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i've just bought the medisense soft sense glucose monitor, it does not have

speech but you can download the results to a PC. it is painless to use as

you can take blood from base of thum, or upper or forearmand you preload the

machine with lancet and strip, place the machine on the part you choose and

press a button. there is no problem with not getting blood on to the strip

accurately and you don't get inaccurate readings!

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> Hi all,

> Well, this is all so new to us and we are trying to get it all together.

> Are there any groups or organizations that will help with the expense of

> these items.

> We are looking at the accu-check voice mate glucose monitor.

> Thank you so much wayne for suggesting this. The thing you didn't tell us

> was that we needed to rob a bank to buy it. LOL. So now we are trying to

> gather any info we can.

> I would appreciate any feedback.

> Thanks

> Sandi

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HI,

Many monitors are completely free. Where they make

their money is in the supplies needed to complete a

blood sugar test, such as test-strips, the, um, oh

heck, what are they called, OH, lancets, to poke

your skin, y'know? Medicare will pay for some

diabetic supplies, like needles and insulin, I

think but they will not pay for supplies to keep

your diabetes in check.

If I think of resources, I'll comment more.

HTH,

Everett

At 05:12 PM 12/7/2002, you wrote:

>Hi all,

>Well, this is all so new to us and we are trying to get it all together.

>Are there any groups or organizations that will help with the expense of

>these items.

>We are looking at the accu-check voice mate glucose monitor.

>Thank you so much wayne for suggesting this. The thing you didn't tell us

>was that we needed to rob a bank to buy it. LOL. So now we are trying to

>gather any info we can.

>I would appreciate any feedback.

>Thanks

>Sandi

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Hi Sandy, I remember you from another list I think. As far as I know,

there are not any organizations that buy that kind of equipment for

diabetics. Kaiser insurance bought the only one I have ever had, the

Freedom 2, and I had to fight with them to get them to do it. They wanted

me to be insulin dependent before they would buy it, and I wasn't at the

time. Good luck to you, sorry I couldn't help. LaWanda

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> Many monitors are completely free. Where they make

> their money is in the supplies needed to complete a

> blood sugar test, such as test-strips...

This is true but depending on where you live, what local, state and

federal programs you have, and what insurance you have, you can often

get the test strips and lancets free too. If you want to give those

details here maybe someone in your area or circumstances can offer

suggestions but your best bet would be to ask your doctor for

recommendations.

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LaWanda,

Yes, I remember you from the weight watchers list. Have you done anything

with WW?

I sure hope this isn't a big fight, time will tell.

Right now Rick isn't checking his blood sugar since we don't have a

monitor. He told the doctor's nurse yesterday and if he had a problem with

it to let us know and we haven't heard from him yet.

Sandi

At 03:36 PM 12/7/02 -0800, you wrote:

>Hi Sandy, I remember you from another list I think. As far as I know,

>there are not any organizations that buy that kind of equipment for

>diabetics. Kaiser insurance bought the only one I have ever had, the

>Freedom 2, and I had to fight with them to get them to do it. They wanted

>me to be insulin dependent before they would buy it, and I wasn't at the

>time. Good luck to you, sorry I couldn't help. LaWanda

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The best time of the year to buy meters is November National Diabetic

Month...also Walgreen Drugs has there own meter (made by someone else) that

is nearly free...you should be able to get a meter for $20 after rebates at

the most...they make their money selling you the strips.

> We are looking at the accu-check voice mate glucose monitor.

> Thank you so much wayne for suggesting this. The thing you didn't tell us

> was that we needed to rob a bank to buy it. LOL. So now we are trying to

> gather any info we can.

>

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Oh yes Medicare will too pay for supplies! That's how I get mine. I

certainly couldn't afford them myself. You have to get a letter from

your doctor, though, sent to the supply place that Medicare supports. I

also got a meter from this same place. The doctor has to tell them how

often you test to get the correct number of strips. I am not on

insulin, but I bet they'd pay for that too. You get enough to last you

three months at a time.

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Medicare *does* pay for testing materials? Yippee!

I have constantly been told they don't. I've been

listening to the wrong people, and letting the

wrong things sink-in, as usual, it seems. Sigh.

Thanks!

Everett

At 08:09 PM 12/7/2002, you wrote:

>Oh yes Medicare will too pay for supplies! That's how I get mine. I

>certainly couldn't afford them myself. You have to get a letter from

>your doctor, though, sent to the supply place that Medicare supports. I

>also got a meter from this same place. The doctor has to tell them how

>often you test to get the correct number of strips. I am not on

>insulin, but I bet they'd pay for that too. You get enough to last you

>three months at a time.

>

>visit the AnimalCommunicationsList

>

>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AnimalCommunicationsList

>

>Checked for viruses by AVG version 6.

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>Phyllis s, & Lea,

>The fearless guide dog

>With her kitty family

>CAMBMMIIBS

>(*P*), (*C*(*), (*F*) &

>(*P*)

>see them here:

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>http://www.gataiada.com/phyllis

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>MAILTO:CatLady12@...

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> " They say love is blind... and marriage is an institution.

>Well, I'm not ready for an institution for the blind just

>yet. "

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> -Mae West

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As a general rule, it isn't the monitor that costs so much money, it's the

adaptive end of it that does. Case in point, I knew that I could get a

monitor that doesn't speak for somewhere between $20 and $50, depending on

the one I bought. The one I ended up getting, and only because it would

talk, cost $700 and I'm glad that I didn't have to pay for it. LaWanda

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, I am interested in the Medisense meter that you said you have

purchased. When I asked my diabetic educator about a similar meter, she said

she thought it might be difficult for a totally blind person to load the

strip and the lancet. The company is supposed to send me some literature

and a video but I haven't received it yet. Have you used the meter? Is it

difficult to set up? Could a totally blind do it? I am using the Sure Step

with the speech module and am doing fairly well with it but I am

occasionally getting error messages. It sounds like this could be easy to

use.

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>

>

> > Hi all,

> > Well, this is all so new to us and we are trying to get it all together.

> > Are there any groups or organizations that will help with the expense of

> > these items.

> > We are looking at the accu-check voice mate glucose monitor.

> > Thank you so much wayne for suggesting this. The thing you didn't tell

us

> > was that we needed to rob a bank to buy it. LOL. So now we are trying to

> > gather any info we can.

> > I would appreciate any feedback.

> > Thanks

> > Sandi

> >

> > ----------

> >

> >

> > ---

> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 12/2/02

> >

> >

> >

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Medicare pays only 80% of strips, lancets, and meters. they will pay 80%

toward a meter once in a 12-month period. Lilly has a program where you pay

$12 for a 30-day perscription. If you have a good relationship with your

doc, they just might have bottles of insulin to dispense for various

reasons. I get Lantus 3 or 4 bottles at a time for a reason I am not clear

on, but it may have something to do with it's relative newness and the

interest in getting it out there. Not sure, but it doesn't hurt to ask.

The Lilly pens btw are a good deal with the $12 Lilly program I forgot to

say. Some states and counties allow for supplemental insurance with

Medicare, but these are apparently few and far between. If you are

fortunate enough to be able to have supplemental Medicare insurance, and

the cost is much less than the amount of supplies you need, that's a good

deal. Especially if you are interested in something like the Voicemate. I

got mine 4 years ago or so when I had a supplemental package, and I paid 0

for what the paperwork stated cost around $900!

While I'm at it, if you are interested in obtaining other perscription

drugs for a very small co-pay, or usually nothing, go to www.needymeds.com

and look up your particular drug(s). If your drug is listed, it means the

manufacturer offers a medical assistance program for it to those who meet

certain financial requirements. Your doc office may also have someone who

works specifically with medical assistance programs. Oh, I forget, but if

needymeds.com doesn't work, try .org.

Dave

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> Medicare *does* pay for testing materials? Yippee!

> I have constantly been told they don't. I've been

> listening to the wrong people, and letting the

> wrong things sink-in, as usual, it seems. Sigh.

>

> Thanks!

> Everett

>

> At 08:09 PM 12/7/2002, you wrote:

> >Oh yes Medicare will too pay for supplies! That's how I get mine. I

> >certainly couldn't afford them myself. You have to get a letter from

> >your doctor, though, sent to the supply place that Medicare supports. I

> >also got a meter from this same place. The doctor has to tell them how

> >often you test to get the correct number of strips. I am not on

> >insulin, but I bet they'd pay for that too. You get enough to last you

> >three months at a time.

> >

> >visit the AnimalCommunicationsList

> >

> >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AnimalCommunicationsList

> >

> >Checked for viruses by AVG version 6.

> >

> >Phyllis s, & Lea,

> >The fearless guide dog

> >With her kitty family

> >CAMBMMIIBS

> >(*P*), (*C*(*), (*F*) &

> >(*P*)

> >see them here:

> >

> >http://www.gataiada.com/phyllis

> >

> >MAILTO:CatLady12@...

> >

> > " They say love is blind... and marriage is an institution.

> >Well, I'm not ready for an institution for the blind just

> >yet. "

> >

> > -Mae West

> >

> >

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the meter is not too difficult to use, if you are reasonably dexterous you

wouldn't have any problems. it's virtually painless to use! pity it does not

have speech but if you have a pc, the pc programme works ok for uploading

info from the device to the pc.

you'd need sighted assistance to set the machine up initially for setting up

the time and date functions and switching on the audible tones for errors

etc.

good luck!

Cheers

paul.leake@...

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> >

> >

> > > Hi all,

> > > Well, this is all so new to us and we are trying to get it all

together.

> > > Are there any groups or organizations that will help with the expense

of

> > > these items.

> > > We are looking at the accu-check voice mate glucose monitor.

> > > Thank you so much wayne for suggesting this. The thing you didn't

tell

> us

> > > was that we needed to rob a bank to buy it. LOL. So now we are trying

to

> > > gather any info we can.

> > > I would appreciate any feedback.

> > > Thanks

> > > Sandi

> > >

> > > ----------

> > >

> > >

> > > ---

> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > Version: 6.0.426 / Virus Database: 239 - Release Date: 12/2/02

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Sandy,

MediCare wil pay for at least 80 percent of your glycose moniter and strips.

If you have another insuracne such as mediCaid (called Medi-Cal in

California), it will pay for the rest. Any health insuracne should pay for

the machine with a doctor.'s perscription that states you are a diabetic and

need to do blood sugars to moniter your progress or regulate insulin dosage.

Sometime you have to really get aggressive with the insuracnce company,

however!

help with expenses

Hi all,

Well, this is all so new to us and we are trying to get it all together.

Are there any groups or organizations that will help with the expense of

these items.

We are looking at the accu-check voice mate glucose monitor.

Thank you so much wayne for suggesting this. The thing you didn't tell us

was that we needed to rob a bank to buy it. LOL. So now we are trying to

gather any info we can.

I would appreciate any feedback.

Thanks

Sandi

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