Iron levels low - what to do?

August 1, 2011

Hi

We've just had N's blood results back and was wondering what others have

used for low iron and also can anyone explain the significance of low

neutrophils please.

Iron 4.9 - Low (ref range 9 -30)

Ferritin 36 - low end of normal (ref range 15 - 400)

Neutrophil 1.2 - Low (ref range 1.7 - 7.5)

I know there was a recent thread on Lactoferrin, would this be a

suitable supplement to try to boost iron and where to get this from?

Norman's bowels are not good at all and he goes several days without

opening bowels and I feel iron supplementing might worsen this.

thanks for your help.

emily

August 2, 2011

Dear Have you spoken to recently. I think that she may be able to make more sense of this.. I am beginning to understand the problems poor venus return has on blood flow into the brain, and I wonder if the reduction in iron etc could be linked with this.

It may be helpful to send her an e mail. as she is very busy at the Centre with the school holidays at the moment.Best Wishes

Tracey

,

First, the neutrophils. This would be what I would consider the most important result. There is a product called thymic protein A by a company called proboost. It can increase white blood cells (neutrophils are one kind) and improve the immune system in general. I have also found that Epicor has great research behind it, and can, among other htings, increase NK cells, which would probably be very good, as my understanding they, like neutrophils, work without needing any programming from the immune system.

For iron, I believe it is the ferritin results you want to pay attention to, but his are still low. Cutler maintains that toxic kids with high levels of OS will keep low iron for just that reason. My ds also had very low iron. I didn't use the kinds normally recommended, which is the non-heme kind, but instead tried to get animal iron (which is the heme kind) in him--drippings from a roast, stuff like that. If Norm will swallow pills, the Weston A Price people recommended freezing raw organic liver and then taking it as pills (you need to freeze for a certain amount of time to ensure that what you're eating is safe). There is also a supplement I did try a couple years back that has the right form of iron that our body needs, which is the heme iron, but the name escapes me entirely now. Perhaps google heme iron and see what you can find available in the UK? Getting it through food would be better though IMO.

I'm not sure if you were able to hear Dr Culp speak at the conference. One of the most important things (IMO) that he makes clear is that these reference ranges don't mean 'normal, healthy, fine and dandy'. So, people like our kids who are at the low end of things like neutrophils really do require some sort of attention that most md's would not give--I suspect this is the case here?

There are also some more immune system supps listed in the viral file in the files section here that might be of help to you.

Anita

>

> Hi

>

> We've just had N's blood results back and was wondering what others have

> used for low iron and also can anyone explain the significance of low

> neutrophils please.

>

> Iron 4.9 - Low (ref range 9 -30)

>

> Ferritin 36 - low end of normal (ref range 15 - 400)

>

> Neutrophil 1.2 - Low (ref range 1.7 - 7.5)

>

> I know there was a recent thread on Lactoferrin, would this be a

> suitable supplement to try to boost iron and where to get this from?

>

> Norman's bowels are not good at all and he goes several days without

> opening bowels and I feel iron supplementing might worsen this.

>

> thanks for your help.

>

> emily

>

August 2, 2011

The below link gives some ideas from Andy regards neutrophils,

it is also in the files section at A-M.

http://onibasu.com/archives/am/44588.html

BTW I agree with Anita's post

Kenny

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > We've just had N's blood results back and was wondering what others have

> > used for low iron and also can anyone explain the significance of low

> > neutrophils please.

> >

> > Iron 4.9 - Low (ref range 9 -30)

> >

> > Ferritin 36 - low end of normal (ref range 15 - 400)

> >

> > Neutrophil 1.2 - Low (ref range 1.7 - 7.5)

> >

> > I know there was a recent thread on Lactoferrin, would this be a

> > suitable supplement to try to boost iron and where to get this from?

> >

> > Norman's bowels are not good at all and he goes several days without

> > opening bowels and I feel iron supplementing might worsen this.

> >

> > thanks for your help.

> >

> > emily

> >

>

August 5, 2011

Thank you for all the help and advice Anita. :-)

emily

> > > >

> > > > Hi

> > > >

> > > > We've just had N's blood results back and was wondering what

others

> > have

> > > > used for low iron and also can anyone explain the significance

of

> > low

> > > > neutrophils please.

> > > >

> > > > Iron 4.9 - Low (ref range 9 -30)

> > > >

> > > > Ferritin 36 - low end of normal (ref range 15 - 400)

> > > >

> > > > Neutrophil 1.2 - Low (ref range 1.7 - 7.5)

> > > >

> > > > I know there was a recent thread on Lactoferrin, would this be a

> > > > suitable supplement to try to boost iron and where to get this

from?

> > > >

> > > > Norman's bowels are not good at all and he goes several days

without

> > > > opening bowels and I feel iron supplementing might worsen this.

> > > >

> > > > thanks for your help.

> > > >

> > > > emily

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

August 6, 2011

Lactoferrin has brought my ds bloodcount up. I did this as part of yasko recomendation. Interesting as dw was also pos for kryptopyroles which also is connected with heme .

Thank you for all the help and advice Anita. :-)emily>> Hi E...

August 6, 2011

Hi Alison,Would you mind me asking how much lactoferrin you give? Have recently started my ds on this - have been giving one cap.JanetTo: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: rowbotham.alison@...Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:55:44 +0100Subject: Re: Re: Iron levels low - what to do?

Lactoferrin has brought my ds bloodcount up. I did this as part of yasko recomendation. Interesting as dw was also pos for kryptopyroles which also is connected with heme .

Thank you for all the help and advice Anita. :-)emily>> Hi E...

August 6, 2011

Started with a sprinkle and worked up to one 300mg cap. Ds is 3 yrs old. Checked

blood count again after 6 weeks and gone from 11.2 to 12.9.

DJ P wrote:

>

>Hi Alison,

>Would you mind me asking how much lactoferrin you give? Have recently started

my ds on this - have been giving one cap.

>Janet

>

>To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

>From: rowbotham.alison@...

>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:55:44 +0100

>Subject: Re: Re: Iron levels low - what to do?

>

> Lactoferrin has brought my ds bloodcount up. I did this as part of yasko

recomendation. Interesting as dw was also pos for kryptopyroles which also is

connected with heme .

>

>Thank you for all the help and advice Anita. :-)

>

>emily

>

>>

>> Hi E...

>

August 6, 2011

Thank you - that's a fab. result over 6 weeks.To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: rowbotham.alison@...Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:42:44 +0100Subject: RE: Re: Iron levels low - what to do?

Started with a sprinkle and worked up to one 300mg cap. Ds is 3 yrs old. Checked blood count again after 6 weeks and gone from 11.2 to 12.9.

DJ P wrote:

>

>Hi Alison,

>Would you mind me asking how much lactoferrin you give? Have recently started my ds on this - have been giving one cap.

>Janet

>

>To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

>From: rowbotham.alison@...

>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:55:44 +0100

>Subject: Re: Re: Iron levels low - what to do?

>

> Lactoferrin has brought my ds bloodcount up. I did this as part of yasko recomendation. Interesting as dw was also pos for kryptopyroles which also is connected with heme .

>

>Thank you for all the help and advice Anita. :-)

>

>emily

>

>>

>> Hi E...

>

August 6, 2011

Thank you - that's a fab. result over 6 weeks.To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe From: rowbotham.alison@...Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:42:44 +0100Subject: RE: Re: Iron levels low - what to do?

Started with a sprinkle and worked up to one 300mg cap. Ds is 3 yrs old. Checked blood count again after 6 weeks and gone from 11.2 to 12.9.

DJ P wrote:

>

>Hi Alison,

>Would you mind me asking how much lactoferrin you give? Have recently started my ds on this - have been giving one cap.

>Janet

>

>To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe

>From: rowbotham.alison@...

>Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 11:55:44 +0100

>Subject: Re: Re: Iron levels low - what to do?

>

> Lactoferrin has brought my ds bloodcount up. I did this as part of yasko recomendation. Interesting as dw was also pos for kryptopyroles which also is connected with heme .

>

>Thank you for all the help and advice Anita. :-)

>

>emily

>

>>

>> Hi E...

>

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