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Hi everone dont get to get on all the time but thought this was some thing to

read i am not saying that med .are great for ever child are home schooling

but this goes back to ever autistic child is not the same and what might work

for one may not work for others Debbie. F

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nancy grace, I agree with you. When a child has a anxiety attack because

things arent perfect ex: Abby had one the other day in school because she made a

" Z " backwards during her reading & writing part. She was out of control. They

couldnt calm her down- noone. They even called her OT (whom Abby has had for 3

years and knows and likes very well). They called me at home to come up there

and while I was driving up there they called Ellen her PPI teacher who

gave them some ideas that helped. She was crying unconsolably-all over a " Z " . I

am awaiting a call from her pediatrician this morning. We have tried all sort

of therapies and ideas. However it not just the autism, most of her family

grandparents or aunts or someone has bi-polar, depression, anxiety/panic

attacks.

Genetics can and do play a big factor in this. Abbys " Z " incident is by no

means the first one and when she is getting overwhelmed she goes in the bathroom

and cries. I wont have this. Why should she have to live like this? If meds

work-fine, I dont see a problem with easing my childs pain that she is feeling.

Since these attacks started she has backslide in school and her the social

skills she had are becoming non-existant. I dont feel like I would be druging my

child. When all other possibilities are exhausted then I feel like I have to

do what I have to do. I dont have time to experiment with all differant natural

things and one therpies after another. Abby is falling apart at the seam NOW.

I will not prolong that. I give her a month before she has a complete

breakdown. If meds help her then I am more then willing to give them to her.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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Actually though, The teachers arent putting any pressure on Abby, deep down

inside she feels she must be perfect. Where she gets this from I will never

know. We have NEVER put pressure on her to be this way. We are adding more OT,

we

will see if that helps. Considering medication, we will see. I have lots to

think about.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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i used to do this. it was because i was trying so hard to please and to do

things the right way. no matter how hard i tried, it would be wrong and i would

have to try again. i just could not understand why other people could do it and

they did not seem to try. at the same time, i was noticing many other

differences, and i believed that i was insane and was trying to hide this from

the world. to be 5 and to think you are mad is not an easy way to live.

luckily my father noticed what was going on and recognized that i was putting

myself under too much pressure. he could be very fierce and made my teacher

back off. he helped me by giving me fun things to play with, like tweezers and

tiny beads to thread in repeating patterns. these helped fine motor skills.

about a year after the teacher stopped trying to make me do neat work, my work

got neater. maybe i was more relaxed as well as having better fine motor

skills.

i am lucky though. my father always knew absolutely that no matter how badly i

was doing, it was my best effort, and he insisted that other people respect

that.

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Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:28:15 EDT

From: Ploveabby@...

Subject: Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds

nancy grace, I agree with you. When a child has a anxiety attack because

things arent perfect ex: Abby had one the other day in school because she made a

" Z " backwards during her reading & writing part. She was out of control. They

couldnt calm her down- noone. They even called her OT (whom Abby has had for 3

years and knows and likes very well). They called me at home to come up there

and while I was driving up there they called Ellen her PPI teacher who

gave them some ideas that helped. She was crying unconsolably-all over a " Z " . I

am awaiting a call from her pediatrician this morning. We have tried all sort

of therapies and ideas. However it not just the autism, most of her family

grandparents or aunts or someone has bi-polar, depression, anxiety/panic

attacks.

Genetics can and do play a big factor in this. Abbys " Z " incident is by no

means the first one and when she is getting overwhelmed she goes in the bathroom

and cries. I wont have this. Why should she have to live like this? If meds

work-fine, I dont see a problem with easing my childs pain that she is feeling.

Since these attacks started she has backslide in school and her the social

skills she had are becoming non-existant. I dont feel like I would be druging my

child. When all other possibilities are exhausted then I feel like I have to

do what I have to do. I dont have time to experiment with all differant natural

things and one therpies after another. Abby is falling apart at the seam NOW.

I will not prolong that. I give her a month before she has a complete

breakdown. If meds help her then I am more then willing to give them to her.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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you never know where Abby gets her perfect attitude?????hmmm what is

wrong with this picture

Let me see if I can find any private emails you talked about things and

publish them on this list

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Actually though, The teachers arent putting any pressure on Abby, deep down

inside she feels she must be perfect. Where she gets this from I will never

know. We have NEVER put pressure on her to be this way. We are adding more

OT, we

will see if that helps. Considering medication, we will see. I have lots to

think about.

Pennie

Abby's Mom

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In a message dated 9/27/03 9:13:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cheezer@... writes:

>

I don't know what exactly what is meant by this. When pennie was talking

about Abby being perfectionist, it didn't mean she is perfect or try's to be.

It

means she feels aggravated if she cant do what the other children find easy

to do.

please do not bring our children or others that aren't involved into a

disagreement or fight between adults. our children have enough to deal with and

we

have enough to deal with their problems without having to feel we have to

protect our children from being 'bashed on-line " as some one said agree to

disagree, or just let others comments go (ignore them). if you have a problem

with

what an adult said say I was hurt. When they say IM sorry. Accept it as

sincere and let it go. Please leave my child out of it. Thank you.

Abby's dad

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didnt I apologize already. Pennie and I apologized to each

other. Thanks for getting involved

Charlene

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In a message dated 9/27/03 9:13:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cheezer@... writes:

>

I don't know what exactly what is meant by this. When pennie was talking

about Abby being perfectionist, it didn't mean she is perfect or try's to be

It

means she feels aggravated if she cant do what the other children find easy

to do.

please do not bring our children or others that aren't involved into a

disagreement or fight between adults. our children have enough to deal with

and we

have enough to deal with their problems without having to feel we have to

protect our children from being 'bashed on-line " as some one said agree to

disagree, or just let others comments go (ignore them). if you have a

problem with

what an adult said say I was hurt. When they say IM sorry. Accept it as

sincere and let it go. Please leave my child out of it. Thank you.

Abby's dad

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Thank you Charlene, I appreciate it

let talk of something positive. like we are taking abby on vaction,

upnorth michigan. the leaves are starting to change colors it should

make for some nice picture taking.

abbys dad

eric

groups.com, " hello " <cheezer@s...> wrote:

> didnt I apologize already. Pennie and I apologized

to each

> other. Thanks for getting involved

> Charlene

>

> -- Re: RE: Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds

>

> In a message dated 9/27/03 9:13:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> cheezer@s... writes:

>

>

> >

>

> I don't know what exactly what is meant by this. When pennie was

talking

> about Abby being perfectionist, it didn't mean she is perfect or

try's to be

> It

> means she feels aggravated if she cant do what the other children

find easy

> to do.

>

> please do not bring our children or others that aren't involved

into a

> disagreement or fight between adults. our children have enough to

deal with

> and we

> have enough to deal with their problems without having to feel we

have to

> protect our children from being 'bashed on-line " as some one said

agree to

> disagree, or just let others comments go (ignore them). if you have

a

> problem with

> what an adult said say I was hurt. When they say IM sorry. Accept

it as

> sincere and let it go. Please leave my child out of it. Thank you.

>

>

> Abby's dad

>

>

>

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Your a positive kind of man .

That sounds like a wonderful thing to do. There is nothing like

sharing with your child the beauty in fall.

Charlene

-- Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds

Thank you Charlene, I appreciate it

let talk of something positive. like we are taking abby on vaction,

upnorth michigan. the leaves are starting to change colors it should

make for some nice picture taking.

abbys dad

eric

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