Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Yes, More and more people are being diagnosed with type 2 diabetes because of being overweight. It is even happening to teenagers. As I have mentioned previously, you can usually tell the differance between type 1 and 2 as type 1 diabetics do not make any insulin at all and type 2 may be making insulin, but their cells are resistant to it-usually because of being overweight. Some peopeiple who are type 2 have to be put on insulin when first diagnosed, but those people who are usually people who have diabetic for a long time, but never diagnosed-often they are not diagnosed until some ugly complication has arisen such as blindness or failure of a foot would to heal. There must be some kind of audible glucose meter available in the UK. Do you have a Diabetic Association there that could answer that question? Repost: Hi from a non-diabetic Hi, This didn't seem to make it to the list yesterday so reposting. My name is Hodgson, and I heard about this list recently from another list. I am friends with someone who is type 1 diabetic and is struggling to find a meter. He lives on his own, and I don't see him often, but it seems that he is dependent on the people that visit him to actually tell him the results of his tests. What I think this causes is that he does not knoe the level of his blood. Is this correct? Does anyone know a good system in the UK to sort this out? I have seen a meter sold by <www.vis-ability.com>, however, there are ongoing costs which are not met by perscription, which is a real shame and I think is very bad on the NHS. I am wondering whether the diabetics in the UK etc are slightly retisent of blind diabetics because of the risk to them of going blind? Who knows. Also, I am wondering about type 1 and 2 diabetes. My friend was born totally blind then developed diabetes at type 1 level when he was 13. Is this quite common with blind people on this list? I am also wondering whether there are perhaps more blind type 2 diabetics around as some blind people tend to be slightly heavier for various reasons? This is for my own personal curiosity nothing else. Thanks, . -- Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. Email: @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Hi , Their has recently become available 1 blood glucose monitor, as mentioned, butt it is expensive, and reasonably new. As for an organisation to answer questions. From my limited experience, Diabetes UK, are relatively useless when it comes to things like this. When I was first diagnosed, they weren't even aware that their had been a talking meter, withdrawn because of inacuracy. Regards Tonight I need you More than yesterday Tonight I need you Take me, touch me, hold me like you mean it Make me come alive Hurt me, heal me, come and make me feel it Rescue me tonight Love me back to life E-mail kevin.inbed@... MSN kevinbed@... call Mobile 07796690766 Repost: Hi from a non-diabetic > > > Hi, > > This didn't seem to make it to the list yesterday so reposting. > > My name is Hodgson, and I heard about this list recently from > another list. > > I am friends with someone who is type 1 diabetic and is struggling to > find a meter. He lives on his own, and I don't see him often, but it > seems that he is dependent on the people that visit him to actually > tell him the results of his tests. What I think this causes is that > he does not knoe the level of his blood. Is this correct? Does > anyone know a good system in the UK to sort this out? I have seen a > meter sold by <www.vis-ability.com>, however, there are ongoing costs > which are not met by perscription, which is a real shame and I think > is very bad on the NHS. I am wondering whether the diabetics in the > UK etc are slightly retisent of blind diabetics because of the risk to > them of going blind? Who knows. > > Also, I am wondering about type 1 and 2 diabetes. My friend was born > totally blind then developed diabetes at type 1 level when he was 13. > Is this quite common with blind people on this list? I am also > wondering whether there are perhaps more blind type 2 diabetics around > as some blind people tend to be slightly heavier for various reasons? > This is for my own personal curiosity nothing else. > > Thanks, > . > -- > Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. > Email: @... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Goodwin in <034701c33477$88c6fa40$c1016bd5@r4j1s0>: >Hi , > >Their has recently become available 1 blood glucose monitor, as >mentioned, butt it is expensive, and reasonably new. The problem is not the initial costs but the costs for the accessories for this meter. It will not work without the accessories in the meter, so you need to keep buying them. The doctor tells him that if he had a different meter the accessories would be available via perscription, but with this talking meter the type of accessories are not on perscription. I think he would have to pay around £22 for 50 of the accessories to go in the meter. Also sorry for calling them accessories, what are there proper name? My friend is type 1 and he has insulin injections, but not with a seringe but a more safer device. It is interesting to see how many people are blind and then develop diabetes later in life - as I said my friend was a teenager when he developed diabetes, and I feel he has struggled ever since. . -- Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. Email: @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Hi , Personally I don't find the cost of £22 for 50 sensors, or whatever they are called unreasonable, or unmanageable. I think people think like that, because we get everything free here in the UK. If your friend is blind, and diabetic, they will be getting extra benefits for this. My problem is finding the initial money for the meter. I questioned the hospital, because everyone is given a free meter here. I personally didn't see why I should have to pay out £430 or about $700 for something that everyone else gets free. However after speaking to the doctor, the way it works is that the company that manufactures the meters, gives them to the doctors, to give to the patients. By doing this, they know that it's there sensors that will have to be bought, and used. I will in the end find a way of purchasing the meter, but as I say, the payment for strips, or sensors doesn't bother me whatsoever. My ultimate concern is to be able to monitor my own blood whenever I need for a while, so I can come to know when my body is telling me their is a change in my sugar, as aposed to some normal everyday ailment. Regards . Tonight I need you More than yesterday Tonight I need you Take me, touch me, hold me like you mean it Make me come alive Hurt me, heal me, come and make me feel it Rescue me tonight Love me back to life E-mail kevin.inbed@... MSN kevinbed@... call Mobile 07796690766 Re: Repost: Hi from a non-diabetic Goodwin in <034701c33477$88c6fa40$c1016bd5@r4j1s0>: >Hi , > >Their has recently become available 1 blood glucose monitor, as >mentioned, butt it is expensive, and reasonably new. The problem is not the initial costs but the costs for the accessories for this meter. It will not work without the accessories in the meter, so you need to keep buying them. The doctor tells him that if he had a different meter the accessories would be available via perscription, but with this talking meter the type of accessories are not on perscription. I think he would have to pay around £22 for 50 of the accessories to go in the meter. Also sorry for calling them accessories, what are there proper name? My friend is type 1 and he has insulin injections, but not with a seringe but a more safer device. It is interesting to see how many people are blind and then develop diabetes later in life - as I said my friend was a teenager when he developed diabetes, and I feel he has struggled ever since. . -- Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. Email: @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 Goodwin in <011601c334cf$802b45a0$c1016bd5@r4j1s0>: >Hi , > >Personally I don't find the cost of ?22 for 50 sensors, or whatever they are >called unreasonable, or unmanageable. I think people think like that, >because we get everything free here in the UK. If your friend is blind, and >diabetic, they will be getting extra benefits for this. , as he has type 1 he has to test four times a day for blood sugar. 50 sensors will not last long if he has to test this amount of times. Plus, why should he pay for them when others don't have to? I wouldn't mind paying for the meter if I was in his situation, but I do think that paying for the sensors is not good. > [...] > >I will in the end find a way of purchasing the meter, but as I say, the >payment for strips, or sensors doesn't bother me whatsoever. My ultimate >concern is to be able to monitor my own blood whenever I need for a while, >so I can come to know when my body is telling me their is a change in my >sugar, as aposed to some normal everyday ailment. This is what my friend is doing now and aparently it is quite dangerous because you can loose/change the awareness of the sugar changes in the body, which is the situation he is in now. . -- Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. Email: @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2003 Report Share Posted June 17, 2003 , You are saying that a pack of sensors would last your friend 2 weeks. Well, that makes £44 a month. Is this not what part of our DLA is for? if not, then their should be other benifit that is available. I would think their is provision somewhere for this. Regards Tonight I need you More than yesterday Tonight I need you Take me, touch me, hold me like you mean it Make me come alive Hurt me, heal me, come and make me feel it Rescue me tonight Love me back to life E-mail kevin.inbed@... MSN kevinbed@... call Mobile 07796690766 Re: Repost: Hi from a non-diabetic > Goodwin in <011601c334cf$802b45a0$c1016bd5@r4j1s0>: > > >Hi , > > > >Personally I don't find the cost of ?22 for 50 sensors, or whatever they are > >called unreasonable, or unmanageable. I think people think like that, > >because we get everything free here in the UK. If your friend is blind, and > >diabetic, they will be getting extra benefits for this. > > , as he has type 1 he has to test four times a day for blood > sugar. 50 sensors will not last long if he has to test this amount of > times. Plus, why should he pay for them when others don't have to? I > wouldn't mind paying for the meter if I was in his situation, but I do > think that paying for the sensors is not good. > > > [...] > > > >I will in the end find a way of purchasing the meter, but as I say, the > >payment for strips, or sensors doesn't bother me whatsoever. My ultimate > >concern is to be able to monitor my own blood whenever I need for a while, > >so I can come to know when my body is telling me their is a change in my > >sugar, as aposed to some normal everyday ailment. > > This is what my friend is doing now and aparently it is quite > dangerous because you can loose/change the awareness of the sugar > changes in the body, which is the situation he is in now. > > . > -- > Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. > Email: @... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Type 1 diabetes -or type 2-are both problems. i have been diabetic since I was less than 2 years ol. Does your friend use an insulin pump? I know they have them in Europe as the one I use was origanally made in Sweden. The glucose strips-at least I think that is what you mean by accessories-are expensive. They cost $39 for 50 strips in the USA. i don'n't know what the conversion rate is for you in the UK. Fortunately, the strips are the same kind that are used in the non-accessible meters, so insurance covers the cost. Diabetes is an expensive disease to try and cover without insurance. I don't know why your insurance companies won't cover the cost of the necessary strips for a talking meter-has anyone questioned them? Doctors need to put pressure on them. Re: Repost: Hi from a non-diabetic Goodwin in <034701c33477$88c6fa40$c1016bd5@r4j1s0>: >Hi , > >Their has recently become available 1 blood glucose monitor, as >mentioned, butt it is expensive, and reasonably new. The problem is not the initial costs but the costs for the accessories for this meter. It will not work without the accessories in the meter, so you need to keep buying them. The doctor tells him that if he had a different meter the accessories would be available via perscription, but with this talking meter the type of accessories are not on perscription. I think he would have to pay around £22 for 50 of the accessories to go in the meter. Also sorry for calling them accessories, what are there proper name? My friend is type 1 and he has insulin injections, but not with a seringe but a more safer device. It is interesting to see how many people are blind and then develop diabetes later in life - as I said my friend was a teenager when he developed diabetes, and I feel he has struggled ever since. . -- Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. Email: @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Hi, These strips should be covered by the Free prescription card, to which *all* diabetics are entitled in the U.K. I believe though, it may be a matter of whether or not the instrument is " type-approved " and if not, maybe the " accessories " will not then be covered. I certainly get my metformin and the other tablet, can't remember what it's called, something like Acabose, without having to pay for it by showing a card when having the prescription made up at the farmasy. Oh, I do have to sign for it. Now, the last rate I heard for the pound-to-american-dollar conversion was 1.61 dollars to the pound so that means $39 equals 24.22360248447204968944099378882 pounds (using the windows M.E calculator). Cheers. Colin R. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Hi , We don't have medical insurance here, because most things are given on the NHS, which means they are free for some, and only a fraction of the value to the rest. Regards . Tonight I need you More than yesterday Tonight I need you Take me, touch me, hold me like you mean it Make me come alive Hurt me, heal me, come and make me feel it Rescue me tonight Love me back to life E-mail kevin.inbed@... MSN kevinbed@... call Mobile 07796690766 Re: Repost: Hi from a non-diabetic > > > Goodwin in <034701c33477$88c6fa40$c1016bd5@r4j1s0>: > > >Hi , > > > >Their has recently become available 1 blood glucose monitor, as > >mentioned, butt it is expensive, and reasonably new. > > The problem is not the initial costs but the costs for the accessories > for this meter. It will not work without the accessories in the > meter, so you need to keep buying them. The doctor tells him that if > he had a different meter the accessories would be available via > perscription, but with this talking meter the type of accessories are > not on perscription. I think he would have to pay around £22 for 50 > of the accessories to go in the meter. Also sorry for calling them > accessories, what are there proper name? My friend is type 1 and he > has insulin injections, but not with a seringe but a more safer > device. It is interesting to see how many people are blind and then > develop diabetes later in life - as I said my friend was a teenager > when he developed diabetes, and I feel he has struggled ever since. > > . > -- > Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. > Email: @... > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 You are a crack up, Colin! I'm glad to hear the " accessories " should be covered by your insurance. Re: Repost: Hi from a non-diabetic Hi, These strips should be covered by the Free prescription card, to which *all* diabetics are entitled in the U.K. I believe though, it may be a matter of whether or not the instrument is " type-approved " and if not, maybe the " accessories " will not then be covered. I certainly get my metformin and the other tablet, can't remember what it's called, something like Acabose, without having to pay for it by showing a card when having the prescription made up at the farmasy. Oh, I do have to sign for it. Now, the last rate I heard for the pound-to-american-dollar conversion was 1.61 dollars to the pound so that means $39 equals 24.22360248447204968944099378882 pounds (using the windows M.E calculator). Cheers. Colin R. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Wollf in : >Type 1 diabetes -or type 2-are both problems. i have been diabetic since I >was less than 2 years ol. Does your friend use an insulin pump? I know >they have them in Europe as the one I use was origanally made in Sweden. No he does not have a pump as I said earlier he has a device which is not an seringe but something else. Aparently insulin pumps are very hard to come by over here, and are only given to young children who have problems. >The glucose strips-at least I think that is what you mean by accessories-are >expensive. They cost $39 for 50 strips in the USA. i don'n't know what the >conversion rate is for you in the UK. Fortunately, the strips are the same >kind that are used in the non-accessible meters, so insurance covers the >cost. Diabetes is an expensive disease to try and cover without insurance. Well we don't have insurance here in the UK, it is all covered by NHS. I don't know whether people have used the Gluciplus meter, which is the one my friend uses, but the strips for this meter are not covered on the NHS, thus he has to pay out of his own pocket. >I don't know why your insurance companies won't cover the cost of the >necessary strips for a talking meter-has anyone questioned them? Doctors >need to put pressure on them. I aggree, and don't know the reason either apart from lack of research. . -- Hodgson, Bromyard, Herefordshire, UK. Email: @... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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