Guest guest Posted September 26, 2003 Report Share Posted September 26, 2003 Hi everone dont get to get on all the time but thought this was some thing to read i am not saying that med .are great for ever child are home schooling but this goes back to ever autistic child is not the same and what might work for one may not work for others Debbie. F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 nancy grace, I agree with you. When a child has a anxiety attack because things arent perfect ex: Abby had one the other day in school because she made a " Z " backwards during her reading & writing part. She was out of control. They couldnt calm her down- noone. They even called her OT (whom Abby has had for 3 years and knows and likes very well). They called me at home to come up there and while I was driving up there they called Ellen her PPI teacher who gave them some ideas that helped. She was crying unconsolably-all over a " Z " . I am awaiting a call from her pediatrician this morning. We have tried all sort of therapies and ideas. However it not just the autism, most of her family grandparents or aunts or someone has bi-polar, depression, anxiety/panic attacks. Genetics can and do play a big factor in this. Abbys " Z " incident is by no means the first one and when she is getting overwhelmed she goes in the bathroom and cries. I wont have this. Why should she have to live like this? If meds work-fine, I dont see a problem with easing my childs pain that she is feeling. Since these attacks started she has backslide in school and her the social skills she had are becoming non-existant. I dont feel like I would be druging my child. When all other possibilities are exhausted then I feel like I have to do what I have to do. I dont have time to experiment with all differant natural things and one therpies after another. Abby is falling apart at the seam NOW. I will not prolong that. I give her a month before she has a complete breakdown. If meds help her then I am more then willing to give them to her. Pennie Abby's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Actually though, The teachers arent putting any pressure on Abby, deep down inside she feels she must be perfect. Where she gets this from I will never know. We have NEVER put pressure on her to be this way. We are adding more OT, we will see if that helps. Considering medication, we will see. I have lots to think about. Pennie Abby's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 i used to do this. it was because i was trying so hard to please and to do things the right way. no matter how hard i tried, it would be wrong and i would have to try again. i just could not understand why other people could do it and they did not seem to try. at the same time, i was noticing many other differences, and i believed that i was insane and was trying to hide this from the world. to be 5 and to think you are mad is not an easy way to live. luckily my father noticed what was going on and recognized that i was putting myself under too much pressure. he could be very fierce and made my teacher back off. he helped me by giving me fun things to play with, like tweezers and tiny beads to thread in repeating patterns. these helped fine motor skills. about a year after the teacher stopped trying to make me do neat work, my work got neater. maybe i was more relaxed as well as having better fine motor skills. i am lucky though. my father always knew absolutely that no matter how badly i was doing, it was my best effort, and he insisted that other people respect that. Message: 5 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 09:28:15 EDT From: Ploveabby@... Subject: Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds nancy grace, I agree with you. When a child has a anxiety attack because things arent perfect ex: Abby had one the other day in school because she made a " Z " backwards during her reading & writing part. She was out of control. They couldnt calm her down- noone. They even called her OT (whom Abby has had for 3 years and knows and likes very well). They called me at home to come up there and while I was driving up there they called Ellen her PPI teacher who gave them some ideas that helped. She was crying unconsolably-all over a " Z " . I am awaiting a call from her pediatrician this morning. We have tried all sort of therapies and ideas. However it not just the autism, most of her family grandparents or aunts or someone has bi-polar, depression, anxiety/panic attacks. Genetics can and do play a big factor in this. Abbys " Z " incident is by no means the first one and when she is getting overwhelmed she goes in the bathroom and cries. I wont have this. Why should she have to live like this? If meds work-fine, I dont see a problem with easing my childs pain that she is feeling. Since these attacks started she has backslide in school and her the social skills she had are becoming non-existant. I dont feel like I would be druging my child. When all other possibilities are exhausted then I feel like I have to do what I have to do. I dont have time to experiment with all differant natural things and one therpies after another. Abby is falling apart at the seam NOW. I will not prolong that. I give her a month before she has a complete breakdown. If meds help her then I am more then willing to give them to her. Pennie Abby's Mom __________________________________________________________________ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 you never know where Abby gets her perfect attitude?????hmmm what is wrong with this picture Let me see if I can find any private emails you talked about things and publish them on this list -- Re: RE: Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds Actually though, The teachers arent putting any pressure on Abby, deep down inside she feels she must be perfect. Where she gets this from I will never know. We have NEVER put pressure on her to be this way. We are adding more OT, we will see if that helps. Considering medication, we will see. I have lots to think about. Pennie Abby's Mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2003 Report Share Posted September 27, 2003 Sorry Pennie. I am not perfect either. This was sent out of anger and not out of respect. This also will not happen again to you Pennie. -------Original Message------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 In a message dated 9/27/03 9:13:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cheezer@... writes: > I don't know what exactly what is meant by this. When pennie was talking about Abby being perfectionist, it didn't mean she is perfect or try's to be. It means she feels aggravated if she cant do what the other children find easy to do. please do not bring our children or others that aren't involved into a disagreement or fight between adults. our children have enough to deal with and we have enough to deal with their problems without having to feel we have to protect our children from being 'bashed on-line " as some one said agree to disagree, or just let others comments go (ignore them). if you have a problem with what an adult said say I was hurt. When they say IM sorry. Accept it as sincere and let it go. Please leave my child out of it. Thank you. Abby's dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 didnt I apologize already. Pennie and I apologized to each other. Thanks for getting involved Charlene -- Re: RE: Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds In a message dated 9/27/03 9:13:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cheezer@... writes: > I don't know what exactly what is meant by this. When pennie was talking about Abby being perfectionist, it didn't mean she is perfect or try's to be It means she feels aggravated if she cant do what the other children find easy to do. please do not bring our children or others that aren't involved into a disagreement or fight between adults. our children have enough to deal with and we have enough to deal with their problems without having to feel we have to protect our children from being 'bashed on-line " as some one said agree to disagree, or just let others comments go (ignore them). if you have a problem with what an adult said say I was hurt. When they say IM sorry. Accept it as sincere and let it go. Please leave my child out of it. Thank you. Abby's dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 Thank you Charlene, I appreciate it let talk of something positive. like we are taking abby on vaction, upnorth michigan. the leaves are starting to change colors it should make for some nice picture taking. abbys dad eric groups.com, " hello " <cheezer@s...> wrote: > didnt I apologize already. Pennie and I apologized to each > other. Thanks for getting involved > Charlene > > -- Re: RE: Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds > > In a message dated 9/27/03 9:13:47 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > cheezer@s... writes: > > > > > > I don't know what exactly what is meant by this. When pennie was talking > about Abby being perfectionist, it didn't mean she is perfect or try's to be > It > means she feels aggravated if she cant do what the other children find easy > to do. > > please do not bring our children or others that aren't involved into a > disagreement or fight between adults. our children have enough to deal with > and we > have enough to deal with their problems without having to feel we have to > protect our children from being 'bashed on-line " as some one said agree to > disagree, or just let others comments go (ignore them). if you have a > problem with > what an adult said say I was hurt. When they say IM sorry. Accept it as > sincere and let it go. Please leave my child out of it. Thank you. > > > Abby's dad > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 28, 2003 Report Share Posted September 28, 2003 Your a positive kind of man . That sounds like a wonderful thing to do. There is nothing like sharing with your child the beauty in fall. Charlene -- Re: Re: Temple Grandin & Meds Thank you Charlene, I appreciate it let talk of something positive. like we are taking abby on vaction, upnorth michigan. the leaves are starting to change colors it should make for some nice picture taking. abbys dad eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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