Re: Does it bug you when............................

February 17, 2012

The Internet is full of " experts " and the less they know about something, the

more infinitely qualified they are to offer an expert opinion on it. What're ya

gonna do?

>

> I like to think that I am pretty open minded about exercise{excluding obvious

lies and gimmicks that the fitness world is subject to} but does it bug you when

people who have clearly never used a Bullworker have opinions about it.

>

> Now I have been training now for decades and have never made a secret of the

fact that my main exercise modality was and remains weights.However I can recall

the first time I ever used a Bullworker as a teenager and know as a matter of

fact that my muscles felt firmer after only a few days. Obviously this is the

proof of the pudding argument.

>

> Now in the course of the research that I do on exercise I have come across

some of the worse prejudgements about Bullworker on so called Bodybuilding

forums.Now I admit that those that I have dropped into{at least in my selection}

seem to be high on experts on everything and with no obvious proof about

anything or sensible argument that says anything more than- Bro that's not the

way to grow man....etc

>

> Now I have given my example do any readers of the forum have any examples of

their own that bug them?I would be very interested to hear them.These of course

might be quite personal.I would be very interested to read any contributions on

this topic.Ed

>

February 20, 2012

Best just to ignore them.

Such people often show up on forums and contribute little that is really

helpful. I often get the impression that they have too much time on their hands

and get their jollies by wasting other people's time with endless " dialogue " and

quoting half baked " studies " . They need to impress others with how much they

know but rarely discuss the results they have achieved by putting all that they

know into practice.

I would much rather read about an individual's experiences. Real life examples

are much more helpful than " studies " and endless discussion.

> >

> > I like to think that I am pretty open minded about exercise{excluding

obvious lies and gimmicks that the fitness world is subject to} but does it bug

you when people who have clearly never used a Bullworker have opinions about it.

> >

> > Now I have been training now for decades and have never made a secret of the

fact that my main exercise modality was and remains weights.However I can recall

the first time I ever used a Bullworker as a teenager and know as a matter of

fact that my muscles felt firmer after only a few days. Obviously this is the

proof of the pudding argument.

> >

> > Now in the course of the research that I do on exercise I have come across

some of the worse prejudgements about Bullworker on so called Bodybuilding

forums.Now I admit that those that I have dropped into{at least in my selection}

seem to be high on experts on everything and with no obvious proof about

anything or sensible argument that says anything more than- Bro that's not the

way to grow man....etc

> >

> > Now I have given my example do any readers of the forum have any examples of

their own that bug them?I would be very interested to hear them.These of course

might be quite personal.I would be very interested to read any contributions on

this topic.Ed

> >

>

February 20, 2012

Sounds familiar.

> > >

> > > I like to think that I am pretty open minded about exercise{excluding

obvious lies and gimmicks that the fitness world is subject to} but does it bug

you when people who have clearly never used a Bullworker have opinions about it.

> > >

> > > Now I have been training now for decades and have never made a secret of

the fact that my main exercise modality was and remains weights.However I can

recall the first time I ever used a Bullworker as a teenager and know as a

matter of fact that my muscles felt firmer after only a few days. Obviously this

is the proof of the pudding argument.

> > >

> > > Now in the course of the research that I do on exercise I have come across

some of the worse prejudgements about Bullworker on so called Bodybuilding

forums.Now I admit that those that I have dropped into{at least in my selection}

seem to be high on experts on everything and with no obvious proof about

anything or sensible argument that says anything more than- Bro that's not the

way to grow man....etc

> > >

> > > Now I have given my example do any readers of the forum have any examples

of their own that bug them?I would be very interested to hear them.These of

course might be quite personal.I would be very interested to read any

contributions on this topic.Ed

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> >

>

February 20, 2012

Well put, Marc. It's been my experience that the less people know about something, the more eager they are to put it down and ridicule it. It reminds me of the quote by Schopenhauer: "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."My motto is "Judge only by the results".Ronn To: bullworkerclub Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:15 PM Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................

Best just to ignore them.

Such people often show up on forums and contribute little that is really helpful. I often get the impression that they have too much time on their hands and get their jollies by wasting other people's time with endless "dialogue" and quoting half baked "studies". They need to impress others with how much they know but rarely discuss the results they have achieved by putting all that they know into practice.

I would much rather read about an individual's experiences. Real life examples are much more helpful than "studies" and endless discussion.

February 20, 2012

Well I can say I have been extensively carrying experimentation and

Documention on all things Bullworker using a farst collection of Bullworkers

collected over a extended period and I can tell you theirs not to much I

haven't tried with a Bullworker as far as exercise is concerned in the last 18

months or so but Iam far from a expert but i will tell you one thing with out

doubt if you pick one up use it apply effort stick to it you will reap the

rewards because Bullworker works you just got to pick it up and use it ! it's

thats simple ! Effort+Bullworker =results !

> > > >

> > > > I like to think that I am pretty open minded about exercise{excluding

obvious lies and gimmicks that the fitness world is subject to} but does it bug

you when people who have clearly never used a Bullworker have opinions about it.

> > > >

> > > > Now I have been training now for decades and have never made a secret of

the fact that my main exercise modality was and remains weights.However I can

recall the first time I ever used a Bullworker as a teenager and know as a

matter of fact that my muscles felt firmer after only a few days. Obviously this

is the proof of the pudding argument.

> > > >

> > > > Now in the course of the research that I do on exercise I have come

across some of the worse prejudgements about Bullworker on so called

Bodybuilding forums.Now I admit that those that I have dropped into{at least in

my selection} seem to be high on experts on everything and with no obvious proof

about anything or sensible argument that says anything more than- Bro that's not

the way to grow man....etc

> > > >

> > > > Now I have given my example do any readers of the forum have any

examples of their own that bug them?I would be very interested to hear

them.These of course might be quite personal.I would be very interested to read

any contributions on this topic.Ed

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 20, 2012

Well said Ronn the results speak for them self !

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> Well put, Marc. It's been my experience that the less people know about

something, the more eager they are to put it down and ridicule it. It reminds me

of the quote by Schopenhauer:

>

> " All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.

> Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being

> self-evident. "

> My motto is " Judge only by the results " .

>

> Ronn

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> >________________________________

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> >To: bullworkerclub

> >Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:15 PM

> >Subject: Re: Does it bug you

when............................

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> >Â

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> >Best just to ignore them.

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> >Such people often show up on forums and contribute little that is really

helpful. I often get the impression that they have too much time on their hands

and get their jollies by wasting other people's time with endless " dialogue " and

quoting half baked " studies " . They need to impress others with how much they

know but rarely discuss the results they have achieved by putting all that they

know into practice.

> >

> >I would much rather read about an individual's experiences. Real life

examples are much more helpful than " studies " and endless discussion.

> >

>

February 20, 2012

If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with proper

nutrition works, just check out ' before and after results with the

Sit At Home program after 90 days.

Rich

> >

> > Well put, Marc. It's been my experience that the less people know about

something, the more eager they are to put it down and ridicule it. It reminds me

of the quote by Schopenhauer:

> >

> > " All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed.

> > Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being

> > self-evident. "

> > My motto is " Judge only by the results " .

> >

> > Ronn

> >

> > >________________________________

> > > From: Marc <msflushingny@>

> > >To: bullworkerclub

> > >Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 5:15 PM

> > >Subject: Re: Does it bug you

when............................

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> > >Â

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> > >Best just to ignore them.

> > >

> > >Such people often show up on forums and contribute little that is really

helpful. I often get the impression that they have too much time on their hands

and get their jollies by wasting other people's time with endless " dialogue " and

quoting half baked " studies " . They need to impress others with how much they

know but rarely discuss the results they have achieved by putting all that they

know into practice.

> > >

> > >I would much rather read about an individual's experiences. Real life

examples are much more helpful than " studies " and endless discussion.

> > >

> >

>

February 21, 2012

> > >

> > > I like to think that I am pretty open minded about exercise{excluding

obvious lies and gimmicks that the fitness world is subject to} but does it bug

you when people who have clearly never used a Bullworker have opinions about it.

> > >

> > > Now I have been training now for decades and have never made a secret of

the fact that my main exercise modality was and remains weights.However I can

recall the first time I ever used a Bullworker as a teenager and know as a

matter of fact that my muscles felt firmer after only a few days. Obviously this

is the proof of the pudding argument.

> > >

> > > Now in the course of the research that I do on exercise I have come across

some of the worse prejudgements about Bullworker on so called Bodybuilding

forums.Now I admit that those that I have dropped into{at least in my selection}

seem to be high on experts on everything and with no obvious proof about

anything or sensible argument that says anything more than- Bro that's not the

way to grow man....etc

> > >

> > > Now I have given my example do any readers of the forum have any examples

of their own that bug them?I would be very interested to hear them.These of

course might be quite personal.I would be very interested to read any

contributions on this topic.Ed

> > >

> >

>

Thanks Shen,I thought that your reply was both funny and true.I really smiled at

your saying-the less they know about something the more infinitely qualified

they are to offer an expert opinion on it.I'm still smiling.ED

February 21, 2012

That's not real, is it? 90 days with "just" a Bullworker? I saw a special on how they do all those "Before and Afters". Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................To: bullworkerclub Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

Rich

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February 21, 2012

Mr. Goodwin, There is one sure way to find out...The program is on the Chart.All you have to do is devote 90 days to discipline.Record your progress.I would imagine the Forum would be very interested in your results. Respectfully, Bullworker To: bullworkerclub Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 9:17 AM Subject: Re: Re: Does it bug you when............................

That's not real, is it? 90 days with "just" a Bullworker? I saw a special on how they do all those "Before and Afters". Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................To: bullworkerclub Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

Rich

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February 21, 2012

Easy Mr. !!!

Respectfully,

Mr. Goodwin

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> >

> >Subject: Re: Does it bug you

when............................

> >To: bullworkerclub

> >Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> >

> >Â

> >If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with proper

nutrition works, just check out ' before and after results with the

Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> >

> >Rich

> >

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>

February 21, 2012

Just trying to create another Sit-at-Home convert...So much easier than saying "did to, did not." Respectfully, Bullworker To: bullworkerclub Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 11:26 AM Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................

Easy Mr. !!!

Respectfully,

Mr. Goodwin

>

> >

> >Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................

> >To: bullworkerclub

> >Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> >

> >Ã‚

> >If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> >

> >Rich

> >

> >-

>

February 21, 2012

don't hold back bob pick that bully up and get going mate I had a huge belly

before I started and I do walk as well But know I am not skinny but check the

photos out in the photo section my Body shape has had a turn for the better

half a hour a day for 90 days at around 2500 reps a day you will feel the

difference any way their only one way to prove it have a go!

>

> Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................

> To: bullworkerclub

> Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

>

> If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with proper

nutrition works, just check out ' before and after results with the

Sit At Home program after 90 days.

>

> Rich

>

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>

February 21, 2012

Does this really work? Does that work? I have seen those questions asked so many times on forums. Such and such has put together a new calisthenics program. Does it work? Well, pushups and chinups? Do they work? I dunno. Does anyone ever look at a dumbbell and ask if it works? Of course not. Everyone already knows (most everyone, anyway) that when you challenge your muscles, they will grow in size and strength. So why should anyone ask that about a Bullworker? Once someone can see how it works, why should they ask if it works? Talk about muscle overload. Here's a device that, the harder you push or pull on it, the greater the resistance becomes until you reach a point to where you can no longer budge it using all of your strength. That sounds to me like the last word in overload. Giving a Bullworker a good solid ten reps and then holding a hard live iso for ten seconds has gotta do something!

> > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@> > Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................> > To: bullworkerclub > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rich> > > > > > > > -> >>

February 21, 2012

I have an Original Bullworker with the green handles. I have read a few books on

Isometrics. I use my Bullworker more than occassionally but not as an exclusive

workout. I mix up a lot of different things always trying to keep it

interesting. I use my Bullworker as originally designed. A single rep and hold

for 10-15 seconds. I pay close attention to proper breathing. I feel a

difference when using the Bullworker and not using it. I don't know anyone who

uses one nevermind using one exclusively. I also don't know anyone not mixing

cardio into their weekly workout as well as trying to get a grip on diet and

nutrition.

I was half-hearted in my " inquiry " but I seem to have hit a nerve in doing so

and would like to apologize as I didn't mean to offend. Those before and after

pics on are impressive but me thinks there is more to just an " exclusive "

Bullworker workout for those results. " I " will most likely never know the

results of an exclusive Bullworker work-out. Even if I could afford to upgrade

to both of the newest models and incorporate all the newly developed exercises

into a weekly workout, I can't imagine myself being exclusive to the Bullworker

for a full 90 days to see the impact of these units alone.

I enjoy the reading here (and might enjoy it more without some of the run-on

sentences. Punctuation might help

> > >

> > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> when............................

> > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > >

> > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > >

> > > Rich

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> >

>

February 21, 2012

No Iso-Bow for you!!

> > > >

> > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> > when............................

> > > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> > proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> > results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > > >

> > > > Rich

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 21, 2012

OUCH!!! Sure know how to hurt a guy!

> > > > >

> > > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> > > when............................

> > > > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > > > >

> > > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> > > proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> > > results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > > > >

> > > > > Rich

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > >

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> > >

> >

>

February 21, 2012

Gentlemen, On the Sit-at-Home fitness chart is the most basic nutrition plan ever... or so I think.One can hit any weight loss goal by controlling their calorie intake.Very few six-packs are visible until the 10% body fat range is reached.That being said, exercise determines how one looks when they finish dieting. Currently, I am on a different program than I have ever tried before; with the Iso-Bow.I am stronger than I have been in years and my compression on the Steel-Bow is greater than it has ever been.I also weigh more than I

have in the last 4 years and do not have a six-pack.It is a journey I am testing to see the muscular results with everyday eating habits.Come March 1st, I will start a weight reduction program to observe the muscle retention with the Iso-Bow. These are not scientific tests... but they are real and those that are interested in the results, I am always willing to share. Common sense routines far outweigh the brain drain of the "ultimate" routine. Maybe not in the final results, but the price paid for the 'ultimate' is not a road I wish to travel anymore. I am more than happy with the common sense routine and I find it much more enjoyable.My opinion. Respectfully,

Bullworker To: bullworkerclub Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 5:16 PM Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................

I have an Original Bullworker with the green handles. I have read a few books on Isometrics. I use my Bullworker more than occassionally but not as an exclusive workout. I mix up a lot of different things always trying to keep it interesting. I use my Bullworker as originally designed. A single rep and hold for 10-15 seconds. I pay close attention to proper breathing. I feel a difference when using the Bullworker and not using it. I don't know anyone who uses one nevermind using one exclusively. I also don't know anyone not mixing cardio into their weekly workout as well as trying to get a grip on diet and nutrition.

I was half-hearted in my "inquiry" but I seem to have hit a nerve in doing so and would like to apologize as I didn't mean to offend. Those before and after pics on are impressive but me thinks there is more to just an "exclusive" Bullworker workout for those results. "I" will most likely never know the results of an exclusive Bullworker work-out. Even if I could afford to upgrade to both of the newest models and incorporate all the newly developed exercises into a weekly workout, I can't imagine myself being exclusive to the Bullworker for a full 90 days to see the impact of these units alone.

I enjoy the reading here (and might enjoy it more without some of the run-on sentences. Punctuation might help

> > >

> > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> when............................

> > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > >

> > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > >

> > > Rich

> > >

> > > -

> > >

> >

>

February 21, 2012

I workout with weights, bands, and bodyweight, but I love topping off each of my

exercises with a few reps followed by a live iso on my bullies. It really puts

the finishing touch on them. For a few exercises I use the bullies exclusively

for which they are best suited and cannot be duplicated or done as effectively

by any other piece of equipment.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > > > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> > > > when............................

> > > > > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > > > > >

> > > > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> > > > proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> > > > results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rich

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February 21, 2012

These are not scientific tests...?? Common sense routines?? Personal

experience??

Where's that at???

We want statistics! Charts! Percentages!

> > > >

> > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> > when............................

> > > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> > proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> > results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > > >

> > > > Rich

> > > >

> > > > -

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

February 21, 2012

A great post here. Common sense, balanced approach in all things. (And that is

NOT an " everything in moderation " statement) Enjoyment, I find, is key and

probably not enjoying is the reason for so many starts and stops over the years.

I think I'll go push those green handles around a bit right now. Chow!

> > > >

> > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> > when............................

> > > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> > proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> > results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > > >

> > > > Rich

> > > >

> > > > -

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> >

>

February 21, 2012

ibsones I agree with you that better punctuation would help,let me contribute by spelling chow correctly...ciao.Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................To: bullworkerclub Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 6:27 PM

A great post here. Common sense, balanced approach in all things. (And that is NOT an "everything in moderation" statement) Enjoyment, I find, is key and probably not enjoying is the reason for so many starts and stops over the years. I think I'll go push those green handles around a bit right now. Chow!

> > > >

> > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> > when............................

> > > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> > proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> > results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > > >

> > > > Rich

> > > >

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February 21, 2012

ibsones I agree with you that better punctuation would help,let me contribute by spelling chow correctly...ciao.Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................To: bullworkerclub Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 6:27 PM

A great post here. Common sense, balanced approach in all things. (And that is NOT an "everything in moderation" statement) Enjoyment, I find, is key and probably not enjoying is the reason for so many starts and stops over the years. I think I'll go push those green handles around a bit right now. Chow!

> > > >

> > > > From: bwbeliever RMJr@

> > > > Subject: Re: Does it bug you

> > when............................

> > > > To: bullworkerclub

> > > > Date: Monday, February 20, 2012, 9:31 PM

> > > >

> > > > If anyone has any doubt that the Bullworker/Steel Bow, along with

> > proper nutrition works, just check out ' before and after

> > results with the Sit At Home program after 90 days.

> > > >

> > > > Rich

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>

February 21, 2012

Thank you for correcting ibsones spelling. Let me help you with your punctuation

by putting a space between " help, " and " let " .

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February 21, 2012

Yes, by all means, thank you Shen! LOL!Subject: Re: Does it bug you when............................To: bullworkerclub Date: Tuesday, February 21, 2012, 7:54 PM

Thank you for correcting ibsones spelling. Let me help you with your punctuation by putting a space between "help," and "let".

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