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Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I

would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding

and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger,

Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We

plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible,

girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you

have or suggestions for improvements.

we are trying to decide what basic

book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book

of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being

for more complex issues/reference.

i looked through the latest

edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of

the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one.

i am a leader, but i will

admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i

am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good

" all purpose " book without a ton of philosophy - and also how

up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is.

my business partners are

going to look at jack newman's " the latch " and also

breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these?

other books you prefer?

thanks!!

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wow!!! who could imagine a better team!

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Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision.

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I would like to have something in there about being careful to keep the mother-baby relationship as a top priority. I am concerned about some mothers who are so driven to make breastfeeding work that they lose their joy and closeness with their baby in the process. They fight with the baby to get him to latch, or let others bottle-feed so they can pump every 2 hours around the clock. I don't say this to criticize or add another layer of guilt onto overwhelmed mothers, but to suggest that it's ok to just be with their baby and do whatever level of breastfeeding is reasonable given the cards they have been dealt. Some mothers might feel that there is a medical need to avoid even a drop of formula, and I respect that; but babies need their mother's love even more than they need to have only 100% mother's milk (IMNSHO.I am also very concerned about the increasing overuse of pumps. I am concerned that pumps are becoming the new formula. Like formula, pumps are a tool that can help a mother and baby, or come between them. Pumps can be reassuring to mothers, or make her worry when she wouldn't have otherwise worried about her supply.It might also be helpful to have some information to empower mothers to ask questions of a breastfeeding helper, such as "describe your training," or "how do you approach a low supply situation"? Mothers need some way to sift through all the breastfeeding advice they get from various professionals who often know squat about breastfeeding yet spout opinions as if they were facts.I am so glad you are doing this, ! This is going to be the best edition yet!LynnetteSpeaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements.we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!!

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Breastfeeding Made Simple is great.wow!!! who could imagine a better team! [sPAM]Re: favorite basic breastfeeding book for parentsSpeaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. .

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That is exciting; you will make a great team!

How about some really good illustrations of latch and different positions?

Marine

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basic breastfeeding book for parents

Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla),

but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding

and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger,

Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to

completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend

style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for

improvements.

we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our

boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making

more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex

issues/reference.

i

looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was

disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right

one.

i am a

leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art,

and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a

good " all purpose " book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up

to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is.

my

business partners are going to look at jack newman's " the latch " and

also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these?

other

books you prefer? thanks!!

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What a fantastic group to author WAB--congrats! I agree with Lynette and hope that the Womanly Art maintains the philosophy of mother/baby togetherness. Despite society's push to separate mothers and babies and the comments I've heard that the WAB is too pushy about togetherness and their "doctrine" I feel so strongly that someone has to speak for babies' needs and acknowledge that time doesn't change these no matter what society is doing at the time.

When my Mothering article on separation received a flood of angry letters I'll never forget the editor I worked with telling me not to worry and that it is guilt that makes people angry and sad about what they didn't do or have. I guess what I'm trying to say is I so hope that because of criticism or the need to be liked by all that the WAB waters down some of the most important tenets of its philosophy, especially re mother/baby togetherness. It is the strength and empowerment of this very philosophy that enraptured me as a LLL member and later a leader. And of course there is nothing personal about you prospective authors, just my own strong feelings being stirred..

Best of luck and would love to help in any way I can.

Barbara Latterner

I would like to have something in there about being careful to keep the mother-baby relationship as a top priority. I am concerned about some mothers who are so driven to make breastfeeding work that they lose their joy and closeness with their baby in the process. They fight with the baby to get him to latch, or let others bottle-feed so they can pump every 2 hours around the clock. I don't say this to criticize or add another layer of guilt onto overwhelmed mothers, but to suggest that it's ok to just be with their baby and do whatever level of breastfeeding is reasonable given the cards they have been dealt. Some mothers might feel that there is a medical need to avoid even a drop of formula, and I respect that; but babies need their mother's love even more than they need to have only 100% mother's milk (IMNSHO.

I am also very concerned about the increasing overuse of pumps. I am concerned that pumps are becoming the new formula. Like formula, pumps are a tool that can help a mother and baby, or come between them. Pumps can be reassuring to mothers, or make her worry when she wouldn't have otherwise worried about her supply.

It might also be helpful to have some information to empower mothers to ask questions of a breastfeeding helper, such as "describe your training," or "how do you approach a low supply situation"? Mothers need some way to sift through all the breastfeeding advice they get from various professionals who often know squat about breastfeeding yet spout opinions as if they were facts.

I am so glad you are doing this, ! This is going to be the best edition yet!

Lynnette

Speaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements.

we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!!

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Hi Lyla,

Kathleen Huggin's and I will have "25 Things Every Nursing Mother should Know" coming out in March:

http://harvardcommonpress.com/content/books/details/25-things-every-nursing-mother-needs-to-know/ It is a small book of essay-type chapters, and 3rd in a series by the Series brothers and Martha Sears. While not an instruction type book, we hope it will make a nice shower gift or new mother guide.

What was it about "The Nursing Mother's Companion" you were disappointed in? Always thinking of ways to improve.....

JE

Jan Ellen Brown IBCLC RLC

Charlotte Pediatric Clinic

http://www.charlottepediatricclinic.org/body.cfm?id=29

favorite basic breastfeeding book for parents

we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference.

i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one.

i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is.

my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these?

other books you prefer? thanks!!

Lyla

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,How wonderful! I echo what Barbara says about keeping mother and baby together - somehow I think this is a given considering the authors. My big beef these days is how those of us who support breastfeeding get a bad rap from the moms who are undermined by a lack of support systems, who know how important breastfeeding is and for whom it does not work out.I also hope in the new WAB that there will be evidence presented, i.e. sleeping arrangements.I attended a Meeting in the Bronx on "safe" infant sleep and the powers that be are so against co-sleeping and co-bedding despite evidence. I spoke up at every opportunity and people on the sidelines thanked me - still there was a heavy handed "babies are in danger in bed with parents" attitude and there was no data on the feeding methods of these babies.Do you see why I do not post very often - run-on sentences, shifting ideas - I do not have an e-mail editor!~Leigh AnneSpeaking of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements.we are trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's book - those all being for more complex issues/reference. i looked through the latest edition of nursing mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i don't think it's the right one. i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on that, specifically whether it would be a good "all purpose" book without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and breastfeeding advice is. my business partners are going to look at jack newman's "the latch" and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on these? other books you prefer? thanks!! Leigh Anne O'Connor, IBCLCleighanne625@...www.leighanneoconnor.com

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Well stated Barbara,

I am looking forward to this next revision

it sounds like it’s in great hands.

I feel the same way about the mother/baby connectedness

that is critical not only to the success of the breastfeeding dyad but also to

the development of each as individuals. Unfortunately many people think breastfeeding

is JUST a feeding choice and that JUST the fluid and/or container is different,

providing they aren’t pumping and feeding. The WAB conveys this philosophy

and has stood up to the critics for 50 years, it would actually be nice to see

some evidence based material to support rather than water that down.

JMNSHO

Lou Moramarco, IBCLC RLC

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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2009

8:23 AM

To:

Subject: Re: favorite

basic breastfeeding book for parents

,

What a fantastic group to author

WAB--congrats! I agree with Lynette and hope that the Womanly Art

maintains the philosophy of mother/baby togetherness. Despite society's

push to separate mothers and babies and the comments I've heard that the WAB is

too pushy about togetherness and their " doctrine " I feel so strongly

that someone has to speak for babies' needs and acknowledge that time doesn't

change these no matter what society is doing at the time.

When my Mothering article on separation

received a flood of angry letters I'll never forget the editor I worked with

telling me not to worry and that it is guilt that makes people angry and sad

about what they didn't do or have. I guess what I'm trying to say is I so

hope that because of criticism or the need to be liked by all that the WAB

waters down some of the most important tenets of its philosophy, especially re

mother/baby togetherness. It is the strength and empowerment of this very

philosophy that enraptured me as a LLL member and later a leader. And of

course there is nothing personal about you prospective authors, just my own

strong feelings being stirred..

Best of luck and would love to help in

any way I can.

Barbara Latterner

In a message dated 1/9/2009 9:38:22 P.M.

Eastern Standard Time, lhafkenverizon (DOT) net writes:

I would like to have something in there

about being careful to keep the mother-baby relationship as a top priority.

I am concerned about some mothers who are so driven to make breastfeeding

work that they lose their joy and closeness with their baby in the process.

They fight with the baby to get him to latch, or let others bottle-feed

so they can pump every 2 hours around the clock. I don't say this to

criticize or add another layer of guilt onto overwhelmed mothers, but to

suggest that it's ok to just be with their baby and do whatever level of

breastfeeding is reasonable given the cards they have been dealt. Some

mothers might feel that there is a medical need to avoid even a drop of

formula, and I respect that; but babies need their mother's love even more than

they need to have only 100% mother's milk (IMNSHO.

I am also very concerned about the

increasing overuse of pumps. I am concerned that pumps are becoming the

new formula. Like formula, pumps are a tool that can help a mother and

baby, or come between them. Pumps can be reassuring to mothers, or make

her worry when she wouldn't have otherwise worried about her supply.

It might also be helpful to have some

information to empower mothers to ask questions of a breastfeeding helper, such

as " describe your training, " or " how do you approach a low

supply situation " ? Mothers need some way to sift through all the

breastfeeding advice they get from various professionals who often know squat

about breastfeeding yet spout opinions as if they were facts.

I am so glad you are doing this, !

This is going to be the best edition yet!

Lynnette

On Jan 9, 2009, at 8:49 PM, West,

IBCLC wrote:

Speaking

of this (and not to hijack your post, Lyla), but I would love to hear any

feedback about the Womanly Art of Breastfeeding and any suggestions for the

next revision, because Diane Wiessinger, Pitman, and I will be writing

the next revision. We plan to completely rewrite it, in a much more

basic, accessible, girlfriend-to-girlfriend style. We'd love to hear

any ideas you have or suggestions for improvements.

we are

trying to decide what basic book to carry in our boutique, along with the

ultimate breastfeeding book of answers, making more milk, cathy genna's

book - those all being for more complex issues/reference.

i looked through the latest edition of nursing

mother's companion and was disappointed in enough of the info/advice that i

don't think it's the right one.

i am a leader, but i will admit i have not read

the latest edition of the womanly art, and i am hoping for feedback on

that, specifically whether it would be a good " all purpose " book

without a ton of philosophy - and also how up to date the actual latch and

breastfeeding advice is.

my business partners are going to look at jack

newman's " the latch " and also breastfeeding made simple - feedback on

these?

other books you prefer? thanks!!

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