Re: New here, looking for Crestor info

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> Hi,

> Since my husband has just been introduced to a statin because of high

> cholesterol (239), it prompted me to do some research on it. He has

> been prescribed 5 mg of Crestor daily. Needless to say when I did a

> search on Crestor, I became very upset. He has also recently been

> diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. I'm guessing he has been prescribed

> this medication because the dr. wants to get his HDL back up,

> currently at 34.

Taking a statin to improve HDL is not very effective. Niacin(B3) is one of

the most effective for raising HDL and improving LDL quality, VLDL, and IDL.

Red Wine, 5-10 oz a day max, can dramatically improve HDL and the alcohol

improves blood thinness lowering a chance of blood clots and consequently

stroke and heart attack.

I recommend he take a VAP test which will give feedback on HDL and LDL

subtypes, actually measure the amounts, and give feedback on VLDL, IDL, and

partial cholesterol particles. If he has small particle LDL, a statin will

not improve it, niacin would be the choice.

> Is anyone here currently taking this drug? Are you having any of the

> side effects I'm worried about? His endocrinologist prescribed this

> for him 4 days ago and I'm thinking of having him change the

> prescription. He is an otherwise healthy 53 year old male. I'm very

> worried about the side effects of this drug! Then I ask myself, if

> it's so dangerous, why isn't the FDA pulling it? Is it less dangerous

> just taking 5 mg a day?

It is a very profitable drug, I doubt the FDA will pull it.

> A neighbor recommended taking Red Yeast Rice pills....anyone here

> take those?

Red Rice Yeast is a statin and does the same thing. Getting a standardized

product that is consistant from dose to dose should be your goal if you go

that route.

> All this statin stuff is frightening, though I must say I know quite

> a few people who have been taking Zocor for years and haven't had any

> problems.

Taking 15 to 25 grams of mixed fibers can lower LDL substantially AND increase

HDL.

There are other choices for lowering LDL, improving LDL and HDL quality,

increasing HDL, etc.

--

Steve - dudescholar1@...

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--Joje Reyes

[Guest guest]

Red Rice Yeast is the same as taking a statin, same side-effects. I

just got a call from my doctor's office with the results of my lipid

profile taken on Tuesday. For the first time in 6 years of trying,

I've been able to get my Total Cholesterol under 200 without a statin!!

Believe me I have tried individual things and many, many combinations.

My latest disappointment was the policosanol. It just didn't work for

me, at least not by itself! My normal diet Cholesterol is usually

about 240+- and I think I finally found the key.

Fiber - lots of it!!!! My last panel taken the first of August was 228

with an LDL of 139. This time my total was 196 with LDL at 108 (the

lowest ever)!!! I still took the same supplements that I took to get

it to 228 which were: policosanol, cinnamon, cayenne pepper, 500mg of

Slo-Niacin, and 1gram of Inositol Hexiniacinate. But this time in

addition, I added one apple a day, 6 grams of pysllium powder, 4 grams

of Inulin (2 FiberChoice Tablets, which were very tasty and new on the

market), and increased my exercise to 40 minute walks a day.

I ate at least 30 grams of Fiber a day, everyday! Ate very little

sugar, very little red meat and NO trans fats. I eat Oat Bran with

ground flax seeds for breakfast with Heart-Wise Orange Juice, a

low-carb, high fiber tortilla with either fat-free cheese or peanut

butter and jelly for lunch followed by an apple. For dinner I have a

salad, some meat which is usually chicken but can be beef or pork and a

cooked veggie or two. Usually before lunch I drink 8 oz of water with

a little juice in it for taste in which I dissolve the pysllium. I eat

the Fiber Choice Tablets after supper.

I am so HAPPY with my results I could shout from the roof tops.....can't

wait to see the doctor's face on Monday when I go....he thinks I'm still

on the Pravachol!!!!!!

Anyway....here's the complete results: TC 196 LDL 108 HDL 79

Triglycerides 47

Last time they were TC 228 LDL 139 HDL 68 Tri 102 and when I was taking

the Pravachol they were TC 193 LDL 98 HDL 68 Tri 129. When he put me

on the Pravachol they were TC 247 LDL 154 HDL 72 Tri 106.

Thanks for listening and hope it helps someone.....like I said I've

spent 6+ years trying to get it down naturally.

Noreen

New here, looking for Crestor info

Hi,

Since my husband has just been introduced to a statin because of high

cholesterol (239), it prompted me to do some research on it. He has

been prescribed 5 mg of Crestor daily. Needless to say when I did a

search on Crestor, I became very upset. He has also recently been

diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. I'm guessing he has been prescribed

this medication because the dr. wants to get his HDL back up,

currently at 34.

Is anyone here currently taking this drug? Are you having any of the

side effects I'm worried about? His endocrinologist prescribed this

for him 4 days ago and I'm thinking of having him change the

prescription. He is an otherwise healthy 53 year old male. I'm very

worried about the side effects of this drug! Then I ask myself, if

it's so dangerous, why isn't the FDA pulling it? Is it less dangerous

just taking 5 mg a day?

A neighbor recommended taking Red Yeast Rice pills....anyone here

take those?

All this statin stuff is frightening, though I must say I know quite

a few people who have been taking Zocor for years and haven't had any

problems.

[Guest guest]

Valarie wrote: Re Husband

- high cholesterol (239)

- 5 mg of Crestor daily

- recently diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes

- HDL 34

- otherwise healthy 53 year old male

Is anyone here currently taking this drug?

Neighbor recommended taking Red Yeast Rice pills...

Anyone here take those?

All this statin stuff is frightening...

Hi ,

What are all of your husband's numbers?

LDL

HDL

Triglycerides

Has his doctor checked these risk factors?

- homocysteine

- hs-CRP

- Lp(a)

Crestor is the strongest statin on the market.

And yes, all statins are frightening.

Red Yeast Rice is a statin and can produce all the same

side effects as prescription statins. My husband took

RYR and had the same side effects as he did with Lipitor;

muscle/joint - pain/stiffness, cognitive decline, moody,

depressed, eye disorder (amaurosis fugax) , just to name

a few.

Type 2 diabetes can usually be controlled with proper diet

and exercise. What is your husband's glucose level?

Fran

[Guest guest]

>

> >

> A neighbor recommended taking Red Yeast Rice pills....anyone here

> take those?

> Red yeast rice IS A STATIN--IT IS THE SAME INGREDIENT AS MEVACOR--

THE FIRST STATIN ON THE MARKET. IF YOU TAKE RED YEAST RICE,YOU ARE

TAKING A STATIN.

> All this statin stuff is frightening, though I must say I know quite

> a few people who have been taking Zocor for years and haven't had

any

> proBLEMS

>

[Guest guest]

I had no problem taking 10 mg Lipitor, when it was

boosted to 20mg I had problem. When I took Crestor a

year later, it was 10mg, they weren't selling a 5mg

pill then. My reaction to 10mg Crestor was horrendous.

Be very careful.

--- Valarie wrote:

> Hi,

> Since my husband has just been introduced to a

> statin because of high

> cholesterol (239), it prompted me to do some

> research on it. He has

> been prescribed 5 mg of Crestor daily. Needless to

> say when I did a

> search on Crestor, I became very upset.

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[Guest guest]

wow Noreen...great news! Especially that high number HDL..wow.

I wonder how much is attributed to the bran and how much to the fish oil? Anyway..great job!

~Jillie~

RE: New here, looking for Crestor info

Red Rice Yeast is the same as taking a statin, same side-effects. Ijust got a call from my doctor's office with the results of my lipidprofile taken on Tuesday. For the first time in 6 years of trying,I've been able to get my Total Cholesterol under 200 without a statin!!Believe me I have tried individual things and many, many combinations.My latest disappointment was the policosanol. It just didn't work forme, at least not by itself! My normal diet Cholesterol is usuallyabout 240+- and I think I finally found the key.Fiber - lots of it!!!! My last panel taken the first of August was 228with an LDL of 139. This time my total was 196 with LDL at 108 (thelowest ever)!!! I still took the same supplements that I took to getit to 228 which were: policosanol, cinnamon, cayenne pepper, 500mg ofSlo-Niacin, and 1gram of Inositol Hexiniacinate. But this time inaddition, I added one apple a day, 6 grams of pysllium powder, 4 gramsof Inulin (2 FiberChoice Tablets, which were very tasty and new on themarket), and increased my exercise to 40 minute walks a day.I ate at least 30 grams of Fiber a day, everyday! Ate very littlesugar, very little red meat and NO trans fats. I eat Oat Bran withground flax seeds for breakfast with Heart-Wise Orange Juice, alow-carb, high fiber tortilla with either fat-free cheese or peanutbutter and jelly for lunch followed by an apple. For dinner I have asalad, some meat which is usually chicken but can be beef or pork and acooked veggie or two. Usually before lunch I drink 8 oz of water witha little juice in it for taste in which I dissolve the pysllium. I eatthe Fiber Choice Tablets after supper.I am so HAPPY with my results I could shout from the roof tops.....can'twait to see the doctor's face on Monday when I go....he thinks I'm stillon the Pravachol!!!!!!Anyway....here's the complete results: TC 196 LDL 108 HDL 79Triglycerides 47Last time they were TC 228 LDL 139 HDL 68 Tri 102 and when I was takingthe Pravachol they were TC 193 LDL 98 HDL 68 Tri 129. When he put meon the Pravachol they were TC 247 LDL 154 HDL 72 Tri 106.Thanks for listening and hope it helps someone.....like I said I'vespent 6+ years trying to get it down naturally.Noreen-----Original Message-----From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of ValarieSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:09 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: New here, looking for Crestor infoHi,Since my husband has just been introduced to a statin because of high cholesterol (239), it prompted me to do some research on it. He has been prescribed 5 mg of Crestor daily. Needless to say when I did a search on Crestor, I became very upset. He has also recently been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. I'm guessing he has been prescribed this medication because the dr. wants to get his HDL back up, currently at 34. Is anyone here currently taking this drug? Are you having any of the side effects I'm worried about? His endocrinologist prescribed this for him 4 days ago and I'm thinking of having him change the prescription. He is an otherwise healthy 53 year old male. I'm very worried about the side effects of this drug! Then I ask myself, if it's so dangerous, why isn't the FDA pulling it? Is it less dangerous just taking 5 mg a day? A neighbor recommended taking Red Yeast Rice pills....anyone here take those? All this statin stuff is frightening, though I must say I know quite a few people who have been taking Zocor for years and haven't had any problems.

[Guest guest]

Yes, Jillie.....I'm still really thrilled with the results. Having blood drawn 3-4 times a year and trying one thing and then another was getting quite depressing since the results weren't changing much and then this!!! The HDL is probably high due to the cinnamon, fish oil and exercise. At least thats my guess. The lower LDL was definitely the fiber and the fact I went back to real orange juice, but 90%mostly the fiber. Being on an almost no-sugar diet lowered the triglycerides and usually when they lower, the HDL goes up. They are usually inverse of each other. I just can't wait to see my dr's face.,.....I'm so glad I quit the Pravachol and tried this one last thing!!!!! I quit it after only 3 weeks because I could not sleep.

Noreen

-----Original Message-----From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of lahnie-jillSent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 11:51 AMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: Re: New here, looking for Crestor info

wow Noreen...great news! Especially that high number HDL..wow.

I wonder how much is attributed to the bran and how much to the fish oil? Anyway..great job!

~Jillie~

RE: New here, looking for Crestor info

Red Rice Yeast is the same as taking a statin, same side-effects. Ijust got a call from my doctor's office with the results of my lipidprofile taken on Tuesday. For the first time in 6 years of trying,I've been able to get my Total Cholesterol under 200 without a statin!!Believe me I have tried individual things and many, many combinations.My latest disappointment was the policosanol. It just didn't work forme, at least not by itself! My normal diet Cholesterol is usuallyabout 240+- and I think I finally found the key.Fiber - lots of it!!!! My last panel taken the first of August was 228with an LDL of 139. This time my total was 196 with LDL at 108 (thelowest ever)!!! I still took the same supplements that I took to getit to 228 which were: policosanol, cinnamon, cayenne pepper, 500mg ofSlo-Niacin, and 1gram of Inositol Hexiniacinate. But this time inaddition, I added one apple a day, 6 grams of pysllium powder, 4 gramsof Inulin (2 FiberChoice Tablets, which were very tasty and new on themarket), and increased my exercise to 40 minute walks a day.I ate at least 30 grams of Fiber a day, everyday! Ate very littlesugar, very little red meat and NO trans fats. I eat Oat Bran withground flax seeds for breakfast with Heart-Wise Orange Juice, alow-carb, high fiber tortilla with either fat-free cheese or peanutbutter and jelly for lunch followed by an apple. For dinner I have asalad, some meat which is usually chicken but can be beef or pork and acooked veggie or two. Usually before lunch I drink 8 oz of water witha little juice in it for taste in which I dissolve the pysllium. I eatthe Fiber Choice Tablets after supper.I am so HAPPY with my results I could shout from the roof tops.....can'twait to see the doctor's face on Monday when I go....he thinks I'm stillon the Pravachol!!!!!!Anyway....here's the complete results: TC 196 LDL 108 HDL 79Triglycerides 47Last time they were TC 228 LDL 139 HDL 68 Tri 102 and when I was takingthe Pravachol they were TC 193 LDL 98 HDL 68 Tri 129. When he put meon the Pravachol they were TC 247 LDL 154 HDL 72 Tri 106.Thanks for listening and hope it helps someone.....like I said I'vespent 6+ years trying to get it down naturally.Noreen-----Original Message-----From: TakingLipitorAndHateIt [mailto:TakingLipitorAndHateIt ] On Behalf Of ValarieSent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 7:09 PMTo: TakingLipitorAndHateIt Subject: New here, looking for Crestor infoHi,Since my husband has just been introduced to a statin because of high cholesterol (239), it prompted me to do some research on it. He has been prescribed 5 mg of Crestor daily. Needless to say when I did a search on Crestor, I became very upset. He has also recently been diagnosed with Type 2 Diabetes. I'm guessing he has been prescribed this medication because the dr. wants to get his HDL back up, currently at 34. Is anyone here currently taking this drug? Are you having any of the side effects I'm worried about? His endocrinologist prescribed this for him 4 days ago and I'm thinking of having him change the prescription. He is an otherwise healthy 53 year old male. I'm very worried about the side effects of this drug! Then I ask myself, if it's so dangerous, why isn't the FDA pulling it? Is it less dangerous just taking 5 mg a day? A neighbor recommended taking Red Yeast Rice pills....anyone here take those? All this statin stuff is frightening, though I must say I know quite a few people who have been taking Zocor for years and haven't had any problems.

[Guest guest]

Hi Noreen,

Excellent results... Just one comment:

Has your doctor checked your homocysteine?

Fran

[Guest guest]

Yes, in April of this year it was 9.1. I know take a B-100 in the

morning and one in the evening along with my multi in the hopes it will

come down some before he checks it again next year. They are two

different brands and one also contains betaine.

Noreen

Re: New here, looking for Crestor info

Hi Noreen,

Excellent results... Just one comment:

Has your doctor checked your homocysteine?

Fran

[Guest guest]

I am so glad you finally got something that works for you. I know

there are differences in the types of fiber we get. Do you know if

taking the benifiber would be the same as the fiber tablets? I can

put that in his coffee.

I can't get my husband to take one more pill, but will try to get

more fiber into him. I also have to watch for diarrhea with him.

Did you have any problems when you increased your fiber?

I also considered trying to add the policosanol. We get it in the

margarines we use, but I think you can get pill form too.

I put regular cinnamon in our coffee in the morning. Do you think

this works just like the pill form?

He can't take the niacin.

Here's what we do right now.

Multi vitamin

Fish oil/ 2000 mg per day

b complex W/C

cinnamon

I add flax and rice bran whenever I can.

I take psyllium because the other fibers do not seem to work for me.

I have ibs and am hypothyroid.

We do mostly fish and chicken, and I am trying to cut out as much

prepared food as possible. All whole grains.

Do you eat the skins on the apples? I have found in the last few

years that the skins are so tough and bitter, I can barely stand to

eat them.

Susie

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" Noreen " <katkarma@c...> wrote:

>

>\ I've been able to get my Total Cholesterol under 200 without a

statin!!

> My latest disappointment was the policosanol. It just didn't work

for

> me, at least not by itself!

>

> Fiber - lots of it!!!!

policosanol, cinnamon, cayenne pepper, 500mg of

> Slo-Niacin, and 1gram of Inositol Hexiniacinate. But this time in

> addition, I added one apple a day, 6 grams of pysllium powder, 4

grams

> of Inulin (2 FiberChoice Tablets, which were very tasty and new on

the

> market),

>