented it, but it shouldn't rise so high, unless the toilet is backed up or some- thing. There's supposed to be a strong swirl motion, in case someone has diarrhea. Really helps. > As I have not been circumcised and do not retract > my foreskin when performing regular fluid waste > disposal exercises, my aim may not be as accurate > as that of many North Americans with resulting > splashes on my legs, the nearby floor or walls. > This doesn't happen so often on this side of the > big pond, because my aim is usually accurate enough > to hit bowl without any fluid rebounding. > Neil Oooooh, foreskin - icky! > > well it is true that toilet bowls are very low for most men... > > and boys, well they are easily distracted.... (theres a really > > cute commercial about this where the kid gets called and > > he turns still peeing and then back again... " for the dirt you > > know about, and the dirt you don't " says the ad for some > > cleaning product...) > > clay it sounds you are very conscientous, but most guys > > after a couple of weeks of cohabiting, when I take a clean > > cloth and wipe the walls and floors (that appear clean) and > > they can see and smell the urine from the splashes, well I > > tell them they can clean the toilet wall and floor around it > > weekly or sit down to pee and that decides is pretty quick... > > I'm sure that my 6'4 " ex-husbands new wife really appreciates > > that training! > > and clay, even when we women are griping about men stuff, > > we still know that best intentions can go awry... > > I personally think expecting anyone to hit a target from a > > distance, (with what is, let's face it, a rather unpredictable > > organ at times) and many times in low lighting conditions, > > is cruel... setting them up for disapointment if you ask me... > > dani > > Clay wrote: > > > dani wrote; > > > > please see the movie the full monty for a > > > > demonstration...I hear some women are more > > > > adept at this than others...for me I prefer > > > > everyone to sit to pee at my house, as I > > > > don't find that males of any age really have > > > > all that great of aim either... :-[ > > > Haven't seen that movie. It's possible that > > > the men (or boys) you know of actually do hit > > > the inside of the bowl, but the law of physics > > > dictates that some amount splashes out again. > > > I am a perfectionist, and so I try to hit the > > > inside of the bowl, above the water. It minimizes > > > noise, if there is anyone about, and also minimizes > > > splash-out. :-) > > > > Clay wrote: > > > > > I wrote: > > > > > > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > > > > > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > > > > > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) > > > > > And responded: > > > > > > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > > > > > > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > > > > > > we can often aim both forward and away from our > > > > > > shoes. > > > > > I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't > > > > > seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing > > > > > that while in the standing position. What about > > > > > splatter? > > > > > Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 On the subject of pissing, could someone explain who invented the North American flush? Why does the water need to rise so high in the bowl? As I have not been circumcised and do not retract my foreskin when performing regular fluid waste disposal exercises, my aim may not be as accurate as that of many North Americans with resulting splashes on my legs, the nearby floor or walls. This doesn't happen so foten on this side of the big pond, because my aim is usually accurate enough to hit bowl without any fluid rebounding. Neil Re: Re: Pissing contests > well it is true that toilet bowls are very low for most men... and boys, > well they are easily distracted.... (theres a really cute commercial > about this wehre the kid gets called and he turns still peeing and then > back again... " for teh dirt you know aobut and the dirt you don't " says > the ad for some cleaning product...) > > clay it sounds you are very conscientous, but most guys after a couple > of weeks of cohabiting, when I takea clean clotha dn wipe the walls and > floors (that appear clean) and they can see and smell the urine from the > splashes, well I tell them they can clean the toilet wall and floor > around it wweekly or sit down to pee and that decides is pretty quick... > I'm sure that my 6'4 " exhusbands new wife really appreciates that training! > > and clay, even when we women are gripping about men stuff, we still know > that best intentions can go awry... > > > > I personally think expecting anyone to hit a target froma distance, > (with what is, let's face it, a rather unpredictable organ at times) and > manytiems in low lioghting conditions, is cruel... setting them up for > disaapointment if you ask me... > > dani > > Clay wrote: > > > dani wrote; > > > > > please see the movie the full monty for a > > > demonstration...I hear some women are more > > > adept at this than others...for me I prefer > > > everyone to sit to pee at my house, as I > > > don't find that males of any age really have > > > all that great of aim either... :-[ > > > > Haven't seen that movie. It's possible that > > the men (or boys) you know of actually do hit > > the inside of the bowl, but the law of physics > > dictates that some amount splashes out again. > > I am a perfectionist, and so I try to hit the > > inside of the bowl, above the water. It minimizes > > noise, if there is anyone about, and also minimizes > > splash-out. :-) > > > > > Clay wrote: > > > > > > I wrote: > > > > > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > > > > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > > > > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) > > > > > > And responded: > > > > > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > > > > > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > > > > > we can often aim both forward and away from our > > > > > shoes. > > > > > > I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't > > > > seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing > > > > that while in the standing position. What about > > > > splatter? > > > > > > Clay > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2003 Report Share Posted November 10, 2003 Neil wrote: >On the subject of pissing, could someone explain who invented the North >American flush? Why does the water need to rise so high in the bowl? I had a plumber here a couple of weeks ago to give me an estimate on fixing a leak in the seldom-used toilet in the basement. He gave me an estimate for fixing the in-place toilet and for replacing the toilet. Although replacing would be about $20 cheaper, he said he recommended fixing the old (and I do mean old) one. All new toilets, he said, are required to be " low flow. " The ancient one that has been down there in the basement for ever is the old kind and does an efficient job of flushing out the equally ancient sewer connection. In other words, we on this side of the pond are in the process of switching over from the " high rise " toilets you observed here to a more modest low-flow variety. So far, I've chosen " none of the above, " preferring to live with the leak rather than spend almost 400 (!) dollars. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 There is a web site tutorial for women on " how to pee standing up. " There are two different methods to do so. This is probably all you care to know on the subject, but if anyone would like more information I can probably locate the link. Clay wrote:I wrote: > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) And responded: > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > we can often aim both forward and away from our > shoes. I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing that while in the standing position. What about splatter? Clay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 My husband has fairly good aim. He has never peed on the floor but sometimes where are small amounts of urine on the rim of the toilet. I have encouraged him to wipe off any such spillage but he frequently does not so when I clean the toilet I always have to scrub dried pee off the rim. Annoying, but not too bad. I've seen and heard about worse. Especially because I use men's restrooms a lot. If I try the door to a women's restroom and it is occupied, I immediately try the door of the men's. If it's open, I go in. Half the time I use it, the other half it is too fowl and I just wait. I've been known to have the following interaction: I go to the place where restrooms are. i see a woman standing there. I ask her, " Are you in line? " She says, " yes. " I try the door of the men's room. I say to her either, " I have an emergency, " or, " I just have to wash my hands. " Usually it is the latter because I wash my hands a lot, whenever I get something stick on them, or ink on them, or anything. I go in, usually use the sink and/or toilet, and then go back out. I think it's silly to wait when there is a perfectly good restroom I could use. On the other hand, I once went into a multi-stalled women's restroom at Red Lobster, noted tobacco in the air (some woman was smoking in the bathroom), went right back out and into the men's. I was rather horrified when I saw 3 men using the urinals! I said, " Sorry! Someone was smoking in them women's! " and used a stall and got out quickly. I now make sure that it is a one-stalled restroom with no urinals before I walk in! danielle strom wrote: please see the movie the full monty for a demonstration... I hear some women are more adept at this than others... for me I prefer everyone to sit to pee at my house, as I don't find that males of any age really have all that great of aim either... :-[ JMHO dani Clay wrote: > I wrote: > > > As for women, it should be obvious that, > > > if they were to compete in a pissing contest, > > > the only result would be soggy shoes. 8<) > > And responded: > > Obvious to someone with male anatomy, anyway. > > While we can't generally aim as well as men can, > > we can often aim both forward and away from our > > shoes. > > I'll have to take your word for that, as I haven't > seen, nor do I ever expect to see, any woman doing > that while in the standing position. What about > splatter? > > Clay > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Low-flow toilets are stupid. If there is any chance of salvaging the old one, do it. Or else try to find a used toilet someplace that is pre-low flow. I have seen some rather nice antique toilets in my lifetime. Some have very interesting flushing mechanisms. In Cincinnati, Ohio, there is a store called The Wooden Nickel, where they sell parts of old houses that had to be demolished, and in their restroom, they have the most unique antique flush-toilet I've ever seen. Probably no one else has any such interest. But the flushing mechanism was simply fascinating. But then, I've always been interested in flushing mechanisms. I used to try to get my mother to take the lid off the toilet tank so I could watch it flush. And I once replaced the mechanism in my sister's toilet for her, which is really quite easy and not the nightmare it sounds like. Most toilet repair can be done at home, for instance, replacing the wax seal under the toilet (the most common cause of leaks) or replacing the internal mechanisms. The most annoying is repairing chipped or stained toilet bowls, but it is quite doable. What is wrong that makes your toilet leak? Jane Meyerding wrote:Neil wrote: >On the subject of pissing, could someone explain who invented the North >American flush? Why does the water need to rise so high in the bowl? I had a plumber here a couple of weeks ago to give me an estimate on fixing a leak in the seldom-used toilet in the basement. He gave me an estimate for fixing the in-place toilet and for replacing the toilet. Although replacing would be about $20 cheaper, he said he recommended fixing the old (and I do mean old) one. All new toilets, he said, are required to be " low flow. " The ancient one that has been down there in the basement for ever is the old kind and does an efficient job of flushing out the equally ancient sewer connection. In other words, we on this side of the pond are in the process of switching over from the " high rise " toilets you observed here to a more modest low-flow variety. So far, I've chosen " none of the above, " preferring to live with the leak rather than spend almost 400 (!) dollars. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 << I go to the place where restrooms are. i see a woman standing there. I ask her, " Are you in line? " She says, " yes. " I try the door of the men's room. I say to her either, " I have an emergency, " or, " I just have to wash my hands. " Usually it is the latter because I wash my hands a lot, whenever I get something stick on them, or ink on them, or anything. I go in, usually use the sink and/or toilet, and then go back out. I think it's silly to wait when there is a perfectly good restroom I could use. On the other hand, I once went into a multi-stalled women's restroom at Red Lobster, noted tobacco in the air (some woman was smoking in the bathroom), went right back out and into the men's. I was rather horrified when I saw 3 men using the urinals! I said, " Sorry! Someone was smoking in them women's! " and used a stall and got out quickly. I now make sure that it is a one-stalled restroom with no urinals before I walk in! >> I have never understood the point of having separate restrooms like that. I tend to go into whichever one has the shorter line, or now that I use a wheelchair, whichever one has the wheelchair-accessible stall free. I once amused someone I was with by opening the door to the women's room, taking one look in, and going straight to the men's room. OTOH, I met someone who later became someone I hung out with, at a conference, because he was doing the same thing only he was in the wheelchair-accessible stall of the women's room. I had been supposed to meet him, and his aide was in there too, so she introduced us while we were in there. That was odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 nah wrote: >...What is wrong >that makes your toilet leak? There is a thick bent pipe between the tank and the bowl When the toilet is flushed, waterleaks out of the join in that pipe. The plumber said it was " rotten. " The reason for the expense is that modern toilets don't have that kind of pipe or the fittings for the pipe, so it would all have to e creted " by hand, " as it were. Since it only leaks (and not horrendously) when it flushes, I'm just letting it ride. A towel stays handy to mop up the bit of water, that's all. I think low-flow toilets are designed to save water. Saving water isn't silly. Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 All I have to add on this subject ... a few years ago at least, it was obvious that the builders of the Denver, Colorado airport expected only tall men to travel to or from the city -- in the rest rooms, the electric eyes to activate the urinals' automatic flush were a few inches above my head, so I didn't set them off when I used them. I'm not exactly a shrimp at 5'6 " . Doug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Jane Meyerding wrote: > I think low-flow toilets are designed to save water. Saving water > isn't silly. It is silly if you have to flush more than once to make waste go down, which might end up using more water than one of the old-style toilets that only have to flush once. Of course, liquid waste (or liquid waste and a small quantity of toilet paper) would not be subject to this. I personally have not found that to be the case-- the water-saving toilet in my apartment has never failed to make solid waste go away with one flush, and as someone that is physically quite large, I make commensurately large solid waste at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 Jane Meyerding wrote: > There is a thick bent pipe between the tank and the bowl When the > toilet is flushed, waterleaks out of the join in that pipe. The > plumber said it was " rotten. " The reason for the expense is that > modern toilets don't have that kind of pipe or the fittings for the > pipe, so it would all have to e creted " by hand, " as it were. I would use JB Weld on this if it were me. It is a steel-fortified epoxy, and it is great on things like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2003 Report Share Posted November 13, 2003 > the water-saving toilet > in my apartment has never failed to make solid waste go away with > one flush, and as someone that is physically quite large, I make > commensurately large solid waste at times. One of my more dubious claims to fame is being able to clog just about any toilet imaginable. I really wish there were *some* kind of toilet I was incapable of clogging (even the very high-pressure public toilets I have clogged on occasion). But I have not found one yet. (Then again, as someone who's managed to clog my own *intestines* a few times, this isn't surprising.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 I have used toilets in several countries and sorry to disappoint you, but European low-flow loos (our word for water closet) work best. I've only had to unclog one toilet in Italy. Over here, our upstairs loo is 21 years old, is used regularly by four people, is low-flow and has not clogged once. Either Americans expel larger amounts of solid waste in one session, or US loos are substandard. I've used quite a few domestic American toilets too, mainly on short visits between 1991-97 when my Dad lived in Virginia. We travelled a bit and entered a fair number of houses and cafes. I remember seeing lumps of faeces floating around the top of the bowl during the aggressive swirling motion. I think I once inadvertently flushed a toilet while still sitting on it (I do this occasionally to minimise stink after depositing the first batch). The water rose to soak the bottom of my shirt. Anyway most problems I've encountered in European-style WCs are easily solved by a toilet brush, moderate quantities of detergent, and very occasionally, a plunger. Neil Re: Re: Pissing contests > Low-flow toilets are stupid. If there is any chance of salvaging the old one, do it. Or else try to find a used toilet someplace that is pre-low flow. I have seen some rather nice antique toilets in my lifetime. Some have very interesting flushing mechanisms. In Cincinnati, Ohio, there is a store called The Wooden Nickel, where they sell parts of old houses that had to be demolished, and in their restroom, they have the most unique antique flush-toilet I've ever seen. Probably no one else has any such interest. But the flushing mechanism was simply fascinating. But then, I've always been interested in flushing mechanisms. I used to try to get my mother to take the lid off the toilet tank so I could watch it flush. And I once replaced the mechanism in my sister's toilet for her, which is really quite easy and not the nightmare it sounds like. Most toilet repair can be done at home, for instance, replacing the wax seal under the toilet (the most common cause of leaks) or > replacing the internal mechanisms. The most annoying is repairing chipped or stained toilet bowls, but it is quite doable. What is wrong that makes your toilet leak? > > Jane Meyerding wrote:Neil wrote: > >On the subject of pissing, could someone explain who invented the North > >American flush? Why does the water need to rise so high in the bowl? > > I had a plumber here a couple of weeks ago to give me an estimate > on fixing a leak in the seldom-used toilet in the basement. He gave > me an estimate for fixing the in-place toilet and for replacing the > toilet. Although replacing would be about $20 cheaper, he said he > recommended fixing the old (and I do mean old) one. All new > toilets, he said, are required to be " low flow. " The ancient one > that has been down there in the basement for ever is the old kind > and does an efficient job of flushing out the equally ancient > sewer connection. > > In other words, we on this side of the pond are in the process of > switching over from the " high rise " toilets you observed here to > a more modest low-flow variety. > > So far, I've chosen " none of the above, " preferring to live with > the leak rather than spend almost 400 (!) dollars. > > Jane > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 > Either Americans expel larger amounts of solid waste in one > session, or US loos are substandard. To correct what seems to be a misconception in this thread, size of solid waste is only one potential factor in clogging toilets. *Texture* is another extremely important factor -- a large sticky turd has more of a chance of clogging a toilet than a large loose turd, for instance. (Hence my father's term " Glue-poo " .) , who's unfortunately become somewhat of an expert on what kinds of solid waste clog toilets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 GF/CF diets can help with cutting down the amount of " poo-glue. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2003 Report Share Posted November 14, 2003 > GF/CF diets can help with cutting down the amount of " poo-glue. " Only if you're allergic or intolerant to gluten and/or casein, which I'm not. I was allergic to milk as a small child, and am not anymore (and removing or adding dairy to my diet has little effect on that sort of thing). I have been put on all kinds of diets (including some specifically intended to get rid of glue-poo, as well as gf/cf and several miscellaneous quackery-induced diets), and the only thing that has ever worked for that is stool softeners. Other diets work when there's a legitimate health problem caused or exacerbated by certain foods, but there is no food or exercise I can add or remove that does much about glue-poo (reflux, gastritis, and gallbladder issues, yes; glue-poo, no). I find it disturbing that gf/cf is seen as the answer to every digestive issue in an autistic person. My digestive system may hate *me*, but it doesn't harbor any particular enmity toward gluten or casein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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