Re: Re: Reflux Diatom and Bacteria

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I guess it might be cleaning it but it gave me constipation (arghhhhhhhhhhhh), loading without Oxypowder, no gripes or cramps, no changes seen, been a week now. Day 5 nasty die off for several hours then stopped

Just FWIW but on my experience (2 dessert spoons per day) its not making me poop and if I was prone to back up and needing help I would not be expecting Diatom to fit the bill

Mandi x

There is a lot of magnesium both in mag tabs and epsom salt. I would stop all mag.. diatom will clean colon.. so you will not need anything else.. def stop movicol as it is toxic .. and see what happens.. Avoid cold food and drinks for him.. a little warm boiled water as a drink has a good effect on trapped winds.

Look too at the foods he is having.. avoid wind forming foods such as cabbage, cauliflower etc..

It may take a few days for his body to adjust to the detoxification by the diatom cleanse..

Best Wishes

Tracey

Hi Tracey,Sent your a post back and my computer went off line just as I sent.Think your right, been overdoing it stillon the magnesium,just paranoid about loading I guess. Also been giving him epsom salts orally.Do you think the bacteria is causing the agression? and is it worthwhile giving activated charcoal to help with the gas and die off?Kerryx> > > **> >> >> > Just posting on about H, been a bit of a nightmare this week. Dr Fell> > diagnosed reflux last Thurs after a constipation episode and said overdone> > clearout. H on 6 magnesium caps, and been reducing down his movicol,now on 2> > and started diatom on Sunday. He hasnt really been eating but not right,> > been growling and have really agressive outbursts with trapped wind. Was> > desperate last night so took him to his osteopath and he said he had gas but> > wasnt loaded but as H had hot head, hands and feet he felt there was an> > infection maybe of his sinus and his glands were swollen. The Osteopath said> > he had been swallowing his own mucus and this was causng bacteria in his> > tummy so dont know if this is causing the agression and the diatom is> > killing it and causing a big die off?? The Osteopath did some adjustments> > and hoped that he would calm down in the next couple of days, but he has had> > a huge agressive meltdown this eve which is not him. He def is not loaded.> > His poo this eve was very dark and loose and not smelling as much as the> > ones he has been doing in previous days.> >> > Just dont know what to do, keep having to give him pain relief each eve,> > got him on zantac at night, cyder vinegar and manuka honey before each meal> > and today had a delivery of Thorne Betaine and pepsin. Just worried I am> > putting him all this stuff and nothing is working!> >> > If anyone thinks the Betaine and Pepsin would help, how many caps before> > each meal.> >> > Kerryx> >> > > >>

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I rarely give it to Sam but he takes in water out of cap, I swallow the caps, I didn;t think it tasted bad, more gritty than anything else

Mx

Mandi, or anyone else, do you know of a flavoured oxy-powder or some way to flavour it so its palatable?- would prob. only need 1/2 cap to flavour-up. How do others get round the taste of o.powder? Janet

To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: Mum231ASD@...Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:34:02 -0400Subject: Re: Re: Reflux Diatom and Bacteria

I guess it might be cleaning it but it gave me constipation (arghhhhhhhhhhhh), loading without Oxypowder, no gripes or cramps, no changes seen, been a week now. Day 5 nasty die off for several hours then stopped

Just FWIW but on my experience (2 dessert spoons per day) its not making me poop and if I was prone to back up and needing help I would not be expecting Diatom to fit the bill

Mandi x

There is a lot of magnesium both in mag tabs and epsom salt. I would stop all mag.. diatom will clean colon.. so you will not need anything else.. def stop movicol as it is toxic .. and see what happens.. Avoid cold food and drinks for him.. a little warm boiled water as a drink has a good effect on trapped winds.

Look too at the foods he is having.. avoid wind forming foods such as cabbage, cauliflower etc..

It may take a few days for his body to adjust to the detoxification by the diatom cleanse..

Best Wishes

Tracey

Hi Tracey,Sent your a post back and my computer went off line just as I sent.Think your right, been overdoing it stillon the magnesium,just paranoid about loading I guess. Also been giving him epsom salts orally.Do you think the bacteria is causing the agression? and is it worthwhile giving activated charcoal to help with the gas and die off?Kerryx> > > **> >> >> > Just posting on about H, been a bit of a nightmare this week. Dr Fell> > diagnosed reflux last Thurs after a constipation episode and said overdone> > clearout. H on 6 magnesium caps, and been reducing down his movicol,now on 2> > and started diatom on Sunday. He hasnt really been eating but not right,> > been growling and have really agressive outbursts with trapped wind. Was> > desperate last night so took him to his osteopath and he said he had gas but> > wasnt loaded but as H had hot head, hands and feet he felt there was an> > infection maybe of his sinus and his glands were swollen. The Osteopath said> > he had been swallowing his own mucus and this was causng bacteria in his> > tummy so dont know if this is causing the agression and the diatom is> > killing it and causing a big die off?? The Osteopath did some adjustments> > and hoped that he would calm down in the next couple of days, but he has had> > a huge agressive meltdown this eve which is not him. He def is not loaded.> > His poo this eve was very dark and loose and not smelling as much as the> > ones he has been doing in previous days.> >> > Just dont know what to do, keep having to give him pain relief each eve,> > got him on zantac at night, cyder vinegar and manuka honey before each meal> > and today had a delivery of Thorne Betaine and pepsin. Just worried I am> > putting him all this stuff and nothing is working!> >> > If anyone thinks the Betaine and Pepsin would help, how many caps before> > each meal.> >> > Kerryx> >> > > >>

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Hi I was told by Dr Usman to be careful with ACV, it is very potent – do you dilute it first? Also as said some kids just can’t tolerate it. Nicola From: Autism-Biomedical-Europe [mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe ] On Behalf Of mbrookhSent: 02 August 2011 19:28To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Subject: Re: Reflux Diatom and Bacteria We have used many Thorne products but the Betaine and Pepsin must have some undeclared something. It provoked seizures here on 2 trials - t me that means either gluten or casein contamination. DE has been a good product for us. ACV was a no go here also fwiw, >> Just posting on about H, been a bit of a nightmare this week. Dr Fell diagnosed reflux last Thurs after a constipation episode and said overdone clearout. H on 6 magnesium caps, and been reducing down his movicol,now on 2 and started diatom on Sunday. He hasnt really been eating but not right, been growling and have really agressive outbursts with trapped wind. Was desperate last night so took him to his osteopath and he said he had gas but wasnt loaded but as H had hot head, hands and feet he felt there was an infection maybe of his sinus and his glands were swollen. The Osteopath said he had been swallowing his own mucus and this was causng bacteria in his tummy so dont know if this is causing the agression and the diatom is killing it and causing a big die off?? The Osteopath did some adjustments and hoped that he would calm down in the next couple of days, but he has had a huge agressive meltdown this eve which is not him. He def is not loaded. His poo this eve was very dark and loose and not smelling as much as the ones he has been doing in previous days.> > Just dont know what to do, keep having to give him pain relief each eve, got him on zantac at night, cyder vinegar and manuka honey before each meal and today had a delivery of Thorne Betaine and pepsin. Just worried I am putting him all this stuff and nothing is working!> > If anyone thinks the Betaine and Pepsin would help, how many caps before each meal.> > Kerryx>