Guest guest Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Thanks for the reply H. Very informative & interesting. Myself, I enjoy the 100 rep Sit @ home system, but I'd like a change every now & then. I've been going over the claims & training programs offered by personal trainers on youtube etc. Seems to be the benchmark is intensive strength workouts either with machines, barbells, dumbbells or just simple bodyweight exercises. The purpose is to do 'less time' but very intensive workouts every second day, with 8-10 reps per exercise but intensity is rated at as close to 100% as you can go and where say reps 9 & 10 are the end of the road for your muscles. You must be on the verge of collapse by #10 and more reps are impossible. A short rest, preferably only 30 secs & onto the next exercise. Give it ten reps of full-on effort & collapse again. 30 seconds or more of rest and move onto the next exercise, etc etc. The steel bow is excellent here as one can change spring tension, if you are reaching full compression. How do you feel the above " 'full-on' 10 rep system " will go (as per above) with the bullworkers OR is compressing & holding compression near on 100% effort for 10-15 seconds in an isometric hold once or twice or thrice more effective with the bullworkers?? > > Gentlemen, > I have been experimenting, though I do not think I am going into new territory as much as neglected. > The principle of Isometric holds for strength increase was the main selling point for the Bullworker. Gert Koelbel quoted the study of 60-70% effort gave optimum results... and while this does produce excellent results, my curiosity goes back to whom I considered the strongest man, pound for pound of days past, Zass and his Isometric training. > > The majority of the public would be very content to have a high level of fitness, which I feel is best attained through Iso-Motion movement. However, there are a few individuals that would very much so want to increase their strength level into the realm of way above average. At 5'6 " tall and 165 lbs, Zass performed feats of strength most power lifters cannot achieve today.  How? > > First and foremost, I BELIEVE, genetics is the #1 factor... then his lifestyle coupled with his training methods.  His lifestyle involved a certain degree of agility and stamina, which determined a high level of fitness... what he did from that point was based on Isometric exercise, gradual progression with very high levels of exertion, but always worked up to, never rushed. His feats of strength speak for themselves and need no explanation. > > In my 60th year, I am still fortunate to be able to compete at a very high level in Masters Wrestling. This calls for agility, stamina and strength. Coincidentally, I am 5'6 " and weigh 170 lbs and by no means am I even close to Zass's stature... but his method is very beneficial. > > I believe I have proved the stamina & agility possibilities with the Sit-at-Home program, but when I switched to the " Endurance " training, a new dimension was opened to me, but still on a stamina and strength basis. I wanted to see how much emphasis on strength could be used without sacrificing the flexibility and agility. > > I have recently incorporated high Isometric level holds in my Iso-Motion routine and have been extremely impressed with the results. These holds are applied at no particular point other than when I feel inclined to do them.  I have practiced this routine with the Bullworker; Bow Extension, Iso-Bow and the Iso-Gym.  Each one has its own merits of application, but all go in the same direction... STRENGTH & AGILITY.  It is my desire to combine both. > > Now for the answer to the question: I only increase the level of compression consciously with the Isometric hold.  I started slowly in my compression and slowly increased the level every time. Different positions produce different levels of compression, but I was 3 weeks into the program before I truly felt the " power-burn " of pushing the envelope. My Iso-Motion compression levels increase naturally due to my increase in overall strength.  I do not use the powermeter due to the fact, I know my body and how much to push it. There are days I push further, but the feeling is always the same and I rest on weekends. > > Again, this is all combined with Iso-Motion movement, which I feel is superior to only Isotonic movement. Iso-Motion exercises the body in " everyday " movement and strengthens the body. Exercise fitness routines are actually moving in this direction. > > I hope this helps and I welcome comments and results... just give me personal statements. > Opinions are nice, but without testing are just that... opinions. > > I have learned that certain bodies respond a little differently, but still move in the general direction for results. A scientific test is nice, but I am not doing one, nor shall I. To me the proof is in the results and I have always tested my routines and have never been hesitant to move away from negative or towards or positive results. > > Respectfully, > > Bullworker > > > ________________________________ > > To: bullworkerclub > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:23 AM > Subject: Ever Increasing Compressions ?? > > >  > For ; > > , you posted this on facebook..... > " Im always trying to maximize the benefit of a Bulworker exercise, I am leaning towards the benefits of the combination of Iso-Motion with a " strong " Isomertic hold interspersed at varying points in the movements. The benefits of tendon strength development is not to be neglected in one's overall fitness routine. While the Isometric hold needs to be increased incrementally, it needs to be increased consistently. By increasing the hold in slow increments, minimal joint stress is maximized through the strength gain. " > > Question: Can you comment some more on those last two sentences? Am i increasing the applied pressure whilst in the iso-motion / isometric hold? Does this also apply to regular isometric 7-10 second compressions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2012 Report Share Posted May 30, 2012 Faris,I like the 100% concept, but as with any exercise program... there must be a progressive build-up to it. To promote 100% from the get-go, is going to cause problems with joints and muscles.I still like the 10 reps with the Isometric hold for rep #10. It is a great intro to the progression ladder.There are several other combos, but all involve building up to the 100%.Respectfully, Bullworker To: bullworkerclub Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:51 PM Subject: Re: Ever Increasing Compressions ?? Thanks for the reply H. Very informative & interesting. Myself, I enjoy the 100 rep Sit @ home system, but I'd like a change every now & then. I've been going over the claims & training programs offered by personal trainers on youtube etc. Seems to be the benchmark is intensive strength workouts either with machines, barbells, dumbbells or just simple bodyweight exercises. The purpose is to do 'less time' but very intensive workouts every second day, with 8-10 reps per exercise but intensity is rated at as close to 100% as you can go and where say reps 9 & 10 are the end of the road for your muscles. You must be on the verge of collapse by #10 and more reps are impossible. A short rest, preferably only 30 secs & onto the next exercise. Give it ten reps of full-on effort & collapse again. 30 seconds or more of rest and move onto the next exercise, etc etc. The steel bow is excellent here as one can change spring tension, if you are reaching full compression. How do you feel the above "'full-on' 10 rep system" will go (as per above) with the bullworkers OR is compressing & holding compression near on 100% effort for 10-15 seconds in an isometric hold once or twice or thrice more effective with the bullworkers?? > > Gentlemen, > I have been experimenting, though I do not think I am going into new territory as much as neglected. > The principle of Isometric holds for strength increase was the main selling point for the Bullworker. Gert Koelbel quoted the study of 60-70% effort gave optimum results... and while this does produce excellent results, my curiosity goes back to whom I considered the strongest man, pound for pound of days past, Zass and his Isometric training. > > The majority of the public would be very content to have a high level of fitness, which I feel is best attained through Iso-Motion movement. However, there are a few individuals that would very much so want to increase their strength level into the realm of way above average. At 5'6" tall and 165 lbs, Zass performed feats of strength most power lifters cannot achieve today.  How? > > First and foremost, I BELIEVE, genetics is the #1 factor... then his lifestyle coupled with his training methods.  His lifestyle involved a certain degree of agility and stamina, which determined a high level of fitness... what he did from that point was based on Isometric exercise, gradual progression with very high levels of exertion, but always worked up to, never rushed. His feats of strength speak for themselves and need no explanation. > > In my 60th year, I am still fortunate to be able to compete at a very high level in Masters Wrestling. This calls for agility, stamina and strength. Coincidentally, I am 5'6" and weigh 170 lbs and by no means am I even close to Zass's stature... but his method is very beneficial. > > I believe I have proved the stamina & agility possibilities with the Sit-at-Home program, but when I switched to the "Endurance" training, a new dimension was opened to me, but still on a stamina and strength basis. I wanted to see how much emphasis on strength could be used without sacrificing the flexibility and agility. > > I have recently incorporated high Isometric level holds in my Iso-Motion routine and have been extremely impressed with the results. These holds are applied at no particular point other than when I feel inclined to do them.  I have practiced this routine with the Bullworker; Bow Extension, Iso-Bow and the Iso-Gym.  Each one has its own merits of application, but all go in the same direction... STRENGTH & AGILITY.  It is my desire to combine both. > > Now for the answer to the question: I only increase the level of compression consciously with the Isometric hold.  I started slowly in my compression and slowly increased the level every time. Different positions produce different levels of compression, but I was 3 weeks into the program before I truly felt the "power-burn" of pushing the envelope. My Iso-Motion compression levels increase naturally due to my increase in overall strength.  I do not use the powermeter due to the fact, I know my body and how much to push it. There are days I push further, but the feeling is always the same and I rest on weekends. > > Again, this is all combined with Iso-Motion movement, which I feel is superior to only Isotonic movement. Iso-Motion exercises the body in "everyday" movement and strengthens the body. Exercise fitness routines are actually moving in this direction. > > I hope this helps and I welcome comments and results... just give me personal statements. > Opinions are nice, but without testing are just that... opinions. > > I have learned that certain bodies respond a little differently, but still move in the general direction for results. A scientific test is nice, but I am not doing one, nor shall I. To me the proof is in the results and I have always tested my routines and have never been hesitant to move away from negative or towards or positive results. > > Respectfully, > > Bullworker > > > ________________________________ > > To: bullworkerclub > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:23 AM > Subject: Ever Increasing Compressions ?? > > >  > For ; > > , you posted this on facebook..... > "Im always trying to maximize the benefit of a Bulworker exercise, I am leaning towards the benefits of the combination of Iso-Motion with a "strong" Isomertic hold interspersed at varying points in the movements. The benefits of tendon strength development is not to be neglected in one's overall fitness routine. While the Isometric hold needs to be increased incrementally, it needs to be increased consistently. By increasing the hold in slow increments, minimal joint stress is maximized through the strength gain." > > Question: Can you comment some more on those last two sentences? Am i increasing the applied pressure whilst in the iso-motion / isometric hold? Does this also apply to regular isometric 7-10 second compressions? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Yes, the ten reps & hold on #10. Forgot that one. Thanks for the reminder. I take your point about too much too soon. Being just a year behind you , old fella, I pulled a little too much, too enthusiastically, too early, on the iso-bow when it arrived and discovered I have arthritis in some finger joints. Thanks for your replies. > > > > Gentlemen, > > I have been experimenting, though I do not think I am going into new territory as much as neglected. > > The principle of Isometric holds for strength increase was the main selling point for the Bullworker. Gert Koelbel quoted the study of 60-70% effort gave optimum results... and while this does produce excellent results, my curiosity goes back to whom I considered the strongest man, pound for pound of days past, Zass and his Isometric training. > > > > The majority of the public would be very content to have a high level of fitness, which I feel is best attained through Iso-Motion movement. However, there are a few individuals that would very much so want to increase their strength level into the realm of way above average. At 5'6 " tall and 165 lbs, Zass performed feats of strength most power lifters cannot achieve today.  How? > > > > First and foremost, I BELIEVE, genetics is the #1 factor... then his lifestyle coupled with his training methods.  His lifestyle involved a certain degree of agility and stamina, which determined a high level of fitness... what he did from that point was based on Isometric exercise, gradual progression with very high levels of exertion, but always worked up to, never rushed. His feats of strength speak for themselves and need no explanation. > > > > In my 60th year, I am still fortunate to be able to compete at a very high level in Masters Wrestling. This calls for agility, stamina and strength. Coincidentally, I am 5'6 " and weigh 170 lbs and by no means am I even close to Zass's stature... but his method is very beneficial. > > > > I believe I have proved the stamina & agility possibilities with the Sit-at-Home program, but when I switched to the " Endurance " training, a new dimension was opened to me, but still on a stamina and strength basis. I wanted to see how much emphasis on strength could be used without sacrificing the flexibility and agility. > > > > I have recently incorporated high Isometric level holds in my Iso-Motion routine and have been extremely impressed with the results. These holds are applied at no particular point other than when I feel inclined to do them.  I have practiced this routine with the Bullworker; Bow Extension, Iso-Bow and the Iso-Gym.  Each one has its own merits of application, but all go in the same direction... STRENGTH & AGILITY.  It is my desire to combine both. > > > > Now for the answer to the question: I only increase the level of compression consciously with the Isometric hold.  I started slowly in my compression and slowly increased the level every time. Different positions produce different levels of compression, but I was 3 weeks into the program before I truly felt the " power-burn " of pushing the envelope. My Iso-Motion compression levels increase naturally due to my increase in overall strength.  I do not use the powermeter due to the fact, I know my body and how much to push it. There are days I push further, but the feeling is always the same and I rest on weekends. > > > > Again, this is all combined with Iso-Motion movement, which I feel is superior to only Isotonic movement. Iso-Motion exercises the body in " everyday " movement and strengthens the body. Exercise fitness routines are actually moving in this direction. > > > > I hope this helps and I welcome comments and results... just give me personal statements. > > Opinions are nice, but without testing are just that... opinions. > > > > I have learned that certain bodies respond a little differently, but still move in the general direction for results. A scientific test is nice, but I am not doing one, nor shall I. To me the proof is in the results and I have always tested my routines and have never been hesitant to move away from negative or towards or positive results. > > > > Respectfully, > > > > Bullworker > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: FarisMee <faris_mee@> > > To: bullworkerclub > > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 2:23 AM > > Subject: Ever Increasing Compressions ?? > > > > > >  > > For ; > > > > , you posted this on facebook..... > > " Im always trying to maximize the benefit of a Bulworker exercise, I am leaning towards the benefits of the combination of Iso-Motion with a " strong " Isomertic hold interspersed at varying points in the movements. The benefits of tendon strength development is not to be neglected in one's overall fitness routine. While the Isometric hold needs to be increased incrementally, it needs to be increased consistently. By increasing the hold in slow increments, minimal joint stress is maximized through the strength gain. " > > > > Question: Can you comment some more on those last two sentences? Am i increasing the applied pressure whilst in the iso-motion / isometric hold? Does this also apply to regular isometric 7-10 second compressions? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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