Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Thanks for the suggestions larry.I am currently taking the 150 b-complex and adding brewers yeast to my diet, but perhaps need to look at adding additional niacin. my c-reactive protein is in normal range but my homocystine was very high (12.7). it has now lowered to 6.1. I went out and got some additional coEnzyme Q10 last nite(after reading all the positive information it seems like a good move). My only reservation with adding additional niacin is interaction with the other meds. I tried taking red rice yeast extract and felt very poor.so I stopped after 3 weeks. perhaps a conflict with the zocor I was taking at the time?My goal is to get off the lipid meds all together due to the obvious risk. I have made some pretty drastic life style changes. My body has changed alot...I dont know what changes to attribute to what. The first four weeks my body was withdrawling from nicotine, caffine, sugars, poor nutrition.Steve Hi, Steve, My husband was taking Red Rice yeast also, and was getting sick -I did some research , and it's the same base used for the statins, only in lower concentrations , because it's an herb and not a drug . I am permanently damaged due to the statins, so I research everything now ... Les . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think I read somewhere that red rice yeast is chemically similar to the statins, so probably not a good idea. More info, anybody?Linden You're right , Linden, I researched it too ! Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 I think I read somewhere that red rice yeast is chemically similar to the statins, so probably not a good idea. More info, anybody? Linden " Steve " wrote: > >Thanks for the suggestions larry. >I am currently taking the 150 b-complex and adding brewers yeast to >my diet, but perhaps need to look at adding additional niacin. my c- >reactive protein is in normal range but my homocystine was very high >(12.7). it has now lowered to 6.1. I went out and got some additional >coEnzyme Q10 last nite(after reading all the positive information it >seems like a good move). My only reservation with adding additional >niacin is interaction with the other meds. I tried taking red rice >yeast extract and felt very poor.so I stopped after 3 weeks. perhaps >a conflict with the zocor I was taking at the time? > >My goal is to get off the lipid meds all together due to the obvious >risk. I have made some pretty drastic life style changes. My body has >changed alot...I dont know what changes to attribute to what. The >first four weeks my body was withdrawling from nicotine, caffine, >sugars, poor nutrition. > >Steve > > > > >> >> Hi Steve, >> Low HDL is an independant risk factor for heart disease so the >> fact that your LDL and ratio are good may not be as protective as >> you'd like. I got low HDL when I went on a very low fat diet. It >> went up 5-7 points when I added a little monounsaturated fat [olive >> oil] without any change in my LDL. It jumped up 10-15 points when >I >> took 1-1 1/2 grams of niacin. Niacin is famous for raising HDL. I >> used Niaspan [the prescription form] because I got less flushing >> with it. I also tried a form of niacin called inositol >> hexaniacinate, which is heavily promoted by the vitamin companies, >> but it didn't do anything. Lopid also raises HDL in some people >and >> might be a good alternative if you can't tolerate the niacin flush. >> But niacin does more good things for your lipids than Lopid, >several >> things in fact. It's actually one of the best things around for >> cardiovascular health. Congrats on the LDL and triglyceride >> lowering. > > > > __________________________________________________________________ Switch to Netscape Internet Service. As low as $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. New! Netscape Toolbar for Internet Explorer Search from anywhere on the Web and block those annoying pop-ups. Download now at http://channels.netscape.com/ns/search/install.jsp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 1. Excercise at 65-75% max heart rate for 30 minutes a day. In your case make sure doctor is OK with intensity. 2. 1 glass of wine a day 3. 1000 mg or > or Niacin. Looks like you are doing very well and following all the basics. HDL unfortunately is hard to increase. My base was 40...and with excercise, diet, alcohol...I have never been higher than 48, over the last 10 years. I am trying 1000mg Niaspan currently and will post results sometime in January. Fortunately there is increased research in this are, and hopefully treatments are around the corner. > > Hello, > My name is steve...I am 35 and had a heart attack 8 weeks ago 99% > block in the LCA, 90% block in RCA, both opened to 100%, had > medicated stents put in I am 6'-4 " 190lbs. I was on zocor for the > first 4 weeks then the doc changed me to Vytorin 10/40. I have > adopted an almost full veggie-low sugar diet except for 2 fish and 2 > chicken meals a week. I am currently walking/jogging 3-4 miles a day > and taking the following supplements along with 325 asprin, plavix > 75, lopressor-10mg morning and nite and i quit smoking, soda, and > double cheese pizza > > 2000mg/day Salmon oil(cold pressed) > 750mg/day Flax seed oil > 1000mg ester-c > 150 b-complex > 1000mg magneseum (relax the heart) > 1 multi-vit > 1 glass of wine each nite > Most days I am maintaining a diet under 20 grams of fat 3g max > unsaturated. > > Hospital during heart attack and before new diet(9-13-04) > total 337 > ldl 174 > hdl 32 > tryg 841 > glucose 84 > > 10-12-04 > total 208 > ldl 117 > hdl 31 > tryg 355 > glucose 86 > > 11-9-04 > total 113 > ldl 61 > hdl 29 > tryg 103 > glucose 69 > > Anyone have suggestions for raising hdl? ratio is currently good but > I would like to see it little higher I was thinking about adding an > additional fish meal a week...I actually am feeling pretty good but > want to keep a close eye as i have been reading alot of scary stuff. > > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Hi Steve, Some thoughts: Certain people, me for instance, can't get their HDL up on a super low-fat diet unless they take a drug or a lot of niacin. If you're determined to go natural, you may be better off with a low saturated, moderate monounsaturated, fat diet. But your history of low HDL, even when other lipids were high, makes me wonder if it'll be enough. Berkeley Heart Labs does a great job of testing people for all kinds of cardiac risk factors and then offering treatment and diet recommendations. They're at www.berkeleyheartlab.com Their site has some good info and they'll work with your doctor. In spite of what your doc might say, I think they're the best. They often discover problems and suggest remedies that your typical cardiologist would have missed. They probably saved my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 Steve...what is your family heart history? You seemed to have been a good weight and your glucose levels were fine. Any nutritional reasons for the high tryg and total? Did you eat/drink lots of carbs and processed sugars? I would also consider more fish oils, make sure they are high quality...... > > Hello, > My name is steve...I am 35 and had a heart attack 8 weeks ago 99% > block in the LCA, 90% block in RCA, both opened to 100%, had > medicated stents put in I am 6'-4 " 190lbs. I was on zocor for the > first 4 weeks then the doc changed me to Vytorin 10/40. I have > adopted an almost full veggie-low sugar diet except for 2 fish and 2 > chicken meals a week. I am currently walking/jogging 3-4 miles a day > and taking the following supplements along with 325 asprin, plavix > 75, lopressor-10mg morning and nite and i quit smoking, soda, and > double cheese pizza > > 2000mg/day Salmon oil(cold pressed) > 750mg/day Flax seed oil > 1000mg ester-c > 150 b-complex > 1000mg magneseum (relax the heart) > 1 multi-vit > 1 glass of wine each nite > Most days I am maintaining a diet under 20 grams of fat 3g max > unsaturated. > > Hospital during heart attack and before new diet(9-13-04) > total 337 > ldl 174 > hdl 32 > tryg 841 > glucose 84 > > 10-12-04 > total 208 > ldl 117 > hdl 31 > tryg 355 > glucose 86 > > 11-9-04 > total 113 > ldl 61 > hdl 29 > tryg 103 > glucose 69 > > Anyone have suggestions for raising hdl? ratio is currently good but > I would like to see it little higher I was thinking about adding an > additional fish meal a week...I actually am feeling pretty good but > want to keep a close eye as i have been reading alot of scary stuff. > > Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2004 Report Share Posted November 17, 2004 From PDR Health: http://www.pdrhealth.com/drug_info/nmdrugprofiles/herbaldrugs/102345. shtml Possible Drug Interactions: Do not combine Red Yeast Rice with prescription cholesterol-lowering drugs. I tried taking red rice yeast extract and felt very poor. so I stopped after 3 weeks. perhaps a conflict with the zocor I was taking at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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