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August 25, 2004

I leave the room for a while and come back to all this............STUFF.

Boy, our fearless leader Ed would be diggin this.....I feel like i am on the O'reily show....so confrontational:-).

Well anyway......so much mail to read and not enough time...I did catch a couple tho....and will say, loved your resume Matt:-)

You sound like you have friends in the right places, and have worked around medical settings.......that is nice....

I always wanted to be a nurse myself.....but then.......after a brief while I knew I would have to be the doctor.....not the nurse......and while my family had flown the coup.....and I was ill.....had no resources to school myself.......so, that about sums up my early life. Anyway.......

I find this all so stimulating.......yes I do:-)

I like a good debate...and even like to hear others' opinions.....and I am not one sided.......and am willing to learn.

However......it is true..I will speak for Ed and say he made this group to be a support arena for people who have been harmed by statins, OR, have noticed themselves or loved ones reacting in a bad way.......

I think I posted the very first post here....and while my brain is foggy.....and can't remember exactly what I wrote.....I will sum it up by saying my husband who is 56, turned into an 89 year old person who looked like he had parkinsons, dementia, and wierd neurological things going on...Plus all his muscles were eaten away....it was from the statins, and being the good sport he was, he tried about 4...

He also tried Red Rice yeast.....which did the same thing eventually.....because while it is "natural", it is still a statin.

Just nature made not man made from what I understand.....(oh boy I feel those rebuttles coming in)

Anyway......His sister had a bad case of the Rham thing.....has been bad off for about a year......God willing she will recover, she is only 53.

Matt, I just want you to know.......that my husband and i know many people who have had very bad things go haywire when on statins.......when things like that happen, people start branching out and looking for others to talk to......

I think that is what this group is about...as if you or anyone else did not know. :-) But anyway....I like to give people the benefit of the doubt....

I will ask, if you have no qualms about statins, why did you join? Is your dad having any adverse effects?

I will say out of many many people, I do know of 3 who are doing well, (as far as they know) on the statins. So, yeah:-) some things work for some....

I also want to say........I happen to think God does not make junk, and also that we have the ability to help heal ourselves.....and I also know we are gonna die when it is time.......so in the meantime....we do the best we can, and for me that means being as natural as I can possibly be as long as I possibly can.

I hope your dad does real good on the statin......if he is I sure would not even share the side effects you know to be out there.....

He must be a good man to have adopted you. I was wondering why you mentioned that .....oh yeah, I guess to say you did not inherit his genes...

(We adopted a girl also)

So, what IS your cholesterol? I am interested.

Personally I think it is perfectly ok to have polite disaggreements....just realize most people here are frustrated and looking for answers....and others who have been there done that.

No more, no less.

And...this New World thing................never heard of it...and I have no time to go look it up........

Sounds kinky.

So very glad to see so many posts...........the members must be climbing here.....wonder what we are up to now.....

Ed would be proud.

Jill

August 25, 2004

Thank you for your very nice post. I am sorry for your loss. My cholest is 123.

My father is a very good man and I came here to learn. And one of the last things you said is that people came here for answers. I hope they find them. But you are right. They are very frustrated and it is hard to find answers if everyone in the room is blaming the same thing and unwilling to have an outside voice ask questions. Questions they may not agree with. But sometimes it helps to look at the question for what it is and rather then attack the person who asked the question, investigate and maybe they will find a new or different answer. Maybe not. But if you blame one thing and one thing only, answers don't come easy. If Edison blamed the glass of the tube and changed the consistency of the glass he would never have changed the filament. I no it is different, of course it is, but it is another way of looking at something.

I don't see it happening here. I may be wrong. You mentioned dementia. I heard Alzheimer's from Les. these are two different things and I stated I found Alz hard to believe because of my experience with alz in the past. I have personally told hundreds of families their loved one has Alzheimer's. So I don't need a lecture here about it. (did not come from you I know) But I said I found it hard to believe. I did not rule it out, but hard to believe, and got reamed for that opinion. Dementia yes, Alzheimer's?

Anyway, I did not wake up a few weeks ago trying to decide what group of people in this great big world I could go out and upset like I think some here believe. Therapists are provocative or they should be. Not everyone can handle that. Certainly the case here.

I am glad to see you have a better grip on all of this then some here. I know that strength will carry you on. Again I am sorry for your loss.

Matt