Re: re migraine treatments

[Guest guest]

I know what you mean aboutthe hormones, mary, mine cluster (up to one

per day for a week) aroudn my day 1 and around day 18 of my cycle...

when they hit my Fibromyalgia is very bad

but then PMS and Fibro are both slow brain wave disorders, so everything

gets worse at that time for me, including cognition and mood swings

dani

maryapb wrote:

> I have had occasional migraines (1-4x year) since the birth of my

> first child when I was 24.

>

> They really freak me out as I get this weird zig zaggy aura that

> can last from 20 minutes to off and on 5 hours. I also get nausea

> and lightheaded. I have been told that they may get better when I

> hip menopause but I'm not counting on this.

>

> I use Imitrex nasal spray when it first hits and two advil

> gelcaps. I am really strict about regular hours and sleep times.

> Even if I stayed up later than usual, I set the alarm to wake me up

> at the same time every day and only vary by about 1/2 half hour. I

> use the rule of too's: try not to be too hungry, tired,stressed,

> angry or happy.

>

> As I have a bit of a short fuse, this is challenging. Also I get

> easily stressed over minor things. But the key is to try this stuff

> and I have had a reduction in the frequency and severity since I

> started to do all of the above.

>

> Diet doesn't seem to affect them but hormones do: not much I can do

> about that.

>

> Hope this is useful.

>

> Patience

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've found many of the same things to be true for me. The things that I can

almost guarantee will result in a migraine for me are letting my blood sugar

get out of control, not getting enough sleep, and having a period. The

first two I can control. The third one I just have to plan for.

My doctor recently attended a conference on migraines, and apparently one of

the big " new findings " was that lack of sleep is probably the most common

migraine trigger. She took me off the high blood pressure medicine I had

been taking to prevent migraines (which wasn't very effective), and

prescribed trazodone at bedtime instead. It's been extremely effective so

far.

I don't really get a visual aura, but I do get bitchy and short-fused

several hours before I have a migraine. Also, my proprioceptive sense gets

all screwed up.

> I have had occasional migraines (1-4x year) since the birth of my

> first child when I was 24.

>

> They really freak me out as I get this weird zig zaggy aura that

> can last from 20 minutes to off and on 5 hours. I also get nausea

> and lightheaded. I have been told that they may get better when I

> hip menopause but I'm not counting on this.

>

> I use Imitrex nasal spray when it first hits and two advil

> gelcaps. I am really strict about regular hours and sleep times.

> Even if I stayed up later than usual, I set the alarm to wake me up

> at the same time every day and only vary by about 1/2 half hour. I

> use the rule of too's: try not to be too hungry, tired,stressed,

> angry or happy.

>

> As I have a bit of a short fuse, this is challenging. Also I get

> easily stressed over minor things. But the key is to try this stuff

> and I have had a reduction in the frequency and severity since I

> started to do all of the above.

>

> Diet doesn't seem to affect them but hormones do: not much I can do

> about that.

>

> Hope this is useful.

>

> Patience

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You have cluster headaches, too? Do you get the nasal congestion that

usually goes along with them? I do, and there seems to be a very strong

link between my nose/sinuses and the spot that my migraines happen.

Re: re migraine treatments

> I know what you mean aboutthe hormones, mary, mine cluster (up to one

> per day for a week) aroudn my day 1 and around day 18 of my cycle...

> when they hit my Fibromyalgia is very bad

>

> but then PMS and Fibro are both slow brain wave disorders, so everything

> gets worse at that time for me, including cognition and mood swings

>

> dani

>

> maryapb wrote:

>

> > I have had occasional migraines (1-4x year) since the birth of my

> > first child when I was 24.

> >

> > They really freak me out as I get this weird zig zaggy aura that

> > can last from 20 minutes to off and on 5 hours. I also get nausea

> > and lightheaded. I have been told that they may get better when I

> > hip menopause but I'm not counting on this.

> >

> > I use Imitrex nasal spray when it first hits and two advil

> > gelcaps. I am really strict about regular hours and sleep times.

> > Even if I stayed up later than usual, I set the alarm to wake me up

> > at the same time every day and only vary by about 1/2 half hour. I

> > use the rule of too's: try not to be too hungry, tired,stressed,

> > angry or happy.

> >

> > As I have a bit of a short fuse, this is challenging. Also I get

> > easily stressed over minor things. But the key is to try this stuff

> > and I have had a reduction in the frequency and severity since I

> > started to do all of the above.

> >

> > Diet doesn't seem to affect them but hormones do: not much I can do

> > about that.

> >

> > Hope this is useful.

> >

> > Patience

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

this news about sleep is not good -(shoot) but good info to have...

Rakus wrote:

> I've found many of the same things to be true for me. The things that

> I can

> almost guarantee will result in a migraine for me are letting my blood

> sugar

> get out of control, not getting enough sleep, and having a period. The

> first two I can control. The third one I just have to plan for.

yeah I haven't been eating well at all, maybe that is another thing I

need to watch

>

> My doctor recently attended a conference on migraines, and apparently

> one of

> the big " new findings " was that lack of sleep is probably the most common

> migraine trigger. She took me off the high blood pressure medicine I had

> been taking to prevent migraines (which wasn't very effective), and

> prescribed trazodone at bedtime instead. It's been extremely effective so

> far.

okay that is a nightmare for me to hear, as a fibromite I don't ever get

rested, and I am unable to take almost all sedating substances die to

either sensitivites or stomach trouble. if I take an eight of a

trazadone three days running I will be in a thorazine like haze that

takes days to go away...

but I am so glad you've found the traz works...

>

> I don't really get a visual aura, but I do get bitchy and short-fused

> several hours before I have a migraine. Also, my proprioceptive sense

> gets

> all screwed up.

all of the above for me, the frustrating part is not knowing what's

causing it until the head pain hits... I get all of thie stuff without

the miigraines too -0 altho I admit since the migranal is covered, and

it does work on the prodomal symptoms, that I had been using it " just in

case " at times when I am not sure of the source of my symptoms. but you

emila is a good reminder foir me to keep track of my symptoms for a

while... my fibro has been real bad lately and it is including all of

the above, and I haven't been doing the migranals for the prodome???

time to keep track of my meds again... sigh. isn't it sometiems so time

consuming....?

dani

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I have had occasional migraines (1-4x year) since the birth of my

> > first child when I was 24.

> >

> > They really freak me out as I get this weird zig zaggy aura that

> > can last from 20 minutes to off and on 5 hours. I also get nausea

> > and lightheaded. I have been told that they may get better when I

> > hip menopause but I'm not counting on this.

> >

> > I use Imitrex nasal spray when it first hits and two advil

> > gelcaps. I am really strict about regular hours and sleep times.

> > Even if I stayed up later than usual, I set the alarm to wake me up

> > at the same time every day and only vary by about 1/2 half hour. I

> > use the rule of too's: try not to be too hungry, tired,stressed,

> > angry or happy.

> >

> > As I have a bit of a short fuse, this is challenging. Also I get

> > easily stressed over minor things. But the key is to try this stuff

> > and I have had a reduction in the frequency and severity since I

> > started to do all of the above.

> >

> > Diet doesn't seem to affect them but hormones do: not much I can do

> > about that.

> >

> > Hope this is useful.

> >

> > Patience

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

ummm, no (what is a cluster headaches I probably get them too) -

I think what I meant is I only get the migraines daily for a week around

those points of my cycle - so they are migraines that cluster... is that

more clear...

I have sever sinus problems - it defeintaly triggers the migraines when

I'm infec4tedd - I had surgery last year, and the only difference is

now if I use breathing strips and anithistiamine and cortisone nasal

spray and do all three every day, that I can avoid getting infected...

also I get some that stem from the TMJ (temporomandibular jaw syndrome)

Rakus wrote:

> You have cluster headaches, too? Do you get the nasal congestion that

> usually goes along with them? I do, and there seems to be a very strong

> link between my nose/sinuses and the spot that my migraines happen.

>

>

>

>

> Re: re migraine treatments

>

>

> > I know what you mean aboutthe hormones, mary, mine cluster (up to one

> > per day for a week) aroudn my day 1 and around day 18 of my cycle...

> > when they hit my Fibromyalgia is very bad

> >

> > but then PMS and Fibro are both slow brain wave disorders, so everything

> > gets worse at that time for me, including cognition and mood swings

> >

> > dani

> >

> > maryapb wrote:

> >

> > > I have had occasional migraines (1-4x year) since the birth of my

> > > first child when I was 24.

> > >

> > > They really freak me out as I get this weird zig zaggy aura that

> > > can last from 20 minutes to off and on 5 hours. I also get nausea

> > > and lightheaded. I have been told that they may get better when I

> > > hip menopause but I'm not counting on this.

> > >

> > > I use Imitrex nasal spray when it first hits and two advil

> > > gelcaps. I am really strict about regular hours and sleep times.

> > > Even if I stayed up later than usual, I set the alarm to wake me up

> > > at the same time every day and only vary by about 1/2 half hour. I

> > > use the rule of too's: try not to be too hungry, tired,stressed,

> > > angry or happy.

> > >

> > > As I have a bit of a short fuse, this is challenging. Also I get

> > > easily stressed over minor things. But the key is to try this stuff

> > > and I have had a reduction in the frequency and severity since I

> > > started to do all of the above.

> > >

> > > Diet doesn't seem to affect them but hormones do: not much I can do

> > > about that.

> > >

> > > Hope this is useful.

> > >

> > > Patience

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

At 09:05 AM 9/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:

>ummm, no (what is a cluster headaches I probably get them too) -

Oh You'd KNOW!!!!!

been there, done that....

-jypsy

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[Guest guest]

:-\ ;-)

I guess you're right, I have so many types of pain, I just don't learn

to label them all, and always like more info...

jypsy [ janet norman-bain ] wrote:

> At 09:05 AM 9/15/2003 -0700, you wrote:

> >ummm, no (what is a cluster headaches I probably get them too) -

>

> Oh You'd KNOW!!!!!

> been there, done that....

>

> -jypsy

>

>

> ________________________________

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> Autism Spectrum Resources

> www.PlanetAutism.com

> jypsy@...

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

unfortunately I have tried many natural rememdies for sleep and other

things and they are also ineffective, as well as expensive... melatonin

is banned here, I so I would have to order from the states and so really

expensive...

with my budget now there is no way I can experiment... but maybe in the

future...

:|

dani

maryapb wrote:

> I forgot to mention that I have been also taking melatonin at

> bedtime for the past 7 years.

>

> My doctor seemed to say it could improve some migraines and at the

> least it couldn't hurt. Maybe this would be less invasive than

> actual sedative medications, it is supposed to help promote good

> sleep and it works for me anyway.

>

> Patience

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Rakchel wrote:

> I forgot to mention that I have been also taking melatonin at

>bedtime for the past 7 years.

I've been taking feverfew capsules for some months now. The

feverfew seems to raise one's " migraine threshhold. "

Jane

[Guest guest]

I take Immitrex for my migraines. Damn pills cost more than gold of the same

weight. $189 for NINE pills!

At first I did the pill, then I had to do the spray, then the shot, as stress

got worse and worse. I didn't do well giving myself the shot, and I often had

to go to the doctor's office. This was not my regular doctor, but one in

Seattle. They wouldn't do it finally, as they insisted I should be able to give

myself a shot.

I also go to the Chiropractor, who does some electrostim, adjustments, etc. One

guy told me to stretch my neck, as this is the start of the problem. I tilt my

head to the right, looking straight ahead and let it hang for 15 seconds. I do

this three times, on the right and left sides. Then I hang my head down for 15

sec., and do it like the others, and the head-lift is a very slight looking up

for 15 sec, etc. I'm suppose to do it 3x a day, 3x each session a total of 9x

per day.

Tension goes from my shoulders, to my neck and then to my head- ouch! I get the

all around tension headache with nausea and meanness, nasty attitude and I get

the eye headaches- clusters in one eye. It feels like needles in my eye.

I also get sleep- apnea headaches when I fall asleep without my mask. Or if I

drink Champagne- ONE GLASS and the next morning I have a headache, no matter if

it's right before bed or hours before bed.

That's another thing that makes me nuts- one glass of wine lasts 5 hours! If I

have the recommended 1 glass per hour, I am beyond buzzed- and I will get a

splitting migraine the next day.

It's very hard because everyone wants me to drink, to the point where I don't

have a choice at social events.

I've learned to like a little wine, especially since I've been very stressed

these past 2 years. It helps relax me, and stop the think train running through

my head. I like to feel a little buzzed, but I really hate being plastered- you

can't do anything and you act like a moron. I'd have to have my wine at 4 pm

with my dinner, and at 12 am I may still feel it in my sleep.

When I've gone on trips- I've been pressured to drink, and my dad wanted me to

have whiskey at the age of 5. Needless to say, I didn't do it!!

When I went to England on a Rick-Steve's tour, I kept saying NO I DON'T WANT TO

DRINK!! It affects my sleep. I had taken a very brave and bold move- went

alone, as a single woman, on this tour group because it was small (13 of us),

and highly recommended. I couldn't believe how much push all my roommates gave

me to drink- how I was a party pooper, etc. even though it affected my sleep and

I told them so.

One night was medieval night. I finally gave in, as they were serving " Mead " , a

medieval honey-wine - sweet and tasty. I had too much, we all did, acted like

nuts, and some people took my picture while I was plastered. My face was red

and chubby looking! The next day I was barely alert, and had a blistering

headache. Did they care then? NO!

I haven't had a really bad headache in a while.

Acupuncture I hear also works for a lot of people.

Jeanette

Re: re migraine treatments

Rakchel wrote:

> I forgot to mention that I have been also taking melatonin at

>bedtime for the past 7 years.

I've been taking feverfew capsules for some months now. The

feverfew seems to raise one's " migraine threshhold. "

Jane

[Guest guest]

Jeanette wrote:

> I take Immitrex for my migraines. Damn

> pills cost more than gold of the same

> weight. $189 for NINE pills!

Wow, how do they justify such a high price

for a little pill?

> That's another thing that makes me nuts-

> one glass of wine lasts 5 hours! If I

> have the recommended 1 glass per hour,

> I am beyond buzzed- and I will get a

> splitting migraine the next day.

I guess I should be thankful that I don't

get migraines, and rarely have an ordinary

headache, in fact. But I find that red

wine in particular can give me a roaring

cluster headache, starting with tight muscles

at the back of the neck, and working its way

up to the base of the skull, and feeling like

a knot of pain. So I seldom drink even wine.

The other thing that gets me going is fluorescent

lights, which give me a headache behind my eyes.

If exposed too long, I get a pain at the top of

the head like a spike being driven down, a little

to the left side. That's the worst I've ever had,

and now that I know about aspies' sensitivity to

fluorescent lights, I just avoid them. My sympathies

to all those who get migraine headaches.

Clay

[Guest guest]

Cluster headaches are basically migraines that come in clusters at generally

predictable intervals. I always get two, and they come on consecutive days.

They are more commen in men than in women, and one of the distinguishing

characteristics of cluster headaches is that there is almost always

nasal/sinus congsetion on the same side as the headache.

One of the ways that I know for sure when I have a sinus infection is lots

of migraines.

> ummm, no (what is a cluster headaches I probably get them too) -

>

> I think what I meant is I only get the migraines daily for a week around

> those points of my cycle - so they are migraines that cluster... is that

> more clear...

>

> I have sever sinus problems - it defeintaly triggers the migraines when

> I'm infec4tedd - I had surgery last year, and the only difference is

> now if I use breathing strips and anithistiamine and cortisone nasal

> spray and do all three every day, that I can avoid getting infected...

>

> also I get some that stem from the TMJ (temporomandibular jaw syndrome)

>

>

>

> Rakus wrote:

>

> > You have cluster headaches, too? Do you get the nasal congestion that

> > usually goes along with them? I do, and there seems to be a very strong

> > link between my nose/sinuses and the spot that my migraines happen.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Re: re migraine treatments

> >

> >

> > > I know what you mean aboutthe hormones, mary, mine cluster (up to one

> > > per day for a week) aroudn my day 1 and around day 18 of my cycle...

> > > when they hit my Fibromyalgia is very bad

> > >

> > > but then PMS and Fibro are both slow brain wave disorders, so

everything

> > > gets worse at that time for me, including cognition and mood swings

> > >

> > > dani

> > >

> > > maryapb wrote:

> > >

> > > > I have had occasional migraines (1-4x year) since the birth of my

> > > > first child when I was 24.

> > > >

> > > > They really freak me out as I get this weird zig zaggy aura that

> > > > can last from 20 minutes to off and on 5 hours. I also get nausea

> > > > and lightheaded. I have been told that they may get better when I

> > > > hip menopause but I'm not counting on this.

> > > >

> > > > I use Imitrex nasal spray when it first hits and two advil

> > > > gelcaps. I am really strict about regular hours and sleep times.

> > > > Even if I stayed up later than usual, I set the alarm to wake me up

> > > > at the same time every day and only vary by about 1/2 half hour. I

> > > > use the rule of too's: try not to be too hungry, tired,stressed,

> > > > angry or happy.

> > > >

> > > > As I have a bit of a short fuse, this is challenging. Also I get

> > > > easily stressed over minor things. But the key is to try this stuff

> > > > and I have had a reduction in the frequency and severity since I

> > > > started to do all of the above.

> > > >

> > > > Diet doesn't seem to affect them but hormones do: not much I can do

> > > > about that.

> > > >

> > > > Hope this is useful.

> > > >

> > > > Patience

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Have you tried melatonin? I used it for a while, and it helped a bit. With

your sensitivity to sedating drugs, maybe it would be effective for you.

> this news about sleep is not good -(shoot) but good info to have...

>

> Rakus wrote:

>

> > I've found many of the same things to be true for me. The things that

> > I can

> > almost guarantee will result in a migraine for me are letting my blood

> > sugar

> > get out of control, not getting enough sleep, and having a period. The

> > first two I can control. The third one I just have to plan for.

>

>

> yeah I haven't been eating well at all, maybe that is another thing I

> need to watch

>

> >

> > My doctor recently attended a conference on migraines, and apparently

> > one of

> > the big " new findings " was that lack of sleep is probably the most

common

> > migraine trigger. She took me off the high blood pressure medicine I

had

> > been taking to prevent migraines (which wasn't very effective), and

> > prescribed trazodone at bedtime instead. It's been extremely effective

so

> > far.

>

> okay that is a nightmare for me to hear, as a fibromite I don't ever get

> rested, and I am unable to take almost all sedating substances die to

> either sensitivites or stomach trouble. if I take an eight of a

> trazadone three days running I will be in a thorazine like haze that

> takes days to go away...

>

> but I am so glad you've found the traz works...

>

> >

> > I don't really get a visual aura, but I do get bitchy and short-fused

> > several hours before I have a migraine. Also, my proprioceptive sense

> > gets

> > all screwed up.

>

>

> all of the above for me, the frustrating part is not knowing what's

> causing it until the head pain hits... I get all of thie stuff without

> the miigraines too -0 altho I admit since the migranal is covered, and

> it does work on the prodomal symptoms, that I had been using it " just in

> case " at times when I am not sure of the source of my symptoms. but you

> emila is a good reminder foir me to keep track of my symptoms for a

> while... my fibro has been real bad lately and it is including all of

> the above, and I haven't been doing the migranals for the prodome???

> time to keep track of my meds again... sigh. isn't it sometiems so time

> consuming....?

>

> dani

>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > I have had occasional migraines (1-4x year) since the birth of my

> > > first child when I was 24.

> > >

> > > They really freak me out as I get this weird zig zaggy aura that

> > > can last from 20 minutes to off and on 5 hours. I also get nausea

> > > and lightheaded. I have been told that they may get better when I

> > > hip menopause but I'm not counting on this.

> > >

> > > I use Imitrex nasal spray when it first hits and two advil

> > > gelcaps. I am really strict about regular hours and sleep times.

> > > Even if I stayed up later than usual, I set the alarm to wake me up

> > > at the same time every day and only vary by about 1/2 half hour. I

> > > use the rule of too's: try not to be too hungry, tired,stressed,

> > > angry or happy.

> > >

> > > As I have a bit of a short fuse, this is challenging. Also I get

> > > easily stressed over minor things. But the key is to try this stuff

> > > and I have had a reduction in the frequency and severity since I

> > > started to do all of the above.

> > >

> > > Diet doesn't seem to affect them but hormones do: not much I can do

> > > about that.

> > >

> > > Hope this is useful.

> > >

> > > Patience

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

> I guess I should be thankful that I don't

> get migraines, and rarely have an ordinary

> headache, in fact. But I find that red

> wine in particular can give me a roaring

> cluster headache, starting with tight muscles

> at the back of the neck, and working its way

> up to the base of the skull, and feeling like

> a knot of pain. So I seldom drink even wine.

> The other thing that gets me going is fluorescent

> lights, which give me a headache behind my eyes.

> If exposed too long, I get a pain at the top of

> the head like a spike being driven down, a little

> to the left side. That's the worst I've ever had,

> and now that I know about aspies' sensitivity to

> fluorescent lights, I just avoid them. My sympathies

> to all those who get migraine headaches.

>

> Clay

I love red wine...but it hates me! I finally figured out that I must be

allergic to the nitrates, so now when I have red wine, I take half a

Benadryl about 10 minutes before, and then have a big glass of water after.

Not really a recommended combination (Benadryl and wine, that is), but it

works for me.

I also have a problem with beer because I'm allergic to hops. Benadryl and

water help with that, too.

As for fluorescent lights...ack! We moved into a new house three years

ago. It was a spec house, so we didn't have any input into the decor. The

kitchen had a big fluorescent light, and all the walls were painted white.

It was a nightmare! I couldn't stand being in the kitchen unless I could

make use of natural daylight. After a few months I painted the walls a

nice, soft, muted peach color, and that helped a bit, but I still hated to

be in there. I finally talked my husband into replacing the fluorescent

light a few months ago, and it is soooooo much better. The funny thing is

that my husband realized that he had been avoiding the kitchen because of

the lighting without really knowing that he was doing it.

[Guest guest]

>

> I've been taking feverfew capsules for some months now. The

> feverfew seems to raise one's " migraine threshhold. "

>

> Jane

Really? Do you know how it works? Yesterday and the day before were

migraine days for me, so I'm really interested in migraine prevention right

now ).

[Guest guest]

At 07:34 AM 9/16/2003 -0800, you wrote:

>Clay wrote:

> >Wow, how do they justify such a high price

> >for a little pill?

>

>The pharmaceutical companies don't need to " justify "

>anything. All they care about is making profits for

>their shareholders. They " have us by the short hairs "

>and take full advantage of the fact.

>

>Jane

yeah.... what she said!

-jypsy

________________________________

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Autism Spectrum Resources

www.PlanetAutism.com

jypsy@...

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>As for fluorescent lights...ack! We moved into a new house three years

>ago. It was a spec house, so we didn't have any input into the decor. The

>kitchen had a big fluorescent light, and all the walls were painted white.

>It was a nightmare!

If anyone finds time hanging heavy on their hands....I have

added to my web page a " stream of memory " account of my

recent visit to the jocal jail. The fluorescent lights there

no doubt contributed a lot to the massive migraine that

afflicted me.

Jane

[Guest guest]

Clay wrote:

>Wow, how do they justify such a high price

>for a little pill?

The pharmaceutical companies don't need to " justify "

anything. All they care about is making profits for

their shareholders. They " have us by the short hairs "

and take full advantage of the fact.

Jane

[Guest guest]

> wrote:

> >As for fluorescent lights...ack! We moved into a new house three years

> >ago. It was a spec house, so we didn't have any input into the decor.

The

> >kitchen had a big fluorescent light, and all the walls were painted

white.

> >It was a nightmare!

>

> If anyone finds time hanging heavy on their hands....I have

> added to my web page a " stream of memory " account of my

> recent visit to the jocal jail. The fluorescent lights there

> no doubt contributed a lot to the massive migraine that

> afflicted me.

>

> Jane

At my last engineering job (at Westinghouse before it disintegrated) all the

lighting was fluorescent (of course), and I averaged 3 to 4 migraines a

week. That was way back before I knew anything at all about AS and the

sensory issues that go along with it.

My sister-in-law has a fluorescent light right over her desk at work, and

every morning she climbs up on her desk and disconnects the tubes to turn

them off. She took an incandescent desk lamp in to use at her desk. The

maintenance people insist on " fixing " the light every evening.

[Guest guest]

The house we presently live in was an office complex at one time

(house converted to an office and then back to a house). Every

light in the place is fluorescent, so mornings around here are

especially stressful. I managed to replace the lights in the

bedrooms and in the bathroom where the shower/tub is. I asked my

landlord if he could buy me some replacement lights for the

kitchen, and he brought me two fluorescent overhead light boxes.

They've been in the basement for over a year now. I'm going to

have to get a cheap light fixture somewhere and take the kitchen

fluorescents out, I have to cook in there!

Louis

From: Rakus

> wrote:

> >As for fluorescent lights...ack! We moved into a new house

three years

> >ago. It was a spec house, so we didn't have any input into

the decor.

The

> >kitchen had a big fluorescent light, and all the walls were

painted

white.

> >It was a nightmare!

>

> If anyone finds time hanging heavy on their hands....I have

> added to my web page a " stream of memory " account of my

> recent visit to the jocal jail. The fluorescent lights there

> no doubt contributed a lot to the massive migraine that

> afflicted me.

>

> Jane

At my last engineering job (at Westinghouse before it

disintegrated) all the

lighting was fluorescent (of course), and I averaged 3 to 4

migraines a

week. That was way back before I knew anything at all about AS

and the

sensory issues that go along with it.

My sister-in-law has a fluorescent light right over her desk at

work, and

every morning she climbs up on her desk and disconnects the

tubes to turn

them off. She took an incandescent desk lamp in to use at her

desk. The

maintenance people insist on " fixing " the light every evening.

[Guest guest]

you can buy full spectrum flourescents, they imitate sunlight and are

cheaper than changing a fixtrure. - one reason most flourescencts bother

you, are they are only one spectrum of light, which isn't natural.

these can help with mood depression, etc. I worked in a place, where

they had these over hte cashier, and my boss said she could tell whent

he lights had taken effect on me.

dani

Louise Gainor wrote:

> The house we presently live in was an office complex at one time

> (house converted to an office and then back to a house). Every

> light in the place is fluorescent, so mornings around here are

> especially stressful. I managed to replace the lights in the

> bedrooms and in the bathroom where the shower/tub is. I asked my

> landlord if he could buy me some replacement lights for the

> kitchen, and he brought me two fluorescent overhead light boxes.

> They've been in the basement for over a year now. I'm going to

> have to get a cheap light fixture somewhere and take the kitchen

> fluorescents out, I have to cook in there!

>

> Louis

> From: Rakus

>

>

>

> > wrote:

> > >As for fluorescent lights...ack! We moved into a new house

> three years

> > >ago. It was a spec house, so we didn't have any input into

> the decor.

> The

> > >kitchen had a big fluorescent light, and all the walls were

> painted

> white.

> > >It was a nightmare!

> >

> > If anyone finds time hanging heavy on their hands....I have

> > added to my web page a " stream of memory " account of my

> > recent visit to the jocal jail. The fluorescent lights there

> > no doubt contributed a lot to the massive migraine that

> > afflicted me.

> >

> > Jane

>

> At my last engineering job (at Westinghouse before it

> disintegrated) all the

> lighting was fluorescent (of course), and I averaged 3 to 4

> migraines a

> week. That was way back before I knew anything at all about AS

> and the

> sensory issues that go along with it.

>

> My sister-in-law has a fluorescent light right over her desk at

> work, and

> every morning she climbs up on her desk and disconnects the

> tubes to turn

> them off. She took an incandescent desk lamp in to use at her

> desk. The

> maintenance people insist on " fixing " the light every evening.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Fluorescents bug me no matter what colour. I can even hear some of them.

We have had some " expert " play with lighting in our office, including

soft-white, full-spectrum, you name it. There is no such thing as natural light

from an artificial source.

I eventually moved out of that office to a quieter, darker location. What a

difference to my stress levels!

Colin.

Quoting danielle strom :

> you can buy full spectrum flourescents, they imitate sunlight and are

> cheaper than changing a fixtrure. - one reason most flourescencts bother

> you, are they are only one spectrum of light, which isn't natural.

> these can help with mood depression, etc. I worked in a place, where

> they had these over hte cashier, and my boss said she could tell whent

> he lights had taken effect on me.

>

>

>

> dani

>

> Louise Gainor wrote:

>

> > The house we presently live in was an office complex at one time

> > (house converted to an office and then back to a house). Every

> > light in the place is fluorescent, so mornings around here are

> > especially stressful. I managed to replace the lights in the

> > bedrooms and in the bathroom where the shower/tub is. I asked my

> > landlord if he could buy me some replacement lights for the

> > kitchen, and he brought me two fluorescent overhead light boxes.

> > They've been in the basement for over a year now. I'm going to

> > have to get a cheap light fixture somewhere and take the kitchen

> > fluorescents out, I have to cook in there!

> >

> > Louis

> > From: Rakus

> >

> >

> >

> > > wrote:

> > > >As for fluorescent lights...ack! We moved into a new house

> > three years

> > > >ago. It was a spec house, so we didn't have any input into

> > the decor.

> > The

> > > >kitchen had a big fluorescent light, and all the walls were

> > painted

> > white.

> > > >It was a nightmare!

> > >

> > > If anyone finds time hanging heavy on their hands....I have

> > > added to my web page a " stream of memory " account of my

> > > recent visit to the jocal jail. The fluorescent lights there

> > > no doubt contributed a lot to the massive migraine that

> > > afflicted me.

> > >

> > > Jane

> >

> > At my last engineering job (at Westinghouse before it

> > disintegrated) all the

> > lighting was fluorescent (of course), and I averaged 3 to 4

> > migraines a

> > week. That was way back before I knew anything at all about AS

> > and the

> > sensory issues that go along with it.

> >

> > My sister-in-law has a fluorescent light right over her desk at

> > work, and

> > every morning she climbs up on her desk and disconnects the

> > tubes to turn

> > them off. She took an incandescent desk lamp in to use at her

> > desk. The

> > maintenance people insist on " fixing " the light every evening.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'll check into those!

Louis

From: danielle strom

you can buy full spectrum flourescents, they imitate sunlight

and are

cheaper than changing a fixtrure. - one reason most

flourescencts bother

you, are they are only one spectrum of light, which isn't

natural.

these can help with mood depression, etc. I worked in a place,

where

they had these over hte cashier, and my boss said she could

tell whent

he lights had taken effect on me.

dani

[Guest guest]

while I agree with you, some people do find a difference with

fullspectrum lights, as in light therapy for SAD, and so I suggested it

as a low cost alterntive for people to try. I know that has helped me

in places when I could afford to replce a fixture.

It's great that you got to move out of a busy " well lit " area.... must

be so helpful.

dani

Colin Wessels wrote:

>Fluorescents bug me no matter what colour. I can even hear some of them.

>

>We have had some " expert " play with lighting in our office, including

>soft-white, full-spectrum, you name it. There is no such thing as natural

light

>from an artificial source.

>

>I eventually moved out of that office to a quieter, darker location. What a

>difference to my stress levels!

>

>Colin.

>

>Quoting danielle strom :

>

>

>

>>you can buy full spectrum flourescents, they imitate sunlight and are

>>cheaper than changing a fixtrure. - one reason most flourescencts bother

>>you, are they are only one spectrum of light, which isn't natural.

>>these can help with mood depression, etc. I worked in a place, where

>>they had these over hte cashier, and my boss said she could tell whent

>>he lights had taken effect on me.

>>

>>

>>

>>dani

>>

>>Louise Gainor wrote:

>>

>>

>>

>>>The house we presently live in was an office complex at one time

>>>(house converted to an office and then back to a house). Every

>>>light in the place is fluorescent, so mornings around here are

>>>especially stressful. I managed to replace the lights in the

>>>bedrooms and in the bathroom where the shower/tub is. I asked my

>>>landlord if he could buy me some replacement lights for the

>>>kitchen, and he brought me two fluorescent overhead light boxes.

>>>They've been in the basement for over a year now. I'm going to

>>>have to get a cheap light fixture somewhere and take the kitchen

>>>fluorescents out, I have to cook in there!

>>>

>>>Louis

>>> From: Rakus

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> > wrote:

>>> > >As for fluorescent lights...ack! We moved into a new house

>>>three years

>>> > >ago. It was a spec house, so we didn't have any input into

>>>the decor.

>>> The

>>> > >kitchen had a big fluorescent light, and all the walls were

>>>painted

>>> white.

>>> > >It was a nightmare!

>>> >

>>> > If anyone finds time hanging heavy on their hands....I have

>>> > added to my web page a " stream of memory " account of my

>>> > recent visit to the jocal jail. The fluorescent lights there

>>> > no doubt contributed a lot to the massive migraine that

>>> > afflicted me.

>>> >

>>> > Jane

>>>

>>> At my last engineering job (at Westinghouse before it

>>>disintegrated) all the

>>> lighting was fluorescent (of course), and I averaged 3 to 4

>>>migraines a

>>> week. That was way back before I knew anything at all about AS

>>>and the

>>> sensory issues that go along with it.

>>>

>>> My sister-in-law has a fluorescent light right over her desk at

>>>work, and

>>> every morning she climbs up on her desk and disconnects the

>>>tubes to turn

>>> them off. She took an incandescent desk lamp in to use at her

>>>desk. The

>>> maintenance people insist on " fixing " the light every evening.

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

Colin wrote:

>I eventually moved out of that office to a quieter, darker location. What a

>difference to my stress levels!

I don't turn on the light in my office unless I have to. People

often comment on how dark it is. Fortunately, there is a window.

I have to keep the window shade down whenever the sun is out,

because of the glare. But when I can do without the artificial

light, I do.

Jane