RE: OT: Infants & honey/botulism?

[Guest guest]

Here is a link with some description of the benefits of raw honey and

a warning about feeding raw or heated honey to infants.

http://www.drgreene.com/21_825.html

I'm not sure what Sally Fallon has to say about this - I'm still

waiting for a copy of NT at the library. But I have heard several

times that any type of honey is not good for infants.

Jill

[Guest guest]

Here is a link with some description of the benefits of raw honey and

a warning about feeding raw or heated honey to infants.

http://www.drgreene.com/21_825.html

I'm not sure what Sally Fallon has to say about this - I'm still

waiting for a copy of NT at the library. But I have heard several

times that any type of honey is not good for infants.

Jill

[Guest guest]

Jill, the link that you sent is from a site filled with fear propoganda! The doctor on the site actually recommends vaccines! How could you trust any information from that site?!

Normal honey is bad for everyone... the standard process used to bottle and clean it requires heating it. As with milk and eggs, we know that this KILLS our food and makes it at the very least not health giving, and at most toxic to us. Find a local source of honey, talk to your honey farmer, and get honey that has NOT been heated! At 93 degrees it begins to change and by 100 degrees it becomes a radical sugar. The honey you buy at the supermarket is just as good for you as white sugar!

The FDA has not gotten their noses into the honey industry yet, so there are no set standards for the labeling... at the moment anyone can throw the word raw on the label, no matter what they have done to it, just to improve sales.

The scares about botulism in honey is in heated (pasturized) honey, not in raw (unheated) honey... as your honey farmer how hot they heat the honey during the bottling process to find out for sure that it is raw... it does not need to be heated at all. And unheated honey IS safe for infants...just as safe as raw milk and raw eggs.

> >Reply-To: RawDairy >To: RawDairy >Subject: Re: OT: Infants & honey/botulism? >Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:34:20 -0000 > > >Here is a link with some description of the benefits of raw honey and >a warning about feeding raw or heated honey to infants. > >http://www.drgreene.com/21_825.html > >I'm not sure what Sally Fallon has to say about this - I'm still >waiting for a copy of NT at the library. But I have heard several >times that any type of honey is not good for infants. > >Jill > > > Rock, jazz, country, soul more. Find the music you love on MSN Music!

[Guest guest]

Hi ;

I agree that raw honey is by far the best choice for adults. But I

don't believe that any honey should be fed to infants. I believe

that raw milk and eggs are naturally safe when they come from quality

sources and therefore are safe for children, but that botulism can be

present even in quality raw honey. I wonder why an infant would need

raw honey in the first place? It doesn't seem natural to me.

And I don't disregard information if I don't agree with every word a

person says. I pick and choose the things I think make the most

sense to me. I have never found an individual whose views exactly

matched mine.

Anyway, this is a bit off-topic so I'll let it go at that.

Jill

[Guest guest]

Jill,

In general, I agree with you. But after looking at several topics on that site, I made my decision that the site wasn't worth it. Curiosity...do you have any kids? and, how long have you been studying health and nutrition?

I also agree that young infants don't need any sweetners, but when you have multiple children, the younger want what the older ones have, and then the issue is valid. I would rather that the food that I ate was considered safe for my baby! In addition to the fact that I breast feed, and therefore he does eat everything that I eat, I don't want to consume anything toxic just because it shouldn't affect me too much because i'm larger!

That's the premise of a lot of regulations regarding food and chemical safety. But what is legally safe, and even award winning, for the tap water, burns(chemically) the skin off my body and makes me pass out. I found out that was not supposed to happen when I was 27, and got my first chlorine filter.

> >Reply-To: RawDairy >To: RawDairy >Subject: Re: OT: Infants & honey/botulism? >Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 18:55:39 -0000 > > >Hi ; > >I agree that raw honey is by far the best choice for adults. But I >don't believe that any honey should be fed to infants. I believe >that raw milk and eggs are naturally safe when they come from quality >sources and therefore are safe for children, but that botulism can be >present even in quality raw honey. I wonder why an infant would need >raw honey in the first place? It doesn't seem natural to me. > >And I don't disregard information if I don't agree with every word a >person says. I pick and choose the things I think make the most >sense to me. I have never found an individual whose views exactly >matched mine. > >Anyway, this is a bit off-topic so I'll let it go at that. > >Jill > > > Rock, jazz, country, soul more. Find the music you love on MSN Music!