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Hi, Debbie. (((you)))

It can get worse, but that doesn't necessarily mean it will. And if

it does. . You will deal with it, because you have no choice. We

never know what we can deal with, until we are forced to, . .Then when

you get the chance to look back at it, you are amazed at the strength

you had. When you have no choice, you do what you have to. Sadly, I

say that from experience.

I think it's absolutely awesome that your little one understands.

Bless her heart. Kid's can be so forgiving, and often understand

things well, if we explain it, like you are doing.

It's okay to have a pity party sometimes. We all do occasionally.

When you have a child with OCD, it is not an easy road. There's going

to be bad days. The group is here for you.

Has your daughter started her therapy yet? I know the therapist is

working with another, who is coaching her. Have they started on the

ERP yet? Our son did not get better on meds alone. He needed the ERP

too. Once he started, we had to be patient and wait for him to work

his way up to some of the tougher things, which coincidentally, were

also the most annoying. lol It sounds like she is going to need both

(meds and therapy) to get some of her stuff under control.

I hate the bad days. I try to remind myself to take one day at a

time, to keep my sanity. And when we hit a bad patch, I try to remind

myself that it will get better. . It has before. I guess, we need to

do some self talk too. lol Try to find a few minutes for yourself,

to just breath, when things get tough. That always helped me to regroup.

Hang in there, Debbie.

BJ

>

> What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going just

fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We had our 504

meeting with 's teachers yesterday and it went exceedingly

well; all the teachers and the principal seemed ready and willing to

do whatever needed to be done to help her succeed in school.

> Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared and Jess

was left completely on her own, she'd be happy as a clam! My 5-yr old

walked into her room because I was in there and you'd have thought the

biggest germ had just waltzed into Jess's room spraying

" contamination " all over the place! She practically shoved her out of

the room, at which point I handled it badly and got emotional at the

way she was treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her

room, Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh, mom's going all

emotional on me! " WHAT?????? WHO'S the emotional one here???!!!

Geeez! It really concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love " us,

especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's going to damage her

relationship with them beyond repair.

> When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you know that

Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a hard time right now

with touching people " . You know what she said? " I know Sissy loves

me in her heart, Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin

is adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability to

empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond her years and says

she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a psychologist that

specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just never know.

> And I still keep waiting to see " something " with this darn Zoloft!

I hate to think we've wasted the last 6 weeks if this isn't going to

help; I mean other than some mood improvement, I've seen very little

improvement in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

I'm sick of keeping this false " everything's going to be ok " face on,

when what if it's not??!! I feel like in addition to trying to help

, I have to protect her brother and sister from the fallout,

keep the house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on and

on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking myself because

I haven't even been through a TENTH of what some of you have dealt

with, so what right do I have to whine anyway? I'm just so afraid

it's going to get WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go with all these

emotions but here.

> Debbie

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Debbie, I agree with you the inconsistentcy of dealing with OCD and can never

let

            your guard down no matter how much we think it is under control.

            I likewise have been concerned with medications wondering whether

            it works and the emotional roller coaster with behaviours that fall

from

            the sky and we wonder now what.   If it is any help  I have come to

realize

            that each antidepressent is different in its chemical makeup and how

long

            it stays in the system somewhat like firing up the necessary parts

of

            the brain on an ongoing basis, other antidepressents only last for a

few hours

            and dont stay in the system until the next dosage.  Their should be

a manual

            of questions put together in asking the doctor before they recommend

a drug

           all the whys and why not everything from side effects, the chemical

origin how

           it processes and the endurance etc, etc.  Then us parents could be

more

            educated working with this process.  Zoloft was the first drug tried

on my

            son ten years ago and it only made him more agressive.  

I understand

            your pain.     

Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

To:

Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going just fine and one

little thing blows it up in my face?! We had our 504 meeting with 's

teachers yesterday and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to be done to help her

succeed in school.

Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared and Jess was left

completely on her own, she'd be happy as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her

room because I was in there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

waltzed into Jess's room spraying " contamination " all over the place! She

practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I handled it badly and

got emotional at the way she was treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out

of her room, Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh, mom's going all

emotional on me! " WHAT?????? WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love " us, especially her siblings. I'm so

concerned she's going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you know that Sissy loves you

very much; she's just having a hard time right now with touching people " . You

know what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart, Mommy " . Guess what, I

got emotional again. Jazmin is adopted from China and has always seemed to have

an ability to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond her years and

says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a psychologist that specializes in

OCD, perhaps? You just never know.

And I still keep waiting to see " something " with this darn Zoloft! I hate to

think we've wasted the last 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other

than some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement in the OCD

symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and I'm sick of keeping this false

" everything' s going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!! I feel like in

addition to trying to help , I have to protect her brother and sister

from the fallout, keep the house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep

going, on and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking myself because I haven't

even been through a TENTH of what some of you have dealt with, so what right do

I have to whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get WORSE and I don't

know if I can deal with WORSE!

Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go with all these emotions but

here.

Debbie

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Hi Debbie, and other moms,

Our experience with the Zoloft (my son takes the generic form,

Setraline) is that it seemed to take FOREVER to " kick in " -

I remember months and months and months of waiting for

things to turn around, and wondering if the doctor really knew

what he was doing :) THankfully, it did kick in, and made

an incredible difference, and the doctor DID know what he was doing.

I remember wondering what we were supposed to do while we waited

for the medicine to kick in. You really have to be just like

a recovering alcoholic/drug addict and constantly

" work the program " . And I mean YOU- not focusing on your child-

YOU. YOU have to find the way to get your rest, stay patient

and hopeful, the way to NOT add anxiety to their anxiety...

you absolutely have to stay hopeful. There IS hope. Things WILL

get better. Yes, they might very well get worse first,

but they WILL get better.

Sometimes I think we as trying-to-cope moms are more damaging

to our kids than the OCD is!!! We have to figure out how to cope,

and be pro-active, not re-active. You can do it, I know you can.

Don't walk around seeing OCD behind every corner :) You can be

as much the one to keep the OCD around as your child is!

Be sure to think of your child separate from having OCD

and connect with that child you know is in there.

I am praying for you. You will see the strength in prayer,

and be renewed. We are here for you,

Love,

Marcia in Nashville

>

> From: deborahcavender@...

>

> Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> To:

> Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

> What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> be done to help her succeed in school.

> Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> " contamination " all over the place! She

> practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> never know.

> And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> with all these emotions but here.

> Debbie

>

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Very well put, Marcia.

BJ

> >

> > From: deborahcavender@...

> >

> > Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> > To:

> > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > never know.

> > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > with all these emotions but here.

> > Debbie

> >

> >

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I am also a mother that has a 13 year old son suffering with severe

ocd. I saw it when he was 2. Many rituals. We found a wonderful

theapist for him when he was 10,he went for a year & it was

amazing.He taught him how to deal with his ocd without any

meds.However in Aug.out of no where he got a thought he couldnt get

rid of & it was making him crazy... He started having severe anxiety

& panic attacks. He ended up in the hospital for 3 days & then going

to a partial school program for 2 weeks. He has been on 150mg of

zoloft for 9 weeks...we are still waiting for it to work. It is so

hard to see your child suffer & there is nothing you can do. As of

Sat. I told myself I was going to forge ahead!! I can not let him see

me upset. Take care all you wonderful mothers!!

> >

> > From: deborahcavender@...

> >

> > Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> > To:

> > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > never know.

> > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > with all these emotions but here.

> > Debbie

> >

> >

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, I'm so sorry he took such a bad turn for the worst. I'm glad

he is out of the hospital. You said you are waiting for the

medication to work. How is he coping now, while you are waiting? I

pray it works soon. Is he back in therapy?

Hugs,

BJ

> > >

> > > From: deborahcavender@

> > > <deborahcavender@>

> > > Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> > > To:

> > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > > never know.

> > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > > in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > > with all these emotions but here.

> > > Debbie

> > >

> > >

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Hi and Debbie -- it's hard waiting to see if a medication will

help or not, but unless there's undesirable side effects you just

have to stick it out a few weeks...12 is the recommended wait by most

I believe. I know when started Celexa it was really about

the 16th week it seemed to kick in good, and another on Celexa said

it was about that time for them too. Maybe Zoloft will work faster!

But if you think about it, those first weeks are just getting " up to "

a therapeutic dose.

, my 19 yr old now has the thoughts too, refuses meds. He began

with rituals/compulsions too, in 6th grade.

Debbie, so sorry your little one is on the " receiving end " of OCD but

she sure is handling it well! All my sons were at least middle

school age when OCD began, I have to imagine how I'd word it to a

younger child about her sister being " sick. " Knowing me, I'd be

finding the younger kids books about OCD; seems I always ran to the

library when I had to explain things to my sons when young!

(((hugs))) to you both and keep us updated!

>

> I am also a mother that has a 13 year old son suffering with severe

> ocd. I saw it when he was 2. Many rituals. We found a wonderful

> theapist for him when he was 10,he went for a year & it was

> amazing.He taught him how to deal with his ocd without any

> meds.However in Aug.out of no where he got a thought he couldnt get

> rid of & it was making him crazy... He started having severe

anxiety

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BJ, yes we still see the same therapist once a week. We feel very

blessed that he has been with Jordan & his ocd from the start.My son

really likes him & so do we.As far as coping, we take one day at a

time or one minute at a time. He takes ativan 2 times a day for the

anxiety & to help deal with his thought.He will soon have to stop

because it is addictive.My husband also has ocd.It is not nearly as

bad. He is checker & counter. He has asked my son to help him with

his ocd. They read the Brain Lock together & help each other. thanks

for the hugs!! In , " svdbyhislove "

wrote:

>

> , I'm so sorry he took such a bad turn for the worst. I'm glad

> he is out of the hospital. You said you are waiting for the

> medication to work. How is he coping now, while you are waiting? I

> pray it works soon. Is he back in therapy?

>

> Hugs,

> BJ

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > From: deborahcavender@

> > > > <deborahcavender@>

> > > > Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> > > > To:

> > > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > > > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > > > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > > > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > > > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > > > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > > > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > > > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > > > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > > > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > > > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > > > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > > > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > > > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > > > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > > > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > > > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > > > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > > > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > > > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > > > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > > > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > > > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > > > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > > > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > > > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > > > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > > > never know.

> > > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > > > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > > > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > > > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > > > in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > > > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > > > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > > > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > > > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > > > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > > > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > > > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > > > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > > > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > > > with all these emotions but here.

> > > > Debbie

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I'm whining right along with you. Actually I think I'm losing my mind. I have

been working

so hard to try to get my seven year old's teacher to understnd anxiety and ocd.

Nothing

works. She sees the symptoms but doesn't attribute them to anxiety. She says

he just

doesn't want to pay attention or that he's just trying to get attention. She

read his psych

report and said, " It seems funny to me. I don't see any of this. " Yet he gets

in trouble every

day for ocd behavior. I'm exhausted with it, then on top of that he comes home

and is so

hard to handle and calls me names and I just can't believe I have to deal with

this from a

seven year old. I feel so overwhelmed and like a bad mom for just losing with

him after

hours of trying to get him to do the simplest homework. I wish I could always

remain

calm for him, but it doesn't always happen. Thanks for listening.

> >

> > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going just

> fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We had our 504

> meeting with 's teachers yesterday and it went exceedingly

> well; all the teachers and the principal seemed ready and willing to

> do whatever needed to be done to help her succeed in school.

> > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared and Jess

> was left completely on her own, she'd be happy as a clam! My 5-yr old

> walked into her room because I was in there and you'd have thought the

> biggest germ had just waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> " contamination " all over the place! She practically shoved her out of

> the room, at which point I handled it badly and got emotional at the

> way she was treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her

> room, Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh, mom's going all

> emotional on me! " WHAT?????? WHO'S the emotional one here???!!!

> Geeez! It really concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love " us,

> especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's going to damage her

> relationship with them beyond repair.

> > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you know that

> Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a hard time right now

> with touching people " . You know what she said? " I know Sissy loves

> me in her heart, Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin

> is adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability to

> empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond her years and says

> she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a psychologist that

> specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just never know.

> > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with this darn Zoloft!

> I hate to think we've wasted the last 6 weeks if this isn't going to

> help; I mean other than some mood improvement, I've seen very little

> improvement in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> I'm sick of keeping this false " everything's going to be ok " face on,

> when what if it's not??!! I feel like in addition to trying to help

> , I have to protect her brother and sister from the fallout,

> keep the house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on and

> on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking myself because

> I haven't even been through a TENTH of what some of you have dealt

> with, so what right do I have to whine anyway? I'm just so afraid

> it's going to get WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go with all these

> emotions but here.

> > Debbie

> >

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Thank you Chris! Life is so fast that it seems so hard to sit & wait

for medication to work.We are not use to waiting.Do you know what I

mean? And I was never going to use meds. Boy can I swallow them

words!

> >

> > I am also a mother that has a 13 year old son suffering with

severe

> > ocd. I saw it when he was 2. Many rituals. We found a wonderful

> > theapist for him when he was 10,he went for a year & it was

> > amazing.He taught him how to deal with his ocd without any

> > meds.However in Aug.out of no where he got a thought he couldnt

get

> > rid of & it was making him crazy... He started having severe

> anxiety

>

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Hi Debbie,

I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry that you are going through

this and I have been where you are!! This board is such a fabulous

source of support and I don't think I could have made it through the

rough times without it. The advice, suggestions and most of all the

support on here has been invaluable.

My DD (who is 9 and was diagnosed with OCD at age 4) had her OCD

flare up at the beginning of the school year. She was hysterical

about going to school and we could barely get her out of the car and

into the school. It was a nightmare. At home, she would just cry

and count down the hours until school. I felt like we were in the

house in the Wizard of Oz - just spinning out of control.

Well...my DD is now making straight As in school, got chosen as 1 of

only 2 children in 4th grade for Honor's Chorus and is thriving at

school. She goes into school early to meet with her old teacher from

last year who has been a huge source of support to her (I used to

have to fight him to convince him that she had OCD - he's seen it

firsthand now and has come through for her with flying colors). She

is a " helper " in his class before school which has helped her self

esteem and confidence. I tell you this to let you know that this

will pass. A few months ago, I never would have dreamed that we

would be at this point. I also feel like I have to keep my guard up

for the next OCD flare. But in the meantime, I try to cherish these

positive moments. I feel like the OCD really makes us appreciate

these positive moments so much more.

Anyway, I just want to say that we are here for you and thinking of

you and hoping that it gets better very soon.

Anne

PS We also have a younger daughter who is 4 1/2 and is adopted from

China!!

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Oh, Anne, that is such great news. I remember how her OCD flared and

she was struggling. I'm so glad to not only hear she is doing better,

but thriving.

I totally agree, you have to cherish the positive moments.

Thanks for sharing. It's such an encouragement to hear the stories of

success.

BJ

>

> Hi Debbie,

>

> I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry that you are going through

> this and I have been where you are!! This board is such a fabulous

> source of support and I don't think I could have made it through the

> rough times without it. The advice, suggestions and most of all the

> support on here has been invaluable.

>

> My DD (who is 9 and was diagnosed with OCD at age 4) had her OCD

> flare up at the beginning of the school year. She was hysterical

> about going to school and we could barely get her out of the car and

> into the school. It was a nightmare. At home, she would just cry

> and count down the hours until school. I felt like we were in the

> house in the Wizard of Oz - just spinning out of control.

>

> Well...my DD is now making straight As in school, got chosen as 1 of

> only 2 children in 4th grade for Honor's Chorus and is thriving at

> school. She goes into school early to meet with her old teacher from

> last year who has been a huge source of support to her (I used to

> have to fight him to convince him that she had OCD - he's seen it

> firsthand now and has come through for her with flying colors). She

> is a " helper " in his class before school which has helped her self

> esteem and confidence. I tell you this to let you know that this

> will pass. A few months ago, I never would have dreamed that we

> would be at this point. I also feel like I have to keep my guard up

> for the next OCD flare. But in the meantime, I try to cherish these

> positive moments. I feel like the OCD really makes us appreciate

> these positive moments so much more.

>

> Anyway, I just want to say that we are here for you and thinking of

> you and hoping that it gets better very soon.

>

> Anne

>

> PS We also have a younger daughter who is 4 1/2 and is adopted from

> China!!

>

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The doctor isn't going to take him off of the Ativan until the Zoloft

has a chance to work though, right, ?

There is the potential for it to become addictive and/or you can

become dependent upon it. All benzodiazapines have that potential.

But, if it's needed, it's needed. So I hope they aren't in too big of

a hurry.

I had that experience with Klonipin when I was taking it for panic

attacks. It was incredibly hard to come off of in the time frame the

docs wanted. It took me much longer than the few weeks they wanted.

But, I was unable to tolerate antidepressants, which would have

helped. And, not everyone will have that experience with

benzodiazapines either. Our son took Klonipin, as needed, while

waiting for his Celexa to work, and had no problem giving them up. I

hope that is the case with your son too.

I'm so glad you have a good therapist. I hope you see some

improvement soon. All we can do is live moment to moment when things

are bad. But, it's sure a relief when they start to improve.

BJ

> > > > >

> > > > > From: deborahcavender@

> > > > > <deborahcavender@>

> > > > > Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> > > > > To:

> > > > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > > > > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > > > > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > > > > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > > > > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > > > > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > > > > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > > > > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > > > > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > > > > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > > > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > > > > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > > > > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > > > > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > > > > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > > > > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > > > > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > > > > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > > > > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > > > > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > > > > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > > > > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > > > > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > > > > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > > > > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > > > > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > > > > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > > > > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > > > > never know.

> > > > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > > > > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > > > > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > > > > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > > > > in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > > > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > > > > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > > > > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > > > > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > > > > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > > > > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > > > > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > > > > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > > > > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > > > > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > > > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > > > > with all these emotions but here.

> > > > > Debbie

> > > > >

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It doesn't sound like the teacher understands OCD, at all. And,

possibly is unwilling to learn too, since she doesn't believe what

you've been telling her, or the psych report. Do you have any plan in

place to help your son at school? Can the doctor talk to the teacher,

personally? Maybe that would help.

It makes me a bit angry for your son, because our OCD kids already

have so much to deal with. They don't need to be in a situation where

they are being judged or punished because someone thinks they are

trying to get attention, or not paying attention, rather than

recognizing it's OCD.

I know I haven't always remained calm when dealing with our son's OCD,

so I think you are not alone in that. One thing that has helped me

quite a bit is to try to always keep in perspective that it's the OCD

at work, and our son is at it's mercy. It can be trying at times,

especially when we are tired though.

BJ

> > >

> > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going just

> > fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We had our 504

> > meeting with 's teachers yesterday and it went exceedingly

> > well; all the teachers and the principal seemed ready and willing to

> > do whatever needed to be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared and Jess

> > was left completely on her own, she'd be happy as a clam! My 5-yr old

> > walked into her room because I was in there and you'd have thought the

> > biggest germ had just waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > " contamination " all over the place! She practically shoved her out of

> > the room, at which point I handled it badly and got emotional at the

> > way she was treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her

> > room, Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh, mom's going all

> > emotional on me! " WHAT?????? WHO'S the emotional one here???!!!

> > Geeez! It really concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love " us,

> > especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's going to damage her

> > relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you know that

> > Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a hard time right now

> > with touching people " . You know what she said? " I know Sissy loves

> > me in her heart, Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin

> > is adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability to

> > empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond her years and says

> > she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a psychologist that

> > specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just never know.

> > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with this darn Zoloft!

> > I hate to think we've wasted the last 6 weeks if this isn't going to

> > help; I mean other than some mood improvement, I've seen very little

> > improvement in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything's going to be ok " face on,

> > when what if it's not??!! I feel like in addition to trying to help

> > , I have to protect her brother and sister from the fallout,

> > keep the house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on and

> > on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking myself because

> > I haven't even been through a TENTH of what some of you have dealt

> > with, so what right do I have to whine anyway? I'm just so afraid

> > it's going to get WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go with all these

> > emotions but here.

> > > Debbie

> > >

> > >

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---Thanks for writing me back BJ. My sons psychologist will be speaking to the

teacher.

He does not yet have a 504 plan and the school is hesitant to make one. I guess

I'll just

have to wait and see if the teacher responds well to the psychologist. Does OCD

make

kids especially angry? Sometimes I just don't know what I'm dealing with, OCD

or just bad

behavior, and either way I don't know how to correct him sometimes. Any advice?

He is

only seven, but his IQ is really high so sometimes he's more like dealing with a

9 year old

or more! It is so confusing. Thanks.

, " svdbyhislove " wrote:

>

> It doesn't sound like the teacher understands OCD, at all. And,

> possibly is unwilling to learn too, since she doesn't believe what

> you've been telling her, or the psych report. Do you have any plan in

> place to help your son at school? Can the doctor talk to the teacher,

> personally? Maybe that would help.

>

> It makes me a bit angry for your son, because our OCD kids already

> have so much to deal with. They don't need to be in a situation where

> they are being judged or punished because someone thinks they are

> trying to get attention, or not paying attention, rather than

> recognizing it's OCD.

>

> I know I haven't always remained calm when dealing with our son's OCD,

> so I think you are not alone in that. One thing that has helped me

> quite a bit is to try to always keep in perspective that it's the OCD

> at work, and our son is at it's mercy. It can be trying at times,

> especially when we are tired though.

>

> BJ

>

>

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going just

> > > fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We had our 504

> > > meeting with 's teachers yesterday and it went exceedingly

> > > well; all the teachers and the principal seemed ready and willing to

> > > do whatever needed to be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared and Jess

> > > was left completely on her own, she'd be happy as a clam! My 5-yr old

> > > walked into her room because I was in there and you'd have thought the

> > > biggest germ had just waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > " contamination " all over the place! She practically shoved her out of

> > > the room, at which point I handled it badly and got emotional at the

> > > way she was treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her

> > > room, Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh, mom's going all

> > > emotional on me! " WHAT?????? WHO'S the emotional one here???!!!

> > > Geeez! It really concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love " us,

> > > especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's going to damage her

> > > relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you know that

> > > Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a hard time right now

> > > with touching people " . You know what she said? " I know Sissy loves

> > > me in her heart, Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin

> > > is adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability to

> > > empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond her years and says

> > > she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a psychologist that

> > > specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just never know.

> > > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with this darn Zoloft!

> > > I hate to think we've wasted the last 6 weeks if this isn't going to

> > > help; I mean other than some mood improvement, I've seen very little

> > > improvement in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything's going to be ok " face on,

> > > when what if it's not??!! I feel like in addition to trying to help

> > > , I have to protect her brother and sister from the fallout,

> > > keep the house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on and

> > > on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking myself because

> > > I haven't even been through a TENTH of what some of you have dealt

> > > with, so what right do I have to whine anyway? I'm just so afraid

> > > it's going to get WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go with all these

> > > emotions but here.

> > > > Debbie

> > > >

> > > >

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Hi Bj, you are right,the doc. will wait until he is a little more

stable & then wean him off. Do you think the zoloft can cause kids to

have bad behavior? My son seems a little out of control sometimes.Or

if it is the ocd & he does not now what to do with himself,so he is

acts up. thanks,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: deborahcavender@

> > > > > > <deborahcavender@>

> > > > > > Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> > > > > > To:

> > > > > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be

going

> > > > > > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > > > > > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > > > > > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > > > > > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed

to

> > > > > > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > > > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > > > > > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > > > > > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was

in

> > > > > > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > > > > > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > > > > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > > > > > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > > > > > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > > > > > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > > > > > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > > > > > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > > > > > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > > > > > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > > > > > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > > > > > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > > > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > > > > > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > > > > > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > > > > > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > > > > > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > > > > > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an

ability

> > > > > > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > > > > > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe

a

> > > > > > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > > > > > never know.

> > > > > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > > > > > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > > > > > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > > > > > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > > > > > in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > > > > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > > > > > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > > > > > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have

to

> > > > > > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > > > > > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > > > > > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > > > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > > > > > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > > > > > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have

to

> > > > > > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > > > > > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > > > > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > > > > > with all these emotions but here.

> > > > > > Debbie

> > > > > >

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My daughter is on her second medication, celexa didn't work and now we are

trying prozac. I still don't see any changes after 4 weeks. The questions still

are coming everytime she leaves my side and especially at bedtime. We are trying

to work with her on cutting down the questions but she is not having it.

Sometimes I really feel like she is doing it for attention and just to drive me

crazy. I know this sounds harsh but it isn't till I lose my cool that she stops

as night. Why is that?  My blood pressure is soaring and I am at a point where I

dread the evenings because this is all going to happen again. Even her sister (

who overcame OCD herself) can't take it anymore

I'm whining - long, sorry

> > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > never know.

> > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > in the OCD symptoms.. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > with all these emotions but here.

> > Debbie

> >

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Four weeks probably isn't long enough for it to work for OCD, plus she may not

be on the proper dose yet.  How is the psychologist telling you to handle it?

Re: Re: I'm whining - long, sorry

My daughter is on her second medication, celexa didn't work and now we are

trying prozac. I still don't see any changes after 4 weeks. The questions still

are coming everytime she leaves my side and especially at bedtime. We are trying

to work with her on cutting down the questions but she is not having it.

Sometimes I really feel like she is doing it for attention and just to drive me

crazy. I know this sounds harsh but it isn't till I lose my cool that she stops

as night. Why is that?  My blood pressure is soaring and I am at a point where

I dread the evenings because this is all going to happen again. Even her sister

( who overcame OCD herself) can't take it anymore

I'm whining - long, sorry

> > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday0A

> > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > to empathize with others' feelings in a way f

ar beyond

> > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > never know.

> > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > in the OCD symptoms.. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > with all these emotions but here.

> > Debbie

> >

> >

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> > _________ _

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My son was the same way and he stopped when I would lose my cool because I think

that kind of snaps them out of the cycle.

in TN

Subject: Re: Re: I'm whining - long, sorry

To:

Date: Wednesday, October 22, 2008, 9:15 AM

Four weeks probably isn't long enough for it to work for OCD, plus she may not

be on the proper dose yet.  How is the psychologist telling you to handle it?

Re: Re: I'm whining - long, sorry

My daughter is on her second medication, celexa didn't work and now we are

trying prozac. I still don't see any changes after 4 weeks. The questions still

are coming everytime she leaves my side and especially at bedtime. We are trying

to work with her on cutting down the questions but she is not having it.

Sometimes I really feel like she is doing it for attention and just to drive me

crazy. I know this sounds harsh but it isn't till I lose my cool that she stops

as night. Why is that?  My blood pressure is soaring and I am at a point where I

dread the evenings because this is all going to happen again. Even her sister (

who overcame OCD herself) can't take it anymore

I'm whining - long, sorry

> > To: @ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going

> > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday0A

> > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed to

> > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was in

> > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability

> > to empathize with others' feelings in a way f

ar beyond

> > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a

> > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > never know.

> > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > in the OCD symptoms.. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have to

> > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have to

> > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > with all these emotions but here.

> > Debbie

> >

> >

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Laurie,

Perhaps her dose of Prozac isn't high enough yet, or she hasn't been on

it long enough. When my DD was 8, she ramped up to 30 mgs. Prozac and

we didn't see an effect until around the 6 week mark and then she

steadily improved until the 12 week mark. She has had to have increases

since then and is now doing great on 60 mgs.

HTH,

Dina

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, I'm glad to hear the psychologist will be speaking to the

teacher. Hopefully, that will help.

It can be hard, sometimes, to figure out what is OCD and what is

typical childhood behavior. And when you add meds, it can muddy it up

even more, because sometimes meds cause behaviors too. I know our son

got pretty spacey on his meds, both times, at first.

OCD can cause bad behavior. When they are doing what the OCD wants so

they can try to feel less anxious, then we refuse to go along, it can

cause anger, frustration, and sometimes even meltdowns. When our son

was 7, he needed his socks to feel " just right " in his shoes. It

would take him a half an hour to get his shoes on. He would meltdown

and starting hitting his feet, in his shoes, out of sheer frustration.

When our son started doing ERP, which wasn't until he was 14?, 15?, HE

was the one fighting it, rather than me refusing to go along (although

that was part of the plan), so he was less inclined to be frustrated.

I suspect that is because it was his choice to fight it, rather than

someone refusing to accommodate OCD and him feeling like it was him

against someone. Hope that made sense. Despite it being his choice,

he would literally groan out loud as he was fighting it. I guess it

just goes to show how much power OCD can have over them.

What does your son's therapist think about his behavior. Has he tried

to break it down to see if it's OCD related? If so, maybe you could

fashion some ERP to bring the level down, or even eliminate it.

Our son has always been exceptionally bright too. When he was in

school (we've homeschooled for 10 years now), he was not challenged at

all. He would get his stuff done, then visit with his neighbor,

because he was bored. That got him in trouble at school. He was 7

when we pulled him out and started homeschooling. That worked great

for him, because he was able to work at his own pace, which was

accelerated.

BJ

> > > > >

> > > > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going just

> > > > fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We had our 504

> > > > meeting with 's teachers yesterday and it went exceedingly

> > > > well; all the teachers and the principal seemed ready and

willing to

> > > > do whatever needed to be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared and

Jess

> > > > was left completely on her own, she'd be happy as a clam! My

5-yr old

> > > > walked into her room because I was in there and you'd have

thought the

> > > > biggest germ had just waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > > " contamination " all over the place! She practically shoved

her out of

> > > > the room, at which point I handled it badly and got emotional

at the

> > > > way she was treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her

> > > > room, Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh, mom's going all

> > > > emotional on me! " WHAT?????? WHO'S the emotional one here???!!!

> > > > Geeez! It really concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love " us,

> > > > especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's going to

damage her

> > > > relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you know that

> > > > Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a hard time right now

> > > > with touching people " . You know what she said? " I know Sissy

loves

> > > > me in her heart, Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again.

Jazmin

> > > > is adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability to

> > > > empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond her years

and says

> > > > she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a psychologist that

> > > > specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just never know.

> > > > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with this darn

Zoloft!

> > > > I hate to think we've wasted the last 6 weeks if this isn't

going to

> > > > help; I mean other than some mood improvement, I've seen very

little

> > > > improvement in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated

already; and

> > > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything's going to be ok "

face on,

> > > > when what if it's not??!! I feel like in addition to trying

to help

> > > > , I have to protect her brother and sister from the

fallout,

> > > > keep the house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep

going, on and

> > > > on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking myself

because

> > > > I haven't even been through a TENTH of what some of you have dealt

> > > > with, so what right do I have to whine anyway? I'm just so afraid

> > > > it's going to get WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with

WORSE!

> > > > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go with all

these

> > > > emotions but here.

> > > > > Debbie

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Hi, . When you say a little out of control, do you mean with a

temper? Or with hyper behavior?

Our son is on Celexa for the second time. Both times, he went through

a phase where he got hyper for a bit. That it not uncommon with

SSRIs. If it doesn't pass, with time, it is something that needs to

be addressed.

If it anger, that's a bit more complicated. OCD can cause anger and

frustration. But, if you didn't see it before the meds, only after,

that is something to discuss with the prescribing doctor.

We saw frustration,anger, and even meltdowns in our son, when he was

young, and he wasn't on meds yet. They can become frustrated by the

demands that OCD have. And they can become frustrated with someone

who is not going along with the ritual they need to do to try to bring

the anxiety levels down.

We found as our son did ERP, with his therapist's guidance, the

frustration (associated with rituals) disappeared as he was able to

bring the level of " need " down with some of his rituals, or eliminate

them altogether. Are you finding that happening with your son? Is

your son able to do ERP at this time? Our son, Josh, needed the meds

to work first, to bring him to a place where the anxiety was more

under control and he was able to cope better, before he could try

therapy. Once the CBT and ERP were implemented, he started doing even

better. The combination of meds and therapy gave him his life back.

Hugs,

BJ

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > From: deborahcavender@

> > > > > > > <deborahcavender@>

> > > > > > > Subject: I'm whining - long, sorry

> > > > > > > To:

> > > > > > > Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:38 AM

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be

> going

> > > > > > > just fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We

> > > > > > > had our 504 meeting with 's teachers yesterday

> > > > > > > and it went exceedingly well; all the teachers and the

> > > > > > > principal seemed ready and willing to do whatever needed

> to

> > > > > > > be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > > > > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared

> > > > > > > and Jess was left completely on her own, she'd be happy

> > > > > > > as a clam! My 5-yr old walked into her room because I was

> in

> > > > > > > there and you'd have thought the biggest germ had just

> > > > > > > waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > > > > > " contamination " all over the place! She

> > > > > > > practically shoved her out of the room, at which point I

> > > > > > > handled it badly and got emotional at the way she was

> > > > > > > treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her room,

> > > > > > > Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh,

> > > > > > > mom's going all emotional on me! " WHAT??????

> > > > > > > WHO'S the emotional one here???!!! Geeez! It really

> > > > > > > concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love "

> > > > > > > us, especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's

> > > > > > > going to damage her relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > > > > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you

> > > > > > > know that Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a

> > > > > > > hard time right now with touching people " . You know

> > > > > > > what she said? " I know Sissy loves me in her heart,

> > > > > > > Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again. Jazmin is

> > > > > > > adopted from China and has always seemed to have an

> ability

> > > > > > > to empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond

> > > > > > > her years and says she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe

> a

> > > > > > > psychologist that specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just

> > > > > > > never know.

> > > > > > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with

> > > > > > > this darn Zoloft! I hate to think we've wasted the last

> > > > > > > 6 weeks if this isn't going to help; I mean other than

> > > > > > > some mood improvement, I've seen very little improvement

> > > > > > > in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated already; and

> > > > > > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s

> > > > > > > going to be ok " face on, when what if it's not??!!

> > > > > > > I feel like in addition to trying to help , I have

> to

> > > > > > > protect her brother and sister from the fallout, keep the

> > > > > > > house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep going, on

> > > > > > > and on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > > > > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking

> > > > > > > myself because I haven't even been through a TENTH of

> > > > > > > what some of you have dealt with, so what right do I have

> to

> > > > > > > whine anyway? I'm just so afraid it's going to get

> > > > > > > WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with WORSE!

> > > > > > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go

> > > > > > > with all these emotions but here.

> > > > > > > Debbie

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Hi BJ. First of all, and this may sound dumb, but what is ERP?

The therapist and teacher as well as the school counselor will meet on Monday.

I'm praying that it will bring some relief. Right now the therapist is treating

bad behavior as bad behavior no matter where it stems from. I was just with her

and she was saying to give a consequence if he yells at me, but at the same time

validate his feelings and frustrations while giving him an alternative way to

blow off steam.

I've home schooled before, but it doesn't work as well for Josiah. He needs

other kids and was getting depressed without them, plus he needs the structure

that I could not give him. I am paralyzed, so we have a whole separate set of

circumstances to work around. My first two kids were easy to home school

because they had each other and we had a really nice network of friends who

would come visit us or take them out and sometimes take me too. I just didn't

have that here. Next year, however, he will be in a charter school that is a

lot more accommodating. Thanks for writing to me. I was feeling so frustrated

and misunderstood for both Josiah and myself.

Walk by Faith

Tyler

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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 12:49:51 PM

Subject: Re: I'm whining - long, sorry

, I'm glad to hear the psychologist will be speaking to the

teacher. Hopefully, that will help.

It can be hard, sometimes, to figure out what is OCD and what is

typical childhood behavior. And when you add meds, it can muddy it up

even more, because sometimes meds cause behaviors too. I know our son

got pretty spacey on his meds, both times, at first.

OCD can cause bad behavior. When they are doing what the OCD wants so

they can try to feel less anxious, then we refuse to go along, it can

cause anger, frustration, and sometimes even meltdowns. When our son

was 7, he needed his socks to feel " just right " in his shoes. It

would take him a half an hour to get his shoes on. He would meltdown

and starting hitting his feet, in his shoes, out of sheer frustration.

When our son started doing ERP, which wasn't until he was 14?, 15?, HE

was the one fighting it, rather than me refusing to go along (although

that was part of the plan), so he was less inclined to be frustrated.

I suspect that is because it was his choice to fight it, rather than

someone refusing to accommodate OCD and him feeling like it was him

against someone. Hope that made sense. Despite it being his choice,

he would literally groan out loud as he was fighting it. I guess it

just goes to show how much power OCD can have over them.

What does your son's therapist think about his behavior. Has he tried

to break it down to see if it's OCD related? If so, maybe you could

fashion some ERP to bring the level down, or even eliminate it.

Our son has always been exceptionally bright too. When he was in

school (we've homeschooled for 10 years now), he was not challenged at

all. He would get his stuff done, then visit with his neighbor,

because he was bored. That got him in trouble at school. He was 7

when we pulled him out and started homeschooling. That worked great

for him, because he was able to work at his own pace, which was

accelerated.

BJ

> > > > >

> > > > > What is it with this OCD thing that everything can be going just

> > > > fine and one little thing blows it up in my face?! We had our 504

> > > > meeting with 's teachers yesterday and it went exceedingly

> > > > well; all the teachers and the principal seemed ready and

willing to

> > > > do whatever needed to be done to help her succeed in school.

> > > > > Flashforward to home: I think if we all just disappeared and

Jess

> > > > was left completely on her own, she'd be happy as a clam! My

5-yr old

> > > > walked into her room because I was in there and you'd have

thought the

> > > > biggest germ had just waltzed into Jess's room spraying

> > > > " contamination " all over the place! She practically shoved

her out of

> > > > the room, at which point I handled it badly and got emotional

at the

> > > > way she was treating her younger sister. Jess stormed out of her

> > > > room, Dad asks what's going on, and she says " oh, mom's going all

> > > > emotional on me! " WHAT?????? WHO'S the emotional one here???!!!

> > > > Geeez! It really concerns me that she doesn't seem to " love " us,

> > > > especially her siblings. I'm so concerned she's going to

damage her

> > > > relationship with them beyond repair.

> > > > > When I tucked my little one into bed, I told her " you know that

> > > > Sissy loves you very much; she's just having a hard time right now

> > > > with touching people " . You know what she said? " I know Sissy

loves

> > > > me in her heart, Mommy " . Guess what, I got emotional again.

Jazmin

> > > > is adopted from China and has always seemed to have an ability to

> > > > empathize with others' feelings in a way far beyond her years

and says

> > > > she wants to be a doctor. Hmmmm, maybe a psychologist that

> > > > specializes in OCD, perhaps? You just never know.

> > > > > And I still keep waiting to see " something " with this darn

Zoloft!

> > > > I hate to think we've wasted the last 6 weeks if this isn't

going to

> > > > help; I mean other than some mood improvement, I've seen very

little

> > > > improvement in the OCD symptoms. I'm just so frustrated

already; and

> > > > I'm sick of keeping this false " everything' s going to be ok "

face on,

> > > > when what if it's not??!! I feel like in addition to trying

to help

> > > > , I have to protect her brother and sister from the

fallout,

> > > > keep the house running, keep working, keep smiling, keep

going, on and

> > > > on and on. AND it's only been two months!

> > > > > So I'm sitting here having my pity-party and kicking myself

because

> > > > I haven't even been through a TENTH of what some of you have dealt

> > > > with, so what right do I have to whine anyway? I'm just so afraid

> > > > it's going to get WORSE and I don't know if I can deal with

WORSE!

> > > > > Thanks for listening; there's nowhere else I can go with all

these

> > > > emotions but here.

> > > > > Debbie

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Hi , what are some of your son's OC behaviors, how school is

affected...? Just thinking maybe I might find something that relates

to your son for the teacher.

ERP = Exposure & Response Prevention (or some say " ritual "

prevention). It's part of the therapy for OCD. There should be good

info about it at the OCD Foundation website. Believe that is

http://ocfoundation.org if I remember right.

>

> Hi BJ. First of all, and this may sound dumb, but what is ERP?

>

> The therapist and teacher as well as the school counselor will meet

on Monday. I'm praying that it will bring some relief. Right now the

therapist is treating bad behavior as bad behavior no matter where it

stems from. I was just with her and she was saying to give a

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Hi BJ,

Thanks...the support from this board really helped get me through the

rough time. I couldn't even think straight and I would come here and

got such good suggestions and support. I am so, so thankful to all

of you.

Anne

> >

> > Hi Debbie,

> >

> > I just wanted to say that I'm so sorry that you are going through

> > this and I have been where you are!! This board is such a

fabulous

> > source of support and I don't think I could have made it through

the

> > rough times without it. The advice, suggestions and most of all

the

> > support on here has been invaluable.

> >

> > My DD (who is 9 and was diagnosed with OCD at age 4) had her OCD

> > flare up at the beginning of the school year. She was hysterical

> > about going to school and we could barely get her out of the car

and

> > into the school. It was a nightmare. At home, she would just

cry

> > and count down the hours until school. I felt like we were in

the

> > house in the Wizard of Oz - just spinning out of control.

> >

> > Well...my DD is now making straight As in school, got chosen as 1

of

> > only 2 children in 4th grade for Honor's Chorus and is thriving

at

> > school. She goes into school early to meet with her old teacher

from

> > last year who has been a huge source of support to her (I used to

> > have to fight him to convince him that she had OCD - he's seen it

> > firsthand now and has come through for her with flying colors).

She

> > is a " helper " in his class before school which has helped her

self

> > esteem and confidence. I tell you this to let you know that this

> > will pass. A few months ago, I never would have dreamed that we

> > would be at this point. I also feel like I have to keep my guard

up

> > for the next OCD flare. But in the meantime, I try to cherish

these

> > positive moments. I feel like the OCD really makes us appreciate

> > these positive moments so much more.

> >

> > Anyway, I just want to say that we are here for you and thinking

of

> > you and hoping that it gets better very soon.

> >

> > Anne

> >

> > PS We also have a younger daughter who is 4 1/2 and is adopted

from

> > China!!

> >

>

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