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In a message dated 2/6/02 4:31:57 PM Pacific Standard Time, normanbarth@... writes:

My wife and I have recently moved to the Washington, DC area. Pamela was diagnosed with

AIH about a year ago. Does anyone have suggestions

for a good (great?!) hepatologist in DC/Northern

Virginia.

Many thanks,

- Norman

Perhaps someone else in this group can help you find a good hepatologist in the Washington area. Surely there are many.

Please let us know if we can help in any other way. Best wishes.

Harper (AIH dx 5/00)

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Norman,

I'm and I live in Richmond VA. I see a Hepatologist in

Charlottesville. You are so close to 's Hopkins you might want to look

into that. I'm sure if I were in the DC area that's where I would go. If

you are interested in Charlottesville e-mail me directly and I'll give you my

doc's name and number. I love him and think he's done a great job with me.

Hope all goes well for your wife. Welcome to Virginia.

Mkantzle@...

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My wife and I have recently moved to the

Washington, DC area. Pamela was diagnosed with

AIH about a year ago. Does anyone have suggestions

for a good (great?!) hepatologist in DC/Northern

Virginia.

Many thanks,

- Norman

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Norman Barth - Washington, D.C., USA

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Hi Marilyn,

I'm and I live in Richmond, VA. Sorry to hear about the transplant

list but hope all is going OK as you wait. It's nice to know that there is

someone else besides Joe and I in this group that lives in Virginia. Sorry

we had to meet like this. The doctor I use to work for did his post graduate

work at town. He loved it there and is a great MD. I am sure if he is

an example of the physicians town turns out you are in excellent hands.

Keep us informed RE: The Transplant List.

.

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Hi!

I go to georgetown hospital and I am on the transplant list there. I do

like most of the doctors I have had there.

Marilyn

Vienna,Va

Norman Barth wrote:

>

> My wife and I have recently moved to the

> Washington, DC area. Pamela was diagnosed with

> AIH about a year ago. Does anyone have suggestions

> for a good (great?!) hepatologist in DC/Northern

> Virginia.

>

> Many thanks,

>

> - Norman

>

> =====

> Norman Barth - Washington, D.C., USA

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I recall Cliff saying that he did not know about the whole Budwig protocol

and just added the cottage cheese and flaxseed oil to his usual diet.

Cliff, please correct me if I am wrong here.

mjh

In a message dated 4/9/05 7:16:32 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

writes:

> he has survived advanced prostate cancer since 1991 by

> using The Budwig Protocol

> based on a diet of raw fruits and vegetables mixed with flaxseed oil

> blended with cottage cheese

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In a message dated 9/5/2005 3:23:25 PM Eastern Standard Time, the

Original writes to :

buy the machine, have someone tape you,

and then return it saying you can't see well enough to use it.

You Kill me, ! I'm laughing uproariously! ROFL

:o) Jackie

Implanted - right ear - Oct.2002 - Nucleus 24/3G

Reimplanted - right ear - Jan.2005 - Nucleus 24C/3G

Implanted - left ear - Sept.2005 - Nucleus-Freedom

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these are examples

1. this child hears you say " oh man! " and asks mom or others if she

is a man, over and over and then may be heard in the other room

saying " i am not a man, i am a girl, i am ___ "

<Extreme literal-mindedness. I'd maybe try to work on idioms w/her,

show her that words can have two meanings.

2. you cough in one room and she is in another and she comes in to

repeatedly ask if you coughed on her

<Anxiety, OCD stuff, which some of the other things you describe also

sound like.

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It sure sounds like you have the classic MS symptoms, though you didn't say that was your diagnosis? LDN is used to treat many other illnesses too. Have you started taking LDN yet? How long? If not, I suggest you start it ASAP. LDN is a drug that's used to stabilize your MS and halt further deterioration. Although some people have found symptom relief (my trigeminal neuralgia pain seems to have eased a little, and sessions haven't lasted as long), I suggest you not start LDN by expecting it to eliminate your MS. This is likely going to set yourself up for disappointment.

Rae

From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of amit gandhiSent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:07 AMNo Reply; low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Digest Number 2061

HI EVERYONE

I AM HAVING PERSISTENT GAIT IMBALANCE,SPASTICITY,WEAKNESS OF LIMBS AND FOGGY MIND SINCE LAST 5-6 DAYS.

ANY SUGGESTIONS PLEASE

REGARDS

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I also have ms 17 years now. been on ldn 5 1/2 months

now, plus still taking copaxone. still feel I'm going

downhill. legs getting weaker and dragging feet,

especially right leg. I just want to stop progression,

but I don't feel like I'm getting that. I do take

lipitor, inderal, neurontin, klonipin,protonix,

usually at night too. Maybe some of these interact

with the ldn. I don't know. I know, by the saliva test

I do have excess yeast. Been trying to get rid of that

too. I hope the ldn starts working soon.. Maybe I

should go up to 4.5mg. I am on 3.0 mg now. Any words

of advise from anyone, that would be great.

keith

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Hi

Have you looked at:

Oral Nystatin (Mycostatin, Nilstat, Nystex) over an extended period

of time (continually for months) has successfully dealt with my

yeast issues in the past.

I have also used a 7 day treatment with diflucan (Oral

Fluconazole suspension or Tablets, Itraconazole Capsules,

Ketoconazole Tablets) with great success, particularly for

gastrointestinal yeast. The recommendation used to be for a one-day

treatment with the diflucan but has been recently changed to 7 days.

Hope this helps.

Victor

>

> I also have ms 17 years now. been on ldn 5 1/2 months

> now, plus still taking copaxone. still feel I'm going

> downhill. legs getting weaker and dragging feet,

> especially right leg. I just want to stop progression,

> but I don't feel like I'm getting that. I do take

> lipitor, inderal, neurontin, klonipin,protonix,

> usually at night too. Maybe some of these interact

> with the ldn. I don't know. I know, by the saliva test

> I do have excess yeast. Been trying to get rid of that

> too. I hope the ldn starts working soon.. Maybe I

> should go up to 4.5mg. I am on 3.0 mg now. Any words

> of advise from anyone, that would be great.

> keith

>

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In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

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I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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Posted by: " n8healer " n8healer@... n8healer

Wed Aug 9, 2006 8:39 pm (PST)

<<I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.>>

** A vitamin would not be a placebo, and a B12 shot and a " handful of

vitamins " sure as hell isn't. Vitamins contain nutrients. Nutrients are

biologically active substances.

Definition: PLACEBO

An inactive substance or preparation used as a control in an experiment or

test to determine the effectiveness of a medicinal drug.

Something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure

another

If every doctor were to do this, the drug cos. would go out of

business.

Regards,

Do not follow where the path may lead;

go instead where there is no path and

leave a trail.

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Posted by: " n8healer " n8healer@... n8healer

Wed Aug 9, 2006 8:39 pm (PST)

<<I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.>>

** A vitamin would not be a placebo, and a B12 shot and a " handful of

vitamins " sure as hell isn't. Vitamins contain nutrients. Nutrients are

biologically active substances.

Definition: PLACEBO

An inactive substance or preparation used as a control in an experiment or

test to determine the effectiveness of a medicinal drug.

Something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure

another

If every doctor were to do this, the drug cos. would go out of

business.

Regards,

Do not follow where the path may lead;

go instead where there is no path and

leave a trail.

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Posted by: " n8healer " n8healer@... n8healer

Wed Aug 9, 2006 8:39 pm (PST)

<<I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.>>

** A vitamin would not be a placebo, and a B12 shot and a " handful of

vitamins " sure as hell isn't. Vitamins contain nutrients. Nutrients are

biologically active substances.

Definition: PLACEBO

An inactive substance or preparation used as a control in an experiment or

test to determine the effectiveness of a medicinal drug.

Something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure

another

If every doctor were to do this, the drug cos. would go out of

business.

Regards,

Do not follow where the path may lead;

go instead where there is no path and

leave a trail.

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Posted by: " n8healer " n8healer@... n8healer

Wed Aug 9, 2006 8:39 pm (PST)

<<I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.>>

** A vitamin would not be a placebo, and a B12 shot and a " handful of

vitamins " sure as hell isn't. Vitamins contain nutrients. Nutrients are

biologically active substances.

Definition: PLACEBO

An inactive substance or preparation used as a control in an experiment or

test to determine the effectiveness of a medicinal drug.

Something of no intrinsic remedial value that is used to appease or reassure

another

If every doctor were to do this, the drug cos. would go out of

business.

Regards,

Do not follow where the path may lead;

go instead where there is no path and

leave a trail.

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It's a beautiful thing! You cannot patent it and make

bazillions of bucks. Doctors would still do alright as they

still need to be able to differentiate between psycho-

somatic stuff and real illness. The drug companies

probably cringe at the thought.

I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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It's a beautiful thing! You cannot patent it and make

bazillions of bucks. Doctors would still do alright as they

still need to be able to differentiate between psycho-

somatic stuff and real illness. The drug companies

probably cringe at the thought.

I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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It's a beautiful thing! You cannot patent it and make

bazillions of bucks. Doctors would still do alright as they

still need to be able to differentiate between psycho-

somatic stuff and real illness. The drug companies

probably cringe at the thought.

I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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It's a beautiful thing! You cannot patent it and make

bazillions of bucks. Doctors would still do alright as they

still need to be able to differentiate between psycho-

somatic stuff and real illness. The drug companies

probably cringe at the thought.

I think that this is a medically correct conclusion. You used to be

able to prescribe placebo through a pharmacy years ago, but I haven't

heard of that being done in years. Still, placebo can be prescribed

by telling the patient to take vitamin supplements. Studies on

placebo indicate that larger pills have more placebo than smaller

pills and an injection has the highest placebo rate. The enthusiasm

of the prescribing doctor has a lot to do with the power of the

placebo effect. If an enthusiastic and compassionate doctor gave a

patient a B-12 shot and a handful of supplements my guess is that the

results would be significantly superior to antidepressants.

>

>

> In a message dated 8/9/2006 4:53:32 AM Pacific Standard Time,

> SSRI medications writes:

>

>

> Along the same vein, since antidepressants are about as effective as

> placebo, who not just give patients placebo?

>

>

>

> Can you rx those???? Now that would be a novel treatment.

>

>

>

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