Guest guest Posted January 29, 2001 Report Share Posted January 29, 2001 Hi, I don't have access to my old messages right now, but I was recently given some info that might help a few of the families here. I hope I get everyone's name correct -- in one family, the mom is Tina and her son is Mike (a teenager), I think. This is also for 's mom, , because I remember you asked about how people know they have aseptic meningitis from IVIG rather than something else. And I didn't know if it might help with 's reactions, too. Sue W., I know your boys are off IVIG, but I thought of you with this, as well, in case you ever have to put them back on IVIG. This'll be sort of long-winded (when am I not?!), but hopefully it'll have something useful in here somewhere! Tina, you recently wrote in saying you weren't sure what to do about the IVIG situation, because of your son's massive reactions.... I have never had predicable reactions to my IVIG until three months ago (in fact, always considered myself very lucky!), and now each month for the last three, I've developed aseptic meningitis (103 fever, stiff neck, photophobia, *extreme* headache, and desire to do nothing but lie down in my dark room with no lights, no TV, no music, nothin'). I'm very lucky that my docs are great about it -- I had my first case of this two years ago, then one more time about a year later, and now three times in a row. The first time, on the spinal tap, there was definitely pleocytosis (predomantly lymphocytes), so we went through all the precautions -- cultures, hospitalization in isolation, IV antibiotics, etc., until the cultures came back negative. Since then, they know that if I have these symptoms within close proximity of the IVIG, they are okay with me staying home with pain meds, IV fluids, and my roommates checking in on me every once in a while to make sure that I'm mostly lucid (as lucid as you can be on IV pain meds!). We know that the reaction tends to start almost EXACTLY 48 hours after the infusion ends... it's sort of eerie how alike each episode has been.... so as long as we tie it to the infusion time-wise and there are no other symptoms, they're good about letting me handle it. I tell you all this because my internist and I talked to my immunologist today about how to prevent this in the future. I can only take Gammagard because I've got anti-IgA antibodies and have anaphylaxed to blood products with IgA in them. I've never had a " reaction " (in the sense of an allergic or anaphylactic reaction) to Gammagard, so we are very comfortable using it. But it also means that I have to figure out how to prevent the aseptic meningitis, since I don't have any other options in the way of switching brands or anything. So I talked to the immuno, and he devised a premedication protocol, loosely based on the way they pre-treat people for IV contrast allergies. I used to take 50mg IV Benadryl and 50mg IV hydrocortisone, and 1000mg Tylenol before the infusions. (These doses are based on my body size, so they're not right for everyone, but my guess is that Tina's son is about my size). Well, since those aren't cutting it, they said that at 13, 7, and 1 hour before the infusion, I need to take 50mg oral Prednisone. An hour before the infusion, I should take 150mg of Zantac (an H2 blocker, functions as another antihistamine), 50mg IV Benadryl, 1000mg of Tylenol. Then about halfway through, another 25mg IV Benadryl. They said that fluids haven't been proven to help in any scientific way, but that they wouldn't hurt, so we're going to do IV fluids. My old infusion schedule was that I got 30g in 600ml fluid. Started at 30ml/hr x 15min, 60mg/hr x 15min, 120ml/hr x 15min, 180ml/hr x 15min, and 240ml/hr for the rest. It took about 3.5 hours. Now, I'm not allowed to go over 120, and we may have to slow it down more. Not sure what you were doing in the way of pre-meds, but thought I'd share those tips. I won't know for another few weeks if they work, but I'm hoping they will! , I wasn't sure if something like this (particularly the steroids before, and the Zantac) might help avoid hives for . , I know you had asked about the meningitis thing, and I was really sick at the time and couldn't write in. I know that must be terrifying for you, since you've been through the bacterial kind before. I've also had both bacterial meningitis and viral meningitis, as well as viral encephalitis. I think the key is to make sure it's nothing but aseptic meningitis the first time it happens (if it does -- my immuno's comment is, " we know that it happens, and we know that some people tend to get it over and over, where other people never get it at all.... but we're not smart enough to tell you ahead of time who, and after the fact, why. " ). There are some studies that show that people with migraines are more likely to have the IVIG reaction, and they think it may have something to do with surface proteins on the meninges. But I've never had a migraine, so I don't fit into that neat little category. Anyway, the key (in my mind, anyway) would be to react with your usual level of caution and seriousness if it happens a first time, until you can reassure yourself that it's only from the IVIG (which they can tell on the LP because with bacterial, you'd expect a predominance of neutrophils and a pussy appearance, and with viral, you'd expect a mixture, with a predominance of lymphs and generally a pretty clear appearance). Then if it happens again after the IVIG and follows the predictable pattern of time, symptoms, etc, you can tell if it's related to it, time-wise. I have a port, and I do all my meds at home, plus accessing and dressing changes, so when this happens, my doctor calls the homecare company, they drop off IV fluids, pain meds, and anti-nausea meds (to go with the pain meds, since they make me puke). It's harder to take care of at home without a port, but could be done, I suppose. Just wanted to let you know that it's pretty easy to figure out if it's related to the IVIG or not, because most everyone I've spoken with about this says their reactions are very similar each time, and then it's not something where - if IVIG induced - you *have* to go into the hospital every time for three or four days (unless you want to for pain meds). I'm actually two days into the aseptic meningitis thing right now, and I'm lying in my bed with my laptop in my lap, with the lights off and the screen brightness turned down. I have an exam later this week, so I told myself I'd study... hmmmm... seems I've got an A in procrastination, but at this rate, I'm going to get an F in Endocrinology! :-) Anyway, this turned out much longer than I had planned... hope some of it helps someone! Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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